Obama vs McCain: Who are you voting for?
Barack Obama
66.8%
290
John McCain
21.0%
91
Other. Please explain.
12.2%
53
434 votes
4saken said: Based on the comments here all I can say is debating politics on a site whose members all have just the single common interest of liking Anime is not a good thing. All this is propagating is hate and segregation. It's like this through most of the internet, occasionally you'll find someone reasonable to have a discussion with, or who doesn't deal in absolutes (but rather recognizes shades of grey), and then you can have some constructive discourse. Between those moments, it's just fun to poke fun at people like that animematt55 guy. At first I thought he was just a troll, but now I'm not so sure. Hey I know, here's a game. Every time he uses the term "nanny-state" "police-state" or "CAPS A WORD FOR EMPHASIS," we take a drink. On second thought, that might not be such a good idea, I have work in the morning. |
animematt55 said: You mean cause I don't roll over and do what ever the government wants? That I don't want my hard earned money paying for some low life? I don't know about you, but I like my freedom. I like working for myself and not street trash. You'd rather have that money spent killing some child in the middle east because their skin is brown and there's oil underneath that plot of sand they call home? |
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animematt55 said: Kaplan said: Between those moments, it's just fun to poke fun at people like that animematt55 guy. At first I thought he was just a troll, but now I'm not so sure. On second thought, that might not be such a good idea, I have work in the morning. You mean cause I don't roll over and do what ever the government wants? That I don't want my hard earned money paying for some low life? I don't know about you, but I like my freedom. I like working for myself and not street trash. what i would like to know, is who exactly are the people that you are referring to as street trash?  |
marukawa said: animematt55 said: what i would like to know, is who exactly are the people that you are referring to as street trash? Street Gangs generally. Bloods Crips, MS13 or what ever. gangster disciples. Not to mention the chav types. |
animematt55 said: marukawa said: animematt55 said: what i would like to know, is who exactly are the people that you are referring to as street trash? Street Gangs generally. Bloods Crips, MS13 or what ever. gangster disciples. Not to mention the chav types. well, no one gives money to those people, anyway.  i don't think any of those kind of people even worry about getting money from the govt in the first place. |
animematt55 said: StephanBlackhawk said: I choose COLBERT! Why is being a Communist a bad thing? You offend me sir. Cause it is. You want America to end up like old China or Russia? FORCED to work a terrible job? Or how about FORCED to give up half of what you worked to earn cause street trash refuse to work? That is what Obama wants. He wants to take money from you and give it to the lazy street trash. Communism leads to nanny police states, where the police constantly monitor you, and you are forced to consent to illegal search and seizures at random. Did you know that in the UK, you can be stopped and search by the police for no reason? They are also one of the only countries where standard police patrol with submachine guns. Do you want that? I don't. You do realize that not everybody in the street is "Lazy". Many families have been but on the street due to the goverment. Or some have born on the streets or put out on the streets by families who didn't want them. To say everyone one on the street is lazy is a sterotype. |
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animematt55 said: marukawa said: i don't think any of those kind of people even worry about getting money from the govt in the first place. Well, a certain person that is running for president wants to. SOme crying about inner city kids needing help. Honestly...where do you think all the welfare money he collects will go? It will go to the trash that refuses to work and spends his life of crime on the streets. People like that really need to be done away with, cause you can't rehabilitate someone that was never habilitated. Have you grown up in the inner city? I'm going to say no with the stuff you are saying. Many people haven't had the proper education that people in the suburbs have. I can say this because one I use to live in the inner city ON WELFARE, and without it, I would be not where I am right now. Not all people on welfare are uneducated or lazy. My parents lost there jobs and had to work for many years in minimum wage places because they couldn't find jobs that would hire them. If we didn't have welfare we couldn't pay apartments/houses, or to put food on the table. When my parents finally got a proper and upscale job we moved to the suburbs which I noticed the education was much better. My friend without education you are nothing. And people in the inner city are getting nothing with the way the current goverment is treating them. Not everyone on welfare is lazy. Without welfare many people who die, and there would be more homeless people on the street. I think Obama is more focused on minorites, and helping them. |
StephanBlackhawkJul 9, 2008 9:31 PM
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crowslayer91 said: Thanks Crow T____________T |
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animematt55 said: marukawa said: i don't think any of those kind of people even worry about getting money from the govt in the first place. Well, a certain person that is running for president wants to. SOme crying about inner city kids needing help. Honestly...where do you think all the welfare money he collects will go? It will go to the trash that refuses to work and spends his life of crime on the streets. People like that really need to be done away with, cause you can't rehabilitate someone that was never habilitated. "crime" this, "crime" that. this isn't about crime. i don't know where you're getting that idea from. not everyone on the streets is into crime, yannou. oh, btw: it's "because", not "cause". sorry. it's just really annoying to me.  |
