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despaircest said: lol that was NOT annie like, at all wow they completely missed her character Agreed. And still that bitter feeling that the anime doesn't move so much and ready itself for the second season. I would have prefered that the traitor story remains dormant for a while, for a better surprise effect. But I still can't badnote this one, cause as ever, the art style and the "staging" were great. |
kolibri said: despaircest said: lol that was NOT annie like, at all wow they completely missed her character Agreed. And still that bitter feeling that the anime doesn't move so much and ready itself for the second season. I would have prefered that the traitor story remains dormant for a while, for a better surprise effect. But I still can't badnote this one, cause as ever, the art style and the "staging" were great. Except Isayama himself insisted they do it like that. So they didn't ruin anything |
almlima said: Can anybody explain me how they found out she was the female titan? I didn't get, probably bad subtitles and stuff. (didnt watch in english) Raitei said: Huh.. I didn't see that coming at all... How did they/Armin figure out Annie was the Female Titan in the first place? Just because she had Marco's 3D gear and she didn't kill Armin in the field (she knew who Armin's "best friend" was so she hesitated for a second to allow Jean to escape)? And then she didn't go down the tunnel, which (I guess) was the confirmation they were waiting for because if she went down the tunnel, she'd be trapped underground if she tried to summon a Titan, but what if she had just followed them down the tunnel while feigning ignorance? Would that have meant they would stop thinking she was the female titan? It will be explained in more detail in the next episode. But it was already partly explained why Armin had suspected her. |
DarkCyclone said: For me Armin is a little too intelligent, I've gone back over episodes every now and again and he works stuff out too fast for comprehension A good example at the top of my mind is when Titan Annie was about to kill Jean, he shouted that she stomped his best friend making her wonder whether she may have killed Eren by mistake, enough to make her hesitate till she realised he was bullshitting. In that scenario he didn't even know if she was looking for Eren, he just assumed she might've been Well I suppose every main character requires some OP characteristic in this series. Armin more than makes up for his lack of physical ability by never being wrong... ever Do realize that when the Female Titan spared him, he already saw its face. Given his recent encounter with Annie (calling her a "nice/good person"), he probably deduced by visual recognition and by the Female Titan's bizarre actions that it was her. When Armin started screaming out about Eren, he took a huge gamble and a smart one at that (I mean who wouldn't? Worst case scenario he was probably going to die anyway). By using Eren's nickname of "suicidal bastard" or "guy who wants to get killed really quickly", not only was he able to deduce that the Female Titan is looking for Eren when it hesitated, but he also deduced that the Female Titan could only be someone in their group friends due to it recognizing Eren's nickname. I wouldn't say it was that far-fetched for him at that point, not to mention how he got another good look at her face the second time. Heck, considering how he wanted to relay a specific message to Erwin and Erwin alone, it wouldn't surprise me if that message had anything to do with the revelation that Annie is in fact the Female Titan. Admittedly as much as people can say that Armin is too OP with his mind-powers, I actually find it refreshing considering how they're the kind of deductions that anyone can make if they have a good eye for detail. That said, what I love about it is that both serves as a strength and as a character flaw for Armin; a flaw that certainly makes him grow a bit more distant than Eren's naivety by becoming more desensitized by his experiences, to the point that he's more likely to make the quick and harsh decisions than him. Darklight0303 said: kolibri said: despaircest said: lol that was NOT annie like, at all wow they completely missed her character Agreed. And still that bitter feeling that the anime doesn't move so much and ready itself for the second season. I would have prefered that the traitor story remains dormant for a while, for a better surprise effect. But I still can't badnote this one, cause as ever, the art style and the "staging" were great. Except Isayama himself insisted they do it like that. So they didn't ruin anything Yup, straight from the guy himself: |
ronriSep 19, 2013 4:48 PM
