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| WTF was that ending sh1t. |
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| And a bad ending to a bad series. My score of 4 wavered a bit but in the end it won. I only wavered when knowing about Renton's and Eureka's hardships but even that in the end was meaningless pretty much. This is a 25 episode series who ultimately is all about Renton and Eureka trying to protect the world Ao is living to keep him alive and it's sweet and all (considering how their first child died) but it kinda negates everything before. This could have easily been 2-3 OVAs and actually have a better concrete story than this series. And everything seems meaningless when Ao sacrifices himself either way. Sure, it's touching and it shows nothing goes according to plan but it's kind of a turn off considering the rest of everything. And how fast did Renton and Eureka accept that he was going to sacrifice himself... They even managed to mess a bit my image of them. So, apart from the story that mostly was unneeded and had no real connection to the story, nothing else rly stood out. Character development was either non-existent or plain bad with my main example being Fleur. At first I was indifferent to her, then I heard the story of her father's decision to keep her alive thus agreeing to her mother's death. Instead of understanding her father at some point and how hard it was for him and get closer to the only family she had left, she chose to be a horrid bitch and blaming him for everything. If only that was the initial phase, I'd be fine but no, she is horrible. And now, in the last episode she shows again her maturity by asking Ao how could he choose his real family when he had told her and the rest that they are his family. Well, excuuuuuse me princess for wanting to save my mother. Truth... Oh, Truth Truth... Too much fuss for ultimately nothing. This is an example of something small escalating to something major without rly any necessity to be there. Can go on for the rest of cast but honestly I don't care. None of them left a strong impression and I can mostly say bad things so yeah. I can say though that I pity Ao at times. He got a major power to change the future at such a young age and no kid can rly know what to do so yes, he is put in a position no kid should be and can understand a bit not wanting to defeat Truth thus changing the future again. Though in the end, he seems pretty happy even though he is in the 3rd world and might even not exist there. Story and characters are my top priotities in a show and both were pretty butchered. I could care less about Ao and even less about the supporting characters soooo a 4 should be something I'm generous with xD |
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Maffy said: And a bad ending to a bad series. My score of 4 wavered a bit but in the end it won. I only wavered when knowing about Renton's and Eureka's hardships but even that in the end was meaningless pretty much. .... Story and characters are my top priotities in a show and both were pretty butchered. I could care less about Ao and even less about the supporting characters soooo a 4 should be something I'm generous with xD Have to agree with you. the one redeeming side of this entire finale was the realization that the whole reason Eureka had come to that time period was Renton's decision to give his son a chance at life. That he loved his son that much he was willing to let him go. Mind you at the end of the day even that whole spiel about how Eureka and Renton couldn't have a child because trapar turned them to stone was for the most part stupid. Yeah it made for a very heart wrenching sadness, you really feel their pain.... but why even make that creative decision in the first place. Not to mention it makes absolutely no sense. Why would their child turn to stone from trapar exposure. I mean Eureka and Renton both don't turn to stone being exposed to it. Neither of them have that trait. So why introduce a medical complication like this to a beloved anime couple. There are so many elements of the show that are never explained... or never expanded upon other then a brief mentioning. So yeah absolutely completely pointless in the end. Maybe one day I'll watch it all again and not be as disappointed by it all. A fresh take on it and less expectation or something. |
TheMaverickkNov 20, 2012 6:32 AM
| I'm crying here. Be ashamed of yourself, Bones. |
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| I had good hopes for last two episodes, but i got utterly disappointed... What the fuck is with this fucking plot and ending.. |
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| The anime itself is a paradox, did I just use the right word? pity to be Ao at the ending. I hope the Ao that gets born properly grows up well with both parents this time around. To those who didn't understand the ending, you guys need to watch more mindfuck anime. Please correct me if I'm wrong with my analysis, there will be 2 Ao? the original Ao that sacrificed himself so he could take Eureka's stead and he finally lived in a different universe and timeline at 2027 AD. The second Ao is the 2 year old that got left behind during this encounter and will grow up in a world without IFOs and scub bursts due to the first Ao's intervention. Well this is just hilarious! P.S. I am aware of the infinite universe and timline but what happens to the 2 year old Ao that got left behind! :c kawai-soune... |
ItadakiimasuNov 20, 2012 6:35 AM
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Zacanator531 said: E But yeah, the whole thing about Renton acting like "Oh, now that I have Eureka, I'll let Ao go sacrifice his existence without thinking twice" was bullshit to me. Typical Bones. Good thing they didn't try to make a Darker Than Black season 2... Yeah I hate the part where they sacrificed their son, so 2 dead offsprings so far and probably counting? anyways there is a darker than black season 2 :P i or did you mean a season 3? |
