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| good episode was hoping it wasn't the more obvious choice but we still got 2 more episodes ,knew Kiki was the core but the chairman saying shes up feels like there's gonna be something else she'll do D: |
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| I have suspected the chief of being John Walker, but now finding out that was true I am disappointed.... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.... |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
JakkoFourEyes said: Is it me, or was that whole 7 thing kind of an asspull? None of that information she used to reach that conclusion was available to us (unless I missed it), so we kinda have to take it as is. Yeah I don't think that kind of information was available to us, but if you remember in the first episode, the Perforator only had 7 actual victims. So we only have that information that could lead us to that conclusion. In fairness though, she was able to figure out that information by herself with the help of Narihisago's information, without him telling her about it. ferdievonaegir said: honestly yeah i thought the whole numbers and arithnomania thing was an asspull too but hey anything goes right How was the arithmomania an asspull though? Even if it was only in the previous episode, you can still see that he wrote tons of numbers on the side of the Mizunohame. Also in the first episode, in Fukuda's well, the calendar had perfectly aligned dates, which means he perfectly remembers what the days and dates were in that month, even though it was already a long time after that time period. (I would have posted some pictures, but I can't seem to figure out where to upload them myself to connect them here.) Why he drilled a hole in his head made sense after we realised he had arithmomania, since it would lower some of his brain functions, thus most likely stopping his aritmomania (but I have no idea how one would survive that). If you want to know how Narihisago figured out why Fukuda's favourite number is 3, you can check this picture I found in Reddit:  As you can see, his whole outfit is made up in things of threes. I didn't even think for a second that their outfits can be related to their personalities in any way, but I was wrong. It goes further, by the way:  |
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| Btw I like how none of the cops/agents were really surprised that the chief was JW. They were like:  That just also shows that it wasn't supposed to be a surpirse to us viewers either. |
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Tellatez said: John Walker being the chief was pretty obvious and disappointing, but the way Hondomachi uncovered the identity of John Walker was really good. Looks like kiki is still alive then. Can't wait for next episode. Why was it disapointing? While it was obvious I found the journey to uncover him was done brilliantly. |
| I actually am curious how this is resolved in 2 episodes. Togo's confession was hilarious in the dub! Hopefully the ending sticks the landing considering how well everything prior was handled |
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| now in this episode all story connected .. damnn i love this animee |
| nailed it... I knew it... but kinda sad... and disappointed because the CLUE already laid down since episode 8 after the closer look at john walker... and kiki asukai I knew it she wasn't dead but used as someone mention it in a forum... overall good episode but kinda sad that it easy to predict the antagonist |
Vindicater said: Tellatez said: John Walker being the chief was pretty obvious and disappointing, but the way Hondomachi uncovered the identity of John Walker was really good. Looks like kiki is still alive then. Can't wait for next episode. Why was it disapointing? While it was obvious I found the journey to uncover him was done brilliantly. because he wanted to be hard and not to be easy to predict... sometimes people hard to be satisfied.. |
jd2001z said: JakkoFourEyes said: Is it me, or was that whole 7 thing kind of an asspull? None of that information she used to reach that conclusion was available to us (unless I missed it), so we kinda have to take it as is. Yeah I don't think that kind of information was available to us, but if you remember in the first episode, the Perforator only had 7 actual victims. So we only have that information that could lead us to that conclusion. In fairness though, she was able to figure out that information by herself with the help of Narihisago's information, without him telling her about it. ferdievonaegir said: honestly yeah i thought the whole numbers and arithnomania thing was an asspull too but hey anything goes right How was the arithmomania an asspull though? Even if it was only in the previous episode, you can still see that he wrote tons of numbers on the side of the Mizunohame. Also in the first episode, in Fukuda's well, the calendar had perfectly aligned dates, which means he perfectly remembers what the days and dates were in that month, even though it was already a long time after that time period. (I would have posted some pictures, but I can't seem to figure out where to upload them myself to connect them here.) Why he drilled a hole in his head made sense after we realised he had arithmomania, since it would lower some of his brain functions, thus most likely stopping his aritmomania (but I have no idea how one would survive that). If you want to know how Narihisago figured out why Fukuda's favourite number is 3, you can check this picture I found in Reddit: As you can see, his whole outfit is made up in things of threes. I didn't even think for a second that their outfits can be related to their personalities in any way, but I was wrong. It goes further, by the way: oh my god... can you link any other small detail you find... i am interested in that |
| With all the chaos going on, can we take a minute to praise the brilliant detectives especially Anaido for not going crazy out there and being the best support. Damn I like this guy even more now. |
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| I knew! So far, my theory is right but I honestly have no idea how this is all going to end. This might have seemed predictable but like I've said before; I think the big reveal was never meant to be WHO John Walker is but WHY John Walker is. The last 2 episodes are gonna be incredible! This anime is so underrated and it's a damn shame. |
