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| I honestly don't know what to think about where the story is going. I like that Kishi is trying to explain some things but I just don't like what I'm reading. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
| That was an interesting read. Please stop saying 'that technique' and say the damn name already So many masterminds XD |
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johnknight648 said: Dimitrije1606 said: Delete? Why? Because I stated that even though Naruto is in its final stages, villains are popping out from nowhere? True but you said about the ramen chef that's ridiculous. But that is the whole point. Kaguya was completely unnecessairy, but he did it anyway. |
| Ad Astra Per Aspera |
| I feel a bit disappointed about this chapter. I'm glad that a lot of things got explained, but still... I just don't want a new final villain, we got enough. This "I fooled him, but i was fooled by another one" chain should end with Kaguya. I hope that Black Zetsu is still on the woman's side and it won't turn out that he would just use Kaguya for his goals. |
| Which school did Kishimoto graduate? This is genius work! |
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| Naruto and Sasuke are Ashura and Indora, but I think they have many similarities to Hagoromo and Hamura. :/ Naruto= Hagoromo Sasuke= Hamura |
| I don't even know what is what anymore in this manga. The tree, the Juubi, the moon, Kaguya and her sons, Hagoromo and his sons, gedo mazo...it wouldn't be so confusing if Kishi would stick to the stuff he told us earlier for once and wouldn't always change everything on the spur of the moment. |
| Just kill her already for fucks sake. I want this series to end and I'd prefer that one of team 7 other than Kakashi dies. |
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| So... Black Zetsu is secretly Masashi Kishimoto? Kaguya's tears do make her look beautiful though, and I wonder what Naruto and Sasuke are going to do because they've been overpowered by Kaguya more than once already. It's interesting, ever since Kaguya appeared I couldn't help but notice that she didn't act much differently than the Juubi/Shinju - to the point where I thought she might be controlled by it but as it turns out, the Juubi Hagoromo and Homura sealed was Kaguya or a part of her. |
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"Rejoice! We are humans— we are the most talented people! Precisely because we were born without any ability— we can achieve anything— this is the will of the weakest race!" – Sora, ‘No game No life Vol.01’ |
| Black Zetsu seems to love his mother a bit too much. |
| So do I get this right? Kaguya used to be a good human, ate the chakra fruit and became the 10 Tails that wanted to consume all of chakra. Then her two sons seal her body in what is now moon and her chakra in Hagoromo. Just before they succeed Kaguya creates her will that is Black Zetsu. Black Zetsu manipulates Idara and all the next heads of Uchiha clan (rewriting Hagoromo last guideline words to help him brainwash the clan). Finally at some point Madara awakens Rinnegan with is first step in resurrecting Kaguya. Thinking Madara is the one true mastermind he manipulates Obito who then manipulates Nagato. Everyone follows the plan that Black Zetsu came up with to bring Kaguya back to life. Did I get this right @_@ so confused. |
| So many gullible people really believe this manga will end in the next 20-30 chapters hahaha... There should still be one more arc, the battle for Hokage title and if Weekly Jump really wants to stretch this, the restoration of the shinobi world and the peace agreement with everything going political like Log Horizon. Nope, not gonna end till another 2 years at least. SleepnDreamn said: So do I get this right? Kaguya used to be a good human, ate the chakra fruit and became the 10 Tails that wanted to consume all of chakra. Then her two sons seal her body in what is now moon and her chakra in Hagoromo. Just before they succeed Kaguya creates her will that is Black Zetsu. Black Zetsu manipulates Idara and all the next heads of Uchiha clan (rewriting Hagoromo last guideline words to help him brainwash the clan). Finally at some point Madara awakens Rinnegan with is first step in resurrecting Kaguya. Thinking Madara is the one true mastermind he manipulates Obito who then manipulates Nagato. Everyone follows the plan that Black Zetsu came up with to bring Kaguya back to life. Did I get this right @_@ so confused. I... think so. There seems to be a lot of grammar/disjointed translation problem in the Mangastream version so it is a bit confusing |
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| So madara did actually die but he rewrote his own failure with izanagi even after his death? Well that's just too convenient. Sure I could say that it was forshadowing all along when itachi embedded his amaterasu in sasuke's eye but that's just taking things too far. Black zetsu is the new aizen and now Naruto and Sasuke are planning something... what could they be planning? If and when they succeed to seal Kaguya they better make damn sure that she won't release another black zetsu or something just before being sealed so she can't start all over yet again. |
| For those who seek perfection, there can be no rest on this side of the grave. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. |
| The interesting thing about this chapter amid all the information we received was this The fact that it's finally been proven the other brother inherited the Byakugan from his mother. I mean, it was kinda obvious for a while now, since Hagoromo received a variation of the Juubi eye (Rinnegan), which means that Hamura would possibly inherit the other set of eyes his mother possessed (Byakugan), but it's nice that it is a proven fact now. Ever since kakashi mentioned in the Chunin exams that the Sharingan originated from the Byakugan I always wondered just how all three eyes were related . Well now we know. |
