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Mar 10, 2023 2:13 AM

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Now tell this to the "LGBTQ community". 
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jacoblays said:
Ah, the feeble-minded finally decides to chime in with his lackluster response. I see you are still struggling to comprehend the depths of my intellectual superiority. It is not surprising, given your limited mental capacity. You see, it takes a certain level of intelligence and sophistication to understand the intricacies of the anime community's decline. Clearly, you lack the necessary cognitive abilities to grasp such complex concepts. Perhaps you should stick to more simplistic pursuits, like staring at yourself in the mirror, as you suggested. It may be a more fruitful endeavor for someone of your limited mental faculties.


astounding how words i didnt even direct toward you managed to inflict such trauma that you had to utilize thesaurus and write a forced response for no other reason than (attempt) to mock me

edit: thanks for the gold stranger!
edit 1.5: i may be jumping to conclusions here, but care to explain the nature of your response? or want to admit to making a bad shitpost? either way i ate it hook line and sinker
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Kiyomice said:
Now tell this to the "LGBTQ community".

Right, I hate that when people try to put you into a "community" just because you were born queer and then some of them are on each other's throat for the dumbest things imaginable. I heard one time "you are hiding that you are non-binary when you look too feminine, so you don't represent us." You idiot, I don't want to present anyone than myself dafuq.

Communities become always like that. Their community thinking takes over a group of people and tries to take individuality from people instead of supporting your way of living and your individuality. Lot and lot of circlejerking.


The anime community is not different to that in any way. People pretend there are "normies" out there that shouldn't be part of the community, but I found them more interesting to talk to than fanatics weebs I tried to talk to. I'm just saying.
Also anime are just a broad category of Japanese animation and therefore it will attract ofc all kind of people. There are anime like Ghost in the Shell, there are also anime like CGDCT and everything else and even a much broader category of manga.
People wouldn't say you are a part of the movie community, if you watch seven movies every month. A movie can be everything.

Although the thought of being able to gatekeep such a huge community and a medium is funny in itself. Do these gatekeepers think it works like acting a mean kid in primary school, yelling at someone "I'm not going to play with you!" and therefore grown-ass adults (or people who are almost adults with like 16, 17+) run away crying, won't touch the medium or other parts of the anime community ever again, just because they met a group of assholes, not even in real life? People you could block away at any moment.

And even in real life, I have no problem to tell people I don't give a single fuck about their attempt to gatekeep and few try to quiz me like "if you are a real anime fan tell me this and that about Naruto or One Piece." - "I never watched watched much of them." - "You are not an anime fan then, these are a must!!" Lol what.
Luckily most grown anime fans don't act like that.

As soon as people call something a community, there will always be some of those, who come up with the weirdest requirements that would allow you to be a part of.
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Felori said:
Kiyomice said:
Now tell this to the "LGBTQ community".

Right, I hate that when people try to put you into a "community" just because you were born queer and then some of them are on each other's throat for the dumbest things imaginable. I heard one time "you are hiding that you are non-binary when you look too feminine, so you don't represent us." You idiot, I don't want to present anyone than myself dafuq.

Communities become always like that. Their community thinking takes over a group of people and tries to take individuality from people instead of supporting your way of living and your individuality. Lot and lot of circlejerking.


The anime community is not different to that in any way. People pretend there are "normies" out there that shouldn't be part of the community, but I found them more interesting to talk to than fanatics weebs I tried to talk to. I'm just saying.
Also anime are just a broad category of Japanese animation and therefore it will attract ofc all kind of people. There are anime like Ghost in the Shell, there are also anime like CGDCT and everything else and even a much broader category of manga.
People wouldn't say you are a part of the movie community, if you watch seven movies every month. A movie can be everything.

Although the thought of being able to gatekeep such a huge community and a medium is funny in itself. Do these gatekeepers think it works like acting a mean kid in primary school, yelling at someone "I'm not going to play with you!" and therefore grown-ass adults (or people who are almost adults with like 16, 17+) run away crying, won't touch the medium or other parts of the anime community ever again, just because they met a group of assholes, not even in real life? People you could block away at any moment.

And even in real life, I have no problem to tell people I don't give a single fuck about their attempt to gatekeep and few try to quiz me like "if you are a real anime fan tell me this and that about Naruto or One Piece." - "I never watched  watched much of them." - "You are not an anime fan then, these are a must!!" Lol what.
Luckily most grown anime fans don't act like that.

As soon as people call something a community, there will always be some of those, who come up with the weirdest requirements that would allow you to be a part of.
Pretty rare for me to see a non-binary person criticize the LGBT community. That possibility is often not even considered. Even I forget about it sometimes due to the community spinning the narrative that whoever is against that community hates the people that community claims to represent.
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Um why are yall so passionate about a fucking community and its definition?? stop bitching and just watch your anime. 
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Felori said:
Kiyomice said:
Now tell this to the "LGBTQ community".

