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Aug 9, 2009 1:24 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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- Good pre-OP scene :3
- They cut out Envy Vs RanFan, but oh well -____-
- They cut out the scene where Ling cuts Gluttony in two -_-
- Badassness of Lust :3
- And down goes Havoc.
- And down goes Barry T_T
- Riza's meltdown :3
- Al's Crowning Moment of Awesome NOT omitted for first time :3
- Mustang's Uber GAR Crowning Moment of Awesome which beats anything from FMA1 is here! :333
- Aaaaaand, Another cliffie :3


Next Episode: Yet another most awaited thing :3


EDIT: According to the newest episode titles, its not going to slow down -___-
AhenshihaelAug 9, 2009 1:44 AM
Aug 9, 2009 2:57 AM
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woah!woah! woah! Gundam Al!!!!
Aug 9, 2009 3:51 AM
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Such a pity they cut out a few scenes. Guess its inevitable..
Aug 9, 2009 5:10 AM
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I have been waiting for this episode since they skipped past it in the original season. Mustang's BAMF-ness is without a doubt my favorite part of the manga, and now the anime. Love it.
Aug 9, 2009 8:14 AM
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I'd forgotten how epic that part was lol. Very nicely done episode, even if they did cut out Ranfan and Ling's involvement in the battle. Great animation when Roy was killing Lust, Roy epicness all left intact, and they FINALLY showed how cool Alphonse can be. Seriously, I've been waiting for a really great Al moment in this anime; FMA1 killed off his personality horribly. Plus, Havoc. Poor guy; stabbed in the back by the chick he was dating. He really does have a crappy time with girls lol.

Only thing that bothers me is that the lack of the Ranfan and Ling battle with Envy and Gluttony can cause a few problems later on. That was the battle that


Spoiler'd for those that haven't read the manga and want to, and also that the thing I said will probably happen in future episodes. I hope so at least.

Very good episode other than that though. Roy epicness is always epic. <3 Definitely one of his best moments throughout FMA.
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Aug 9, 2009 8:59 AM
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Wow....Roy sure epic this episode when he burnt Lust mercilessly :-)
Aug 9, 2009 11:35 AM
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I usually don't watch raws, but I couldn't wait for this episode. I loved every minute, best episode so far in my opinion.
Aug 9, 2009 12:16 PM
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I loved it <3

I wish they would slow it down just a tiny bit though.

Aug 9, 2009 2:31 PM
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FUCK YEAH MY FAVOURITE EPISODE

(screencap under spoiler)


I will even excuse them for cutting out the Ling and Ran Fan moments (IMO, the pacing still fails).

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Aug 9, 2009 8:12 PM

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i've read the manga so i know what happens but cant wait to watch lust vs. roy :)

too bad about the ran fan and ling fight involvement......they always have the best scenes in the manga IMO lol
Aug 9, 2009 8:30 PM
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I watched the rawr version so I don't know what they said but it was still awesome.
Aug 10, 2009 12:17 AM

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It was a great episode - It's great to see they are finally giving Alphonse some quality time.
Aug 10, 2009 1:48 AM
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I am really really disepointed: ( The lust battle was awsome but they cut out envy from the whole episode! Envy is my fav character from fma. And they cut out ling vs gluttony: (
So it will be an 4 from me.
Aug 10, 2009 2:03 AM
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Great episode. Mustang's fire blast was epic, really nice :D
Aug 10, 2009 2:17 AM

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I fucking love this show. Awesome episode, loved every minute of it.
Aug 10, 2009 2:46 AM

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Best so far this season. Really kicked it into high gear and left it there the whole ep. Cant wait for next week.
Aug 10, 2009 3:20 AM

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Favorite Episode of the season so far. I haven't read the manga so this episode was just full of so much win....so much happened in one episode and I was almost crying with Riza till Mustang showed up.

