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| Sweet ED - A happy happy future where gundams are no longer needed, and neither are clothes apparently. I guess they make love not war in the future. Nice! |
| Man, that "Macross Moment" from last episode is still bumming me down. I feel this series isn't going to live up to the awesomeness of the first season (apart from Graham and Tiera) |
| more about the ed. the arm that was cut off is a strong foreshadowing. figuratively setsuna almost got his arm cut off in season one when graham rammed his saber on the cockpit but somehow it didn't even blind him. maybe they'll do the same this time around and actually injure him physically. i would be shocked if graham dies in the next ep. it seems that his story arc is not going anywhere. therefore he is an expendable character. and talk about divine. this is bring v2 and he is more of an asshole than his twin. bring was quiet but was by far a superior pilot. too bad he got a surprise ass whooping. would love to see bring/divine combo. maybe in super robot wars or dynasty warriors gundam. |
| funniest moment= trans-grahAM, and it wasn't even part of the anime second funniest= setsuna collapsing in marina's arms, he looked pathetic (and a bit weird) allelujah: omg tieria just got zapped by that string thing, i'd better stay away from them--! Alexandro said: Sweet ED - A happy happy future where gundams are no longer needed, and neither are clothes apparently. I guess they make love not war in the future. Nice! in that case, there had better be a follow-up OVA |
| Loved the sniping part of lyle, beginning to like him alot, its cool hes following lockons footsteps, instead of going all" I hate to be in hes shadow" stuff. I really dont like Marina Ismail, never liked her. If shes suppose to be the new Lacus character she isnt doing a good job. I am much more interested in FeldtxLyle or LouisexSaji so didnt cared much for that part of this episode. Also about the innovators, I just cant stop thinking they (or atleast some) will turn out on the good side. It seems like Billy was having second doubts when it seemed CB and thus Kujo/Sumeragi were going to be wiped out. Kati Mannequin on the other hand was pretty spirited hehe. It sucks Setsuna is injured, now hes faces off with Graham and all...curious to see how it ends. p.s. it seems its tradition to say something about that translation thing so hate to break it (uhum): LOL OMFG funniest thing ever!!111! |
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| i cant wait for the next episode battle of the trans am's |
ephi said: funniest moment= trans-grahAM, and it wasn't even part of the anime second funniest= setsuna collapsing in marina's arms, he looked pathetic (and a bit weird) allelujah: omg tieria just got zapped by that string thing, i'd better stay away from them--! Alexandro said: Sweet ED - A happy happy future where gundams are no longer needed, and neither are clothes apparently. I guess they make love not war in the future. Nice! in that case, there had better be a follow-up OVA lol...they are transformed into GN Particles |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Tyrfing said: I think somebody already pull this one? Well who cares: MISTER BUSHIDO WENT TRANS-GRAHAM?! DOES THAT MEAN MR. BUSHIDO = GRAHAM WTF!? I so loled at the Trans-Graham. lol Yep :D I think I did that back in episode six, and got into a cockslapping fest with Frito. We need to do that again sometime, was hot. |
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| a devil's threesome is forbidden in africa baki!!! |
| NOBODY MENTIONED TIERIA BRINGING BLANKETS AND COVERING UP MILEINA?? That was the sweetest thing ever! I couldn't help it, when I saw who it was a big "awwww" escaped my mouth. If he dies I will cry forever. I lol'd at his "duahhh" when his lardbucket Gundam got kicked. Oh yeah, and when he turned around to point his gun at the Innovators in the ED. That was amazing. I don't have a character bias! What are you saying?! |
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Frito said: Well Ali's gun did release gn particles so yeah. It supports the idea even more. more about the ed. the arm that was cut off is a strong foreshadowing. figuratively setsuna almost got his arm cut off in season one when graham rammed his saber on the cockpit but somehow it didn't even blind him. maybe they'll do the same this time around and actually injure him physically. Frito said: But I like Graham :(i would be shocked if graham dies in the next ep. it seems that his story arc is not going anywhere. therefore he is an expendable character. Anyways killing off a char so early would create an uproar. |
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| RABU RABU DAKARA :3 boring episode + epic cliffhanger = RAEG |
逃げちゃ駄目だ。 |