Right, I hate that when people try to put you into a "community" just because you were born queer and then some of them are on each other's throat for the dumbest things imaginable. I heard one time "you are hiding that you are non-binary when you look too feminine, so you don't represent us." You idiot, I don't want to present anyone than myself dafuq.

Communities become always like that. Their community thinking takes over a group of people and tries to take individuality from people instead of supporting your way of living and your individuality. Lot and lot of circlejerking.


The anime community is not different to that in any way. People pretend there are "normies" out there that shouldn't be part of the community, but I found them more interesting to talk to than fanatics weebs I tried to talk to. I'm just saying.
Also anime are just a broad category of Japanese animation and therefore it will attract ofc all kind of people. There are anime like Ghost in the Shell, there are also anime like CGDCT and everything else and even a much broader category of manga.
People wouldn't say you are a part of the movie community, if you watch seven movies every month. A movie can be everything.

Although the thought of being able to gatekeep such a huge community and a medium is funny in itself. Do these gatekeepers think it works like acting a mean kid in primary school, yelling at someone "I'm not going to play with you!" and therefore grown-ass adults (or people who are almost adults with like 16, 17+) run away crying, won't touch the medium or other parts of the anime community ever again, just because they met a group of assholes, not even in real life? People you could block away at any moment.

And even in real life, I have no problem to tell people I don't give a single fuck about their attempt to gatekeep and few try to quiz me like "if you are a real anime fan tell me this and that about Naruto or One Piece." - "I never watched  watched much of them." - "You are not an anime fan then, these are a must!!" Lol what.
Luckily most grown anime fans don't act like that.

As soon as people call something a community, there will always be some of those, who come up with the weirdest requirements that would allow you to be a part of.

I agree with every word you wrote, both about the LGBTQ+ "community" and the anime "community". 

I never thought about it in terms of anime before this thread, but it really does apply to both. Honestly, it may even apply to most "communities". The Kpop "community" used to be very kind/chill, then Gangnam Style and BTS happened and now it's a shitshow. 
It's like everything just goes downhill once things turn mainstream. And yeah, I'm calling LGBTQ+ and anime mainstream, they're both extremely common and have hype built up in them with gatekeeping and other BS. They focus on dividing instead of bringing people together.

Gatekeeping is just a really dumb concept. No one is more worthy of a human being because they like this particular anime, or listen to this particular music, or go by this gender/sexuality, or were able to get szechuan sauce before it discontinued. 

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@MizunoWaveRider While I don't consider myself non-binary per se (although some people would by their own definitions of it), I am bisexual and was more active in the LGBTQ+ "community" when I was younger. I see now, looking back, how problematic I used to be - I used to think it was cool to support LGBTQ+ community. I don't mean cool as in, well duh, you otta support equal rights. I mean "cool" as in, wow, I'm an amazing person because of this

It makes you feel good about yourself to latch yourself onto this identity of supporting a specific cause, but take it too far and it turns very sour, very quickly. Suddenly one day you're now not only lifting up LGBTQ+ individuals, but you're putting down people who don't fit under that category. Thankfully, I never did that, but I see it constantly (nowadays), and I can't support that mentality, which is why I've distance myself from those spaces. It didn't used to be like this in the past - at least, not nearly as prominently. 

Like said above, this applies to anime and other things - some people start being so proud of liking anime that they turn it into a chance to put down things that don't fall under the category of what they like, in order to try lifting up the things they consume. It's not enough to like Monster; suddenly Monster is so great that other anime just aren't worthy, and you're a lesser being if you don't appreciate it. Yikes! 
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Pen_Island said:
jacoblays said:
Ah, the feeble-minded finally decides to chime in with his lackluster response. I see you are still struggling to comprehend the depths of my intellectual superiority. It is not surprising, given your limited mental capacity. You see, it takes a certain level of intelligence and sophistication to understand the intricacies of the anime community's decline. Clearly, you lack the necessary cognitive abilities to grasp such complex concepts. Perhaps you should stick to more simplistic pursuits, like staring at yourself in the mirror, as you suggested. It may be a more fruitful endeavor for someone of your limited mental faculties.


astounding how words i didnt even direct toward you managed to inflict such trauma that you had to utilize thesaurus and write a forced response for no other reason than (attempt) to mock me

edit: thanks for the gold stranger!
edit 1.5: i may be jumping to conclusions here, but care to explain the nature of your response? or want to admit to making a bad shitpost? either way i ate it hook line and sinker
Well, well, well, look who's still talking despite their clear lack of intellect. It's no surprise that my words were enough to send you into a tailspin of insecurities. As for my use of a thesaurus, I simply wanted to ensure that my vocabulary was up to par for those capable of understanding it. And as for your accusation of a forced response, let's be real, any response to your lackluster commentary would require a certain level of effort to even acknowledge. And as for your gold, I suggest you invest it in a better sense of humor, or perhaps a dictionary to expand your vocabulary beyond the basic level.
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MizunoWaveRider said:
Pretty rare for me to see a non-binary person criticize the LGBT community. That possibility is often not even considered. Even I forget about it sometimes due to the community spinning the narrative that whoever is against that community hates the people that community claims to represent.

