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| Daaaaang. Naked Gil. Well, fuck, it's over. What am I going to do on Saturday mornings now? I will go read up more of the Fate stuff now on the wikia because some stuff is hard to understand. It was so sad how Kiritsugu never saw Ilya again... His own flesh and blood. I guess it was good how he adopted Shiro though. Did the Grail cause all that destruction and the fire thing? That part was a bit confusing. |
NNick said: So Ilya Will Dies in Fate Stay Night ? |
| Well, that was a nice ending, and serves as a good lead-up to F/SN for those not exposed to it yet. Having read the F/SN VN, the ending was pretty much exactly as expected. Though I expect the results and effects of the war to be considerably confusing for people not as familiar, and I felt it wasn't tied up as well on that end. Overall, the series was good but disappointing. The characters were easily the weakest aspect. As for the story, the Fate universe laid a good foundation, though I question their direction in some of the episodes. Nonetheless, it was an enjoyable watch. |
dankickyou said: mistress_kisara said: What a finale!! That was a great adaptation ufotable, it wasn't perfect but it was one of the best VN anime adaptation I've seen! >VN heh? You mean LN Lol, sorry FSN was the VN and FZ was the LN :P |
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Thess said: ssjokg said: stAtic91 said: lol. So that's how he does it.Those Sparkles!!! Kirei still ignores him. LIFE IS HARD FOR GILGAMESH. Hey, but there's some progress. He cared enough to get him something for cover. Gilgamesh may manage to get some of his attention in the next 10 years... at which point Kirei will ignore him for trollz. *and totally saving that fanart* |
| Amazing series, and a great ending, granted it was bitter, but that was a given from the get go Sakura kind of pissed me off, i mean seriously thats what you say to the guy who died trying to save you T_T, its like any sense of feeling already died off, so in a sense even if he succeeded one may question if he would have saved her since it seems the Sakura he cared for is long gone. I once again tho felt bad for Kiritsugu, lots of people give him hate, and while his dream was naive and way to idealistic to be ever be true, that doesn't make it a bad one, His last talk with Shirou was a bit symbolic one what it means to a be hero, or at least thats how i took it, it was a good way to end it, by Shirou promising to fulfill his wish, and light shinning on Saber once again. |
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| Plz dont hate Sakura.It's not her fault she became like this. |
Thess said: HMMMMMMMMMM! :D Indeed I heard of much of that and certainly it's a nice debate to start after this series as of this episode to move on into the Fan Art and the HF world. However the realization and planning like many say may take over 3 years or more to do so. Less you want a DEEN adaptation of it that is. Careful planning of this arc and taking into account all mistakes done in this series no matter how small and of DEEN should be primordial.Yumekichi11 said: WTF IS THIS? Sakura was so brainwashed I am to understand that she never realized being abused by worms is SICK? WTF is that? So Zouten in thee end had total brain control over Sakura since his worms were under his control and the illusion was just that. After reading this I need some pic of stuff that shows Zouten dying. Anyone PM me this would give me something to look at it while being relived. THIS IS SICK! Zouten is hated more now by me since I know how much of a shit he is in controlling Sakura herself. The death of Kariya emotionally killed her. After that, no matter what Zouken did to her, she wouldn't respond. It was frustrating for him because he liked to torture her not just with rape, but also poisoning her food, experimenting by adding pieces to her soul (like the uh GRAIL). Only after meeting Shirou, Sakura was able to regain her emotions. She was still in control until HF, where he reacts at her romantically and she's at loss because for the first time in 11 years, she is happy and has hope. Enter Zouken to use that crack in her armor to push his control. Really nice fanart: That being said I hope to see HF sometime in the future no matter how much more gross it might get on many levels. If HF can bring me a Zouten death then I shall be happy indeed. |
| Great ending to an Epic show. |
| It was a little sat episode but for the rest is epic.But why Gil was naked ? |
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| Reminds Me Something... >Beginning Of Fate/Stay Night Episode 1. >Gilgamesh VS Saber On The 4th Holy Grail War? Now Where The Heck Is Saber VS Gilgamesh Fight Here? Oh Well... Nevermind That Confusing Part. 10/10 I Never Knew Fate/Zero(Or Ufotable) Will Put A "Fanservice" For "Us"... stAtic91 said: lol. ROFLMAO! You Won 1000 Internets! :D |
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I guess that I can finally post this: Ten years after the events of Fate/Zero, by the time of Fate/Stay Night, Waver takes over Kayneth's position of El-Melloi and becomes one of Rin's instructors at the Clock Tower. |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Change, change the form of man. Free the might from fleshy mire. Boil the blood in heart of fire. Gone, gone the form of man. Rise the demon, Etrigan! |
