Sword Art Online Episode 24 Discussion

HiddenVoice said:
Prediction for next episode:

Kirito falls off his bike and dies.

Ovindel said:
I really don't like how this show handles the villains, like others already mentioned they just made up some stupid comment like "I don't know" for Kayaba Akihiko and now we don't even get an explanation for Sugou's actions. I really have had some problems with both the ending of SAO and now this game. SAO was overall better anyway though.
I'm looking forward to seeing Sugou in real life next episode, hopefully they'll make the conclusion better than it is now.

AlexGK said:
Well, let me join the shitfest - score down from 8 to 7/10. Such a waste of VA and music OST talent.

Post-Josh said:
"This anime sucks so much, I actually had to dock my first point ever. 9/10"

BloodRequiem said:


You know 7/10 is a good score right?

AlexGK said:


This was aiming to be 10/10. I cant rate it bad cose of the said VA and BGM, they are still part of the show. After all the hype 7/10 is pure letdown.

Post-Josh said:
"This anime sucks so much, I actually had to dock my first point ever. 9/10"

Yumekichi11 said:

IMO If I were Sugou I would hire Yakuzas to get rid of Kirito. Kidnap Asuna and let's have School Days ending in a double suicide.

Amon-Raw said:


Man that's a good point why didn't Sugou get someone to kill Kirito ? Like while he plays games and crap you could easily kill the kid.

Yumekichi11 said:
YOU KNOW IT MAN! This makes my day now.

He could easily do it. He has loads of money. Even a mere 50 000$ of all his savings would be possible IMO due to his standings. He can be crazy enough to do it IMO as well mentally speaking on the part of Sugou.

In thee end he gives up guess like the sissy he was shown to be but I would have the guts. Maybe it shows he did not really matter much about Asuna to go far as doing what I suggest. Despite that he could easily with his money.

Well the creator won't make it happen but I could suggest it for a OVA, probably never going to happen anyway except in the VR world.

EstelleBright said:
The fuck?

Amon-Raw said:
LMAO wth? 9/10?? after saying that lol wow

whatever123456 said:


That doesn't make any sense. Why would he hire someone to kill Kirito for no reason at all?

Yumekichi11 said:
What I mean he would have reason if he cared enough for Asuna

Yumekichi11 said:
which to me seams not to be the case.

Yumekichi11 said:
He just decided to give up cause he did not have a strong motivation for what I would suggest to him as a result he did not love Asuna that much.

Takuan_Soho said:

So, you are the type of person who would permanently sell themselves to the mob to kill the boyfriend of the girl you like. Okay, I see sanity isn't your particular strong point. And you all think Kayaba was a shallow villain....

Takuan_Soho said:

Sherlock has nothing on you. What was the give away?

Yumekichi11 said:
He just decided to give up cause he did not have a strong motivation for what I would suggest to him as a result he did not love Asuna that much.

Takuan_Soho said:
Where did Sugou ever suggest he cared about Asuna? For all the criticizing you all have done over the series, again most of the problem seems to be that SAO was a little too advanced for you all.

Post-Josh said:
I was exaggerating, but it was just a poke at high raters, lol.

Yumekichi11 said:
Sugou was not sane so much himself. It was perfectly normal under his mental stress to go as wild as this.

Yumekichi11 said:
It's the way he was made to look after being at his best. I wish he could have powered himself up somehow to beat Kirito, which he never tried anything of the sorts or take back control of the console.

Yumekichi11 said:
Actually he did till the last moments where Kirito overwhelms him. Guess he feared him a lot with the pain.

Yumekichi11 said:
Sugou was not sane so much himself. It was perfectly normal under his mental stress to go as wild as this.It's the way he was made to look after being at his best. I wish he could have powered himself up somehow to beat Kirito, which he never tried anything of the sorts or take back control of the console.
Actually he did till the last moments where Kirito overwhelms him. Guess he feared him a lot with the pain.

whatever123456 said:
Point is, Sugou didn't care about Kirito at all. He had her father's consent to "marry" her and was about to brainwash Asuna. Kirito was just some brat he made fun of due to his complex, he had no idea that Kirito tried to find Asuna in the game and even if he knew, the best course of action wouldn't have been killing him.

wheresthehandle said:
meh. Suguha > All

angry123 said:
This show is for bottom feeders. This is absolutely abhorrent. I don't even know where to start on what's wrong with this show.

I was told that K-ON!! was the end of days. I was told that "moeshit" was the end. No I'm looking at the end right here.
And it's a poorly written anime/LN called Sword Art Online

Toucanbird said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you're gonna troll, you might want to take K-On! off your favorites list. lol

Takuan_Soho said:


Trolls aren't exactly known for their intelligence, though at times you think they went to school to learn how to be a troll since they all sound exactly the same :-)

Harpshack said:
And fuck that Is putting the lead female character in almost-hentai scenes really necessary?

