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Jul 10, 2014 5:31 AM

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Honestly, if you guys like talking so much just watch Bakemonogatari, a series that makes talking look and seem fun.
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The talking in Bakemonogatari was so boring for me. I just could not handle watching 24 min of boring talk about boring subject

The talking in SAO II was about serious subject, it was about how these player got heart failure. There is some mystery here. This something that make me excited.
Jul 10, 2014 7:15 AM

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thepath said:
So many haters here.

Finally watched this, and it sooo great. I enjoyed every second of it from start to finish. I like that new villain called death gun. And this blue haired girl look so hot, Also, the new op looks good.

So many good animes in this season. SAO II, Akame ga Kill!, Aldnoah.Zero and Tokyo Ghoul are all must watch for this season.

Somebody who actually isn't complaining finally we're saved! :D
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Jul 10, 2014 7:21 AM

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Very mixed feelings, not going to say anything else.
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Jul 10, 2014 7:28 AM

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A_Lonely_Jedi said:
thepath said:
So many haters here.

Finally watched this, and it sooo great. I enjoyed every second of it from start to finish. I like that new villain called death gun. And this blue haired girl look so hot, Also, the new op looks good.

So many good animes in this season. SAO II, Akame ga Kill!, Aldnoah.Zero and Tokyo Ghoul are all must watch for this season.

Somebody who actually isn't complaining finally we're saved! :D
What? There were plenty of people not complaining, we just had the unfortunate event of multiple haters posting at the same time.

Eh I was late, thank you Caleb and the others.
Jul 10, 2014 7:35 AM

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Lol at people complaining about the Death Gun username and the lack of cover and vehicles.
I mean yeah.Horrible writing right there.

Also the guys complaining about people liking this ep.
Yeah I couldnt stay away for long:/
Jul 10, 2014 7:39 AM

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ssjokg said:
Lol at people complaining about the Death Gun username and the lack of cover and vehicles.
I mean yeah.Horrible writing right there.
And then if a "better" name is chosen from mythology or some shit "omg so pretentious."
Also a question since I never read the novels, are there vehicles in GGO?

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Also the guys complaining about people liking this ep.
Yeah I couldnt stay away for long:/
Would be nice if you stay :p
Jul 10, 2014 7:47 AM

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Botato said:
ssjokg said:
Lol at people complaining about the Death Gun username and the lack of cover and vehicles.
I mean yeah.Horrible writing right there.
And then if a "better" name is chosen from mythology or some shit "omg so pretentious."
Also a question since I never read the novels, are there vehicles in GGO?

There were some buggies and
from what I remember.
Jul 10, 2014 7:53 AM

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@Botato I was joking I know a lot of people did enjoy it (including me) I was just being random.

I added a little face at the end -> :D

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ssjokg said:
Botato said:
And then if a "better" name is chosen from mythology or some shit "omg so pretentious."
Also a question since I never read the novels, are there vehicles in GGO?

There were some buggies and
from what I remember.
Huh.. Sounds interesting.
Can't wait to see buggies animated.

A_Lonely_Jedi said:
@Botato I was joking I know a lot of people did enjoy it (including me) I was just being random.

I added a little face at the end -> :D
Oh alright o.o
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Sorry for confusing you.
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Jul 10, 2014 8:39 AM
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eh kind of grinder to watch. ill give it a few more episodes before i drop
Jul 10, 2014 9:30 AM

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^ O_o What did I just read?
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Jul 10, 2014 9:38 AM

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A_Lonely_Jedi said:
^ O_o What did I just read?
It's okay, just ignore it. Horrible attempt at sarcasm.
Jul 10, 2014 9:41 AM
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Botato said:
A_Lonely_Jedi said:
^ O_o What did I just read?
It's okay, just ignore it. Horrible attempt at sarcasm.


XD

Well I enjoyed reading it. Great insight, indeed :D
Jul 10, 2014 11:02 AM

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Not a bad start given how much exposition they needed to cram in. Given that Phantom Bullet is a sizable arc in the LN's I expect this will take up at least the first 18 episodes, with maybe the last 6 on Mothers Rosario.

It is more or less confirmed to be 12 episodes. I don't think it's gonna be more than 14. The 2 books is together a bit more than 660 pages, the first episode covered the first 2 chapters+prologue which is about 60 pages. There are a total of 23 chapters+prologue which makes it kinda reasonable to be 12 episodes

Really? Thats kind of disappointing, I'm now half expecting the story to get butchered. I guess the rest will be made out of Mothers Rosario and the search for Excalibur, which would need massive rewriting as they skipped the Jotenheim section from the ALO arc.
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I really liked the first episode. I voted 4 but if there were half ratings, I would give it a 4.5.