| Great series with some minor flaws. Ending was handled nicely though, and for that I give this anime a 9/10. Looking forward to see the Blueray DVD for the Saber vs Berserker fight |
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| 8/10 Pacing issues and,inconsistent quality of the episodes, but overall an enjoyable experience. |
| So sad. Saber. Kiritsugu. Ilya. Rin. Sakura. Aoi. Kariya. Lancelot. Irisviel. Maiya. Rider. Waver. Maybe Kayneth and Sola and how can we forget Lancer,heck even Tokiomi. Only Caster and Archer teams were horrible.Such a sad ending. SO sad. for SO MANY CHARACTERS. a heartwrenching 9/10. i hate sad endings. even though i knew it was coming. |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
| For those who were confused by Fate/Stay Night anime: No, nowhere in Stay Night do they show you Saber and Archer duking it out. The only moment Saber mentions she fought Archer was when she says Archer proposed to her (which is what happened last episode) and she sayd she did exactly what she did in the Fate/Zero episode, Try to strike him. Most people believed that was an implication they duked it out but no, she only says she tried to strike him which is, more or less what happenned. |
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PleinairUsagiDrp said: Reminds Me Something... >Beginning Of Fate/Stay Night Episode 1. >Gilgamesh VS Saber On The 4th Holy Grail War? Now Where The Heck Is Saber VS Gilgamesh Fight Here? There was no fight in the novels, it was just Gilgamesh shooting swords to her leg. She was barely alive after the beating Lancelot gave her. Saber's vague fight was "trying to not die on spot". |
ThessJun 23, 2012 1:30 PM
| Sigh, there're rarely shows this good nowadays, that makes this one ending all the sadder. I loved the ending this time. And all the premonition about Shirou and hero stuff. If only ufotable made Unlimited blade works, my life would be complete...sigh...pitty it's already made and there're no chances of that happening. Pity, such a pity. Well, there goes that, and I'm oh so going to miss it. Hopefully next ufotable work is just as good as this one. 8/10 |
| That was quite an adventure.. I still don't know how to feel about the finale. |
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NNick said: Any Idea What To Watch Next? Anything As Good As These Series? Damn, I feel So Bad For Kiritsugu ... I Bet He Also Dies In Fate Stay... Poor Bastard, He Should Have Choosed To Use Grail ... I'm Drinking Beer For You Kiri! Depends on the genre. As for action, ppl might say Fate may be the best. If you ask me, it's not as good as bleach, naruto, or one piece in the action genre. |
| great show so many blank where filled and explain 10/10 |
| Where to start... ? We should be able to rate 1st season and 2nd as one, even though I give this anime 10/10. Perfect prequel of Fate Stay Night with tremendous graphic style and outstanding music and animation. |
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| This episode somehow redeemed itself. Still they didn't play everpresent feeling? That song was drilled into every Kiritsugu flashback scenes. And where's that dialogue between Gil and Avenger? But I like how they played To the Beginning instead of the horrible ending theme during the credits. Time to wait for BD. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
NNick said: Any Idea What To Watch Next? Anything As Good As These Series? Damn, I feel So Bad For Kiritsugu ... I Bet He Also Dies In Fate Stay... Poor Bastard, He Should Have Choosed To Use Grail ... I'm Drinking Beer For You Kiri! Kiritsugu died five years after the fourth grail war, from Grail Curse AIDS. Five years before FSN. |
| I have a lot of thoughts on this final episode of the second season. I'm glad I watched both seasons because at first I thought it would be something similar to Fate/Stay Night, which I didn't like how it went, and it turned out to be similar but now I got the basic idea what Fate/Stay Night was all about, though i have to say I have to re-watch it because I can't remember how it ended. Only remember that Gilgamesh was there but I didn't even know he was originally from the previous war, bound to Kotomine by a contract or even that he was an Archer class. And never would have guessed that Sakura and Rin were sisters either or that Kiritsugu is Illya's father. I didn't even think that Sakura would play such an important role in the series at all. I thought of her as a minor character. Kariya in the end didn't kill Rin's mother, though leaving her mentally unstable. I first thought that he died the previous episode when Berserker lost to Saber but instead he got consumed by the bugs in the basement of the Matou mansion with emotionless Sakura watching him get swallowed. Kotomine seemed like he was enjoying the sight of the little Rin crying for her father with the that dagger in hands. The same dagger he killed her father with. It was really sad watching Saber cry T.T Overall rating of the whole series, for I gave the first part 10/10, for the beautiful but sad Opening and Ending, the fights, the revelations it gave it in order to understand the story better and maybe because in the first part everyone was alive and well and in the second part they started dying out one by one, starting off with Caster, who I didn't favor at all and his sadistic partner Ryuunosuke, and later Lancer with the help of Kiritsugu's cruel plan to kill both Master and Servant. Then for second part I give it 9/10 for the fights, the Opening and the Ending, the story itself at some point. Overall rating: 10/10 Though I hate how it ended for Irisviel. She never got to be with Kiritsugu, holding hands, like in that Ending. <3 you Iri <3 |