windy said: not gonna happen.NOBODY MENTIONED TIERIA BRINGING BLANKETS AND COVERING UP MILEINA?? That was the sweetest thing ever! I couldn't help it, when I saw who it was a big "awwww" escaped my mouth. If he dies I will cry forever. I lol'd at his "duahhh" when his lardbucket Gundam got kicked. Oh yeah, and when he turned around to point his gun at the Innovators in the ED. That was amazing. I don't have a character bias! What are you saying?! |
| Should I be bracing myself for a Minmay Ranka....I mean Marina attack? Sigh, A-LAWS are still being the biggest fucking morons I've seen in recent memory and it just puts this show notches down in terms of character development. Jesus Fucking Christ, I can't believe how many tools can be gathered all in one isolated spot. well, at least there's something to look forward to in the next couple of episodes in this arc with the on-going coup. but that doesn't excuse the show for having one-dimensional characters. |
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| WTF where did he get that trans arm from??are they selling em in a store at the corner of a street?? I meanb that was supposed to be the ultra mega top secret ultimate weapon of celestial being....so they just saw it and then "oo yea i know how to do that too" c'mon that's not fair...Oh and there's another point i would like to talk about... when did she (louise) get those eyes?? -.- so you can become a "Inovator" just like that??.... Well nice ending anyway |
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Angelofspawn said: so you just assumed that billy katagiri was dumb as fuck all? i mean he is a scientist he'll find a way to understand how things work.WTF where did he get that trans arm from??are they selling em in a store at the corner of a street?? I meanb that was supposed to be the ultra mega top secret ultimate weapon of celestial being....so they just saw it and then "oo yea i know how to do that too" c'mon that's not fair...Oh and there's another point i would like to talk about... when did she (louise) get those eyes?? -.- so you can become a "Inovator" just like that??.... Well nice ending anyway |
Angelofspawn said: You're not giving the story a chance to explain itself.WTF where did he get that trans arm from??are they selling em in a store at the corner of a street?? I meanb that was supposed to be the ultra mega top secret ultimate weapon of celestial being....so they just saw it and then "oo yea i know how to do that too" c'mon that's not fair...Oh and there's another point i would like to talk about... when did she (louise) get those eyes?? -.- so you can become a "Inovator" just like that??.... Well nice ending anyway |
Frito said: Angelofspawn said: so you just assumed that billy katagiri was dumb as fuck all? i mean he is a scientist he'll find a way to understand how things work.WTF where did he get that trans arm from??are they selling em in a store at the corner of a street?? I meanb that was supposed to be the ultra mega top secret ultimate weapon of celestial being....so they just saw it and then "oo yea i know how to do that too" c'mon that's not fair...Oh and there's another point i would like to talk about... when did she (louise) get those eyes?? -.- so you can become a "Inovator" just like that??.... Well nice ending anyway Well If I remember well the "trans-am system" was the Ultimate weapon not even Veda had data about,the sientifics couldn't even make GN drivers by themselves they had to get em (from the inovators) So I cant imagine how someone guessed how trans-am worked if they couldn't even make "decent"mobile suits by themselves (by decent I mean something that wont lose to a gundam in 1 round,I'm not takin the pilot into consideration) |
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| veda has everything, it's just level whatever info of it was deleted hence ribbons couldn't have predicted its existence. billy again is eifman's prodigy and this is science. geez as long as you are willing to put the time and effort into finding out how things work you will eventually crack the code. trans-am is not like some over the top ideology in which only a super computer can manipulate. |
Frito said: Well, but not everyone could crack that code and Billy wasn't the one who cracked that code either. And Aifman was also the first person to figure out Aeolia's true plan. As for Trans-am, it is everything now for CB, without Trans-am and 00 there is nothing CB can accomplished by themselves because the world and technology are moving on.veda has everything, it's just level whatever info of it was deleted hence ribbons couldn't have predicted its existence. billy again is eifman's prodigy and this is science. geez as long as you are willing to put the time and effort into finding out how things work you will eventually crack the code. trans-am is not like some over the top ideology in which only a super computer can manipulate. |