Pipoko said: His plan this episode went down the drain because he didn't notice Annie's ring. He's great, but there's still room for some improvement. You see that next episode, too. It's the same as Mikasa's strength compared to Levi's. There are occurences even the most clever human beings wouldn't be able to take account for. Her ring was one of them. Calculating the possibility of a hidden blade within someone's jewellery would be even more unrealistic than anything he's worked out so far. Not that he could do anything about it anyway. Any question on why she put on her ring would raise more suspicion And yeah there's always room for improvement at a young age, just can't help but notice he's thinking on a level lightyears ahead of his own comrades and figuring shit out that's traditionally knowledge to viewers only at first @ronri I suppose it was a no lose situation. Him figuring out it's Annie doesn't surprise me though, figuring she may be after Eren shortly after their first encounter and using that assumption to come up with a decoy... which worked. A bit surprising, yeah. I was unaware he used a nickname at that moment though. I thought he was just giving a vague description of someone that happened to fit Eren's profile. Either way it worked out the same. He had a plan, it worked out, the only case his plan didn't work was Annie and her countermeasure with that ring |
almlima said: Can anybody explain me how they found out she was the female titan? I didn't get, probably bad subtitles and stuff. (didnt watch in english) |
skittle316 said: almlima said: Can anybody explain me how they found out she was the female titan? I didn't get, probably bad subtitles and stuff. (didnt watch in english) Eh? No, that's not it at all. And serious spoilers that don't even relate to the question? Seriously. The next episode will have a flashback covering exactly how they deduced FT's identity. |
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Penulma said: Pipoko said: DarkCyclone said: For me Armin is a little too intelligent, I've gone back over episodes every now and again and he works stuff out too fast for comprehension A good example at the top of my mind is when Titan Annie was about to kill Jean, he shouted that she stomped his best friend making her wonder whether she may have killed Eren by mistake, enough to make her hesitate till she realised he was bullshitting. In that scenario he didn't even know if she was looking for Eren, he just assumed she might've been Well I suppose every main character requires some OP characteristic in this series. Armin more than makes up for his lack of physical ability by never being wrong... ever His plan this episode went down the drain because he didn't notice Annie's ring. He's great, but there's still room for some improvement. You see that next episode, too. It's the same as Mikasa's strength compared to Levi's. Erwin's smarter I think, but sometimes he needs a hand with things. I can't help but laugh at this.. are you a manga reader |
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| About how Armin knew Annie's identity, I'm going to quote a very highly-rated foreign movie title about a detective discovering the truth through the most simple of methods: 'The Secret In Their Eyes ' Armin recognized her when looking into her eyes close-up. He'd already suspected her over Marco's gear, so when a female titan with Annie's eyes and hair colour spared him, his suspicions became certain. No author-via-character arsepull there. I do agree that Armin is shown to be a little too sharp compared to those around him, though. He's so weak/useless physically that his IQ comes across as fake at times--like he figures things out only because the author has them figured. Just one of those things. |
| Armin's deductive skills reminds me so much of L from Death Note. |
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Darklight0303 said: kolibri said: despaircest said: lol that was NOT annie like, at all wow they completely missed her character Agreed. And still that bitter feeling that the anime doesn't move so much and ready itself for the second season. I would have prefered that the traitor story remains dormant for a while, for a better surprise effect. But I still can't badnote this one, cause as ever, the art style and the "staging" were great. Except Isayama himself insisted they do it like that. So they didn't ruin anything I wouldn't have used the term 'ruined' myself, I find it a bit heavy compared to what happened, but, even though Isayama want her to be like that, I'm still disappointed in the way the character was driven in that segment. I think they really hurt the picture I had of this character (which apparently, is not mine only) not in a good way, even though it's according to Isayama plans. |
| dat Annie's face. Also, I have this feeling that the S1 will end with a big big big cliffhanger. |
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| I swear if they make an original ending I would turn into a Titan myself and smash the bejesus out of everyone. However the chances of an original ending is as good as my chances to turning into a Titan: 0.0%. |