My friend is holding me back from reading the manga because he likes being the one who knows what's going to happen for once but after that episode....I don't think I can hold off much longer.
Aug 10, 2009 3:37 AM

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Wah they killed off Lust, they are proceeding quickly. I don't mind though.
I love the extra instrumental phase into the credits though.
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Aug 10, 2009 3:47 AM

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Been waiting for AGES for them to animate this, and it did not disappoint. It was so good I forgot about the stuff with Ling and Ran Fan. :<
Aug 10, 2009 3:48 AM

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Finally I get to see why the manga was SOOOO Much better than the original anime. THANK YOU for the remake, this was a GREAT!!!! Episode
Aug 10, 2009 5:57 AM

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How frickin' Bad-ass is Mustang? Best episode of the series so far :D
Aug 10, 2009 6:04 AM

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Delicious animation at some points. Awesome episode, Mustang is badass.
Aug 10, 2009 6:04 AM

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Awesome episode. The best so far.
Aug 10, 2009 6:31 AM

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O_O

Fire! Fire! FIRE! BURN!!!

Saying Mustang is badass would be an understatement.

Seriously, great episode, everything was nicely done and I loved every bit of it. I seriously laughed hard during the scene with Alphonse and Winry at the end.
Aug 10, 2009 6:51 AM
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I absolutely loved it. It was full of action and it ended with style. Mustang standing firmly to the very end... what a scene! i think this episode is where it starts to get interesting for the fans who havent read the manga. because the plot really starts to deviate from the previous series.
Aug 10, 2009 6:58 AM

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What a fucking episode.

A-MA-ZING
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Aug 10, 2009 7:19 AM
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omg, this episode was fucking amazing!!!

did that happen in the original anime, it has been some time since i watched it - but i cant remember that scene ... since what episode is fma2 different from the original anime? and why?
Aug 10, 2009 7:29 AM
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Most epic episode of both FMA series, hands down. The intensity and dynamism of the animation and direction in the fights and all scenaristic developments was simply unbelievable. And Hohenheim appears at the end of the episode on top of that.

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Aug 10, 2009 7:30 AM

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This episode BLEW my mind XD!! Opening scene was great!

I loved Hawkeye's breakdown - it was very fresh in the sense that I've never seen her cry like before (since I didn't read the manga and I believe she didn't cry at all in FMA1)

Havoc and Barry TT__TT...

Roy definitely stole the spotlight this episode :3 ~!! <3

And I loved the ending cliffhanger with a beautiful and smooth transition of the ending song *nods*

Can't wait till next week again :P

Taihaku said:
My friend is holding me back from reading the manga because he likes being the one who knows what's going to happen for once but after that episode....I don't think I can hold off much longer.
Omg, you have such a selfish friend. What right does he/she have to determine whether or not you can read the manga, don't listen to him/her >=(!! Read the manga if you want to!! I support this!!

legiogallica said:
I absolutely loved it. It was full of action and it ended with style. Mustang standing firmly to the very end... what a scene! i think this episode is where it starts to get interesting for the fans who havent read the manga. because the plot really starts to deviate from the previous series.
I beg to differ, it deviated from FMA1 veeeery early on :P
Aug 10, 2009 7:36 AM

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Freaking AMAZING EPISODE!
Aug 10, 2009 7:52 AM

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Greath fight. Roy was pretty badass and Al was badass 2. Liza Hawkeye was awesome!

Poor Barry R.I.P.
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Aug 10, 2009 8:04 AM

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Mustang used Fire Blast.

It's super effective!

Foe Lust fainted.
Aug 10, 2009 8:04 AM

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Mustang used Fire Blast.

It's super effective!

Foe Lust fainted.
hahahahaha XD
Aug 10, 2009 8:06 AM

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awesome episode......i missed the "immortal!" moment from the manga though lol i loved ling and ran fan in the manga during this fight

Aug 10, 2009 8:07 AM
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Epic is just the middle name. Mustang is a freakin' stallion of war.
Aug 10, 2009 8:28 AM

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Mustang really overruled this episode. He was epic, awesome, bad-ass and hot. Do want a wallpaper of him of this episode.
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Aug 10, 2009 8:37 AM
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Wish it showed Ran fan and Ling's fight versus greed and gluttony, other then that, awesome!
Aug 10, 2009 9:26 AM