It's more every type of community. The first problem is that you don't talk to these people, because you think they are likeable and you are curious to get them know, you are in this community for a reason. In the lgbt community it's a political reason, mostly, and people are easy to influence to believe every person in there should live and act in a way that represents them. Like I heard "you can't dress like this, because other people will think all non-binary will look and dress like this."
I have a female friend, who said before she's a lesbian, then she found her now fiance. She lost even two friends over this, because they called her a "traitor" rather than be happy for her. That's just insane lol.
All these dumb things that shouldn't even be other other people's business.

The anime community doesn't even any social-political reasons to stay together, but the dynamics can as toxic to the level of trying to gatekeep or to make them "uniform". When some people wear anime merch very openly as shirts etc, there will always be people who accuse them of being cringe and being bad for the community. Even if it's not overly sexual or anything.
When people don't be open about that, you will be accused of some to "hide" your hobby.
Or people may think you watch either too many or too little anime.
Whatever you do, you can't do it right, especially not when you are a part of a community.
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Kiyomice said:
I agree with every word you wrote, both about the LGBTQ+ "community" and the anime "community". 

I never thought about it in terms of anime before this thread, but it really does apply to both. Honestly, it may even apply to most "communities". The Kpop "community" used to be very kind/chill, then Gangnam Style and BTS happened and now it's a shitshow. 
It's like everything just goes downhill once things turn mainstream. And yeah, I'm calling LGBTQ+ and anime mainstream, they're both extremely common and have hype built up in them with gatekeeping and other BS. They focus on dividing instead of bringing people together.

Gatekeeping is just a really dumb concept. No one is more worthy of a human being because they like this particular anime, or listen to this particular music, or go by this gender/sexuality, or were able to get szechuan sauce before it discontinued. 

Yeah, I think especially communities like anime or kpop that also very young audience or also people, who may feel lonely, use them as their "outlet" that may go as far as harassing kpop idols and harassing other fans.
Mar 11, 2023 11:33 AM

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I agree, there are way to many niches now , too many genres of anime...
By saying you watch anime you aren't saying that much anymore

Comparison with air-breathing community is great

Mar 11, 2023 4:02 PM
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in regional and local level it does exist, eg co-splays, Japanese and East Asian culture events, music, movie screenings, meetings, parties, podcasts etc
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Though only beneficial to members living in big cities or capitals
Mar 11, 2023 7:53 PM

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ateks said:
There is no anime community in the same sense that there is no air-breathing community. Just because someone watches or likes anime doesn't automatically make them part of some elusive group. A community isn't just defined by a common interest or goal but also by it's members.

Very well put, I agree.  Couldn't have said this better myself.
Apr 15, 2023 6:28 PM
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A community is defined by similarities amongst its member. Just because anyone has accessibility to anime doesn't mean that by them watching it they have the same interest or enjoyment in it as any other members. That's like saying that just because anyone can watch sports, that there's no sports community or communities. Which is obviously not true since its members have more knowledge about particular sports, the teams that play in them, and the players then someone who has little to no knowledge of them and little to no interest. The same can also be said when it comes to gaming, comics, art, etc. So, that's an overgeneralization. Although I will say that our community doesn't have that much cohesiveness beyond all of us watching Japanese animation since there are different genres in anime. As well as the fact that all us vary in our investment/ enjoyment in anime and how we express it.
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Could you gimme an example of proper community since i'm too stupid to understand why otaku community is not comsidered a community. Is it because otaku not considered as a human member or what?
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Apr 15, 2023 11:40 PM

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is it really a bad thing that the medium matured? even 10, 20 years ago you weren't guaranteed to share the same interests as someone in the "community" just because you both watched anime when it wasn't as popular. you can imagine (or recall) the days where it was unthinkable for people of different sexes to casually discuss anime (or if you can't, remember the state of online video games). 

there's better defined subcultures today for this medium than there ever used to be, you're better off actually finding someone with similar tastes and having a more "truthful" connection. 
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Community is civilized word for cult..

