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Sep 27, 2009 1:14 AM

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RavenTheDark said:
Here's a list of reasons why I'm obscenely retarded



Ahahahah, what the fuck do you even think you're talking about? Based on that post, you are so bizarrely/seriously/hilariously out of touch with reality that I honestly believe you're some kind of paranoid-schizophrenic. Wow man, what a fucking kick.
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Seriously though, don't get me wrong, that post was awesome. I laughed my ass off. A+ for you, great job
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Screw that. People should watch I-Robot before suggesting that.


thats basically a load of shit that film

Yeah it is.

Rather than watching a retarded Hollywood movie which eschews any credibility for entertainment value, and which massively distorts Asimov's original work, people should read into actual friendly AI research.

It's not as if you can watch Armageddon and then know anything at all about how a real asteroid homing in on Earth would affect us, be handled with and so on, is it? Same shit with I, Robot, Terminator, Matrix and their ilk regarding AIs.
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Sep 27, 2009 9:08 AM

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Kaisereddie said:
I don't know about the "won't work" part; the Paris Commune worked well, as did Barcelona/Catalonia. The problem is not internal; it is external forces that want to subjugate you for various reasons. Anarchy works excellently for many kinds of production, though evidently it isn't good at all in war.
And war is always a threat, meaning if you can't defend yourself, you don't really work that great.
Still, even if there were no external enemy, I doubt it would have managed to keep going for too long. The Paris commune worked for a while, obviously because the people who had rebelled had strong convictions and feelings of brotherhood and union in their ideals, but the larger the group and the more time goes on, chances are those feelings would dissipate, leaving room for power hungry warlords to ride in and seize control.
Without authoritative force and system, there is also the problem with the "Tragedy of the Commons", as illustrated when the USSR's crop totals went up noticeably after the farmers were allowed to keep their own fields as well. People tend to be greedy and without having rules enforced by someone, we would likely sooner return to our own devices rather than work for the benefit of the fellowship, especially when we have large group of relatively unrelated people.
Lack of legal enforcement and structure works fine for smaller tribes in the jungles and on the islnds, but the moment you try to start a big and complex society, I can't imagine you would ever succeed without a relatively authoritative system.
And as for letting an AI do the work, why? After all, by the posthuman state, there would be no difference except ontogeny. Humans would all be as smart as AIs, partly being such themselves.
Well, naturally, if we become posthumans ourselves there would be no need for such.
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Lol I did expect that response, because it's typical. However it's not accurate. What would make you think the "Citizens" would rebel even if they knew? The people don't need to overthrow a government. There's millions of laws in the US, and only two apply to a "person" the rest apply to "citizens." Even though technically speaking only citizens that are part of the Government are legally obliged to follow those laws. Normal citizens don't need to..
Wat.
All people in a state are obviously bound by it's laws, what the hell are you smoking? The Government is legitimate as long as the tolerance threshold is not broken, that's when the people start to rebel. Obviously they won't need to overthrow the government if they do accept their legitimacy.
I have no idea about the laws of the US, or whether they use "person" or "citizen" as terms, and I don't give a damn either.
Also, what the hell is a normal citizen? The laws apply for all people in a state, as long as you live in it you can't just say you don't give a shit and break the rules as you like.
Kaisereddie said:
It's not as if you can watch Armageddon and then know anything at all about how a real asteroid homing in on Earth would affect us, be handled with and so on, is it? Same shit with I, Robot, Terminator, Matrix and their ilk regarding AIs.
Indeed.
And with all the blathering about evil sentient AIs taking over the world, I am quite sure that any AI we do manage to produce will not turn out like that. Its not as if we want to emulate disaster movies or anything.
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chinlamp said:
Why has no one mentioned the government I hate most?

The Australian government. Damn them and their banning of games that have to have an R rating. And their mandatory internet filter.

And, you know, their general ignoring and total screwing over of the Australian people.
+1 Kevin Rudd is the Milky Bar kid reincarnate.
Sep 27, 2009 5:41 PM
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Fascism and Capitalism
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Sep 27, 2009 6:22 PM

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dictatorship
ararchy
failed democracy
turbo capitalist
communist
oligarchy
monarchy
aristocracy
Anime makes me smile!

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ITT: people who think economic system = government
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Simple, one that creates more problems than it fixes.
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It is definitely North Korea!