I liked how it setup the arc. It was setting up a whole "murder mystery" sort of feel.

Also, the Asuna and Kirito moments were great. Not everyone likes the cheesy relationship they have but it is VERY similar to the last long relationship I had a couple of years ago so it's very relatable. People may find it unrealistic but I don't believe so. Perhaps I'm just a cheesy person! Pretty much, I really liked the first episode for the introduction to the series and the romance scenes that I have been dying for.

I do however with that there was some action in this episode. I was hoping that he would at least start playing Gun Gale Online.

Hopefully the two novels aren't spread out into the full 24 episodes of the season. If they are, I hope that the pacing isn't terribly slow.

I would either hope that it takes up 24 episodes and accomplishes what Aincrad didn't by removing time skips and giving the arc the glory it deserves while keeping nice pacing or for it to take up 14 episodes to remove the need for filler and to include Caliber and Mother Rosario.
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Jul 10, 2014 1:46 PM

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If Kirito uses a gun this arc I'm skipping it. I'm already tired of all FPS and most TPS.
Jul 10, 2014 2:05 PM

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bonifide said:
If Kirito uses a gun this arc I'm skipping it. I'm already tired of all FPS and most TPS.
He uses a lightsaber (so cool) and a pistol.
Jul 10, 2014 2:26 PM

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All the hate is ridiculous. I think this episode was a really good start, cant wait to see more. Kirito using lightsaber looks awesome.

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If Kirito uses a gun this arc I'm skipping it. I'm already tired of all FPS and most TPS.

He will be known as "Kirito the fps Jedi".
Jul 10, 2014 3:16 PM

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i just hope it dont go to sh.... like the Secound half of the first season....
Jul 10, 2014 4:06 PM

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Well better late than never. Just finished watching it and I must say I enjoyed it. I mean yes it wasnt the most action oriented thing in the world but set up is always welcome IMO.
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Jul 10, 2014 4:25 PM

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Unlucky-kat said:

HikoSeijuroXIV said:


I didn't say they were using him to investigate, I'm just saying it seems a little unrealistic for the Ministry of Internal Affairs to be asking him for help in this.

And regarding your answer to my question, thanks, it helped.

It might seem strannge. But he isn't some random 17 year old. He is a guy that have 3 years of experience of vrmmos. Not only is his character experienced from it but also himself is. Since there is no way the japanese government is gonna search under every rock in USA for Zasker because of a coincidence/hoax then they have to search in-game for clues.


Just because Kirito happened to be a strong player in SAO doesn't mean he's qualified to act as a detective for the government.

But then again if I consider we're talking about Kirito, who's an amazing solo player, a super hacker, and a total chick magnet, then it's possible he's also a master detective.

Say, do you think he knows how to perform open-heart surgery too?
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Jul 10, 2014 5:03 PM

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Rubbish. 2-3rds of the episode wasted on talk which could have been done more interestingly within 5 minutes, asuna and kiritos talk was again forced as with the previous season so therefore I cannot take this couple seriously and also don't talk about time planes and other "intelligent" talk when it looks like its being pulled out of thin air and if anything a poor attempt to make them any less obnoxious.
The new character is giving me hope, and to be honest their budgets for this second season is disturbing low considering the first season became the most overrated animes of all time and yet all they could afford to animate was some middle aged guy begging a teenager to save the world of video games once again for around 10 minutes of my time, not taking into consideration any trauma whatsoever, just give him cake its fine.
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HikoSeijuroXIV said:
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It might seem strannge. But he isn't some random 17 year old. He is a guy that have 3 years of experience of vrmmos. Not only is his character experienced from it but also himself is. Since there is no way the japanese government is gonna search under every rock in USA for Zasker because of a coincidence/hoax then they have to search in-game for clues.


Just because Kirito happened to be a strong player in SAO doesn't mean he's qualified to act as a detective for the government.

But then again if I consider we're talking about Kirito, who's an amazing solo player, a super hacker, and a total chick magnet, then it's possible he's also a master detective.

Say, do you think he knows how to perform open-heart surgery too?

Yeah they need a real professional detective in order to look for a high level player that acts like Death Gun, a player(not murderer since they dont think it isnt possible) that isnt even trying to hide.
Another high level player is obviously a bad choice.
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Or maybe they already call a pro dectective, but I see no problem if they asking Kirito for help too... Cuz he know many things about full-dive tech.
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A lot of people think that the first episode has excessive setup to the point where action is for the most part ignored. Although this can be considered to be partially true, it's just a unique style of story-telling that uses a lot of rising action.