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| Man it seems like each chapter is getting worse and worse : |
johnknight648 said: yeah looks naruto almost ending anytime soon in about few 20 chapters it will probably end in November 2014 or January 2015 Everyone's been saying that since 100 chapters ago lol. THere is still some things that kishimoto has to resolve indefinitely, so ill just say, it will end when it ends. |
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SandyBoi said: That was an interesting read. Please stop saying 'that technique' and say the damn name already So many masterminds XD If you watched enough anime, you know that is a really popular trend that is used. It kind of gets annoying i know. |
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| Kishi did say 2014 is it's last year but damn I feel like we're just enetering a mini-chapter again, not unsatisfied tho. With all the unexpected stuff going down I sort of hope Hagoromo joins in. |
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Dimitrije1606 said: johnknight648 said: True but you said about the ramen chef that's ridiculous. But that is the whole point. Kaguya was completely unnecessairy, but he did it anyway. Yeah bringing Kaguya into the picture, he was forced to flip the entire story around so that kaguya was part of the central plot, imo i think the story was fine when it was bout ninja's but now he had to create a scenario that was relevant to kaguya, an otherworldly demon and some how make madara and black zetsu a part of it. It is quite obvious that kishimoto did not plan this. He ran him self into a corner. Regardless, it is what it is and i accept it, the final battles have nearly been like interplanetary lvls of intensity and lots of revelations and plot twist keep the story very unpredictable. Regardless of the direction he chose, its still enjoyable on that aspect. The ending will never change my views on the characters though, naruto has some of the greatest historical figures to grace the anime medium and that will never change for me. I think when i write a review on this, that is primarily what i am going to focus on, the story in it self has had some ups and downs, but i think the real strength of this series is the characters. If the characters did not go through as much development like bleach per-say and was not integrated into the core story that well. Then my rating on this show would be far below the mark. |
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veguke said: Kishi does not respect us. Izanagi to come back to life even after you've been dead a while??? Really?? Couldn't Madara just have taken Obito's eye back then to use Izanagi to be revived as a young person again? With a hot wife and an Uchiha Ferrari?? Coz, flip, Izanagi can change reality, duh. And Black Zetsu planned EVERYTHING?? How did he influence Kabuto to use his knowledge to get in on the war?? Its not enough to just say: "haha, I tricked him too. F*ck you." No, we deserve a proper explanation of how every single bloody manipulation was done, how Zetsu knew so many details and arrggggg ... really, if kishi just left it at: Hashirama thought he killed Madara, left, and Black Zetsu kept the unconscious Madara alive (we already know he can do that), and Madara woke up thinking he was just fortunate or strong or whatever, then I would have been happy. But no, IZANAGI CAN BE ACTIVATED WHENEVER THE HECK YOU FEEL LIKE IT. Jeez, you'd think someone as smart as Itachi would have thought of that little trick, just in case he died from being sick or something. Then again, maybe he wanted to die, but surely other Izanagi users must have thought of using this delayed-death-revival-plothole-no-jutsu. Dammit Kishi doesn't respect us. I didn't even finish the chapter. Rant over. Dammit. You really saved my from typing all that.Thank you. All those that say that this was probably planned by Kishi... No hell no it wasnt. He had no idea how to kill Madara, he himself said it, and now retconned everything that happened in the previous 680 chapters. THis is far worse than Aizen's "I had it all planned out". |
| This chapter was pretty much just Kishi realizing he has messed up, so he tried to fill his mistakes. So let me get something straight, am I correct in saying that both the Ten Tails and Kaguya were creations of the God Tree? Just getting a bit confused about that. Behemoth11 said: Izanagi requires Senju DNA if you're not Uchiha.Great chapter, but Sasuke seems pretty useless now. However, Izanagi doesn't require Senju DNA it seems, Hamura looks like a devil and Kuro Zetsu is the mastermind. |
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link9us said: Yeah bringing Kaguya into the picture, he was forced to flip the entire story around so that kaguya was part of the central plot, imo i think the story was fine when it was bout ninja's but now he had to create a scenario that was relevant to kaguya, an otherworldly demon and some how make madara and black zetsu a part of it. It is quite obvious that kishimoto did not plan this. He ran him self into a corner. Regardless, it is what it is and i accept it, the final battles have nearly been like interplanetary lvls of intensity and lots of revelations and plot twist keep the story very unpredictable. Regardless of the direction he chose, its still enjoyable on that aspect. The ending will never change my views on the characters though, naruto has some of the greatest historical figures to grace the anime medium and that will never change for me. I don't think Kishimoto has the writing skills to pull off connecting major events in Naruto. All of this shit seems so forced and artificial none of it seems natural. I honestly wish before the big war arc he would've just taken some time to think out what he's writing and then stick to it. Instead of tossing out all of this garbage. Making characters like Sasuke do a 180 becoming the good guy out of nowhere is fucking ridiculous. Having Pain be manipulated by Obito. Obito be manipulated by Madara. Madara be manipulated by Black Zetsu and now having Kaguya as the main villain is BAD writing. It makes each of his villains seem like fucking nitwits who can be easily tricked it's soooo baad. |