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| oh! interesting! so the true Johnny Walker is none other than Chief Hayaseura Takuhiko! what the!? cyborg Kiki Asukai? damn cliffhanger! 5/5. |
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| I don't need to state the obvious that the Chief who ratted Director Momoki out was John Walker all along, but how this show managed to encapsulate was just SO WELL DONE. Not the WHO, but WHY is he John Walker in the first place. With Kura now knowing that Sakaido being trapped in the ID:Well by the Mizuhanome, they can't afford to lose anymore information. As for Fukuda, more than his brain-drilled self, his means of escapism is how John Walker would do the same, just not very aptly in facing death. Same with Hondomachi with the changes to the ID:Well through the cockpit intercepting different wells, the main thing now is to get these three detectives together and solve the case behind John Walker. All of John Walker's lackeys, albeit arrested in the real world, done with their own purpose...or rather their traces that helped him gain collective manipulative efforts. For the Hondomachi that can intercept wells within wells, all she needs are lead and resolutions to people affiliated with John Walker (e.g. the Fukuda before he was arrested for brillant detective experiments). Back to Director Momoki's place, all that talk about the cognitive particles and such the past few episodes, all are about to be revealed. With the extraction of Hondomachi in Sakaido's ID:Well, and the chief being found out, all that's left is to solve Kaeru a.k.a Kiki Asukai's killings in the ID:Wells from the beginning. Dreams that leads to pleasures to kill. "As if he were God created from the world..." that is the Chief Hayasekura, and the "resurrected" Kiki Asukai that looks the same, but in a very different fashion. Seems to me that she is his Mizuhanome...or that could be just speculation. The final epilogue...this battle's truly gonna be a good one! |
KANLen09Mar 10, 2020 4:39 AM
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| john walker reveal is a bit letdown, I expected something grander but oh well that's good for now because the bigger and biggest twist will be in the last two episodes, hyped! About Kiki, just my guess, is that the chief is trying to turn her into a telepathic weapon of some sort lol Hondomachi is amazing, and Anaido is a living computer with that number memory |
| Anime is fun. |
| Just binged all 11 episodes and enjoyed it... But isn't there a plot hole of how the id well of Narihisago got "masked" as Momoki's id well with the desert landscape, etc. How could an id well be manipulated that way? I guess it could all be swept under the carpet of "we don't really know how the Mizuhonome works" and the chief/John Walker and the inventor of the Mizuhonome somehow invented the whole id well exploration thing so they could hide from everyone else that Id Wells can actually be externally manipulated |
ShanAsuna said: Just binged all 11 episodes and enjoyed it... But isn't there a plot hole of how the id well of Narihisago got "masked" as Momoki's id well with the desert landscape, etc. How could an id well be manipulated that way? I guess it could all be swept under the carpet of "we don't really know how the Mizuhonome works" and the chief/John Walker and the inventor of the Mizuhonome somehow invented the whole id well exploration thing so they could hide from everyone else that Id Wells can actually be externally manipulated First well was from the moment Narihisago shot Challenger, second one from end of Ep 3, it was 3 years between both wells. Also they mentioned something about Mizuhonome hiding actual well, because Narihisago was inside his own well |
NovaMagic said: Of course they make the most obvious guy to be the main villain, it's ERASED all over again.... That's what everyone who doesn't understand this series complains about. Just read the comments...... |
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Marinate1016 said: I was today years old when I realised I had been pronouncing this show name wrong for three months. I'd been saying "Eye dee" Invaded instead of ID as in the id wells lmao. It wasn't until I saw the katakana that I realised that. sorry but I still don't know how pronounce this. could you give me like to google translate or other website that could pronounce this? |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.123/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.231/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.141/? - weekly) | MAD (Ch.33/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.101/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.28/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| Ah, such a shame. They actually went with the most obvious and predictable option regarding who John Walker might be. Kinda disappointed with this outcome but that aside, I still liked the way how Narihisago, Hondoumachi and to some extent, Fukuda unraveled the whole mystery. Regarding the episode as a whole and despite the not-so-surprising revelation, it was still another quite entertaining one. Really liked the importance Fukuda's character received throughout these last few weeks and now that we know that chief Hayaseura is behind all this, I'm more than interested in knowing about his reasons. I already have a guess so I will just wait for next week to see if I'm right. Now on a side note, I'm also kinda disappointed with the whole "finding oneself in his own Well" omen. Since the beginning, they made it sound like something quite terrible might happen with that scenario but in the end, it didn't really cause any major complications for Narihisago's psyche. If anything, it actually helped him gaining more time for Hondoumachi to solve the mystery regarding John Walker's identity. Anyways, we have finally reached the final stretch of the story so let's see how things will conclude. |
| Hmm, i'm not really disappointed with the most obvious revelation regarding John Walker. Sometimes it's the journey that can pull it through and theirs been plenty of mystery in between finding out for sure. I think it's been worth that on that grounds alone so in the end I can't say im disappointed up til this point. Now on to see how this finishes up. |
