INSANELYWP said: first of all this is fiction. “promoting bad values” doesn’t exist when everyone recognizes it as fiction. and it seemed you were confused at the kei scene so i’ll explain a bit. ayanokoji was always going to approach kei no matter what, it’s just these series of coincidences made it easier (as shown from his conversation with hirata earlier.. actually idk if this part was cut or not but anyway). the reason for this is because kei is kinda like the leader of the girls so having that connection would lead to an enormous amount of information. some more important information before i continue. this was kind of lost in the adaptation but kei views herself as a parasite. this is because she was bullied in the past so she felt like she needed someone to protect her, leading to her fake relationship with hirata. she gained status and popularity with this, becoming a parasite to hirata. ok so basically everything led up the spread your legs scene, of course all being orchestrated by kiyotaka. his goal here was to break her. because i forget the exact quote but it was something along the lines of it being easier to reconstruct a broken person than one with values (ish). basically he wanted kei to attach herself onto only him like a parasite. spread your legs was a vital part of this. it’s also just to see how far she would go to protect her past. (should be noted that he said he had no intention of r****g her, but only to see what she would do in the situation). ayanokoji threatened to expose her past and so she offered her body. it gave him a good idea to how much he could use her. and with that kei found a new host and ayanokoji now has a large social network. this sounds extremely edgy now that i’m writing it down but i promise it’s not like that lmao. the kiyokei dynamic is one of the best in anime imo Yah everything you mentioned happened like that. they did show her past and present as a parasite and yes it was never his intent to 🍇 her it was just to see the extent of her actions you’ve summed up everything now everyone can stop arguing. |
| Swear the anime forums are a bunch of beasts ready to pounce when someone expresses an opinion that isn’t what they value for themselves. instead of going to discuss in the DISCUSSION they go again and immediately disagree with you or start bad mouthing you for your tastes and take your profile down bit by bit, this is why I barely post of forums |
| You don't. It's as simple as that. If someone's trying to imitate anime characters there's more than just 'bad values' that you need to be concerned about. |
| Classroom of the Elite is a Seinen meaning it's for Adults, Adults don't need to be shown upstanding morals in entertainment. |
| Rare breed of someone not wanting to be like Ayanokoji fr fr. |
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just go read LNs if u are too dumb to realize his intentions in anime medium maybe direct words by him help u |
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| This anime isn't made for Twitter, you should drop it. |
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lordkagetane said: Don't get me wrong, i'm all for an edgy char, and im not here to spread hate, but a lot of people seem to idolarize him for the wrong reasons, and now looking back at the new episode as long as first season it seems obvious that Ayanokonji is as sexual harasser, ofc he's just a ficitional character and he's probably doing those things without ill intentions, but there are real people in community glorifying those actions, which i think it's pretty sick. Most infamously, and now probably not really considered a spoiler anymore, being the episode 3 of season 2, while ayanokonji is just few straws away from becoming a r**ist. And for some reasons, the whole community got excited for that scene and thinks it's the best thing from this season?! Can someone explain, why such an act can be even be treated lighty? Not to say next episode he fantasizes about horikita's legs.. I really need some explainations from fandom of why those scenes are essential and how they will evolve in something interesting or i may just drop the anime, im sure there are A LOT of people uncomfortable with it as well, so if any LN readers could clartify what the author acutally intended and how the anime just adapted it poorly i would appreciate. I stopped at "r**ist." This is the type of soyjak, pronoun in bio people you see on twitter crying about big tits in anime. |
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Piromysl said: Your argument is the same as "video games cause violence". It's just dumb. Video games do cause violence. There are some cases how a Pubg player killed someone over not letting him play Pubg. |
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Scordolo said: Piromysl said: Your argument is the same as "video games cause violence". It's just dumb. Video games do cause violence. There are some cases how a Pubg player killed someone over not letting him play Pubg. Video games didn't make that person a psychopath, he was born a psychopath already. Video games do not cause violence, games are simply used as a way to try and justify their violent behaviour. In portugal there was an attempted massacre at a school, and that person watched anime, guess what was on the news? Of course, the fact that the kid watched anime was used as a way to try and justify his reasons. News always try to cancel other forms of entertainment so THEY can have the spotlight. |
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YoshiYogurt said: What is with younger people and not being able to separate fiction from reality? Walter White isn't an amazing role model either when it comes to TV either. But they have age restrictions, you know before you start what themes it contains and if you are mature enough to watch it, cote on the other side is literally airing on disney+ and other platforms that have literally to no filters. |
