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Aug 27, 2012 6:28 AM

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Chitanda evolved...
Aug 27, 2012 7:06 AM

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5 minutes of babystep discussion to conclude that it was probably about a crime.

Then they contemplate back and forth because of a holey theory. For the rest of the episode. Until Oreki manages to tie the available strings together into one sufficient theory. Because he read the news posters that morning.

It would be a complete dead end if he hadn't read that news poster.

"I wonder what that announcement was about..."
"I remember reading about counterfeit 10,000 yen bills in the news this morning. Maybe a high school student used a bill like that and got in trouble."
Aug 27, 2012 7:57 AM

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Gawd, I wish I had an intellect like Oreki, he would seriously make a splendid detective~ Chitanda's pouting and Oreki's nonchalant acting were just moé<3

And as much as it would be nice to see, the only situation those two would ever be able to kiss in now would only be an accidental one =/

I reallly hope we get to see Hotarou nee-chan's face before it ends, that mystery is still killing me Dx
Aug 27, 2012 8:15 AM
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Too much talking~~ got most of the info but i think i need ti rewatch it for the details~~~ :3 Great ep!! ~ :3
Aug 27, 2012 8:31 AM

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Naratchi said:

Then they contemplate back and forth because of a holey theory. For the rest of the episode. Until Oreki manages to tie the available strings together into one sufficient theory. Because he read the news posters that morning.


Well you need to be aware of your surroundings i guess.. but yea the whole theory was a bit bizarre.

Asakurabaka said:

I really hope we get to see Hotarou nee-chan's face before it ends, that mystery is still killing me Dx

i want to see that face too, ahaha!



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Just 5 minutes and already loving the episode. ''Lets take the Challenge. '' hehehe love their talk ^.^

AHaha i want to find out where does ''to smell something fishy'' come from. (since im working on similar project on english idioms xD)

hahaha Chitanda got so close to Oreki when she got mad. Rawr Rawr Rawr

After rewatching it makes a lot more sense
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Aug 27, 2012 8:45 AM
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I think the source of the counterfeit money is really not from the lending situation Oreki explained.
but what really happened on the 31st is that when the student X went home after school ...
Student X was forced to use the counterfeit bill By the 22 y/o gangster.
The police found out and student X pointed out the real culprit :D

What do you guys think??
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Aug 27, 2012 9:06 AM
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Aah, that was so cute. :D Plus we got an interesting case to solve. Can't possibly ask for more.
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Aug 27, 2012 9:20 AM

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daniel955 said:
I think the source of the counterfeit money is really not from the lending situation Oreki explained.
but what really happened on the 31st is that when the student X went home after school ...
Student X was forced to use the counterfeit bill By the 22 y/o gangster.
The police found out and student X pointed out the real culprit :D

What do you guys think??


Not sure if its was forced.
Maybe student X didnt know he was using fake money until the news came out that there were fake bills around ? sadly at the beginning of episode its not said when the news came out that there's fake money around so i cant be sure xD
And when he found out he felt guilty of using fake money or felt responsible of letting the store know the money was fake?

It could have been force but it could have depended on the relationship X and Y had. If they were friends, i doubt he had written the letter unless he was a very very honest person.

If forced then when found out, it could have been X fault and they had arrested him, resulting Y to be found out too, so they would have take such a risk ? did they even want to be found out to begin with? xD

haha just guessing :P your theory can be true (because why would have high school student went to elementary school store, maybe really it was force, or maybe cause of a younger sibling or something ) just added my opinion
LylaazAug 27, 2012 9:31 AM
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The ending song was Bach's 'Air on G String' (by far my favourite classical piece) and it is also the same song that was heard at the end of episode 7.
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Aug 27, 2012 10:10 AM

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Oreki, sugoi!

5/5
Aug 27, 2012 10:34 AM

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This episode was just so cute and amazing with the Oreki and Chitanda :3
Next episode looks interesting!
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Aug 27, 2012 10:42 AM

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Oreki's smile. HNNGG. ;)

The part where Chitanda gets so close to his face looks like she kissed him, if we were to see that scene from a specific angle. LOL

Wow, they're practically canon...Almost. :D

3/5 because I didn't particularly love it...
Aug 27, 2012 11:38 AM

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Great directing here. As for the case itself, I love speculating myself, so it was near perfect for me. It felt a bit faulty though, in how they could go on without doubting their theory. I was just waiting for a "someone forgot something" to prove Houtarou wrong.
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Aug 27, 2012 12:09 PM

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If such a serious incident happen, police cannnot have a school call a suspect by the school PA system.
Police must put a suspect in a lineup.
The Japanese police isn't such a fool.
Aug 27, 2012 1:26 PM
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Satoshi? Mayaka? Where you at?