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triforcebih said: Itadakiimasu said: Please correct me if I'm wrong with my analysis, there will be 2 Ao? the original Ao that sacrificed himself so he could take Eureka's stead and he finally lived in a different universe and timeline at 2027 AD. The second Ao is the 2 year old that got left behind during this encounter and will grow up in a world without IFOs and scub bursts due to the first Ao's intervention. Well this is just hilarious! There are infinite numbers of Ao's and universes meh. This is why I don't like dimension skipping stuff Yes indeed, I am aware of the infinite universe and timeline but my concern is what will happen to the poor old 2 year old Ao that got left behind :c |
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triforcebih said: Itadakiimasu said: Yes indeed, I am aware of the infinite universe and timeline but my concern is what will happen to the poor old 2 year old Ao that got left behind :c It already happened. BONES happened xd I want to cry :c BONES WHY ARE YOU SO SKELLY AT WRITING... this ending gave a similar feeling to that of darker than black season 2 ending. |
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Itadakiimasu said: I've watched mindfuck animes before that have been far more cohesive.The anime itself is a paradox, did I just use the right word? pity to be Ao at the ending. I hope the Ao that gets born properly grows up well with both parents this time around. To those who didn't understand the ending, you guys need to watch more mindfuck anime. Please correct me if I'm wrong with my analysis, there will be 2 Ao? the original Ao that sacrificed himself so he could take Eureka's stead and he finally lived in a different universe and timeline at 2027 AD. The second Ao is the 2 year old that got left behind during this encounter and will grow up in a world without IFOs and scub bursts due to the first Ao's intervention. Well this is just hilarious! For that matter I've seen shows and movies better handle time travel paradoxes as well. There are several times in the anime where certain things follow one rule of time travel while other moments where they follow different rules of time travel. To a certain extent the show is very unclear whether it's time travel or multiple universes. Which can be two different things. Basically if a company wants to produce a show like this they have to have a sort of logic to it. Mind you the whole time travel aspect was just the tip of it. There are way to many times in Ao that they touch on things that they never expand. Not to mention poor relationship building between characters. Very rarely when I was watching the show did I get the impression that there was a sincere amount of concern between Ao and Fleur, or Elena or anyone else for that matter. There are a few moments where you see some strong connection between characters, but it's always short stopped and again never expanded on. Characters like Naru's family, or even Toshio Fukai (the grandpa care giver figure). You are introduced to so many characters that never develop past anything superficial. It just would've been nice if the characters were more then filler if you know what I mean. Like really who was Gazelle, and his friends... even after watching the entire show I still have no idea why I'm supposed to care who these characters are. They just sort of tagged along. To a certain degree that's what a lot of the characters feel like.... they are just tagging along with Ao, usually spouting the obvious. Maybe this is a result of such a large cast of characters and trying to characterize them in a short time span. Still by comparison I cared more for characters like Ray and Charles, and they made me care in fewer episodes. The characters had relevance to both the overall story and as part of Rentons character development. So the dissatisfaction with the series is ultimately more then just the ending. |
| These last two episodes made this anime... Brought a tear to my eye with Renton and Eureka... HNNNNNNGGGGG... SO MANY FEELS!!! |
Helladank said: Yeah but still doesn't do the original series justice. These last two episodes made this anime... Brought a tear to my eye with Renton and Eureka... HNNNNNNGGGGG... SO MANY FEELS!!! Not to mention why not have Eureka and Renton remain in the past with him? If the scubs have been prevented from traveling back in time, then they could live alongside him in a new time. I mean Renton was the guy who went to impossible lengths to be with Eureka. The Nirvash made that happen even. Yet for whatever reason the ending of Ao had to end this way? The best solution Renton could come up with in the end was destroying the origin of all scub (essentially that proposal implies he would've never met Eureka and never had a son either) before they could ever cover the entire world in his universe, and ultimately begin leaving to other planes. Not to mention... why all this fighting with the scubs???? That was RESOLVED in the original Eureka Seven. They left the physical plane of existence. Scubs knew better then to aggressively expand and take over the world, meld with people... the scubs had learned through the emotions engraved in the compact drive. So why not mediate with them again? This time to tell the scubs to stop traveling through time to infect earth earlier? THERE WAS SO MANY OTHER WAYS TO END THE SERIES.... possibilities that even made sense in respect to the original series. |
| I'm still in shock. What just happened? Did Bones just screw up another perfectly good franchise? I TRUSTED YOU THIS TIME BONES. I TRUSTED THAT YOU WOULD DELIVER A FRESH, ENTERTAINING E7 SEQUEL. Well, I guess that's what they did, in the end; minus the fresh part and making the entertainment stem from how bad it is. I'm going to rewatch E7 soon and wash the AO taste out of my mouth. Here's hoping that Zetsuen no Tempest doesn't go this route. |
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lkx said: The only common sense conclusion is that Ao removed himself from the timeline and restored everything to how it was supposed to happen without scub coral or secrets interfering the world events. (A timeline as described by Truth before he erased himself). . . . . By the look of the final scene, I think Ao will be just fine, even if nobody remembers him. What's important is that he remembers them! At the end of the day though.... is Ao's story worth remembering? I mean was it even really worth telling this story? That's all I have in mind personally. Other then the few highlights in it, I have little reason to care as a fan of Eureka Seven. Which I think is really unfortunate. I may come back and watch it in the future and enjoy it for what it is. Still that is something I'm not ready to subject myself to at the moment. |
