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Jun 20, 2011 2:23 PM

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Meh I don't care I'll still watch it anyways just to check it out, but I do love the character designs for the guys though.

I don't see why people are bitching the same thing happens here in the US if the content is too bad for TV its censored or edited then when the DVD boxsets get released its uncensored and unedited. Unless you guys are just too impatient to wait for your precious uncensored animu.

At least it is getting an uncensored version, but the question is will it be restricted to the 18+ section?
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Jun 20, 2011 2:29 PM

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STM said:
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MAL: Where people can't enjoy an anime because they see a characters panties

And I thought /a/ was bad

BOOBS AND PANTIES WILL GUARANTEE HIGH SALES RITE GUISE LOL XDDDDD
Not.


Except they do. Any show with fanservice has a much higher chance of making profit than one that doesn't. It makes perfect financial sense to have fanservice. And even more financial sense to have uncensored episodes on the BDs since that is also a proven tactic for extra BD sales.

You might not like it, but the whole point of anime is to make money.. its a business. This makes them extra money.

Jun 20, 2011 2:37 PM

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RyanSaotome said:
STM said:
RyanSaotome said:
MAL: Where people can't enjoy an anime because they see a characters panties

And I thought /a/ was bad

BOOBS AND PANTIES WILL GUARANTEE HIGH SALES RITE GUISE LOL XDDDDD
Not.


Except they do. Any show with fanservice has a much higher chance of making profit than one that doesn't. It makes perfect financial sense to have fanservice. And even more financial sense to have uncensored episodes on the BDs since that is also a proven tactic for extra BD sales.

You might not like it, but the whole point of anime is to make money.. its a business. This makes them extra money.

No. Fanservice in plot/story-driven shows do NOT increase BD/DVD sales. It didn't work with LOL Heroes, it didn't work with Umineko no Naku Koro ni, it didn't work with Shiki, it didn't work with ChäoS;HEAd, it didn't work with 11eyes but C;H and 11eyes were just shit -- well, you catch my drift, don't you? These are all shows that have a resemblance of a great story and they all sold like shit. That shows that the random fanservice did not raise the overall BD/DVD sales.
A show with a GOOD story does NOT need fanservice, it mostly ruins the experience.
I'm not saying fanservice is a bad thing. Hey, I too enjoy ecchi shows once in a while or some small fanservice in, for example, Steins;Gate, but ZEXCS is overdoing this, especially since the source material doesn't contain any fanservice at all.
Jun 20, 2011 2:39 PM
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The fact is everyone must understand that if you havent noticed the heavier the censoring has become as the july deadline gets closer, similar to how in the US the ratings systems occurred that will most likely occur in Japan. The reason behind my statement is that similar laws in the US changed how we watched television here and Japan is catching up in terms of censoring, the new law if no one has noticed mirrors similar law we have the the US. Two things are going to occur, one anime will become garbage similar to how USA has cartoons on TV which are so fluffy and more story based and two most anime will likely become Internet only or straight to DVD once censoring becomes more strictor. We use to be similar to japan with cartoons showing sex, smoking and a whole alot of stuff remember the old tom and jerries and old bugs bunny and so forth. Anime will simply adapt the internet is not something new and most likely as TV stations and laws become strictor in JAPAN anime will simply move towards the Internet and rely on internet advertising for revenue and also go straight to DVD. How much does everyone want to bet that everyone of these studios will do internet only productions of favorite animes in the coming years, they already started with some series with web only episodes, its only a matter of time before whole season go straight to internet and they completly ignore TV stations, there will be anime on tokyo TV but eventually they will be strict as it is in the US. TWO theory, animes seasons straight to internet or straight to blue ray
Jun 20, 2011 3:15 PM

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Whole lotta mad in this thread.