Currently, the country is building nukes and test-firing missiles for no good reason aside from intimidating the world to negotiate bilateral ties with them to their benefits. Somehow, hopefully... The United States will manage to convince them to resume six-party talks through bilateral dialogue.

Luckily, with Japan, China, and South Korea working together on the East Asian Community plan alongside the United States' bilateral negotiations, I doubt North Korea will ever get to launch their nukes.^^
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Why would N.Korea even want to launch nukes? That would be signing their own doom. The Great Leader can't be that stupid, and if he is, then at least the people around him can't be.

Besides, what's the problem, many other countries have nukes without using them. Nothing is more ridiculous than seeing the ones that do have throngs of them bitching and whining about other countries trying to produce some.
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Baman said:
Why would N.Korea even want to launch nukes? That would be signing their own doom. The Great Leader can't be that stupid, and if he is, then at least the people around him can't be.

Besides, what's the problem, many other countries have nukes without using them. Nothing is more ridiculous than seeing the ones that do have throngs of them bitching and whining about other countries trying to produce some.
True Dat Bro.
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I am agist the goverment of the UK. why? because its the country i live in for a start and they have a strangle hold in its nation.

some of the best brainwashing techniques ever used. the drugs subversion cultrue to poison and keep the lower classes id covered up with elaborat police spending and nothing yet has changed.

class sytems that still in place today make it impossible for anyone of ethnic or social backgrounds to get anywhere and again eleaborate spneding on equality rights and forms to catagorise people into colour groups like black asian white etc

the fact that goverment has been found out many times to be spending tax payer money on luxury items second homes while people starve and are homeless.

and lets not forget out cohersion with amrica in a war that was based soly on money and power and covered up with politcal spin for saving the world from a tyrant.

increased terro acts giveing police more power to come into your home and arrest you for nothing more than a whim.

the fact that police are known to abuse thier powers using drugs and racist within the force corruption that has found out police officers are alos pedophiles yet somehow disapear conviently from the news after finding out a group of them had plotted and acted out a child kidnapping and rape yet everyone seems to have forgotten.

they are the worst system in place and they have such a goo manipultion on people views that they still come off as the good guy.

basicaly they are the worst government i d prefer burman tbh at leas their honest about thier corruption or china or w/e
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NEVER-BEND-HER said:
I am agist the goverment of the UK. why? because its the country i live in for a start and they have a strangle hold in its nation.

some of the best brainwashing techniques ever used. the drugs subversion cultrue to poison and keep the lower classes id covered up with elaborat police spending and nothing yet has changed.

class sytems that still in place today make it impossible for anyone of ethnic or social backgrounds to get anywhere and again eleaborate spneding on equality rights and forms to catagorise people into colour groups like black asian white etc

the fact that goverment has been found out many times to be spending tax payer money on luxury items second homes while people starve and are homeless.

and lets not forget out cohersion with amrica in a war that was based soly on money and power and covered up with politcal spin for saving the world from a tyrant.

increased terro acts giveing police more power to come into your home and arrest you for nothing more than a whim.

the fact that police are known to abuse thier powers using drugs and racist within the force corruption that has found out police officers are alos pedophiles yet somehow disapear conviently from the news after finding out a group of them had plotted and acted out a child kidnapping and rape yet everyone seems to have forgotten.

they are the worst system in place and they have such a goo manipultion on people views that they still come off as the good guy.

basicaly they are the worst government i d prefer burman tbh at leas their honest about thier corruption or china or w/e
You just failed at grammar.
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Sep 29, 2009 5:54 PM
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Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
Sep 29, 2009 6:20 PM

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GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job


o u

/tinfoilhat
Sep 29, 2009 6:22 PM

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rofl said:
NEVER-BEND-HER said:
I am agist the goverment of the UK. why? because its the country i live in for a start and they have a strangle hold in its nation.

some of the best brainwashing techniques ever used. the drugs subversion cultrue to poison and keep the lower classes id covered up with elaborat police spending and nothing yet has changed.

class sytems that still in place today make it impossible for anyone of ethnic or social backgrounds to get anywhere and again eleaborate spneding on equality rights and forms to catagorise people into colour groups like black asian white etc

the fact that goverment has been found out many times to be spending tax payer money on luxury items second homes while people starve and are homeless.

and lets not forget out cohersion with amrica in a war that was based soly on money and power and covered up with politcal spin for saving the world from a tyrant.

increased terro acts giveing police more power to come into your home and arrest you for nothing more than a whim.

the fact that police are known to abuse thier powers using drugs and racist within the force corruption that has found out police officers are alos pedophiles yet somehow disapear conviently from the news after finding out a group of them had plotted and acted out a child kidnapping and rape yet everyone seems to have forgotten.

they are the worst system in place and they have such a goo manipultion on people views that they still come off as the good guy.

basicaly they are the worst government i d prefer burman tbh at leas their honest about thier corruption or china or w/e
You just failed at grammar.


and i care so mcuh as well ; _ ;p
Sep 30, 2009 7:16 AM

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GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.
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Baman said:
GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.