Based on this, the ending (credits) could have been arguable better. A lot more action. As far as the animation of the fights, it seems to be quite good, considering what one might find in other series. Quite well done in planning as well, since Kirito was always in a smooth motion, or natural, if you will.

That much teasing for later arcs was definitely unnecessary, but I suppose that it isn't broken.

Even when I read the LN, I didn't quite get why Kirito's avatar was . . . well, you know. Makes for a hilarious scene later on (if they decide to include it). Certainly is something fresh. Strange, but fresh. Now, panic: CAN ANYBODY PLZZZZ EXPLAIN TO ME WHY AUTHOR DO THIS TO ME????? O.o

Would have been nice if Kawahara (author) didn't make GGO so disconnected from the original arcs, but I suppose it's said and done, so no point in mourning over it.

Judging from the pace, this could become a 12-13-ish episode arc. I'm not quite sure how they would make it longer, since there's not quite enough material in the LNs. Also, not spoiling anything, Alicization (UW arc) is very, very long compared to the original arcs, so instead they might put in a couple side stories (look them up, one of them is in ALO).

I'm quite interested in how much the animation crew will mess with the plot. It's quite intact so far, aside from different intervals.

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ssjokg said:
HikoSeijuroXIV said:


Just because Kirito happened to be a strong player in SAO doesn't mean he's qualified to act as a detective for the government.

But then again if I consider we're talking about Kirito, who's an amazing solo player, a super hacker, and a total chick magnet, then it's possible he's also a master detective.

Say, do you think he knows how to perform open-heart surgery too?

Yeah they need a real professional detective in order to look for a high level player that acts like Death Gun, a player(not murderer since they dont think it isnt possible) that isnt even trying to hide.
Another high level player is obviously a bad choice.


Yeah, but I guess we can't really accept any realism from SAO.
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Is that a new standard that a series needs to have for everyone to shut up?Realism?

Just asking because you DO have favs in your list.
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Not sure but I think someone needs to check their sarcasm detector.
Jul 10, 2014 7:44 PM

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"OMG the first episode didn't have enough action in it drop!"

^That is what I seem to be seeing from all these people complaining about it.

Dem haters...
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A_Lonely_Jedi said:
"OMG the first episode didn't have enough action in it drop!"

^That is what I seem to be seeing from all these people complaining about it.

Dem haters...


Can you qoute a couple of them because I see people stating how boring the dialogue was in the first episode and that it wasn't executed properly.
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Mikatarukito said:
A_Lonely_Jedi said:
"OMG the first episode didn't have enough action in it drop!"

^That is what I seem to be seeing from all these people complaining about it.

Dem haters...

Can you qoute a couple of them because I see people stating how boring the dialogue was in the first episode and that it wasn't executed properly.

I can't really quote because I don't know if anybody actually said that and I would have to go on an adventure to find one who did, but anyways they can't really complain about how well it was executed since it is how the LN begins and they did a really good job on it so far.

Also you were more or less right. (more)
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It's because the series is extremely hyped that people are grasping at straws to find ways to hate it. Realism, ugly characters, OP main lead, FPS, stereotypical names, crossdressers, etc. It's like they never watched worse anime in their lives.

Dropping because the first episode was boring, it's the introductory episode so what do you expect? The first episode of the first season was the same too. There wouldn't be much of a plot if they skipped straight to the action. Could it be expressed better? Perhaps, but going through one episode with all exposition leaves room for more nonstop action later.
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LastChapter said:
It's because the series is extremely hyped that people are grasping at straws to find ways to hate it. Realism, ugly characters, OP main lead, FPS, stereotypical names, crossdressers, etc. It's like they never watched worse anime in their lives.

Dropping because the first episode was boring, it's the introductory episode so what do you expect? The first episode of the first season was the same too. There wouldn't be much of a plot if they skipped straight to the action. Could it be expressed better? Perhaps, but going through one episode with all exposition leaves room for more nonstop action later.


Don't waste your breath. You should've known by now that a lot of people were just waiting for the new season 2 air so they can all flock and say why it's terrible. Heck people were getting bored from shitting on the first season, so when they heard a new season will air this year, they were all happy and cheering about it. No matter how good this season is, people will just hate on this series just because they didn't like the first season.
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Sinon is the main reason to watch this season, guys.
Jul 11, 2014 1:27 AM

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HikoSeijuroXIV said:


Just because Kirito happened to be a strong player in SAO doesn't mean he's qualified to act as a detective for the government.