Who cares? It looks like yet another mediocre LN adaptation that will sell poorly and be forgotten in a few weeks anyways. This is even worse than people complaining about the CGI dragons in Game of Thrones last night.
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Jun 20, 2011 3:16 PM

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Thanks for posting the link to the clip..
Jun 20, 2011 3:28 PM
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Hoppy said:
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Edit: You're also nuts if you think Ishihara cares one bit about "serious anime". He'd as soon see it all banned if it got him more votes with intolerant senior citizens. He's not on your side.


Never thought that way. But I think of him as a fellow lolicon hater:)

Edit: And yeah, I think to like something so stupid stupid as Seikon no Qwaser or Queen's Blade you have to be a pretty tasteless person.


Ishihara's only objective is to restrict all manga and ban all anime from TV. He will only bring you misery no matter what genre of anime or manga you like. Even if you don't like these you are guaranteed misery, look what he said about the earthquake and tsunami victims, he wanted them to die.


EH!!! What do you mean by that and why would he said that anyway???


For the anime/manga topic: Ishihara thinks otaku have flawed DNA and such and that those media are bad for kids and teens.

The Earthquake deal is just because he is an insensitive asshole, hopefully karma will hit him for that comment. He doesn't like anyone he only likes his seat in office, he doesn't care if everyone suffers as long he has his seat for life.


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Jun 20, 2011 3:45 PM

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Why re they producing this kinds of anime i wonder who is watchin them ? they re annoyyinggggg
Jun 20, 2011 4:06 PM

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i think they should remove this anime completly, just more pointless shows with fan-service
Jun 20, 2011 4:32 PM

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Why re they producing this kinds of anime i wonder who is watchin them ? they re annoyyinggggg


They are producing them because ecchi shows sell well with little risk.

Jun 20, 2011 4:57 PM

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ill wait for the uncensored version then xD or at least ATX will air a less censored version

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Jun 20, 2011 5:45 PM

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Hachiya said ecchi and violent factors were indispensable for the entertainment of Itsu Ten anime

lol, aka that's all this show has got going for it
Jun 20, 2011 5:50 PM

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with the way youtube has been, a video featuring a guy mowing his lawn will eventually get pulled down. why? just because.

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First episode rejected I'm shocked, somethings going to tell me that this will be censored more than Qwaser and Kojika combined.


speaking as someone whose read the manga, i doubt it. speaking of which, since they added pointless panty shots, what would they do? just a thought, i for one am very hesitant on how the anime will come out.
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Jun 20, 2011 7:35 PM
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OMG DAT ENGLISH.

This controversy only made me notice it and immediately like it.
Jun 20, 2011 7:43 PM
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God damn ZEXCS, ruining a great series with this mindless fanservice. As it's been said, there is no fanservice in the LN, or even the manga as far as I've read. It's all a complete abuse of a great work with the intention of trying to make more money, all at the cost of the true fans' expectations.

It's crap like this that pushes potential viewers away from something that might be otherwise worth watching. As a faithful fan though, I'll watch it just to see how it goes.

To have it out there though, the notion that Itsuka is anything like Quasar is absolute bullshit. And to anyone who's actually read the original work, as some here have, I'm sure you know just how laughable such a comparison is.

As for YT; well, it is their site after all, so they can do what they want to with it. Needless to say, they haven't even gotten rid of all the videos yet, if they ever get around to it. >>
Jun 20, 2011 8:18 PM

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his controversy only made me notice it and immediately like it.

this if someone makes a cotroversy over something itll immediatly get attention and people will watch it...
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Jun 20, 2011 8:50 PM
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Say whatever you want but you cannot deny the fact that reproduction is the sole biological purpose of living.


That's subjective interpretation, nothing more and nothing less. It's true that humanity is instilled with a biological desire to reproduce, however that does not mean it is our sole purpose in living.

We're all humans and fully capable of making our own decisions in life, and if I don't feel like I want to have a child, then it's damn well within my rights to follow through with that decision.