I already forgot what Chitanda said near the end, but I know it was ^_^

Episode 21 needs to be a timeskip so our ships can become cannon.

5/5
Aug 27, 2012 3:16 PM

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He does have a talent. His own game in which he tried to write it off as luck proved that. A whole episode just for a fake mystery with Houtarou and Chitanda, yet I really enjoyed it. Just the whole theory and the expressions and emotions it unleashed (especially with Chitanda) were great!

Looks like we'll see more Chitanda and Houtarou together next episode. I'd like to see more of the others too though...

Aug 27, 2012 3:35 PM

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It's amazing to think we spent an entire episode in one room.
Aug 27, 2012 3:42 PM

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Was a great deduction by Houtaoru..

And looks like Chitanda is finally getting aware of Houtarou as well.. ;)
Aug 27, 2012 4:31 PM

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Chitanda is just so cute.

This episode was all ChitandaxHoutarou and it looks like next episode is going to be the same thing. Yeahhh more time for them to develop and more chances for them to end up in awkward situations, like getting their faces near each other. :d
Aug 27, 2012 5:58 PM

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This was a boring episode ._., 30 mins of my life dropped. I read a lot of comments about ChitandaxOreki and I think they will never kiss ._.. This anime isn't romantic.
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Aug 27, 2012 6:45 PM

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How unrealistic. Come on, teenagers don't read newspapers!
Aug 27, 2012 7:03 PM

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Wow. I love how they went through all that and ended up correct in the end lol.

This ep was a great Eru x Oreki bonding moment. I really hope they get together in the end along with Miyaka + Satsohi.
Aug 27, 2012 9:42 PM

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The mysteries in this never get old

Aug 27, 2012 10:21 PM

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Either I got real bored or Hyouka started to get interesting...
Though tbh, the counterfeit bill never crossed my mind ._.
Aug 27, 2012 11:19 PM

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Chizuchan said:
This was a boring episode ._., 30 mins of my life dropped. I read a lot of comments about ChitandaxOreki and I think they will never kiss ._.. This anime isn't romantic.

exactly my thoughts. want some kissing, get some doujinshi.

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Either I got real bored or Hyouka started to get interesting...
Though tbh, the counterfeit bill never crossed my mind ._.

hyouka is boring almost from the starters, but this ep was a masterpiece at how to bore a watcher.
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Aug 28, 2012 12:22 AM

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Whoa, that was amazing. The theories keep getting more and more intricate.
Aug 28, 2012 1:56 AM

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What? Boring? No. Only 2 people for a whole episode and I didn't feel boring at all. Rather, 1 episode is not enough for Oreki x Chitanda. I demand moar.
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Aug 28, 2012 2:21 AM

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Dat detective skills. We get a festival, next week <3. Newspaper was related to the counterfeiting bills, so he was partially correct, interesting. Great ep!
Aug 28, 2012 3:31 AM

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This felt... filler-ish.
Aug 28, 2012 3:44 AM

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OREKI READS THE NEWSPAPER?! zomg winner. Sad that there is no ending especially on this one episode that i wanted to hear it LOL.

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Aug 28, 2012 3:53 AM

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Just 2 eps left :( and it dosent look like the kind of show that would have a 2nd season

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Aug 28, 2012 5:45 AM

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Some random thoughts by Houtarou but it turned out to be true. WTF did I just watched lol.
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Aug 28, 2012 6:11 AM

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Great Episode! Really interesting their theory that eventually proved right.

and Oreki... kiss her damn gosh.
Aug 28, 2012 11:06 AM

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Hmm... perhaps the romance aspect might not be unreachable after seeing this episode and the preview. I'd definitely like to see Oreki and Chitanda pair up by the end of the anime. Only 2 more episodes and there are glimpses of yutaka. Make it happen.

