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Mar 19, 2009 10:54 PM

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Just got a chance to catch the episode -- great one! It really put the way the characters have been acting in the last few episodes into perspective. In particular, Rina's interest in Touya, even though she doesn't seem to realize it herself, is a lot clearer. And, to top it off, her face at the end was simply priceless!

I'm enjoying this show more and more as it goes along.

DeathfireD said:
I don't understand what was so funny about Touya braking down and crying.

Agreed -- though I understand why the seeming unexpectedness of it could create that response, depending on opinion of the show and possibly level of maturity.

Shin-kun said:
this show is just getting better and better , i love the ways its just twisting and bending so realistically =Ds

Doubly agreed.

DeathfireD said:
I like the show but I hate the "fans" for it lol. So far the series has been decent but all I hear is bitch bitch bitch on the forums about how bad it's been :P. Suck it up guys and stop complaining. If it's so bad then drop it and move on with your lives.

I think it's very interesting to read that so many people don't seem to be enjoying it. At the same time, I've also noticed a lot of people seem to be having a hard time following the subtleties of what the characters are doing and going through, asking for explanation, blatantly misunderstanding things, etc. Now, I haven't been keeping track, so I don't know if these two groups match up, but I can certainly say that I'm enjoying it and feeling like I'm watching it on a closer level than others seem to imply they are. Maybe there's a correlation there?

(Which is not to say that you can't watch it on a close level and not like it.)

Forever said:
Moreover we live in a society where a man crying is a sign of weakness and young male teens think that it is a very shameful & embarrassing thing.

Excellent point. Triply agreed.


Forever said:
I also think the term "raped by yayoi" is not really appropriate. Of course I know it sounds funny and all, but he is only getting constantly seduced by her until he was too weak to resist any more one day (though I couldn't understand in the first place why he would still let her drive him home when she was doing all those despicable things like bribing him). Now they have a common sex relationship (with motivation on both sides) , though I'm still not sure what I should think about Yayoi and her moves. It's actually really exciting to see how this will turn out.
If you insist we can call Touya her love slave! :P

I think this is a good assessment of the situation, though personally I had been assuming at least a third base sexual relationship in the earlier encounters -- I mean they are both adults and this is the 80's. That may or may not concur with what you're saying though. In any case, based on this, I definitely wouldn't characterize this as rape.
chicanerousMar 19, 2009 11:33 PM
Mar 20, 2009 5:25 PM
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has anyone stated yet if they are having sex or not? I'm curious how far these two are taking it.
Mar 20, 2009 8:26 PM

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Well, in a drama scene if something like that happened it should be assume as having sex. I don't think they actually need to show what exactly happened there for us to understand that they are having sex.


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Mar 21, 2009 8:31 AM
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i dun need to see anything, but if they talked about it then it would be easier to understand. Everytime i see them they seem to be fully clothed and in the car(which is very uncomfortable)

EDIT: got my answer in episode 12.
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Mar 21, 2009 9:11 PM

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Finally got around to watching this. Was an alright episode, Touya crying was a little unexpected though. I liked Haruka and Mana's scene (you could really hear the !Nagi in her voice).
Mar 22, 2009 8:54 PM

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Crying itself isn't pathetic, and I can understand why Touya was crying, but he did sound kind of funny when he was crying. I don't know why, it might be because I know someone who kind of cries and yet tries to talk at the same time like Touya did. Some people seem to take issue with the unexpected nature of the tears, but I thought it was quite well done. He was talking about all that other nonsense (regarding Haruka, the little girl, his Senpai, etc) because he was trying to forget about Yuki, and then when Yayoi asked him about her, he couldn't ignore it any more. That's why he started crying at that moment.

Despite some obvious flaws, I'm still enjoying this show to some degree. It seems realistic yet kind of surreal at the same time.
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Mar 22, 2009 10:20 PM

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Yayoi FTW! Touya's crying makes me lol for some no reason. I will watch this series until the final episode.
Mar 23, 2009 9:20 PM

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Whoa!
Last time I checked this anime was only supposed to consist of 12 episodes! And it's getting a 2nd season as well? :O
Well no wonder that the storyline seemed so feeble and slow paced...

Anyway, Rina's shocked face was something ^^

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The crying made me laugh because it was pathetic.

Yea sorta...
Mar 24, 2009 6:45 PM

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Shinozuka-san...



Ogata Rina..



I wonder how things will turn out...

Mar 31, 2009 10:36 PM

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Just when I started to think that Rina was trying to help Yuki and Touya's relationship. Appartently no one in this series wants them to be together. Touya actually broke down and cried because he misses Yuki and Yayoi just took advantage of that when she clearly knows Yuki is trying to get in touch with him.