Takuan_Soho said:


Trolls aren't exactly known for their intelligence, though at times you think they went to school to learn how to be a troll since they all sound exactly the same :-)

angry123 said:


So instead of bothering to even remotely suggest why SAO isn't garbage, you went to check my account to see my favorites so you could see if I was "Trolling or not"

I'd take the absolute WORST of K-ON!! (Episode 11, S1) OVER SAO in a heartbeat. I'd even go as far to say that the characters in K-ON!! are more developed, and shit, that's what makes SAO so sad, and so terrible.

Yeah, I don't ask for too much. That's why K-ON!! is one of my favorites. That's why I like Ronin Warriors. That's why I like

SAO can't even write a half decent climax to it's self. Is THIS the magical moment you were waiting for? Where Kirito, instead of using his wits or something, is literally just given the power over his foe by the previous mass murderer? I might even call this okay if it was even remotely led up to.
If the only excuse for that is "Well, Sugou is too powerful!" Then maybe the writer should have toned him down so they could actually have a conclusion.

Can you even call that a fight, shit even a bloody conclusion? It felt more like some ad-libbed revenge fantasy or something. What a great protagonist, look at him mercilessly kill this jackass after taking ultimate power from him. Why not just beat him up and be done with it, or just make him a commoner and just leave him to withe now that he's not the god he thought he was. But why do something like that when we can have another pointless fight where Kirito easily beats this terrible sap.

It sure is convenient that he waited until that moment to take advantage of Asuna instead of all the other times he could have literally forced himself on her without a damn thing she could do about it. "oh, but he was doing it to tease Kirito!" He doesn't know anything about the sap, and with his abilities, he shouldn't even consider him a threat, if he considers himself that much of a god. But of course, if we had that, things wouldn't work out in our protagonist's favour.

It's the easiest way to write an antagonist. Just make him absolutely pathetic. You don't have to actually put any thought into his character or what makes him tic, or making him amusing. He's just a strawman for our big hero to effortlessly tear down. He doesn't have a character..he doesn't...function like a human. He is just a thing. A thing for Kirito to tear down.

He may as have just been a dragon.
He may as well have just been a troll or something.
He may as well have just been a virus or something accident put into the game that formed based on people's terrible behaviors in MMORPGs. Hell, that might have made it a bit more interesting if done correctly.

I know that some people actually like this....thing, but whatever. People don't like the same things. But I sure as hell won't be labeled as a troll for not liking this garbage.

angry123 said:


So instead of bothering to even remotely suggest why SAO isn't garbage, you went to check my account to see my favorites so you could see if I was "Trolling or not"

I'd take the absolute WORST of K-ON!! (Episode 11, S1) OVER SAO in a heartbeat. I'd even go as far to say that the characters in K-ON!! are more developed, and shit, that's what makes SAO so sad, and so terrible.

Yeah, I don't ask for too much. That's why K-ON!! is one of my favorites. That's why I like Ronin Warriors. That's why I like

SAO can't even write a half decent climax to it's self. Is THIS the magical moment you were waiting for? Where Kirito, instead of using his wits or something, is literally just given the power over his foe by the previous mass murderer? I might even call this okay if it was even remotely led up to.
If the only excuse for that is "Well, Sugou is too powerful!" Then maybe the writer should have toned him down so they could actually have a conclusion.

Can you even call that a fight, shit even a bloody conclusion? It felt more like some ad-libbed revenge fantasy or something. What a great protagonist, look at him mercilessly kill this jackass after taking ultimate power from him. Why not just beat him up and be done with it, or just make him a commoner and just leave him to withe now that he's not the god he thought he was. But why do something like that when we can have another pointless fight where Kirito easily beats this terrible sap.

It sure is convenient that he waited until that moment to take advantage of Asuna instead of all the other times he could have literally forced himself on her without a damn thing she could do about it. "oh, but he was doing it to tease Kirito!" He doesn't know anything about the sap, and with his abilities, he shouldn't even consider him a threat, if he considers himself that much of a god. But of course, if we had that, things wouldn't work out in our protagonist's favour.

It's the easiest way to write an antagonist. Just make him absolutely pathetic. You don't have to actually put any thought into his character or what makes him tic, or making him amusing. He's just a strawman for our big hero to effortlessly tear down. He doesn't have a character..he doesn't...function like a human. He is just a thing. A thing for Kirito to tear down.

He may as have just been a dragon.
He may as well have just been a troll or something.
He may as well have just been a virus or something accident put into the game that formed based on people's terrible behaviors in MMORPGs. Hell, that might have made it a bit more interesting if done correctly.

I know that some people actually like this....thing, but whatever. People don't like the same things. But I sure as hell won't be labeled as a troll for not liking this garbage.