Also, the Chitanda moe was great. I haven't felt HNNNNGGG- from her since the first few episodes.

Despite that, it was a boring episode. The ending doesn't look promising, and I almost fell asleep watching.
Aug 28, 2012 11:19 AM
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With this development, I hope we get the ending that we wanted even if it's a mystery genre of anime.
Aug 28, 2012 1:46 PM

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Kyoani is killing me... literally. Chitanda pouting is just... omg...
And yes, some development in the romance department! Couldn't expect less from it, but to be frank, I'm not expecting more either.
For those waiting for a sequel, I don't think that's going to happen either. I didn't see Hyouka in the top10 BluRay sells. It is possible to make one though. It could go on like this even with their children if I'm to be allowed to see that far in the future xD
Aug 28, 2012 2:59 PM

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mixordia said:
JUST KISS HER ALREADY OREKI!

DON'T!

It'll cause me to drop this anime to a 7 or something like that!

My word, why do you all like romance?!
Aug 28, 2012 3:05 PM
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testyal1 said:
My word, why do you all like romance?!
Some of us live vicariously through these shows ;)

Actually, pretty much from the first time Oreki laid eyes on Chitanda I dropped the idea that this was a "mystery" show and instead saw it as a show about four kids and their growing relationships. That's why I've never had much to say about the "mysteries" - they were just backgrounds for the real stories.
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Wow, good job Oreki. It was a whole episode of them just making deductions and it went by pretty fast. This show seems to have hit it's stride, too bad it's almost over though
Aug 28, 2012 3:55 PM

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Cratex said:
testyal1 said:
My word, why do you all like romance?!
Some of us live vicariously through these shows ;)

Actually, pretty much from the first time Oreki laid eyes on Chitanda I dropped the idea that this was a "mystery" show and instead saw it as a show about four kids and their growing relationships. That's why I've never had much to say about the "mysteries" - they were just backgrounds for the real stories.


I have a feeling you, and all those equal-minded, will be disappointed by the time this anime finishes. I, by no means, dislike the romance genre or romantic aspects but it seems unlikely that they'd crowbar all that romantic development in the last two episodes after scattering subtle and seemingly ambiguous hints here and there these past 19 episodes.

Although I would take off my hat to the diligent person on the writing team who manages to seamlessly weave it into the plot at this late stage... I would be pleasantly surprised but I'm just not holding my breath for it.
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Aug 28, 2012 4:17 PM

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Houtarou was amazing in this episode. His character has changed so much. It was nice to see him kind of joking around (and those expressions ah).

Chitanda was especially annoying in this episode though. She started out fine, but it only went downhill from there. Her outburst was surprising, as I didn't expect her to get so... into it. Calm down, girl. Houtarou isn't your personal problem solver, and he's allowed to refuse or make mistakes. I think she's a bit too... controlling. She also needs to learn the meaning of 'personal space.'

Also, where were Satoshi and Mayaka? At least mention them? And how did Houtarou and Chitanda end up sitting alone like that? There was no lead-up or explanation or anything.

This episode was pretty slow-paced considering how little information was in it. I mean, sure it was interesting as always to follow Houtarou's thought process, but overall the episode was pretty boring. Perhaps 15 minutes of the 'game' would have been fine, but I think that dedicating the whole episode (and one so near the end at that) to it was a mistake.

There was also very little development in this episode as well, character or relationship-wise (it was the same stuff as always, Houtarou denying his intelligence, getting flustered over Chitanda's proximity, etc. - the only difference I saw was a bit of a joking attitude) so I'm not really sure what the purpose of this episode was.
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solofra said:
I have a feeling you, and all those equal-minded, will be disappointed by the time this anime finishes.
No, not at all. If that was the last episode I already know Oreki is doomed. Everything else is just added flavor.
Aug 29, 2012 5:19 AM
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I don't think Oreki and Chitanda will kiss or go to that extent by the end of the series.

Most probably they will just start to accept their feelings for each other,and they will come to the realisation that they actually like each other enough to be more than just friends.

The furthest they will go is hold hands while watching the fireworks together or something subtle.
Aug 29, 2012 5:59 AM

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Light hearted episode full of Chitanda X Oreki moments. Expected whatever Oreki to say to really be the truth, and it sure did.