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| um eifman is dead. he started it but it is not clear whether or not he got it before he died. hence against everyone's dismay billy will get the credit not eifman. he was the one who made it happen. so you are saying that ben franklin should be the one who should get full credit for making electric generators just because he found a way to conduct electricity? people who are involved also gets partial credits, heck graham should get one, he stole the beam saber for billy to further analyze. |
| the ending makes me all teary and fuzzy inside, with the anew x lyle relationship and the music sounds sad as if foreshadowing the deaths of some characters. :( |
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| I'm no scientist but if you think about basic tuning (take a car as an example), the more flow you got, the more punch it has. If Eifman figured out the basics of Trans-Am, it shouldn't be impossible for Billy to actually figure out a way to "tune" the GN Drive so it has a higher output of power when wanted but not just massing out GN particles but harnessing the power, making better use of the particles. He has after all been studying how it works since he got the gn saber. So technically it possible to achieve Trans-Am with a "false" GN Drive. Though how it works afterwards when Trans-Am is used is something else. Perhaps it shuts down until recharged or perhaps at a certain percent of power left, it turns of Trans-Am like the original GN Drives do. Hopefully, the suit shuts down completely just for a little twist and the increased risk of using it. Anyway, about the episode. I'm still annoyed by the fact that Hallelujah still hasn't come out. I though that Hallelujah would make an entrance judging by the fact that Allelujah said in the episode before this one that he would fight even without Hallelujah. I mean, come on. Do we need 00 going Trans-Am so the GN particles wakes up Hallelujah every time? That would be utter ridiculous. |
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| Going to have to assume that the Trans-Am from imitation GN-Drives have some sort of double-edged sword to it. I mean if it has the same cause and effect as genuine drives, then what's the point of even using a gundam anyway? It would make the other three gundams useless if the imitation drives can be tweaked to use Trans-AM in mass-produced units (as in mass produced GN drives). One good limitation I can see is if the fake drives can't recharge their GN particles in comparison to genuine drives (not sure if this was explained already). The Trans-Am would then be a desperation move that will either secure victory or make them a rather appealing target in the sky/ground. If the story leads to two factions duking it out with full-scale armies and such, then this might not be such a bad development after all. The two faction's fodder units can fight each other while we see some Trans-Am vs Trans-Am action. |
| I find this episode interesting. I'm curious how the coup is gonna affect the outcome of this conflict. Graham's (aka Mr. Bushido) MS is really, really ugly. However, is Setsuna gonna survive this battle?? |
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| What was with the ending lol Trans-GRAHam T_T he he ... but still the coup d'etat takes place, happens to save CB's ass and now Setsuna face off next ep ^^ |
ChinesePanda said: Red GN particles = pseudo GN Drive Green GN particles = GN Drive pseudo GN Drives can't produce GN particles and has to get them from an external source that can GN Drives can produce GN particles Trans-Graham releases all, i repeat, ALL GN particles at once to create blahblah 3 times the power etc. my point is...wtf? hows that going to work? its a huge risk isn't it? and omfg a-laws every single freaking unit with trans am.... They just single handedly made all their units weaker when Trans-AM times out XD. Over all I thought this episode was good. It still looks like the Gundam GN particles are the main plan CB was intended for. |
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Frito said: um eifman is dead. he started it but it is not clear whether or not he got it before he died. hence against everyone's dismay billy will get the credit not eifman. he was the one who made it happen. so you are saying that ben franklin should be the one who should get full credit for making electric generators just because he found a way to conduct electricity? people who are involved also gets partial credits, heck graham should get one, he stole the beam saber for billy to further analyze. Billy said he found the eifman's notes so if where going by real world standards here then eifman would get the credit and be written in history for coming up with the tech and specifications of a Trans-AM copy and Billy would get credit for actually making the suit with the tech in practical use. |