| I don't know. But I'm kinda disappointed :( I kinda don't get it but I watched it twice to really understand it more. I feel sad for Ao. He sacrificed his self. That's so sad. As if he never existed .. this hurts my feelings .. esp. with the song that is playing in the end. |
| I know it's all happy and shit but I'm really really disappointed, what the hell did I just watched !!? |
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koolaid117 said: Just can't believe they made us wait 2 months for this. basicly the easiest way to put it is that the anime never happened, and thats the ending. kinda fitting as how bad bones messed it up, maybe they though the only way to salvage this anime was by making it not happen at all. I had hoped that they would've taken the two months off to refocus and just really bring about an ending that would do justice to the whole Renton reveal at the end of episode 22. Seriously they had two months to make a decent ending, and the best they could come with is making it so it didn't happen? They had the creative freedom to do absolutely anything. They could've had Renton and Eureka communicate with the scub and end their whole "time migration".... so many other potential endings. It was convoluted, contradicting and had plenty of plot holes, they could've done whatever.... but at the very least make it something fans could be content with. At least to justify watching to this point. |
| sooo...this never happened lololol |
| Wow...uh...hmm... I don't even know what to say about "this". I'll just come out and say when I first heard about an Eureka Seven sequel. I was stoked. I couldn't wait to see what Bones had in store for the hardcore Eureka fans. At first glance, it seemed promising. However, as this series wore on, it became really confusing, really mundane, and by the time it was all over...unnecessary. I guess the ending was fitting. The events of E7: Ao were erased as if it never even happened. With this ending, it's almost as if Bones told Eureka Seven fans "yeah, we sort of screwed up with this series so we're just going to pretend this never even happened in the Eureka Seven continuity. We cool?" My answer would be...no. No, we're not "cool". Despite everything, the fact of the matter is this series still happened. This series was still written, directed, and produced. You had an entire staff to put together an amazing sequel series and failed...miserably. I think the biggest problem with this series is the writers tried to tackle too much with time travel/dimensional travel. Instead of writing something innovative and interesting, they wrote something confusing as all hell and created a VERY unsatisfying conclusion. Ao could've died and he'd have had a better fate than the ones the writers gave him. When I first discovered the whole time travel/dimensional travel element, I thought this could be really interesting...turned out to be really, REALLY bad. Another problem with the writing (as been pointed out by other posters) is it seemed like the writers were focusing much more on the plot elements and not enough on character development. Of course, it's a little unfair to compare this to Eureka Seven as far as character development is concerned because that had 50 episodes to develop character while this only had 24. HOWEVER, even for a 24 episode series, the character development was seriously lacking. I'm not upset that there wasn't a love story or anything like there was with the original series. However, all of the characters in this series seemed essentially pointless. The only characters that mattered outside of Ao were essentially Eureka, Renton, and Truth. Go figure that Eureka only shows up sporadically and most of that is in the latter half, Renton only shows up in the last two episodes, and Truth is developed as a "ultimate villain" type and then suddenly becomes an ultimate ally. Here's a sad confession from my part. If you knew me, you know I HATE anime movies based off an original series. Whether they be sequels, shortened re-tellings, alternative re-tellings, prequels, and what have you, I just cannot stand them. They RARELY ever capture the same magic the original series pulled off. I sadly HOPE they make an alternative re-telling movie of this series. I am so dissatisfied with this series that a movie could only be an improvement over what this series tried. |
| I honestly just want a proper "epilogue" to most of the characters. I honestly don't care about Gazzele anthe Okinawa X Japan thing. I only want to know what happened to most of the Triton crew, especially Fleur who got "dumped" by Ao, in the same sense of Feldt from the 00 Movie. Needs a proper Epilogue. |
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 MASTER PIC DEFINITELY :D GREAT FIND LMAO |
| Here are my thoughts: What The Fuck That is all. |
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| I don't think the ending was all that bad |
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| Just wow yea lets just leave this chat at this cuz the best part of this show was the fact that Eureka 7 was the prequel. |
the_trainman said: MASTER PIC DEFINITELY :D GREAT FIND LMAO also how the fuck Ao knew how to use the board? even Renton had problems with reffing :D Besides, if he erased scub coral then not eureka nor him would exist in first place. He should have disappeared. |
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nanamichan212 said: My thoughts exactly! Ao is a moron, he forgot he killed all trapar with the magic gun.... Then jumped out of Nirvash and midway in the air "Oh crap". Happy music, cut to credits. |
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| yay its finally over now to wait for it along with Aquarion EVOL, AGE and hopefully Unicorn and EVA RB to appear in the next SRW Z can see that E7 AO dimension/parallel worlds/time travel mind fuck would fit in also even tho memories of Ao have been wipe out i like to think that that it still lingers within his friends like Maggie when approached her old mech she see small glimpse of her memories before the quarts gun was shot the first time if i remember correctly |
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