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| Ah..such a nice ending there. Good to see young Shiro there. |
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NNick said: Any Idea What To Watch Next? Anything As Good As These Series? Kara no Kyoukai. Same studio, same setting, and a great series that comes together beautifully at the end. I'd say Fate/Stay Night since it's the obvious choice if you liked Fate/Zero, but I wouldn't recommend the anime, only the VN. Like Kara no Kyoukai it's something you really need to see as a whole to appreciate fully and the anime is just a mediocre adaptation of only 1/3 of the content. |
Perloo said: Also, the EInzberns where the ones that came up with the idea for the ritual because they apparently posessed the Holy Grail at some point in time. They approached the Matou (originally called the Makiri family) for help in binding the necessary Heroic Spirits, and to ensure they were not betrayed and to have a hidden land where the Association wouldn't bother them they used the Tohsaka's influence over both The Magic Association and The Church.BoredomArrives said: Can anyone explain to me why the Einzberns made grail containers in the first place? Like why them. Each of the three families has a certain role. The Einzberns provide the vessel for the Grail and performed the summoning ritual, Tohsaka's provide the land of Fuyuki and the Matou bind the heroic spirits and created the command seals. Just FYI, this is all explained in the Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel. Blame the anime for never telling you. There's an actual fourth player in the creation of the Holy Grail Wars, a Dead Apostle Ancestor called Zelretch who was the mentor of the head of the Tohsaka family at the time the first Holy Grail ritual was done. The Tohsaka's are actually rumored to be vampires because of this (they aren't)... the fact their house has a huge basement with gothic ornaments doesn't help. |
Leon-GunJun 23, 2012 3:16 PM
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| My final impressions of Fate/Zero. 10/10 |
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NNick said: So Basically, Grail Offered Kiritsugu To Be Reunited With Iri And Ilya, But He Refused It Because That Would Mean To Kill 6 Billion Innocent People, So He Commanded Saber To Destroy The Grain Instead . . . And Thus Gil Won ... Then Kiri Went Insane ... And There Was No Point For Kirei To Kill Him Anymore ... T.T fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu inb4 i have depression. Kirei realized what kind of man he is.I would say that someone who follows the dogma of the christian church and has devoted his life,without any reason at all, to these beliefs is more insane than Kirei would ever be. |
NNick said: Well Fuck This. If Kiritsugu Would Have Known This, Maybe He Would Have Choosed To use The Grail... Eh?Did you understand what the previous ep was all about? Thess said: PleinairUsagiDrp said: Reminds Me Something... >Beginning Of Fate/Stay Night Episode 1. >Gilgamesh VS Saber On The 4th Holy Grail War? Now Where The Heck Is Saber VS Gilgamesh Fight Here? There was no fight in the novels, it was just Gilgamesh shooting swords to her leg. She was barely alive after the beating Lancelot gave her. Yeah....DEEN studio adding random stuff here and there *coughlatexSakuracough*..... |
| Rushed towards the end, but still satisfying. We need Heaven's Feel as next. |
| this last episode wasn't good enough. but overall i loved this anime now ill finally start fate/stay night 9/10 |
NNick said: Yes, I kinda Did, Can't Be Sure, Maybe I Missed Something Again, Please Elaborate. Kiritsugu had to accept the grail on the Einzbern's behalf in order to stop Ilya from becoming the next grail. But accepting the grail would mean the destruction of humanity. Seriously did you watch the last episode? Official list of things that Fate/Zero characters managed to kill or otherwise destroy >Rider Team: - Assassins - 3 chickens - a few bags of rice crackers - part of a library - Caster's atelier >Saber Team: - Caster - Ryuunosuke - Kayneth - Sola-ui - Berserker - Kotomine - Gordius Wheel - the Grail - the Hyatt - a hamburger - a couple packs of cigarettes - a sizable portion of Fuyuki - Mercury-tan - Byakuya's hand - Iri's heterosexuality >Archer Team (version Tokiomi) - 1 Assassin - bottles and bottles of wine - Tokiomi's yard - Tokiomi's dignity - Kariya's bugs >Archer Team (version Kotomine) - Tokiomi - Ionian Hetairoi - Rider - Iri - more wine - Kiritsugu >Berserker Team: - Kariya - Maiya - Ougi - a small tentacle monster - a lamppost - a few of Gil's Noble Phantasms >Assassin Team - Rider's ladle - a tree - a bat >Lancer team - Lancer - Kayneth's finger - Kayneth's love life - the Einzbern castle - Risei - Gae Buidhe - some of Saber's hair >Caster team - many children - Kobayashi >Honorable mentions: - Rin → Ryuunosuke's bracelet - Maker of Gil's pants → some snakes |
BloodRequiemJun 23, 2012 3:57 PM