animematt55 said: blueberryboat said: animematt55 said: You mean cause I don't roll over and do what ever the government wants? That I don't want my hard earned money paying for some low life? I don't know about you, but I like my freedom. I like working for myself and not street trash. You'd rather have that money spent killing some child in the middle east because their skin is brown and there's oil underneath that plot of sand they call home? Better than giving it to some punk on the street that will buy a black market glock and use it to kill an innocent kid for his playstation. Also...the only kids that are being killed in the middle east are the ones that are killed by suicide bombers. They are killing each other so fast i am surprised they have anyone left. Been like that for years. Dude... you have been so brainwashed. |
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| Undecided on who, but voting 3rd party. Why support the tyrannical two-party system? |
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| This election, i don't think i can cast my vote... There's no way in hell i'd vote for McCain, no sir, no no. then we'd repeat the whole bush thing all over again. However, Obama seems too easy going for a leader for a whole nation...idk...he seems like he's taking the fate of our nation too... casually. |
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| I can't vote, but if I could, I would vote for Obama. McCain my dear, not everything is about the war in Iraq. |
mr_utopia_man said: Undecided on who, but voting 3rd party. Why support the tyrannical two-party system? Theres that libertarian party. |
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StephanBlackhawk said: mr_utopia_man said: Undecided on who, but voting 3rd party. Why support the tyrannical two-party system? Theres that libertarian party. True. Or the greens, or the socialists, or the independents, and probably several more that aren't coming to mind. There's the "constitutionalists" too... though I think I'd sooner be shot than see them gain influence. -_- |
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| oh also this made me laugh <stephanblackhawk> why is being a communist a bad thing? you offend me sir. <anime matt guy> cause it is. LOL? ON TOPIC: this also amused me: # Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. obama <3 |
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TheWestExit said: I am voting for the right choice. I think that's the best choice. Really funny, to read all this here. Being controlled by prejudices is a great thing, isn't it? |
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Forever said: TheWestExit said: I am voting for the right choice. I think that's the best choice. Really funny, to read all this here. Being controlled by prejudices is a great thing, isn't it? Who's being controlled by prejudice? |
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| Somewhat undecided but a fair chance I would go with Nader again. The one site listed to test which candidate to maybe go for seemed to suggest McCain. blueberryboat said: Ralph Nader is a creepy little gremlin and if it wasn't for him George Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000. If it wasn't for people voting for Bush and the Florida fiasco George Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000. Fang-tan said: ...But I'm pretty sure [Obama's] not what he seems. Antichrist? |
mr_utopia_man said: animematt55 said: blueberryboat said: animematt55 said: You mean cause I don't roll over and do what ever the government wants? That I don't want my hard earned money paying for some low life? I don't know about you, but I like my freedom. I like working for myself and not street trash. You'd rather have that money spent killing some child in the middle east because their skin is brown and there's oil underneath that plot of sand they call home? Better than giving it to some punk on the street that will buy a black market glock and use it to kill an innocent kid for his playstation. Also...the only kids that are being killed in the middle east are the ones that are killed by suicide bombers. They are killing each other so fast i am surprised they have anyone left. Been like that for years. Dude... you have been so brainwashed. I don't see why you can't be considered brainwashed. I neither see why people like you are so blind not to notice this endless debate. One side calls the other brainwashed, the other side calls them brainwashed in return. Both sides think they do any good, and both sides think the other's should join them or fuck off. Trust me, both sides have pro's and con's, none of them are perfect, and the only thing you can do is act mature and take the outcome as it is, or fight for your opinion in a mature way. Because the endless 'yes it's true!' and 'no it's not!' should have been over long ago on the moment when you hit the age of 10. |
| Okay, first off, I'm for nether. I'm independent. Secondly, I am absolutely serious about what I'm about to tell you here. I am not kidding you. And I have many people and reference to prove it with. Obama is the Anti-Christ. In the bible, it talks about the Anti-Christ rising to power. That it acts really nice and beautiful at first, but later it turns out to be a really evil thing and wants to destroy humanity. Obama is seeming nice at first, but his evil side is already showing. I dunno if anyone saw the video the government is trying to hide on the internet about where Obama is saying he is going to cut our defenses to leave us open to attack and ban nuclear testing. That would obliterate the idea that we're a superpower of the world now that all these other countries have nuclear missles. Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I really don't know that much about it, but that year is within Obama's term and near the end. At the end, I know he's going to do something despicable. |