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emeraldrosary said: Does Annie have a thing for Armin? I don't know, I just get that feeling, because she's always worried about if she's a "good" person to him, but she doesn't care if others think she is "good" or not. From my analysis, I just think Annie is sick of all the idiots and "bad" people running the military but is on the fence when it comes to taking action which is made apparent when she mentions Eren as "that idiot" and how he has courage and standards. So I think she just sees Armin as kind of a naive "good person" so she interacts with him differently which is completely obvious because she didn't kill him out in the field when she was all Titan'd out, AND she decides to help him against her better judgement in this last episode. I'm getting really sick of these cliffhanger endings. I really should have just read the Manga before this but I just CAN'T stop watching this show. I totally knew the FT was Annie though, that psychotic gleam in the Female Titan's eye was just too akin to a look i saw in her eye in one of the earlier episodes when they were all like 1st-3rd year trainees in the military doing hand to hand combat training. |
Trebel said: emeraldrosary said: Does Annie have a thing for Armin? I don't know, I just get that feeling, because she's always worried about if she's a "good" person to him, but she doesn't care if others think she is "good" or not. From my analysis, I just think Annie is sick of all the idiots and "bad" people running the military but is on the fence when it comes to taking action which is made apparent when she mentions Eren as "that idiot" and how he has courage and standards. So I think she just sees Armin as kind of a naive "good person" so she interacts with him differently which is completely obvious because she didn't kill him out in the field when she was all Titan'd out, AND she decides to help him against her better judgement in this last episode. I'm getting really sick of these cliffhanger endings. I really should have just read the Manga before this but I just CAN'T stop watching this show. I totally knew the FT was Annie though, that psychotic gleam in the Female Titan's eye was just too akin to a look i saw in her eye in one of the earlier episodes when they were all like 1st-3rd year trainees in the military doing hand to hand combat training. You will love the manga then, 3 quarters of an episodes worth of content a month, always ending on a cliffhanger... |
MikasaxEren said: You will love the manga then, 3 quarters of an episodes worth of content a month, always ending on a cliffhanger... Really?... Sounds... Awesome... Is the manga still an on-going series or have they already completed the manga? If so, I'm gonna go manga shopping. Or wait... is it even in english yet? I'm learning Japanese but I haven't even gotten to Kanji yet so reading it in japanese is OUT of the question. |
Trebel said: MikasaxEren said: You will love the manga then, 3 quarters of an episodes worth of content a month, always ending on a cliffhanger... Really?... Sounds... Awesome... Is the manga still an on-going series or have they already completed the manga? If so, I'm gonna go manga shopping. Or wait... is it even in english yet? I'm learning Japanese but I haven't even gotten to Kanji yet so reading it in japanese is OUT of the question. Ongoing. About halfway to finished according to Hajime Isayama. Crazy shit is happening but Isayama's really holding back the answers. At least we get more crazy shit though. Still want answers!!! Anime only folks there? Less than two weeks before you all jump to the manga... and suffer with us. |
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| So, I'm reading the Manga, and I'm trying to I mean, And I don't like Hope it's done better in the Anime. Also, I prefer Annie's reveal in the Anime. Almost up to date, then I'll join the suffering. |
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Diranko said: So, I'm reading the Manga, and I'm trying to I mean, And I don't like Hope it's done better in the Anime. Also, I prefer Annie's reveal in the Anime. Almost up to date, then I'll join the suffering. Manga spoilers to anime only viewers! Perhaps this belongs in the manga sub forum? Also, episode 24 coming. |
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| Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but Also, Lastly, This doesn't belong in the Manga sub-forum, since I am actually wanting to talk about episode 23, as well as the following episodes. This regards the chapter after the events of episode 23. |
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| While they don't have filler episodes, they do have filler moments for sure. Like I said, they are interesting. Such as Marlow's words towards those guys. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about Jean. In the Anime, I think he's a baddass. In the Manga, he feels like a complete dick to me. He also seems a lot more harsh towards Eren, too. Also, I really would like to see the last bit. |
DirankoSep 21, 2013 8:11 AM
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| I never saw him as a bitch in the Anime. The following isn't a spoiler, but something I thought after reading the Manga and so. |