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Ummm... why not adapt someone as cute as Illya? ._. Ok ufotable.. Go next! Do any of the 3 routes! Though I prefer the main one cuz I have no idea what happened in it. Or you can do all. Gogogo. 9/10, cuz Illya is sad. |
| Really amazing finale. Although, nothing big happened here, it was wrapped up in an amazing yet very realistic ending. I loved about it the most that no one achieved complete happiness (maybe only Gilgamesh). Kirei was obviously upset at Kiritsugu ignoring him, Waver lost his best friend and Kiritsugu lost Illya. I feel very sorry for Rin, imo she had it the worst after the end of the war especially considering she was completely innocent in all of that. Her mom went crazy, she lost her dad, her sister was taken by a mad man, her tutor was just as mad and she has new responsibilities of a head of Tohsaka family. Sakura has it worse but she is completely brainwashed so she doesn't care much. Considering what these two were actually left with, their natures in F/SN feel out of place, at least Rin's for sure. Maybe I just should play/watch someone playing the VN during summer break. Back to the episode, Kirei is definitely going into my top 10 characters. Watching him during every scene was nothing but joy (well, aside from the grin at Rin's crying and Tokiyomi's murder)... I'm messed up. >_> I also LOVED the Gilgamesh scene, I didn't see that coming. :-3 Yay for some hot fanservice. Overall, this was a perfect finale, we got an amazing conclusion to the anime and we also saw what became of the main characters and it wasn't a perfect happy end for anyone (I despise those). About the show, I'm deciding between 9 and 10. I mean, this was definitelly the best anime I saw in a while but it had its mistakes especially pacing during some episodes. Sometimes it went fast, other times it went slow, it was all over the place but in the end it didn't do much harm so I dunno. Also I felt this was better than first season and I gave it 9 but then again, I felt like those 2 episodes of Kiritsugu's flashback killed the pacing for me and the cliffhanger before months long break was awful so normally I would drop to 9 for these stuff... this is confusing. Whatever, I'll rate it 10 to feel good about myself. XD I may have not been able to connect with all the characters, I enjoyed watching some suffer (yeah, I'm messed up, I should feel bad about myself) but this show truly deserves being called a masterpiece so 10/10. EDIT: I seriously lol'd at BloodRequiem's list. XD |
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HikaruIzumi said: Really amazing finale. Although, nothing big happened here, it was wrapped up in an amazing yet very realistic ending. I loved about it the most that no one achieved complete happiness (maybe only Gilgamesh). Kirei was obviously upset at Kiritsugu ignoring him, Waver lost his best friend and Kiritsugu lost Illya. I feel very sorry for Rin, imo she had it the worst after the end of the war especially considering she was completely innocent in all of that. Her mom went crazy, she lost her dad, her sister was taken by a mad man, her tutor was just as mad and she has new responsibilities of a head of Tohsaka family. Sakura has it worse but she is completely brainwashed so she doesn't care much. Considering what these two were actually left with, their natures in F/SN feel out of place, at least Rin's for sure. Maybe I just should play/watch someone playing the VN during summer break. Back to the episode, Kirei is definitely going into my top 10 characters. Watching him during every scene was nothing but joy (well, aside from the grin at Rin's crying and Tokiyomi's murder)... I'm messed up. >_> I also LOVED the Gilgamesh scene, I didn't see that coming. :-3 Yay for some hot fanservice. Overall, this was a perfect finale, we got an amazing conclusion to the anime and we also saw what became of the main characters and it wasn't a perfect happy end for anyone (I despise those). About the show, I'm deciding between 9 and 10. I mean, this was definitelly the best anime I saw in a while but it had its mistakes especially pacing during some episodes. Sometimes it went fast, other times it went slow, it was all over the place but in the end it didn't do much harm so I dunno. Also I felt this was better than first season and I gave it 9 but then again, I felt like those 2 episodes of Kiritsugu's flashback killed the pacing for me and the cliffhanger before months long break was awful so normally I would drop to 9 for these stuff... this is confusing. Whatever, I'll rate it 10 to feel good about myself. XD I may have not been able to connect with all the characters, I enjoyed watching some suffer (yeah, I'm messed up, I should feel bad about myself) but this show truly deserves being called a masterpiece so 10/10. "Rin has it worse than Sakura" What are you talking about? Sakura doesn't care about 11 years of abuse and rape? Even Shirou had a harder time living an empty life influenced by Kiritsugu's retarded ideals. If anything, Rin had it the easiest. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: "Rin has it worse than Sakura" What are you talking about? Sakura doesn't care about This episode showed how brainwashed she was. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure she didn't care before she met Shirou. |
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