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Where0Meets15 said: Somewhat undecided but a fair chance I would go with Nader again. The one site listed to test which candidate to maybe go for seemed to suggest McCain. blueberryboat said: Ralph Nader is a creepy little gremlin and if it wasn't for him George Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000. If it wasn't for people voting for Bush and the Florida fiasco George Bush wouldn't have been elected in 2000. Fang-tan said: ...But I'm pretty sure [Obama's] not what he seems. Antichrist? Haha. I joke about that with my friends and family all the time. |
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crowslayer91 said: Ehm no i just wouldn't want to make war with another regime that America itself put into power, and now trades with like mad.Lofoc said: you're just a liberal who's soft on terrorismWell i would vote for Obame since we don't need to have allot more wars..^^; but we want the oil. and what we want. we get +___________+ *salutes the flag you may vote for Mr. Hussein. i'd stick with mccain. But yeah i guess that America would get most of the rest of the world against it by doing that. And i even if alternative for Mccain was called Ali Bin Douchebag, i don't care whats his name is as long as is a good president. |
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Virgil said: Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I really don't know that much about it, but that year is within Obama's term and near the end. At the end, I know he's going to do something despicable. Oh man, that's priceless. Thanks for the good laugh, awesome way to start the day. And if you really were serious, I hope someday when you're older you can look back on yourself and chuckle too. Chavez said: Trust me, both sides have pro's and con's, none of them are perfect, and the only thing you can do is act mature and take the outcome as it is, or fight for your opinion in a mature way. Because the endless 'yes it's true!' and 'no it's not!' should have been over long ago on the moment when you hit the age of 10. Sad thing is, when you watch the news networks it's the exact same thing, they just use a wider vocabulary and ambiguous arguments. Couple this with a poorly educated (and that doesn't mean "dumb") populace, and you've a society that, on the whole, makes uninformed decisions (all the while patting themselves on the back for doing a great job). |
Virgil said: Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I want some sources on this. Some scholarly papers. It sounds too awesome to miss. |
| No, lol, I only like to joke about it. And the scholarly work is in a book that one of my ex's tried to show me, but it scared me and I broke up with her. Another reason was because she thought she had psychic powers. |
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Virgil said: No, lol, I only like to joke about it. And the scholarly work is in a book that one of my ex's tried to show me, but it scared me and I broke up with her. Another reason was because she thought she had psychic powers. Was she fine? |
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Virgil said: These "scholars" are basing their findings on astrology, mythology, and the Mayan/Aztec calendar. I've seen some videos that these people have put out (if I can find them, I'll link to them), and they're just ludicrous.Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. Back on topic, because I have conservative political leanings, I'll vote McCain. He has a lot of experience in the senate and a history of service. I like his stance on some things, but he's far from perfect. |
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Virgil said: Okay, first off, I'm for nether. I'm independent. Secondly, I am absolutely serious about what I'm about to tell you here. I am not kidding you. And I have many people and reference to prove it with. Obama is the Anti-Christ. In the bible, it talks about the Anti-Christ rising to power. That it acts really nice and beautiful at first, but later it turns out to be a really evil thing and wants to destroy humanity. Obama is seeming nice at first, but his evil side is already showing. I dunno if anyone saw the video the government is trying to hide on the internet about where Obama is saying he is going to cut our defenses to leave us open to attack and ban nuclear testing. That would obliterate the idea that we're a superpower of the world now that all these other countries have nuclear missles. Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I really don't know that much about it, but that year is within Obama's term and near the end. At the end, I know he's going to do something despicable. The bible also says to stone gays and grow a beard. animematt55 said: I really do not like McCain either. The Hussien Obama group are always trying to peg him as a "Bush jr" or "Bush III". Not true. Sure McCain wants to stay in Iraq longer. But guess what? Staying in Iraq is something we may have to do. See, it is the parents responsibility when their kid makes a mistake. Well Bush is our kid, and now we have to clean it up. Picking up and leaving now like Hussein wants to do will end up causing more problems in the long run. McCain has a lot more experience though. Obama couldnt even run one state. What makes you think he can run a country? He is a racist, elitist that wants to get rid of the constitution, and leave America open to attack. So...lesser of two evils. So that is McCain. He's Racist? He's white and black. I don't see how he can be a racist. As a person who is mixed with black, white and asian, I find it hard to be a racist. McCain would just be more years of war. McCain was in Vietnam and thought that war had a purpose which it didn't It's like the Iraq war in which theres no point and nobody is going to win. McCain voted into going into a Iraq and incase none of you Americans have noticed, pretty much every country hates you for doing that. |