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Hegar said: George R.R. Martin talked about "subverting expectations" in an interview. And it was a subtle dig at D&D who butchered Game of Thrones season 8 by doing anything to "subvert expectations," as if that would be clever in itself. I dunno, from what I understand books will have very similar ending to the show ending like Dany going mad and Bran becoming new king. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.123/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.231/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.141/? - weekly) | MAD (Ch.33/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.101/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.28/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| I knew it's chief Hayaseura, John Walker's design kinda gave it away. |
| Lets be honest we all knew who John walker was at least I knew that it was Chief but the real question is not who but why I mean what's his motive and point of this whole senario. There are alot of questions in my mind but I just hope they don't ruin the ending |
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| We're finally in the endgame, and I'm happy they went with the Chief. After all, if a plot twist was expected, that's because the groundwork was laid down well. I'm excited to learn his motive though, more than anything |
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| Fukuda’s intention was just a bluff, but his work with the numbers is insane. Well Hondomachi, you finally did it, not really surprised about Hayaseura being John Walker, and now that we discovered that he has Asukai, there’s a possibility for him to be in the dreams, which explains it, and Asukai being the origin of the mizuhanome is the reason why she always appear, I think. Now, Hayaseura is a mystery, why he did that, the only killers that they have caught are the ones created by him, there’s no success in that, the only way I can think is that he’s a serial killer too, and his modus operandi, as Hondomachi said, was by days of the week. Shirakoma, the inventor, was his victim too, or maybe part of the plan and they disagreed at some point. |
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| AMAZING EPISODE! And what a cliche. And the author probably love HOLES. |
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| Holy shit who would've thought the old chief was John Walker all along? That's crazy. Shit's gonna get real from this point on. |
| The anime got better near the end. The anime rule that says that character that never open their eyes are villain still hold true. |
 「 To other people, I might not have changed at all, but I feel like I was able to change... 」 |
| I knew it never trust those closed eyes characters! it was the chief after all, kinda hoped it wasn't as it would be too obvious as probably 80% of the people watching this could have guessed it. Curious to see how this is going to end in the next two episodes |
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| So it was the Chief all along, like a lot of people suspected here. I thought that it was too obvious, but I guess in a way that did put me off the trail lol Fukuda's character is growing on me. Doesn't change the fact that he's a serial killer, but I never expected that he'd be important to the endgame of the series when he was first introduced. Thought he was just going to be another serial killer and that'd be it. Hondoumachi is quite the detective. At first, I thought she was going to be the stupid character who gets herself into trouble again and again. But no, instead we get someone who's intelligent and solved the case. So that's why Kaeru/Asukai has always been in the dreams. A lot of the pieces are coming together, although not all of them have. And Kaeru is always dead to lead the brilliant detectives to the murderer, because the murderer always kills her in her dreams. I wonder what the Chief's motivation for this is, because as the chief of operations with the Mizuhanome, he sort of dug his own grave. I'm betting he knew this and did this on purpose for some reason. |
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| I just came here to post that John Walker was already confirmed at Episode 9. The climax is starting and the atmosphere is getting tense. I think it'll be my favorite. |
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| Well Momoki and Toga definitely bangin' lmao. I really like all the three detectives they're great characters. I think we can consider Fukuda a main character now as well don't we. I liked Hondomochi from the very beginning so her being the one to unravel John Walker was cool plus she lowkey thicc. 2 episodes left I wonder how this is going to go with Kiki Asukai. |
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| Those Anaido personality actually pretty fun. Except just fulfilled his role as the plot machine, his characterization surely amusing. Its not his bad scheme over the storm condition. Its just, he felt the previous sickness, wanted to died, even on that Ido-well, and did what he actually believed. Overall, he just a pyschopath that wanted to messed up with Narihisago mind. Lmao. I like their partnership, even in the whole crisis like that. At least his role be useful even after that plot setup. Or was that another designed setup already? So, for the short. Since the current Ido-well had a messed, its got syncronised by the previous Ido-well. The result? A clearance in the end, with another conclusion from another world. Yeah, nice Hondomachi, as expected as her title as the brilliant detective from the real world. She could revealed the true form of the John Walker! The explanations felt pretty heavy. But, i had a nice time to understand the whole meaning. Thanks to Anaido number sickness. Thanks to Hondomachi's perfect deduction skill. Thanks to Narihisago's painful daily life on that world. I hope my mind is right with that thanks thing. The brilliant detective not just a named! Lmao The next one, seems everyone just back to the real world. The real John Walker finally released his move. Its clearly a trapped from the director hinted previously. But, i don't even know his intentions with Kiki's body there. So, lets just see the next episode! |
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