| So True History of the Uchiha and Senju? This was Ok chapter. |
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j0x said: its nice to see some explanation like how Madara use Izanagi to revive himself on a later time by sacrificing his one mangekyou sharingan eye this was a very interesting chapter how the hell did he revive himself once dead? :/ |
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| Honestly I'm so disappointed in this black zetsu puppetmaster shit I can't even put it into words. Also it seems like Madara is actually done, gone, replaced by Kaguya. Idk... Not really... All that... Good... Oh well I guess Naruto vs Sasuke is going to happen someday so there's that. What did Sasuke do to Obito? Is Naruto going to give him life force or something... He should be able to use the sage chakra too so I wonder why wouldn't they try to give life to him. The double Kamui has been teased too, so... |
johnknight648 said: All i see posts made by most people dont like this chapter especially making fun of it just as kishimoto is tying up to end loose threads since its about to end anyway at least the ending of naruto this year may be a rumour it looks its about to end. WHen in the attempt to explain the unexplained he makes everything that happened before a bunch of nonsense then there is no reason to be glad about it or congratulate him. |
| Good chapter. So it was the black zetsu that instigated everything. This is getting good. |
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| Kishimoto you bastard you did it again dammit... 5/5 |
| Everybody has the right to have his own opinion on something.And you do have the right to disagree with them.But that doesnt give you the right to impose your opinion on others, even though you do have the right to think you are fucking awesome. |
| Actually, I would like to know how Madara could awake two Rinnegan. One eye was sealed though. |
| Great chapter. Things are getting very interesting... 5/5. |
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| I liked it, didn't expect to see Kaguya cry but it gave her more personality. |
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| No? Itachi is no exception to the rule, the entire Uchiha Clan was fooled. Itachi just wasn't part of the plan, but what tells you he wasn't fooled exactly? He believed Obito was Madara, that's plenty fooling. That and even though he didn't want to, he aided in capturing a few tailed beasts (even indirectly), if he knew about Kaguya's existence and Black Zetsu, he would have tried to stop it. So stop wanking him and accept reality, he was as much of a puppet as Obito was, if not, even worse since he didn't know that Nagato/Pain was being manipulated. All he knows is that Tobi was Masked Man whom he worked with in the Uchiha Massacre and knows the truth, and all he did was try to kill him with Amaterasu to make sure Sasuke wasn't told about the truth nor manipulated. Simple as that. Also this chapter's giving me plenty headache, Madara being done in a few pages after he got his second Rinnegan, replaced by Kaguya and Black Zetsu being the mastermind was badly executed. The chapter was good, the plot twist was also good..But sadly, it felt rushed, that or it's hard to believe how the story has been rehashed, because it's making Uchihas sound like a bunch of puppets which is sad and unrealistic. |
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| "The war has already begun... My name no longer matters. You can call me by my old name, Tobi, if you prefer. Madara, Tobi... call me whatever you want." |
| Also..You people read wrong. http://puu.sh/9z68y/8e6e5a86ca.jpg It implies that Madara has made it so his right eye would use Izanagi after death, much like Sasuke's amaterasu against Tobi. However, I agree with some of you, this is clumsy and stupid as hell, the plot is just becoming a loop of stupidities put on top of each other, normally, even if you teach your eye to do anything, it shouldn't even work because it would lose the connection to your brain, but this is Naruto logic we're talking about. |
| "The war has already begun... My name no longer matters. You can call me by my old name, Tobi, if you prefer. Madara, Tobi... call me whatever you want." |
| Remember when this was a series about a kid who wanted to gain the respect of his peers? |
| So, Black Zetsu was the mastermind behind the whole plan.... XD 3/5 |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| Awesome chapter. |
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| Does anyone actually remember when madara met obito... Didn't he have one eye? |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: I honestly don't know what to think about where the story is going. I like that Kishi is trying to explain some things but I just don't like what I'm reading. Then you should just stop reading Naruto then. It must be a pain in the ass to read something you just don't like. But if you really want to see how this manga ends, Naruto is close to ending, so just wait until it's finished and then read all of it in one day or so. This goes to everyone who just doesn't like where Naruto is going, but want to finish the series. |
Kaimon said: Remember when this was a series about a kid who wanted to gain the respect of his peers? Good times. Good times.. |
kikohunter said: Oh my god I cannot believe what my eyes are reading, are thete actually people praising Kishi in this thread or are you all fucking blind fanboys? Geez wake up from your dreams, this isn't GOOD this is plain BAD. I'm astounded.. Well if you didn't know, there are people out there who think differently than you. It what makes us human and ourselves. There's no need for you call them "blinded fanboys" just because they think differently than you. smh |
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