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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- New episode II-IV Skewer I liked this episode, the pacing was good overall and I loved the red text with some personality, not just plain words. Some reactions lacked a bit of impact in the killings, but Rosa's were always perfect. EDIT: DotG can always be next episode during Yet another edit : 2chan thread http://dec.2chan.net/18/res/9209970.htm |
lotusresAug 26, 2009 10:13 AM
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| Incoming no dread of the grave rage from VN readers. |
| inb4 more people dropping Hmmm I see there are no raws yet. |
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| Even with censoring, it's was quite gruesome. |
MarthX said: Incoming no dread of the grave rage from VN readers. I'd like a logical explanation for this. |
MarthX said: Even with censoring, it's was quite gruesome. really?? now I'm wondering if I will enjoy it >.< I'm not a huge fan of blood and guts. I'm a trooper so I'll stick it out! Looking forward to the ep though since I hear it should be much better then what the preview gave away :) |
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MarthX said: Incoming no dread of the grave rage from VN readers. I'll only rage if it's not used in I'm glad they kept the Wolves and Sheep puzzle and I'm glad they didn't keep ghost Jessi and Kanon. The part at the end was awesome :D This episode was good but it didn't cover nearly as much as I thought it would so I'm a bit worried about the next episodes. MarthX said: Even with censoring, it's was quite gruesome. Umineko has a lot of gross stuff but for some reason that is the only part in Umineko that really disturbed me. I actually looked away from the screen even though it was censored and I usually skip over that part in the VN. |
hirahira said: MarthX said: Incoming no dread of the grave rage from VN readers. I'll only rage if it's not used in I'm glad they kept the Wolves and Sheep puzzle and I'm glad they didn't keep ghost Jessi and Kanon. The part at the end was awesome :D This episode was good but it didn't cover nearly as much as I thought it would so I'm a bit worried about the next episodes. MarthX said: Even with censoring, it's was quite gruesome. Umineko has a lot of gross stuff but for some reason that is the only part in Umineko that really disturbed me. I actually looked away from the screen even though it was censored and I usually skip over that part in the VN. |
LunarEmeraldAug 26, 2009 6:58 PM
| lawl, did a quick lesson about the sheep and wolf thing similar to the one in this episode last year at school x] |
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| this show is surely to get more interesting bit by bit. It seems to suggest that the murderer(s) is(are) among those 3 who are still left alive, if not all 3 of them are murderers now, plus Kannon (we are still not sure if he is really dead by now) and the grandfather Kinzo (but he seems to be the least suspect somehow) the prime suspect looks like it would be Genji the chef butler (no matter how i look at it) ps: I would like to ask the VN readers to leave this a episode-centric discussion and Only discuss what really happened in this episode, thx. |
vinesageAug 26, 2009 8:03 PM
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vinesage said: this show is surely to get more interesting bit by bit. It seems to suggest that the murderer(s) is(are) among those 3 who are still left alive, if not all 3 of them are murderers now, plus Kannon (we are still not sure if he is really dead by now) and the grandfather Kinzo (but he seems to be the least suspect somehow) the prime suspect looks like it would be Genji the chef butler (no matter how i look at it) ps: I would like to ask the VN readers to leave this a episode-centric discussion and Only discuss what really happened in this episode, thx. Doubting the red truth? |
| sorry, forgot they said Kanon was killed in red. Genjis is till very suspicious though. |
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| Preview for episode 10 Now watch them not play that awesome music in the actual episode. ¬_¬ |
LunarEmeraldAug 26, 2009 9:48 PM
MarthX said: Preview for episode 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkiCOOUsOM Now watch them not play that awesome music in the actual episode. ¬_¬ Lol, yea I like the bgm of the preview. The preview ruined my view of the anime :( I had a more serious view.. It is funny though |
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| I almost forgot that Kanon dug his wound in the VN as well Last episode, I laughed at the censoring This episode, I thank censoring for carrying me through that shot |
MarthX said: Preview for episode 10 Now watch them not play that awesome music in the actual episode. ¬_¬ Shouldn't that BGM play in episode 11 though? |
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| Well, the first part was a bit boring, but it picked up quite a bit in the middle and the last scene was pretty nice. Good to see them actually master a trap without everyone getting killed. But the whole "prove that magic doesn't exist" seems kind of ridiculous to me when there are characters that can grow glowing swords out of their hands and others who transform into stakes and so on and so on ... I know ppl will probably say that Battler didn't see anything of this so it might not actually have happened the way it was shown to us, but that's a pretty lame way of presenting a mystery story in my opinion. Regarding that meta world: I suppose the meta world is when the time stops and Battler and Bea talk to each other and the rest of the episode played in the real world? Or is everyone in the meta world right now? Then was the first phase still the real world? |
ForeverAug 27, 2009 3:08 AM