But then again if I consider we're talking about Kirito, who's an amazing solo player, a super hacker, and a total chick magnet, then it's possible he's also a master detective.

Say, do you think he knows how to perform open-heart surgery too?

It wasn't a coincidence that he became a strong player in SAO. He isn't a master detective/doctor/w/e as he is just gonna go there and get some impressions. Anyone could do that. But he is very experienced in VR compared to agents that has hasn't been playing it for 3+ years. So there is no reason for them to not use Kirito as a resource and I don't see why they should hire expensive agents for something that has 90% chance to be a coincidence/hoax.
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That was great, really looking forward to seeing Kirito play in GGO
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Ok I watched the first season in 1 day...

Then watched this right after....

My opinion on the first season is quite unchanged by the some weird stuff in second part of it... Mostly rape is what disturbed me, there was no need for Asuna to get naked, byt hey, they weirded the more I like it...

I don't think second arc was forced. I loved the initial idea, being kept till this guy gets the right to marry her.

As for the second season.

I was quite surprised by how serious it was. It gave me something to look forward. Some uknown X that has to be investigated, found and equation solved. That immediatelly screems "yay" to me...

I love the slower pacing. I don't want to be thrown into a story not knowing anything.

As to why is Kirito asked to help... I don't want to quote everyone...

Well guys, he is high level, experienced player. Yes detective might be better for investigation, but Kirito's job is to get intel. To get close to high level players. And him being on of the top vmmorpg players is exactly wgat qualifies him for that role.

Can't wait for more :D
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It's because the series is extremely hyped that people are grasping at straws to find ways to hate it. Realism, ugly characters, OP main lead, FPS, stereotypical names, crossdressers, etc. It's like they never watched worse anime in their lives.

Dropping because the first episode was boring, it's the introductory episode so what do you expect? The first episode of the first season was the same too. There wouldn't be much of a plot if they skipped straight to the action. Could it be expressed better? Perhaps, but going through one episode with all exposition leaves room for more nonstop action later.



OBJECTION! (Sorry I really needed to say that)

I don't understand why everyone states that haters are people who dislike the hype about SAO, that's wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and SAO fans make the series seem worse as they act like they can't accept other peoples opinions.
Oddly enough, as a hater I find that I'm so interested in the next episode I can't wait to watch it. But sadly after a few days I regret watching it. In my opinion; action couldn't have saved this first episode as stated before, they poorly executed this first episode even if they were following the order of the light novel. Still. I wont judge and lets see if episode 10 or so will make me skip like 5 episodes like the first season did.
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Mikatarukito said:
LastChapter said:
It's because the series is extremely hyped that people are grasping at straws to find ways to hate it. Realism, ugly characters, OP main lead, FPS, stereotypical names, crossdressers, etc. It's like they never watched worse anime in their lives.

Dropping because the first episode was boring, it's the introductory episode so what do you expect? The first episode of the first season was the same too. There wouldn't be much of a plot if they skipped straight to the action. Could it be expressed better? Perhaps, but going through one episode with all exposition leaves room for more nonstop action later.



OBJECTION! (Sorry I really needed to say that)

I don't understand why everyone states that haters are people who dislike the hype about SAO, that's wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and SAO fans make the series seem worse as they act like they can't accept other peoples opinions.
Oddly enough, as a hater I find that I'm so interested in the next episode I can't wait to watch it. But sadly after a few days I regret watching it. In my opinion; action couldn't have saved this first episode as stated before, they poorly executed this first episode even if they were following the order of the light novel. Still. I wont judge and lets see if episode 10 or so will make me skip like 5 episodes like the first season did.


OBJECTION OVERRULED! (xD)

Stating your opinion is fine, disliking SAO is fine, too, hating it for nonexistent reasons is not!

I have no problem with people saying they dislike SAO, even hating it if the fans deny your opinion, but I HATE it that people invent flaws...

SAO has enough flaws on its own, you don't need to do that; still it is done everywhere and that's what I dislike about the so called "haters".

Back to this episode: Yeah I can see that it is slow and I know that many people don't like slow starts so it's obvious this episode has invoked different feelings, from good till bad, still some of the "weaknesses" people point out are stupid.

People complaining about Kirito using a light saber blocking shots e. g. they go from the OP (which, for the sake of being watchable, omits the main reason why he can do that) without knowing anything about it from the anime itself...