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| @Xinception: I'll create a top most obvious "titan shifters" 1.Bald Titan 2. Female Titan(arguably) 3. Armored Titan.(you can place him 2nd if you want they are both equally obvious) When I first saw the bald titan and the armored one I really didnt knew that human can shift in titans so.....after finding that out suddenly it struck me the resemblance of 2 characters with the bald titan and the armored one...... But some people got eye disease and cant see the obvious , what's in theyr face. I point a rifle at someone "OH , is it a gun?" . Do you see my point? It is a weapon but it isnt a gun. That's how some people see the obvious..... |
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| You might want to spoiler that, since there aren't many toothpicks in SnK, and it is fairly obvious once you know. As for the first and third, I still have trouble believing. As for second, I always knew it deep down, but didn't want to. It was far too obvious in the Manga, considering she has Annie's look in her eyes as the female Titan. Also, a spoiler, but not in a tag. The Armoured Titan is Usain Bolt. |
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Ramkec said: Annie looks fine from the front, but looking at her from the sides, dat nose doe lmao. Still nice episode, they set up a pretty nice ambush, Armin planning shit like Aizen. LMAO for real.....I always thought damn I'd smash annie since she's all badass like mikasa but daammn that nose got me thinking |
Amon-Raw said: Comparing Armin to Aizen. . .Ramkec said: Annie looks fine from the front, but looking at her from the sides, dat nose doe lmao. Still nice episode, they set up a pretty nice ambush, Armin planning shit like Aizen. LMAO for real.....I always thought damn I'd smash annie since she's all badass like mikasa but daammn that nose got me thinking That's some funny shit right there. Now that I think about Bleach, Levi is incredibly similar to Hitsugiya. |
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| To the discussion with Diranko (which I strongly believe should go to the manga sub forum, but what ever). Titan MMA wasn't really what I expected TBH. But now I wouldn't have them fight any other way. How else do you want titans to fight? Whip out giant swords or something? I wouldn't take the series seriously anymore. Oh and... Still think this should go manga section. |
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| Why should it go to the Manga section? Anyway, this thread is likely done for now. Eren Vs. Annie didn't have any of MMA stuff. I actually think using weapons would be logical. Also, |
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Diranko said: Why should it go to the Manga section? Anyway, this thread is likely done for now. Eren Vs. Annie didn't have any of MMA stuff. I actually think using weapons would be logical. Also, Refer to my FT vs Eren Titan fight technical breakdown, somewhere in this subforum. The amount of technical intricacies gave me a nerdgasm. Armed titans make no sense. Where would a titan shifter carry say, a huge ass knife when they're humans? I think titans are weapons to begin with. |
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| military police sux but more importantly... YOOOOOOOO THAT WAS SO INTENSE AND EXCITING AND SPINE TINGLING FRICK IM SO PUMPED AND FREAKED OUT RIGHT NOW SHITS GONNA HAPPEN SO MUCH SHIT |
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| Fuck, so it really was Annie afterall. Was hoping that maybe, just maybe that it wouldn't be her but welp. I liked that laugh though. |
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| Annie blushing and laughing made my day. |
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| Well, I mean I was thinking they would spend the whole episode just to arrive at the capital, but not even, haha. Still, that was pretty smart, though Annie had another move. |
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| So it's ending with the face-off at Stohess, huh. It took the anime a long time to finally reveal the identity of the Female Titan: Annie Leonhart, the 4th highest ranked among their trainee batch. Although it could be for pacing purposes so it could end in either a natural stopping point or a massive cliffhanger for a season 2. Either way we'll see for the last two episodes. I could imagine them ending this arc within that time frame. That face and that laugh, though. Nothing too different or jarring, so this part is adapted well enough, I'd say. |
Stark700 said: EasyGo-er said: Just asking, where does this end in the manga? Annie revealed as the FT. Bunch of people near her got obliterated. Yep but the real shit happens at the end of this Annie saga, so sad we won't get beyond this point for some time, but the manga needs to move further along. |
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| Knowing beforehand that she's the FT, this was still pretty much one of the most interesting episodes for me. Especially the moment when she refused to go underground.. Why did this shit become good just before the season end? |
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| Amazing episode it is. I wasn't surprised that Annie is FT, in fact I figured that out first time she appeared in titan form, it was quite obvious imo. Not sure how everything is shown in manga, but in anime it's rather hard to miss that look on her face and her eyes.. god. |
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