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DeathfireD said: real world standards vary. it's not copyrighted. and why get technical. it's billy's work paying off. i have notes for harry potter and i gave it to some lady named j.k. rowlings and she made it like 100 times better. should i still get all the credit or partial credit..Frito said: um eifman is dead. he started it but it is not clear whether or not he got it before he died. hence against everyone's dismay billy will get the credit not eifman. he was the one who made it happen. so you are saying that ben franklin should be the one who should get full credit for making electric generators just because he found a way to conduct electricity? people who are involved also gets partial credits, heck graham should get one, he stole the beam saber for billy to further analyze. Billy said he found the eifman's notes so if where going by real world standards here then eifman would get the credit and be written in history for coming up with the tech and specifications of a Trans-AM copy and Billy would get credit for actually making the suit with the tech in practical use. |
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| I have to disagree. I found the episode quite enjoyable. |
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| Great ED. Lol. |
| A coup d'etat at just the right timing.. In the end, the most unlucky individual would be Saji Crossroad. Thanks to a misunderstanding caused by Setsuna F. Seiei and the semi-false information that Louise had received, thinking that the A-Laws are the heroes have caused a possible consequence of poor Saji getting killed by his former fiancee. Ouch... |
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Fai said: SetsunaXMarina = WIN Setsuna's vision = WIN Coup = interesting Overall one of best episodes, just like in the first series Ep14-15 starts up a lot of interesting things, ED scenes being one of the most intriguing factors.... I agree. I loved that there was some down time for Marina and Setsuna to talk. The kids were cracking me up saying they were all "lovey dovey". His dream was great especially when Lockon showed up in it. The coup looks like it's going to make the next couple of episodes very interesting. ^_^ Stay alive, Setsuna! ^_^ |
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| <3 the new ED song. |
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| WOO I GOT AN APEARIENCE!!! (Graham yep thats my name ^_^) bahaha rather than the trans-grahAM... if their tactics chick is so good, why hasnt she stolen like a ton of the army's GN drives and got the guy who did DOUBLE 00's twin drive like put a bunch of em togeather to get 0000000000000000 drive, i mean it seems like the gundamns are constantly geting destroyed all the way down to their engines >.>... its obviously the engins that r the main bit, so why dont they get the military ones and link em togeather like with 00??? screw trans-grahAM's and 00's dual engines, what about 1 MILLION engines in their spaceship?? TENGENN-TOPPA GURRENN-GUNDAM GOOOOOOOOOOO~!!!!!!!11!!!!!~11!!!!!!!!!1!!! edit: i DARE any1 to tell me the GN engins dont look like drills!!! |
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| i prefer prototype rather than this ED.. setsunaxmarina=win :) setsuna using drugs yeahhh(and he has atleast 2 left in that 1st aid kit?¿) lets see how setsuna fight while druggy with a wounded arm, makes me remember wounded heero in heavy arms gundam vs zek or zeg markis in the one arm disabled talgueese in the artic xD from gundam wing |
| so the coup has started, yeah! big fight coming up i can feel it, unlike this episode where admittedly lockon got some good shots, but tieria andallelujah were about to get pwned, not good |
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| Trans-GRAHam rofl. But now the enemy has Trans-am too? Come on.... |
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| Trans GRAHam LMMMMAAAAOOOOOO!!! xDD New ED is love love looooooooooooovvve <33 2chan rumours need to die btw. ON WITH THE COUP! |
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| the 2nd ED... wow... sent shivers down my spine, loved how they molded scenes from ED1 into ED2... made it so much more epic. |
cheeky said: TRANS-GRAHAM! <_< LOL. I always LOL when Graham talks to Setsuna. It almost sounds like he's hitting on him. XD |
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| I always jizz when Graham talks. Is this normal? |
| Bwhahaha TRANS-GRAHAM ftw! |
| Ah, finally... some SetsunaxMarina scenes. They're just so cute *o* |
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| Good episode, I didn't like that the A-Laws just left after having the Celestial Beings almost dead (you would think that destroying them would be a priority) especially since they just had them on stand-by after they retreated. I love the ending song. |
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