These days Everyone wants to join a cult because they are lonely
 

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you are being nostalgic about a difference that never existed. think about this: what is "the scientific community?" do all scientists share the same specializations, the same views, the same physical spaces, the same types of jobs, are they even all "professional," or can you be an amateur scientist and still be a welcome member of "the community?" when it comes to abstract groupings like this, being a member of the community just means being able to contribute to the pool of insight and resources that other (aspiring or current) community members can make use of. with anime, if someone wants to know who wrote x, when did y come out, where can i watch/buy z? the anime community can provide this information. we can also discuss opinions, dig up historical context, talk about the artists' lives and views, etc. i don't think there is a need for any more strict structure or membership policy. you don't need to show ID to get in or fill out any paperwork to get out. everyone can come and go as they please. this is a sort of community. it doesn't really make sense to try to make a 1:1 comparison to, like, a local, physical community who share the mutual aim of ensuring the survival of the community because it afford protection and goods to every participant. but i do think a key similarity is that the people involved don't need to really share that much in common, and in fact it's even better if there's diversity because different individuals can provide different benefits to the group and makes the entity more flexible.
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ohohohohohoho said:
you are being nostalgic about a difference that never existed. think about this: what is "the scientific community?" do all scientists share the same specializations, the same views, the same physical spaces, the same types of jobs, are they even all "professional," or can you be an amateur scientist and still be a welcome member of "the community?" when it comes to abstract groupings like this, being a member of the community just means being able to contribute to the pool of insight and resources that other (aspiring or current) community members can make use of. with anime, if someone wants to know who wrote x, when did y come out, where can i watch/buy z? the anime community can provide this information. we can also discuss opinions, dig up historical context, talk about the artists' lives and views, etc. i don't think there is a need for any more strict structure or membership policy. you don't need to show ID to get in or fill out any paperwork to get out. everyone can come and go as they please. this is a sort of community. it doesn't really make sense to try to make a 1:1 comparison to, like, a local, physical community who share the mutual aim of ensuring the survival of the community because it afford protection and goods to every participant. but i do think a key similarity is that the people involved don't need to really share that much in common, and in fact it's even better if there's diversity because different individuals can provide different benefits to the group and makes the entity more flexible.

Then what's the difference between a community and a group? Are all the people of a nation one community? Are all humans one community? Where does the definition stop? I'd say it's a blurry line and anime and gaming are already past that line which doesn't mean there aren't anime communities but there isn't this one anime community that is always talked about.
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ateks said:
ohohohohohoho said:
you are being nostalgic about a difference that never existed. think about this: what is "the scientific community?" do all scientists share the same specializations, the same views, the same physical spaces, the same types of jobs, are they even all "professional," or can you be an amateur scientist and still be a welcome member of "the community?" when it comes to abstract groupings like this, being a member of the community just means being able to contribute to the pool of insight and resources that other (aspiring or current) community members can make use of. with anime, if someone wants to know who wrote x, when did y come out, where can i watch/buy z? the anime community can provide this information. we can also discuss opinions, dig up historical context, talk about the artists' lives and views, etc. i don't think there is a need for any more strict structure or membership policy. you don't need to show ID to get in or fill out any paperwork to get out. everyone can come and go as they please. this is a sort of community. it doesn't really make sense to try to make a 1:1 comparison to, like, a local, physical community who share the mutual aim of ensuring the survival of the community because it afford protection and goods to every participant. but i do think a key similarity is that the people involved don't need to really share that much in common, and in fact it's even better if there's diversity because different individuals can provide different benefits to the group and makes the entity more flexible.

Then what's the difference between a community and a group? Are all the people of a nation one community? Are all humans one community? Where does the definition stop? I'd say it's a blurry line and anime and gaming are already past that line which doesn't mean there aren't anime communities but there isn't this one anime community that is always talked about.

I'd say people are part of a community if they wish to be seen as a part of one and from my experience most people coming from a certain scientific field really wish to be.

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Hmm I don't know if I would go so far as to say there isn't some kind of community. I think that, if you are actively involved in some kinds of discussions, or some kind of contributions (art, cosplay, conventions, or whatever else), then that would consider you active in the "community". Whereas, I wouldn't say the same, to someone who only passively consumes anime, and isn't involved in it all that much beyond that.

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I don't consider myself part of the anime community, even though I watch anime all the time and read manga, I don't chat with almost anyone here for example. To be honest, I find this community full of degenerate pedo retards, elitists and who only sum up in the forums like morons what we have already seen in the episodes.
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I feel liek your kind of overcomplcating it. If any group of people does//likes something, they can be called a community. Water-drinking and bread eating are two concepts totally different from anime to be fair. But even then, who really cares? Anime is getting more popular so contemplating the defintion of community is dumb. Just enjoy anime, not that big of a deal. 
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ateks said:
That's just one water-drinking community but not the water-drinking community. Just like MAL is one anime community but not the anime community.
Which is why it makes no sense for people to complain about a stranger they will never meet ruining their hobby. People remain free to form their own anime communities with their personal friends.
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