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Oh please. As a species, humanity has hit a point where procreation can be a choice, not a fundamental biological necessity that every individual must engage in. Really, the last thing we want (given overpopulation and limited resources) is every single person on this planet reproducing. Spare me this "lol genetic imperative, if you don't make babies you're defective" bullshit like something you just heard in some conservative high school freshmen biology class.


Well said.
Jun 20, 2011 9:44 PM

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Personally I had no idea what this was beforehand but it looks awesome.
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Jun 20, 2011 10:28 PM

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What a shame. :(
Jun 20, 2011 11:00 PM

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Personally I had no idea what this was beforehand but it looks awesome.


Basically this. It was the loli pantsu from the trailer that interested me in it.

And remember people, Legend of the Legendary Heroes sold like SHIT. It lost them money, so if they did another adaption similar to it, they needed to throw in stuff that'll help it sell... like fanservice.

But of course, people never understand the financial situations behind the anime, and just like to find stuff to cry about without understanding why its like that.
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Jun 21, 2011 2:57 AM

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But of course, people never understand the financial situations behind the anime, and just like to find stuff to cry about without understanding why its like that.
Actually, it is perfectly understandable that they'd need to get some money.
What I don't understand is why people would sooner buy a show so full of fanservice that the plit can hardly be seen at all, rather than buying a show with an amazing plot.
There've been way too many good shows that sold like crap simply because they didn't have enough fanservice.
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Jun 21, 2011 3:35 AM

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But of course, people never understand the financial situations behind the anime, and just like to find stuff to cry about without understanding why its like that.
Actually, it is perfectly understandable that they'd need to get some money.
What I don't understand is why people would sooner buy a show so full of fanservice that the plit can hardly be seen at all, rather than buying a show with an amazing plot.
There've been way too many good shows that sold like crap simply because they didn't have enough fanservice.


The current person who is willing to shell out 80 dollars for 2 episodes is the hardcore otaku. They don't watch anime for deep plots or anything. These are the people who have their 2D waifus and tons of figurines, posters and body pillows of anime girls. So they are the ones who are buying anime, and they want cute girls and fanservice more than deep plots.

In any industry, you need to pander to the people who are your main customers. For anime, its the otaku.

Jun 21, 2011 3:39 AM

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seriously.... how bad will the ecchi and violent factors get to violent the 'guideline', with this anime of this level
Jun 21, 2011 12:08 PM

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I am not a bit shocked because YouTube removes just about everything nowadays


QFT

I don't really like the ecchi stuff, but I might take a look at it because of the bishie(s)... xD
Jun 21, 2011 12:30 PM

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I'm not trying to say the best selling shows are fanservice ridden... just that if you look over all the sales, more often than not a fanservice show will make profit by being in the 5-7k range. So adding fanservice is a low risk + high reward kind of venture, since it'll guarantee extra sales with little drawbacks.

Which is something a show like Tenma needs. Legend of the Legendary Heroes, which is the same author and studio, sold about 1k per volume. Thats absolutely horrible. So the obvious solution for a show similar to it is to add stuff that'll help the overall sales... like fanservice and uncensored BD episodes. With those, it may be able to get over the manabi line and be a profitable show.

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I'm not trying to say the best selling shows are fanservice ridden... just that if you look over all the sales, more often than not a fanservice show will make profit by being in the 5-7k range. So adding fanservice is a low risk + high reward kind of venture, since it'll guarantee extra sales with little drawbacks.

Which is something a show like Tenma needs. Legend of the Legendary Heroes, which is the same author and studio, sold about 1k per volume. Thats absolutely horrible. So the obvious solution for a show similar to it is to add stuff that'll help the overall sales... like fanservice and uncensored BD episodes. With those, it may be able to get over the manabi line and be a profitable show.


I'd like to hear just how you think "Itsuka Tenma" and "Legend of the Legendary Heroes" are similar, because from where I'm standing, other than being works by the same author, the stories themselves are near completely different.