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whoa that was insane
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Aug 10, 2009 9:55 AM

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Burn Homunculus burn XD
lol when Al's arm fell off
well looks like Ed's dad is there too XD
Aug 10, 2009 9:58 AM

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Mustang kicks incredible amounts of ass. Lust was great, Havok was sad... love that supporting characters can actually be killed off in battles, shows actual plot movement.
Aug 10, 2009 9:59 AM

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Really good episode. It was kind of spoiled by the randomness of the Barry and Hohenheim scene at the end, but entertaining nonetheless. Shame Lust had to die, but I guess that's more of my attachment to her from the first series than this one speaking.

As much as I like Al here more than in the first show, he's almost equally useless. He can do alchemy without a circle, and basically only manages to create a spear, and then be an iron shield for Riza. I really wish they'd do more with him.
Aug 10, 2009 10:26 AM
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Hell yeah, this episode was amazing. I loved this part in the manga, and seeing it in anime form was just as entertaining. Roy is the man.
Aug 10, 2009 10:34 AM

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Holy fucking shit! Roy Mustang was even more awesome in this episode, and I didn't even think that was possible. He was more badass, manly, and garish in this episode than he was in all of the original FMA. Seriously, he fucking rocks my socks.

Aug 10, 2009 10:47 AM

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The massive level of Roy's manliness made me forgive the fact they took out the Ran Fan-Ling vs. Envy-Gluttony scenes.
Aug 10, 2009 10:50 AM

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I wish they would slow it down just a tiny bit though.


exactly my thoughts. The new series is pretty good but it feels a bit rushed. It gets -1 for badpacing
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Aug 10, 2009 11:01 AM

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LOL. I liked how Havoc and Roy just ran from Lust like a bunch of pussy's. Roy is and always will be useless in the rain.

But dude...Lust is a crazy bitch. Holy shit.

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Mutant_Ing55 said:
The massive level of Roy's manliness made me forgive the fact they took out the Ran Fan-Ling vs. Envy-Gluttony scenes.


Honestly, the episode was a lot better without these scenes. Ran Fan and Envy would have come from nowhere, and the scenes would have been a distraction from the direction, focus and pacing of the show, which was great. Besides, those scenes serve a purpose and could be inserted/adapted later on, they aren't pertinent plot points.

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by the randomness of the Barry and Hohenheim scene at the end, but entertaining nonetheless.


The Barry end scene could only be done in this episode, and was pretty ironic, even a little sad. Hohenheim was an obviously important segue to episode 20. The spear was very useless, but Lust would have cut/pierced through anything Al could have created, it's not as if he could easily create fire like Mustang.

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The new series is pretty good but it feels a bit rushed. It gets -1 for badpacing


Details please, as to why this episode was badly paced. I don't understand.
Aug 10, 2009 11:09 AM

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I don't think the Barry scene was necessary, unless his body comes back for something, but even then, that surprise is gone. His "death" earlier was much better, and the end just takes away from that.

As for Hohenheim, I know it's important, but it was random nonetheless, and incongruent to the tone of the episode. Maybe they should have done it in 18.
Aug 10, 2009 11:13 AM

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noteDhero said:
I don't think the Barry scene was necessary, unless his body comes back for something, but even then, that surprise is gone. His "death" earlier was much better, and the end just takes away from that.


That was important too. Plot important.

noteDhero said:
As much as I like Al here more than in the first show, he's almost equally useless. He can do alchemy without a circle, and basically only manages to create a spear, and then be an iron shield for Riza. I really wish they'd do more with him.


Thats because the anime studio tends to cut out all Al scenes...Which is sad...really...

As for Hohenheim stuff, blame anime rearrangement...

In the manga:
First we have the whole Lust/Mustang/Havoc stuff (alongside the cut out Envy/Gluttony/Pride/Ling/RanFan/Fu encounter) in the underground.
Then we have Ed at Xerxes plot, which latter culminates with him meeting Hohenheim at Risembool.

If they did all according to manga, Hohenheim scene would not feel so...out of place.
AhenshihaelAug 10, 2009 11:20 AM
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