Toucanbird said:


Of course I'm going to check your profile. It's the easiest way to find out if someone is serious or if they are just trolling to get a ruse out of people. Then again, you might actually want to "specify" why something is garbage before you get all crybaby about people calling you a troll. You had ZERO thought provoking insight to even be taken seriously.

In regards to the ending of Episode 24 and Kirito being given the log-in commands from Akihiko, I didn't see anything wrong with it. When Kirito was pinned down, it caused him to remember the time he was in Aincrad and overcame all odds to defeat Akihiko. It worked here because it was the reminder that Kirito needed that he wasn't powerless. He had hacked into the game's system before in Aincrad and could do the same, even with Sugou running things. In a sense, it wasn't even so much "given" the power to beat Sugou, Kirito figured it out through remembrance that he could use Akihiko's GM powers to take back control of the game from Sugou.

You're also off-the-mark on the "killing" part. He's not "killing" Sugou. You're forgetting that this is a game. Sugou is still alive, even though Kirito killed him in the game. Yes, in a sense, it is a revenge fantasy. However, if it were me and I was watching my girlfriend getting raped in front of while at the same time getting tortured myself, and I had the ability to take back control, I'd do the same thing Kirito did. It was more than just a revenge fantasy, he protected what was dearest to him while at the same time giving Sugou a taste of his own medicine. Sugou took pleasure out of other people's suffering and Kirito wanted to pay him back for the misdeeds he was doing to Asuna and the others he trapped in ALO. Pointless fight, my ass. If nothing else, it was one of the most meaningful fights in the series.

Now here you are just plain wrong. You need to go back to the early parts of the ALO arc (actually before Kirito started playing ALO). Unlike what you said, he DOES know who Kirito is. He knows EXACTLY who Kirito is. He met Kirito in the hospital room and was well aware of his connection to Asuna. Hell, he even went so far as to show off in-front of him in the hospital room because he knew Kirito was powerless to do anything about it. Sugou even told Asuna that he doubted that Kirito even had the balls to come back to VRMMORPG playing to try and rescue her. He doubted he even knew where she was. Sugou knew damn well that Kirito is in love with his fiance after all and Sugou, through the connections he has with the Yuuki family, did plan on marrying Asuna while she was still trapped in the game. He knew this all too well and decided to take advantage of Asuna at that moment then because he knew how much that would pain Kirito to see. Not hard to figure out that Sugou is a scumbag that enjoys watching people suffer.

Again, here's where your wrong. Sugou, for all intensive purposes, is a bully. Bullies, for the most part, are pretty pathetic human beings. They use bullying as a form of showing their superiority, when deep down inside, they are inferior and use their hatred out of that feeling of inferiority. Bullies are pathetic. In the moment that Kirito took control of Akihiko's commands, Sugou had a realization that his inferiority to Akihiko still existed. I find it interesting that you said, "he doesn't function like a human." Oh really? I'll have to disagree with you there. Humans are VASTLY different with their personalities. He doesn't function like a MORAL human being, but consider the big picture, it's pretty obvious to tell that there's nothing "moral" about Sugou.

Nobody said you had to like this "garbage". However, as whatever stated, if you don't want to be called a troll, perhaps you should implement a more thoughtful analysis into what you're saying instead of just suffering diarrhea of the mouth and stating that Sword Art Online is poorly written trash. Even I'll admit SAO has a lot of flaws, but compared to a lot of anime nowadays, it's not THAT bad. I can honestly say I've seen A LOT more anime that were worse than Sword Art Online. The fact that THIS series is what gets you mad about how poorly anime is written is laughable. Trust me, it's not hard to go out and find animes written worse than Sword Art Online.

Zeally said:

Massive unexplained plot holes that will never be explained like how exactly did Kirito re-materialize himself after being defeated in SAO by Kayaba. Why is Asuna even alive when she clearly died taking the hit for Kirito?

Zeally said:


From the way I see it the anime is really horrific for the amount of money they invested into animating it. Massive unexplained plot holes that will never be explained like how exactly did Kirito re-materialize himself after being defeated in SAO by Kayaba. Why is Asuna even alive when she clearly died taking the hit for Kirito? Where the hell did Kirito get the admin password to become a GM, which was a pretty crappy and anti-climatic resolution either way to defeating Sugou to be honest. The character development (if there was any) of Kirito and Asuna was mediocre at best. The anime was pretty promising and I wished they had a heavier emphasis on defeating raid bosses instead of going with the short action scenes. The anime really became a romance/drama more than anything and if that was what the author's intent was, they failed pretty badly at that as well. Personally I thought the dialogue was pretty horrific as well because it sounded really corny and awkward. The dialogue was so awkward at times that it made me laugh rather than nerd rage at it. There I explained why I think SAO is garbage. You don't have to accept it or agree with me but its personally how I feel about the anime. I don't hate on anyone that watches it because I'm staying for the long haul as well. 0 intention to troll

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