Bearing this in mind, it would seem to me that they're simply taking a new initiative on a work by the same author simply because another didn't do near as well as they hoped. Presumptuous, to say the least.
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RyanSaotome said:
Which is something a show like Tenma needs. Legend of the Legendary Heroes, which is the same author and studio, sold about 1k per volume. Thats absolutely horrible. So the obvious solution for a show similar to it is to add stuff that'll help the overall sales... like fanservice and uncensored BD episodes. With those, it may be able to get over the manabi line and be a profitable show.

Y'know, the reason why LOL Heroes sold so terribly isn't because it didn't have any fanservice, it's mostly because of its incomprehensible story at times because they tried to adapt 11 novels in 24 episodes of 20 minutes, which is impossible. Absolutely impossible, I don't know what the hell they were thinking. They even decided to add an incredibly rushed version of the first few chapters of the sequel novels in the last episode.
They just completely raped the source material. The novels were actually selling very well, and apparently the anime also increased the sales of the sequel novels.
If ZEXCS wants better sales, they should put some more effort into adapting the source material into a good anime that both the anime-only viewers and the original light novel reads will appreciate.
But I agree that it's easier to just add panty shots to every scene. That hardly takes any effort.
Jun 25, 2011 2:39 PM

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"Remove" is just the dislike button for Youtube admins.

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Damn it, YouTube!
I'm getting really annoyed by them with the stupid copyright thing!
Jul 10, 2011 7:55 PM
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This is just ridiculous... What is it with the jap gov and this nonsensical censorship...its really begining to grate on my nerves.. Its not enough we need to wait some 2 weeks after each cencored episode is uploaded for the uncesored with seikon no qwaser...and now there doing the same thing for the smallest things... i mean wtf there just panties...is that really considered nudity... and how in the hells is this supposed to be harmful to the japanese youth so as to warrant for government bans and regulation.. it keeps getting worse and worse.. wtf are we supposed to do to be able to watch some decent anime in peace.... and its not enough that the anime industry reels in around 60% of the economies wealth... Will there be an uncensored version, does it already exist and if so where can we find it.
Jul 10, 2011 8:18 PM
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The narrator is hilarious. Most English studios can at least hire a competent narrator.
Jul 10, 2011 9:28 PM

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Why is it in english in the first place?
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Because the English narrator is awesome.
No idea, really.
What I'd like to think though, is that they use this English narrator for the sole purpose of later releasing the DVD/BDs in America.
And well, it's got fanservice and all, so I bet it'll sell better than LOLHeroes.
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well i was planning to watch this anime sooner or later, though it wasnt high on my list. now knowing its from the same guy who made LOL heroes, i'm just gonna have to see what this is about.

and also a lot of you guys are actually making som decent points.
whatever the case may be, the anime/manga industry is changing. fanservice will literally always sell, their just exploiting that.
and like some1 else said; its a business, every business will do whatever it takes to make more profit. some care about what you think, others dont give a shit. unless the whole anime/manga community does somthing, everything will be the same.


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RyanSaotome said:
I'm not trying to say the best selling shows are fanservice ridden... just that if you look over all the sales, more often than not a fanservice show will make profit by being in the 5-7k range. So adding fanservice is a low risk + high reward kind of venture, since it'll guarantee extra sales with little drawbacks.

Which is something a show like Tenma needs. Legend of the Legendary Heroes, which is the same author and studio, sold about 1k per volume. Thats absolutely horrible. So the obvious solution for a show similar to it is to add stuff that'll help the overall sales... like fanservice and uncensored BD episodes. With those, it may be able to get over the manabi line and be a profitable show.

It's notable that now that the sale numbers of Tenma are out, it shows how utterly ridiculous your whole argument is:

Legend of the Legendary Heroes: 1,480 BD copies sold
Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi: 774 BD copies sold

As jmal already pointed out, "fanservice" shows rarely are top tier hits. I have no idea where you got the idea that "adding fanservice is a low risk + high reward kind of venture, guaranteeing extra sales with little drawbacks." If something, it's the complete opposite, as Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi already showed us.
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