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| Very happy with this episode after the disappointment of the last. Though the censor is really getting annoying, I find it hard to take it serious anymore. At least in the SN the details gave me some very disturbing imagery. Though i can only blame Jap TV for that. God I can't wait for the Tea Party... One of the best scenes in the game. |
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Forever said: Well, the first part was a bit boring, but it picked up quite a bit in the middle and the last scene was pretty nice. Good to see them actually master a trap without everyone getting killed. But the whole "prove that magic doesn't exist" seems kind of ridiculous to me when there are characters that can grow glowing swords out of their hands and others who transform into stakes and so on and so on ... I know ppl will probably say that Battler didn't see anything of this so it might not actually have happened the way it was shown to us, but that's a pretty lame way of presenting a mystery story in my opinion. Regarding that meta world: I suppose the meta world is when the time stops and Battler and Bea talk to each other and the rest of the episode played in the real world? Or is everyone in the meta world right now? Then was the first phase still the real world? Don't mistake Umineko for "just a mystery" show, cos it's not. The whole thing is about what you want to believe in. If you want to believe in magic and witches, then you can just watch it as a fantasy show. But if you think, the murder could have been human, try to think about how he did it. That's what's the most entertaining about Umineko :) About how Battler doesn't believe in magic and such: Battler doesn't believe, that magic exists in the real world (= the kakera, where the first tragedy happened). This world that we see now is another kakera, that Beatrice prepared for the game. Meaning that it can be very well corrupted to begin with. And I would say, that how Battler sees the new world, is kinda the some as watching tv: you won't believe everything you saw on tv, even tough they said it on the news right? ;) Plus, if I were in Battler's place, I would go against the witch to... I don't want her to make me her furniture and toy around me ^^' |
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| Aww shit. Awesome ep. Genji and Gohda were badass by the end of this episode. Also the song preview in the next ep preview is awesome. |
Hybrid00Aug 27, 2009 6:06 AM
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| Is there any particular reason why Umineko is censored? Sucks really... |
| lol 2chan Good episode, really. |
| This is getting weirder and weirder, and I'm still not sure what to think of it, but I'll keep watching. |
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SunyiNyufi said: Forever said: Well, the first part was a bit boring, but it picked up quite a bit in the middle and the last scene was pretty nice. Good to see them actually master a trap without everyone getting killed. But the whole "prove that magic doesn't exist" seems kind of ridiculous to me when there are characters that can grow glowing swords out of their hands and others who transform into stakes and so on and so on ... I know ppl will probably say that Battler didn't see anything of this so it might not actually have happened the way it was shown to us, but that's a pretty lame way of presenting a mystery story in my opinion. Regarding that meta world: I suppose the meta world is when the time stops and Battler and Bea talk to each other and the rest of the episode played in the real world? Or is everyone in the meta world right now? Then was the first phase still the real world? Don't mistake Umineko for "just a mystery" show, cos it's not. The whole thing is about what you want to believe in. If you want to believe in magic and witches, then you can just watch it as a fantasy show. But if you think, the murder could have been human, try to think about how he did it. That's what's the most entertaining about Umineko :) About how Battler doesn't believe in magic and such: Battler doesn't believe, that magic exists in the real world (= the kakera, where the first tragedy happened). This world that we see now is another kakera, that Beatrice prepared for the game. Meaning that it can be very well corrupted to begin with. And I would say, that how Battler sees the new world, is kinda the some as watching tv: you won't believe everything you saw on tv, even tough they said it on the news right? ;) Plus, if I were in Battler's place, I would go against the witch to... I don't want her to make me her furniture and toy around me ^^' Excellent point, so it's like saying we can only interpret what we know to be truth if Battler is A) Present or B) says its True. What confuses me is the meta worlds can be corruptible...hm. |
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| Hole crap, and to think that I was so pissed off about the censoring x__X After watching this episode, I hereby thank you, censorship dudes. Seeing Kanon, even if it wasn't the real Kanon, made me realise how much I like that guy :) GO GENJI. Another badass butler? o.O And thank God, no 'uu' from Maria this time. This episode rocked. Especially the last few minutes. |
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MarthX said: Preview for episode 10 Now watch them not play that awesome music in the actual episode. ¬_¬ Worldenddominator <33 They'd better use it. I can't really understand what Gohda is saying but he's still awesome :D I forgot to say that Rosa's voice is a lot better this episode |
hirahiraAug 27, 2009 8:20 AM
| Damn, another cencoring. I really think should search the DVD.... This episode is pretty much okay, they started to equalize between the meta-world and the game board. The fake Kanon scene was also pretty good, with Gohda and Genji's superbuttler move :D |