StephanBlackhawkJul 10, 2008 1:59 PM
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StephanBlackhawk said: Virgil said: Okay, first off, I'm for nether. I'm independent. Secondly, I am absolutely serious about what I'm about to tell you here. I am not kidding you. And I have many people and reference to prove it with. Obama is the Anti-Christ. In the bible, it talks about the Anti-Christ rising to power. That it acts really nice and beautiful at first, but later it turns out to be a really evil thing and wants to destroy humanity. Obama is seeming nice at first, but his evil side is already showing. I dunno if anyone saw the video the government is trying to hide on the internet about where Obama is saying he is going to cut our defenses to leave us open to attack and ban nuclear testing. That would obliterate the idea that we're a superpower of the world now that all these other countries have nuclear missles. Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I really don't know that much about it, but that year is within Obama's term and near the end. At the end, I know he's going to do something despicable. The bible also says to stone gays and grow a beard. Have you read all of the bible sir? |
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Gunbladewarrior said: StephanBlackhawk said: Virgil said: Okay, first off, I'm for nether. I'm independent. Secondly, I am absolutely serious about what I'm about to tell you here. I am not kidding you. And I have many people and reference to prove it with. Obama is the Anti-Christ. In the bible, it talks about the Anti-Christ rising to power. That it acts really nice and beautiful at first, but later it turns out to be a really evil thing and wants to destroy humanity. Obama is seeming nice at first, but his evil side is already showing. I dunno if anyone saw the video the government is trying to hide on the internet about where Obama is saying he is going to cut our defenses to leave us open to attack and ban nuclear testing. That would obliterate the idea that we're a superpower of the world now that all these other countries have nuclear missles. Scholars are also predicting how the world is going to end in 2012. I really don't know that much about it, but that year is within Obama's term and near the end. At the end, I know he's going to do something despicable. The bible also says to stone gays and grow a beard. Have you read all of the bible sir? It's lady to you. I've gone to a Catholic school for pretty much 90% of my life. I have read the whole old testament and revalations. |
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Ryderj said: QFT, I would HATE a republican in the house atm. -.-If McCain wins, I lose all faith in my country. That's all I'll say for now. |
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animematt55 said: StephanBlackhawk said: [ He's Racist? He's white and black. I don't see how he can be a racist. As a person who is mixed with black, white and asian, I find it hard to be a racist. McCain would just be more years of war. McCain was in Vietnam and thought that war had a purpose which it didn't It's like the Iraq war in which theres no point and nobody is going to win. McCain voted into going into a Iraq and incase none of you Americans have noticed, pretty much every country hates you for doing that. yes he is racist. Doesn't matter what color his mommy and daddy were. He is also VERY scetchy on Iraq. He sys he wants to pull all troops...then says some troops, then leave a few for security...He changes his mind to suit who whoever is hearing him. The man has no backbone, he is a blatant liar, and is more "wishy washy" than Kerry. He would say he would kill your grandmother if it got him your vote. More on Obama # Illegals shouldn't work; but should have path to citizenship. (Dec 2007) Support granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007) Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008) Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007) Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006) Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006) The guy wants anyone into the country. That is a major security concern. Do you know how most of the 9/11 Highjackers got into the county? Through mexico. Wall that place of, and put machine guns there! You do realize YOUR ECONOMY WOULD BE NOTHING WITH OUT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! If you take them out, your countries economy is going to get worse. They take the jobs that nobody wants. |
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StephanBlackhawk said: animematt55 said: StephanBlackhawk said: [ He's Racist? He's white and black. I don't see how he can be a racist. As a person who is mixed with black, white and asian, I find it hard to be a racist. McCain would just be more years of war. McCain was in Vietnam and thought that war had a purpose which it didn't It's like the Iraq war in which theres no point and nobody is going to win. McCain voted into going into a Iraq and incase none of you Americans have noticed, pretty much every country hates you for doing that. yes he is racist. Doesn't matter what color his mommy and daddy were. He is also VERY scetchy on Iraq. He sys he wants to pull all troops...then says some troops, then leave a few for security...He changes his mind to suit who whoever is hearing him. The man has no backbone, he is a blatant