But what right does Touya have to get upset about not knowing Yuki's feelings. He's all upset because she hasn't gotten in touch with him or told him about her concert, but how she is suppose to when he's never home to answer his phone. First, he was off 'helping' Misaki with her costumes. Then, he's always off with Yayoi till late at night or early in the morning. And now, he's off prouncing around being Rina's audience. He annoys me to a crazy level. But then again, everyone in this series except for Yuki does.
Apr 4, 2009 4:01 AM

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Fuck Touya, I feel like punching his face in. In the end Rina is like wtf man? He is so messed up even Naruto can't believe it.
Apr 21, 2009 6:45 AM

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I didn't know that the show is based in 1986!!?
Oct 7, 2009 12:42 PM

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Seriously, I'm the only one here who found disgusting that Yaoi licked Touya's tears? :/ Anyway Touya is so fucked up in the head now, just right now when he needs Yuki the most he gets seduced by such a fucking devil woman; he got him right in the weak spot.

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Dec 17, 2009 10:08 PM

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Still disappointed in Fujii...

100% my hypothesis... Yayoi doesn't care one bit about Fujii. She is kissing him and these stupid late night car sessions to make him stray from Yuki. It's her duty to protect Yuki, but I think she's got the wrong idea... My guess is that she is only doing and messing with his head so he stays out of Yuki's way and her becoming an idol.

I think Rina finally knows somethings going on. Why she ripped up the note... I think Rina knows that Yayoi's trying to keep Yuki's relationship under the covers and 'out of her way'. That 'I've got a meeting with Shinozuka-san.' Was a dead giveaway. I hope Rina slaps him. I'm starting to like Rina. ^_^

As for Fujii's current feelings... I think he doesn't quite understand what the heck he is doing with Yayoi and finding an answer while wondering about what Yuki's feelings are. I mean, her feelings would be definite if Yayoi wasn't doing this... So basically, his head is in a spin because of the manager.

So basically... what I am saying... Shinozuka-san must die... -_-.
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more afffari!
Feb 5, 2012 10:26 AM
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Is he totally dump ? wtf Dude either brake up or don't cheat.. i can't watch this any longer. He got perfect chick, even idol, he seems to love her yet he's going around and doing that and this with plenty of other girls. Facepalm
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It's like cheap porno mixed with drama
" yo, I'm Touya"
"Nice to meet ya, I'm manager of your GF and i'm too obvious in waht im doing , trying to separate you two, look at licking skills "
*censorship*
5 mins later - new chick same thing just different positions
The end
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drama - he cheats here with her , she lies to him , her, them ,
He realized his feelings but then he realized that what he realized 1st time wasn't it so he needs to realized something new just so he can realize that 1st thing actually was "it"



greenmartyFeb 5, 2012 10:43 AM
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Feb 11, 2012 9:14 AM

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Why is he not dead yet? =_=
Aug 14, 2012 2:51 PM

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Touya is like a fkin child. Easily influenced and cries like a little bitch! LOL
Sep 10, 2012 6:52 PM

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Dat manager in a nutshell:

Dec 21, 2012 12:30 PM

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It'll be interesting to see where this is going. I expect to see more drama.
Jun 24, 2013 7:34 PM

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Rina's my favorite character but it's hard not to get a kick out of her reaction at the end when Touya tells her he has a meeting with Yayoi.
Oct 14, 2013 5:29 PM

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My tear lick was pretty hot.
Oct 18, 2013 5:51 PM

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While it did start out ok, they way that it's going is just so bad that it's good. Let me paraphrase the part where Touya starts crying: "Oh no, my gf didn't tell me her feelings while I was hooking up with my childhood friend and her manager. How could she do that to me?!"

I'm really only watching for the christmas cake action right now since I'm not really interested in anyone else. Rina is even feeling bad that he't not hanging out with her but with Yayoi. I also don't know why Yuki doesn't say anything about all this. Maybe she really is that dependent or weak but it's really sad. I really have to think hard about whether I'll continue watching the 2nd part.
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Nov 25, 2013 5:51 PM

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phantom19 said:
While it did start out ok, they way that it's going is just so bad that it's good. Let me paraphrase the part where Touya starts crying: "Oh no, my gf didn't tell me her feelings while I was hooking up with my childhood friend and her manager. How could she do that to me?!"

I'm really only watching for the christmas cake action right now since I'm not really interested in anyone else. Rina is even feeling bad that he't not hanging out with her but with Yayoi. I also don't know why Yuki doesn't say anything about all this. Maybe she really is that dependent or weak but it's really sad. I really have to think hard about whether I'll continue watching the 2nd part.


kind agree, each time i finish a episode im asking myself, should i stop to watch this show? HOW pathetic is this guys? its so annoying,

someone will be mad if i say i laugh to him while he was crying?

p.s touya is so much a disgrace for lot of guys watching this
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Weird development this anime feels strange.
Apr 20, 2015 5:58 PM

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I couldn't help but laugh a little at Touya's crying. Then Yayoi licked his tears. YOUR TEARS ARE DELICIOUS! Then that kiss with tounge! Hot!

So Touya has a meeting with Yayoi? For what?

I wonder if they did what I think they did in that car...
Nov 17, 2015 4:48 PM

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LOl he doesn't even care about cheating anymore.
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"tears were delicious" has never been hotter

well let the chaos begin... rooting all the way for yayoi now

zashiki warashi xd
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Wooo go Touya and Manager-san! Touya nicely managing the harem. Just keep stringing along Yuki and get to her when you can. She's boring anyway.


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