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| I laughed hard at Battler's lame excuse of not suspecting the servants: "because they had a happy face when cooking and like to make people happy" :/ *facepalm What Beatrice says as the red truth is the only information she gives. Any information she does not reveal or any future information that will disprove the entire red truth thing have as much possibility of existing as not existing. Anything is now possible and nothing is far fetched if explained correctly.... Again, Beatrice is playing too much.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Bladecatcher said: I can no longer watch this show with a straight face. This! I guess I'm the only one who is happy with censor =_=! (not a big fan of the gore). But great episode, I enjoy it even with the talk. Beside, this world we are seeing now. It doesn't make much sense to me at all. I believe everything <b>we</b> see on this world were illusion created by Beatrice. While when the crime scene happens with Battler trying to explain things, it's actually the real thing of whats going on. It looks more like that to me. Beatrice just want to exist.. <.<' Oh well, I could totally wrong. Can't wait for more action from Beatrice next episode *-* |
wakka9ca said: I laughed hard at Battler's lame excuse of not suspecting the servants: "because they had a happy face when cooking and like to make people happy" :/ *facepalm He just means that he believes they are not the culprit. That's just his opinion, not his argument. His argument is "to be suspious does not mean to be guilty". |
| lol Shannon were awesome, when she jumped after kanon(zombie)'s attack °_° |
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Minako20 said: lol Shannon were awesome, when she jumped after kanon(zombie)'s attack °_° it was a little weird that she could do that. then dr and the old lady just get owned by the attack without being able to move out of the way. |
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4saken_762 said: wakka9ca said: I laughed hard at Battler's lame excuse of not suspecting the servants: "because they had a happy face when cooking and like to make people happy" :/ *facepalm He just means that he believes they are not the culprit. That's just his opinion, not his argument. His argument is "to be suspious does not mean to be guilty". It was still very funny how it was shown.... Meta-Battler is not doing a better job but you can't blame him, the entire second arc is biased towards Beatrice. Battler needs some foreign elements/pieces to gain some ground (like Hanyuu in Higurashi)... maybe in the next arc? (I haven't read the VN) I hope Bern will appear at this end of this arc too and somehow decides to butt in, not necessarily meaning that's a good thing.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| If only this episode had adrenaline pumping music when Battler proved that Kanon wasn't the who killed Jessica, it would've been really close to perfect. Those types of moments are supposed to pump you up and make you think fuck yeah! You tell them Battler! |
Stevefx said: Excellent point, so it's like saying we can only interpret what we know to be truth if Battler is A) Present or B) says its True. What confuses me is the meta worlds can be corruptible...hm. Actually, even with the red truth you have to be careful, cos it only states one thing as absolute truth. Like, it was stated (regarding the closed room in which Jessica and Kanon died): The only master keys are the ones that each servant holds, one per person. There are absolutely no types of hidden doors. This door is the only entrance or exit. The only way to lock this door is with Jessica's single key or the master keys, only one of which is held by each servant. The window is locked from the inside. When locked, entry is not possible by any means. No device could have the effect of locking the door from the outside without using a key. But hey, can we sure about that the single key they found in the room is Jessica's key? Of course the servants said that it is Jessy's, but it was based on the keychain, that the key had. But how long does it take to take of the keychain and put it on a different key? Around 30 seconds? And it was never stated in red, that the key found was Jessica's, so unless they lock Jessy's room with this key and not the masterkey, we can not be sure. With all that I just wanted to say, that even though the red truth is fact, one should know how to interpret it. |
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| Pretty pleased with this episode. Adaptation wise, it was almost on par with episode 5. I really like how the red text spun around them. But it also seems like Battler doesn't notice it, so maybe it's more of a way for the viewer's to see the text. And lawl at the Wolf and Sheep puzzle. Makes me think back when I spent a good deal of time trying to solve it in Professor Layton and the Curious Village under 11 moves. XD |
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| O.o Shannon = super maid lolz the censoring with Kanon was a bit O.o Keykeyoh said: Minako20 said: lol Shannon were awesome, when she jumped after kanon(zombie)'s attack °_° it was a little weird that she could do that. then dr and the old lady just get owned by the attack without being able to move out of the way. well the dr was kinda fat no? and old lady is uh old? |
| I'm glad to see so far it looks like most of the people enjoyed this episode :) I did too. The beginning did seem to be slower compared to the awesome ending of the episode! I'm already a Kanon fan but when he showed up half dead I thought crap.. but when he came back to life and started playing with the wound (I shivered) that was really good. I know it wasn't him but still ..oh and the shirtless part was good too >.> I was wondering about the spider webs? I was a little confused where Shannon was going and then it was like holy water to a demon.. This episode really didn't let me down at all. |
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