So... even Conspiracy Theorists are in MAL's midst.

I don't see 9/11 as an inside job. Instead, it's more or less a bungled job (by the gov't) where the government was pretty much asleep by the wheel.

An inside job is more like -- the manipulation of the Bush Administration to push the country towards invading Iraq.
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Baman said:
GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.


JFK did 9/11

Jews faked moon landing

International Bankers killed Michael Jackson
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Shakes herself and stands apart."
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Sep 30, 2009 1:45 PM

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Any shitty government which prioritizes money/power/land than the people of the country...aka my own.
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Governments I don't like:

  • Totalitarianism/Dictatorship
  • Oligarchy/Plutocracy/Corporatocracy
  • Theocracy
  • Absolute Monarchy
  • Anything militarily-ruled like juntas
  • Technocracy


Governments I like: (for the heck of it)

  • Democracy
  • Republicanism
  • Minarchy (anarchy is too much for me)
  • Constitutional (like England)l or elective monarchies (like Vatican City) are okay
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KyuuA4 said:
Baman said:
GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.


So... even Conspiracy Theorists are in MAL's midst.

I don't see 9/11 as an inside job. Instead, it's more or less a bungled job (by the gov't) where the government was pretty much asleep by the wheel.

An inside job is more like -- the manipulation of the Bush Administration to push the country towards invading Iraq.

No.Various laws of science was pretty much broken that the people fail to do some research on it since they trust their good o' government so much. too much too list right now but if you go watch Loose Change, you will see many questions the official report failed to answer. If you ask me, 911 was just a one time of many planned events to push in the New World Order
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GiinZo said:
KyuuA4 said:
Baman said:
GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.


So... even Conspiracy Theorists are in MAL's midst.

I don't see 9/11 as an inside job. Instead, it's more or less a bungled job (by the gov't) where the government was pretty much asleep by the wheel.

An inside job is more like -- the manipulation of the Bush Administration to push the country towards invading Iraq.

No.Various laws of science was pretty much broken that the people fail to do some research on it since they trust their good o' government so much. too much too list right now but if you go watch Loose Change, you will see many questions the official report failed to answer. If you ask me, 911 was just a one time of many planned events to push in the New World Order


I'm pro one world government, pro eugenics, and pro transhumanism. Where do I fit into Alex Jone's plot?
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Shakes herself and stands apart."
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rTz said:
GiinZo said:
KyuuA4 said:
Baman said:
GiinZo said:
Well, any government. Especially the US. 911 was an inside job
The trick was to make missiles that looked exactly like planes.


So... even Conspiracy Theorists are in MAL's midst.

I don't see 9/11 as an inside job. Instead, it's more or less a bungled job (by the gov't) where the government was pretty much asleep by the wheel.

An inside job is more like -- the manipulation of the Bush Administration to push the country towards invading Iraq.

No.Various laws of science was pretty much broken that the people fail to do some research on it since they trust their good o' government so much. too much too list right now but if you go watch Loose Change, you will see many questions the official report failed to answer. If you ask me, 911 was just a one time of many planned events to push in the New World Order


I'm pro one world government, pro eugenics, and pro transhumanism. Where do I fit into Alex Jone's plot?

You fit in with the rest of the FEMA detainees. Alex Jones is a Zionist gatekeeper
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GiinZo said:
No.Various laws of science was pretty much broken that the people fail to do some research on it since they trust their good o' government so much. too much too list right now but if you go watch Loose Change, you will see many questions the official report failed to answer. If you ask me, 911 was just a one time of many planned events to push in the New World Order

People actually believe Loose Change? I thought those were myths, like clean public restrooms and people who think Dean Koontz is a good author.

'Twas a comedy of errors to me, namely.

also lol laws of science broken? Which ones? Where? Who?
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