This is btw nothing aimed at you, I use this just for the sake of argumentation ;-)

As for the action, as seen in the preview it will start next episode :-D
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LastChapter said:
It's because the series is extremely hyped that people are grasping at straws to find ways to hate it. Realism, ugly characters, OP main lead, FPS, stereotypical names, crossdressers, etc. It's like they never watched worse anime in their lives.

Dropping because the first episode was boring, it's the introductory episode so what do you expect? The first episode of the first season was the same too. There wouldn't be much of a plot if they skipped straight to the action. Could it be expressed better? Perhaps, but going through one episode with all exposition leaves room for more nonstop action later.


Don't waste your breath. You should've known by now that a lot of people were just waiting for the new season 2 air so they can all flock and say why it's terrible. Heck people were getting bored from shitting on the first season, so when they heard a new season will air this year, they were all happy and cheering about it. No matter how good this season is, people will just hate on this series just because they didn't like the first season.
Couldn't agree more.

First bolded part is true, proven by the fact that SAO II has a lower score even though it's a sequel.

Second one, while I don't really want to generalize, but I've seen enough posts in this thread that fit this sentence perfectly, which is just sad.
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This looks much more promising than SAO I so far, hope I'm not wrong
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Xievie said:
I disliked it because it was boring. There really wasn't any action, and the opening was kind of... euhhh...

I did like Desu Gan and we got to see some sweet Sinon booty.
Other than that, it was a pretty bad and uninteresting first episode.

Kirito's cake looked tasty though. 10/10

Overall I think the episode gave it a bad start and the opening was super ugly on the eyes. I'm sure the next episode will do something to redeem it as long as it isn't another 20 minutes of Kirito bullshits. 4/10 so far for me.

Assuming they will adapt the LN properly, Kirito won't even be in the next episode.
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Unlucky-kat said:
Xievie said:
I disliked it because it was boring. There really wasn't any action, and the opening was kind of... euhhh...

I did like Desu Gan and we got to see some sweet Sinon booty.
Other than that, it was a pretty bad and uninteresting first episode.

Kirito's cake looked tasty though. 10/10

Overall I think the episode gave it a bad start and the opening was super ugly on the eyes. I'm sure the next episode will do something to redeem it as long as it isn't another 20 minutes of Kirito bullshits. 4/10 so far for me.

Assuming they will adapt the LN properly, Kirito won't even be in the next episode.


The next 2 episodes ;-)

@Xievie as I said I can see people finding slow starts boring, on the other hand it excited every LN reader as in terms of faithfulness they stepped way up compared to last season ^^
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Unlucky-kat said:

Assuming they will adapt the LN properly, Kirito won't even be in the next episode.


The next 2 episodes ;-)

@Xievie as I said I can see people finding slow starts boring, on the other hand it excited every LN reader as in terms of faithfulness they stepped way up compared to last season ^^


Well I guess it's not so bad if it's faithful to the LN, but if it wasn't it would probably be an AWFUL episode. Until you told me that it's faithful to the LN, I just thought it was a boring first episode that they didn't even attempt to make an interesting first episode out of. I guess that's enough to raise my hopes for the anime tht much more.
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If people would look at LastChapter's first comment (on first page) they would know it was faithful to the LN when he said how well it was adapted "perfectly adapted."
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Xievie said:
Well I guess it's not so bad if it's faithful to the LN, but if it wasn't it would probably be an AWFUL episode. Until you told me that it's faithful to the LN, I just thought it was a boring first episode that they didn't even attempt to make an interesting first episode out of. I guess that's enough to raise my hopes for the anime tht much more.
What? Just because it didn't have action?
I thought the episode was very interesting. Good exposition, introduced the main mystery, some infodump about GGO, VR, etc..

It did a very good job at setting things up as far as I'm concerned.
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Botato said:
What? Just because it didn't have action?
I thought the episode was very interesting. Good exposition, introduced the main mystery, some infodump about GGO, VR, etc..

It did a very good job at setting things up as far as I'm concerned.
Well it did that in a very dead pan manner imo.
Not to mention if this is silly action, it shouldn't bother trying to be hard fiction!
Jul 11, 2014 10:40 AM

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T3hSource said:
Botato said:
What? Just because it didn't have action?
I thought the episode was very interesting. Good exposition, introduced the main mystery, some infodump about GGO, VR, etc..

It did a very good job at setting things up as far as I'm concerned.
Well it did that in a very dead pan manner imo.
Not to mention if this is silly action, it shouldn't bother trying to be hard fiction!

It's not trying to be hard fiction. Explaining things about the world our characters are in only enhances the experience, it also helps for when the "silly action" starts since the viewer will have a better understanding of what's going down.
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