Well, looks like its the typical New Year's Festival episode next. Doubt Oreki and Chitanda would really become a couple, but rather just realise the feelings they have for each other.

2 more episodes to go. Will be sad when this ends...
Aug 30, 2012 12:24 AM
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What a hellishly teasing episode

*insert "So Close" and/or "Now Kiss" meme here*

Anywayz, another relatively pointless mystery. But dang, it was a good episode. How the heck did he get it right just from that announcement? Completely impractical that it would actually happen that way IRL, but wow. So much Oreki X Chitanda lately.....and i'm good with this. Next episode looks like it will be that way too.
Aug 30, 2012 12:56 AM

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Oreki ftw
Aug 30, 2012 7:49 AM

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mixordia said:
JUST KISS HER ALREADY OREKI!

What the heck, there's a table right there, sweep it clear and ...

As for the episode, it was golden!

As for all of these comments:
MM-Rosiie said:
The counterfeit bill was a bit of a longshot, but it also made sense.

Damn Oreki, your expressions. :D

Post-Josh said:
Mildly interesting, but this episode gave unrealistic deduction a whole new meaning. Obvious fan-service tease is obvious, blah. Hopefully KyoAni won't flop their fall show.

Kurogashi said:
They're really shipping that OrekixChitanda.
I still find his conclusion to this mystery a bit off. I mean, couldn't the kid be called in because he could be a witness to a car crash or some crime? I mean he made a good guess but too little evidence to come up with a full proof deduction.


etc...

If the deduction Oreki made was so far fetched, how do you explain that I figured it out about two minutes before he came up with the solution?

Think about it...
1) They are calling for a student that shopped there that day. This means they don't know exactly who it was. Most likely, the clerk at the store remembered that a student wearing that uniform was the person that used a 10,000 yen note in the store that day. Since the bill itself and a student from the high school shopping in a store more frequently used by elementary students and their families are rare events, it makes sense that the clerk would remember this, but not know the identity of the student.

2) It can't really be a blatant crime that they are looking for the student for, or they would never go to the office with such a vague request. If they had been shoplifting or something, unless they had actually confessed in an anonymous note like they were positing earlier in the episode, which is an outrageous suggestion, they would never show up and admit that they were the culprit, unless they are stupid!

3) The missing information that there had been counterfeit 10,000 yen notes being passed was all that was necessary to cement the solution, but I had already figured out that it was about counterfeit money before Oreki mentioned it.

The only part about the deduction that I doubt is that Oreki never commented that the student may not have even known that they passed the counterfeit bill. If they were aware of the counterfeit, they would either have not used it or wouldn't go to the office when called.

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omg
the first thing i've seen today after i got up was that picture

then right away i watched this episode
damn u photoshopers. . .

That is a very nice job! I applaud the sentiment behind it! :P

The sexual tension in this episode was so thick you could cut it with a knife! I love the way they demonstrate the characters' feelings for each other without any of them ever saying anything about it! Expertly done! :)

solofra said:
Cratex said:
testyal1 said:
My word, why do you all like romance?!
Some of us live vicariously through these shows ;)

Actually, pretty much from the first time Oreki laid eyes on Chitanda I dropped the idea that this was a "mystery" show and instead saw it as a show about four kids and their growing relationships. That's why I've never had much to say about the "mysteries" - they were just backgrounds for the real stories.


I have a feeling you, and all those equal-minded, will be disappointed by the time this anime finishes. I, by no means, dislike the romance genre or romantic aspects but it seems unlikely that they'd crowbar all that romantic development in the last two episodes after scattering subtle and seemingly ambiguous hints here and there these past 19 episodes.

Although I would take off my hat to the diligent person on the writing team who manages to seamlessly weave it into the plot at this late stage... I would be pleasantly surprised but I'm just not holding my breath for it.

@testyal1 - Because we are human!

The man managing the script in this show is the author of the Full Metal Panic! light novel series. He is a master at implied relationship development and the "obvious couple that just doesn't get it" style of romantic comedy. (I'll use spoilers for those that haven't seen FMP! TSR)
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zensunni said:
@testyal1 - Because we are human!

Good point. I am a stone-hearted emotionless beast after all.

But still.

It ruins stuff.
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