liar, and is more "wishy washy" than Kerry. He would say he would kill your grandmother if it got him your vote. More on Obama # Illegals shouldn't work; but should have path to citizenship. (Dec 2007) Support granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007) Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008) Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007) Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006) Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006) The guy wants anyone into the country. That is a major security concern. Do you know how most of the 9/11 Highjackers got into the county? Through mexico. Wall that place of, and put machine guns there! You do realize YOUR ECONOMY WOULD BE NOTHING WITH OUT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! If you take them out, your countries economy is going to get worse. They take the jobs that nobody wants. Are you kidding me? Nothing? Yeah we sure took a hit when the illegals supposedly went on strike. People act as if they're not doing it then no one will The main reason most Americans refuse to do those jobs are for the simple fact that the wages are too low. That day still pisses me off where people come here illegally and then demand rights. |
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| For those of you who may get incensed by some (or all) of animematt55's statements, the following might help. He's either a clever troll or really believes what he spouts - in which case nothing anyone says will make a difference. |
Gunbladewarrior said: Are you kidding me? Nothing? Yeah we sure took a hit when the illegals supposedly went on strike. People act as if they're not doing it then no one will The main reason most Americans refuse to do those jobs are for the simple fact that the wages are too low. That day still pisses me off where people come here illegally and then demand rights. You are right. In fact, the day illegals went on strike....the only thing that went down was theft. What pissed me off is that we had all those illegals waving signs in the streets. Ok...we found the illegals. Now either execute them, or kick them out. Kaplan said: For those of you who may get incensed by some (or all) of animematt55's statements, the following might help. He's either a clever troll or really believes what he spouts - in which case nothing anyone says will make a difference. Not trolling. Just pointing out facts. Just cause someone points out the facts that your boy Hussein is a lieing cheating commie doesn't mean they are trolling. It means they are pointing to facts. |
Gunbladewarrior said: StephanBlackhawk said: animematt55 said: StephanBlackhawk said: [ He's Racist? He's white and black. I don't see how he can be a racist. As a person who is mixed with black, white and asian, I find it hard to be a racist. McCain would just be more years of war. McCain was in Vietnam and thought that war had a purpose which it didn't It's like the Iraq war in which theres no point and nobody is going to win. McCain voted into going into a Iraq and incase none of you Americans have noticed, pretty much every country hates you for doing that. yes he is racist. Doesn't matter what color his mommy and daddy were. He is also VERY scetchy on Iraq. He sys he wants to pull all troops...then says some troops, then leave a few for security...He changes his mind to suit who whoever is hearing him. The man has no backbone, he is a blatant liar, and is more "wishy washy" than Kerry. He would say he would kill your grandmother if it got him your vote. More on Obama # Illegals shouldn't work; but should have path to citizenship. (Dec 2007) Support granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007) Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008) Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007) Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006) Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006) The guy wants anyone into the country. That is a major security concern. Do you know how most of the 9/11 Highjackers got into the county? Through mexico. Wall that place of, and put machine guns there! You do realize YOUR ECONOMY WOULD BE NOTHING WITH OUT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! If you take them out, your countries economy is going to get worse. They take the jobs that nobody wants. Are you kidding me? Nothing? Yeah we sure took a hit when the illegals supposedly went on strike. People act as if they're not doing it then no one will The main reason most Americans refuse to do those jobs are for the simple fact that the wages are too low. That day still pisses me off where people come here illegally and then demand rights. I thought your country was about freedom and love. BS! You guys like anyone who is White and rich. I say If the mexicans were white you guys wouldn't care. Yes, they TAKE THE JOBS THAT HAVE LOW WAGES! Those jobs are important. They may be crappy but they are important. I didn't mean to say nothing I meant to say it would suffer alot. Here is an estimate of how much you guys lose: Aren't you guys already in debt of like a trillion dollars? animematt55 said: Gunbladewarrior said: Are you kidding me? Nothing? Yeah we sure took a hit when the illegals supposedly went on strike. People act as if they're not doing it then no one will The main reason most Americans refuse to do those jobs are for the simple fact that the wages are too low. That day still pisses me off where people come here illegally and then demand rights. You are right. In fact, the day illegals went on strike....the only thing that went down was theft. What pissed me off is that we had all those illegals waving signs in the streets. Ok...we found the illegals. Now either execute them, or kick them out. And you call Obama a racist? |
StephanBlackhawkJul 10, 2008 4:40 PM
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