| I mean if we start talking about "morals" here than i think every anime has a problem. Just think about it. As long as you don't understand the "context" you are just as dumb as the people who are justifying "that" behaviour of Ayanokoji. So i would like to say stfup.... and i dropped this anime just becoz it's getting hard to watch now. it's just a bad adaptation ig. season1 was better than this. the LN might be good but i ain't much of a reader so whatever idc anymore. |
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Rembe said: lordkagetane said: Don't get me wrong, i'm all for an edgy char, and im not here to spread hate, but a lot of people seem to idolarize him for the wrong reasons, and now looking back at the new episode as long as first season it seems obvious that Ayanokonji is as sexual harasser, ofc he's just a ficitional character and he's probably doing those things without ill intentions, but there are real people in community glorifying those actions, which i think it's pretty sick. Most infamously, and now probably not really considered a spoiler anymore, being the episode 3 of season 2, while ayanokonji is just few straws away from becoming a r**ist. And for some reasons, the whole community got excited for that scene and thinks it's the best thing from this season?! Can someone explain, why such an act can be even be treated lighty? Not to say next episode he fantasizes about horikita's legs.. I really need some explainations from fandom of why those scenes are essential and how they will evolve in something interesting or i may just drop the anime, im sure there are A LOT of people uncomfortable with it as well, so if any LN readers could clartify what the author acutally intended and how the anime just adapted it poorly i would appreciate. You have CSM on your manga list. You know, the anime about a teenager who wants to cop titties as a base plot point. You sound dumb as shit. 💀💀 and he's doing it consensually, i don't se your point YoshiYogurt said: lordkagetane said: But they have age restrictions, you know before you start what themes it contains and if you are mature enough to watch it, cote on the other side is literally airing on disney+ and other platforms that have literally to no filters. It has a PG-13 rating. If you’re going to be a helicopter parent use parental controls or don’t let little kids use the internet unsupervised it should be at least 15-18. |
| He always did. Does it matter? No, because this is anime. I get your point, but I think no one watches anime to get their values of something. |
| No one should not be looking for good values or role models in anime, period. |
| Imagine caring about morals in fiction. Btw, Bungou Stray Dogs (one your favourite anime) has a guy who made several suicide jokes yet you don't care. Nice bait thread. you got me for a second. DrBalls said: lordkagetane said: there's a difference between gore and r**e and there are things that really shouldn't be taken lighty or as an "entertaiment", what even is so entertaining about such acts? It's not about how graphic things are, it's a moral issue and a human one, if you can't even understand why r**e isn't an ok thing you should probably be under surveillance. Ok nvm, you're just delusional. Fiction and reality aren't the same thing. On another note, Fire Punch has incest, rape, slavery, torture, murder, suicide, while CSM has scenes that can count as child abuse. So you might wanna reconsider your claims. OP favourite anime has a guy making suicide jokes even several suicide attempts treated as a joke, OP is baiting everyone here. |
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lordkagetane said: Don't get me wrong, i'm all for an edgy char, and im not here to spread hate, but a lot of people seem to idolarize him for the wrong reasons, and now looking back at the new episode as long as first season it seems obvious that Ayanokonji is as sexual harasser, ofc he's just a ficitional character and he's probably doing those things without ill intentions, but there are real people in community glorifying those actions, which i think it's pretty sick. Most infamously, and now probably not really considered a spoiler anymore, being the episode 3 of season 2, while ayanokonji is just few straws away from becoming a r**ist. And for some reasons, the whole community got excited for that scene and thinks it's the best thing from this season?! Can someone explain, why such an act can be even be treated lighty? Not to say next episode he fantasizes about horikita's legs.. I really need some explainations from fandom of why those scenes are essential and how they will evolve in something interesting or i may just drop the anime, im sure there are A LOT of people uncomfortable with it as well, so if any LN readers could clartify what the author acutally intended and how the anime just adapted it poorly i would appreciate. Well first off, he was never going to rape her. He is not stupid enough to break the law. Second, he only made it look like he would harass her in order to get her to spill her backstory so he could calculate how exactly he uses her. Third, it isn't a problem unless the anime happens to be glorifying it, which wasn't true in this case. |
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lordkagetane said: DrBalls said: Anime isn't made to promote good values, it's made to be entertaining above anything else. i think they shouldn't really promote such actions, especially done my the mc, when the anime is streamed on serviced dedicated to children like disney+ Etertaiment should have a limit, doing things just for shock value is cheap and gross. This is on D+? Shit the mouse is stepping their game up after summertime then. Props to them! |
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