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Jul 9, 2022 9:09 PM

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I have never seen any Korean anime before I thought they only do webtoons.
Jul 9, 2022 10:35 PM
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Nillwas said:
First, you do know google is a thing and you can use that to collect easy information.
Thanks to that you would not look like a ignorant fool.

For something to be considering a Anime 2 things need to be done.
First, created in China, Japan and Korea.
Second it need to be streamed in either of the three countries.

When this have been done it can be branded as Anime.

Are you guys butthurt or what is going on that Avatar is not loaded up here?
As you don't know the rules of what can be branded as a Anime or not.

Just because you have a opinion about something dosen't mean it's a fact.
If you know don't like Chines Anime, that is far superior to a lot of shows that get released now days, just ignore them. No one is going to force you to watch them.

It's rather sad to see people this butthurt and it's reason too, why their popularity will not raise. As we have fools like you, that can't even try something out. As you have already made up a opinion in your head, that it's bad.

Thanks for the laugh MaL, it's nice to see that we have so many ignorant people here.
And that my opinion about Anime community being dumb is true, thank you very much.

I did my research before making the thread. And I came to the conclusion that everything MAL said about the topic is absolute bullshit. Anime is a term used to refer to japanese cartoons. Chinese, korean or other eastern asian works of the same nature, are not anime. Just because MAL pretends they are, just so they can lure in fans of these particular animated shows and make more money from ads, doesn't mean they are considered anime. The only ignorant fool here is you, who made an entire essay to prove absolutely nothing. Your rhetorics just proved to me you yourself know nothing about the medium, and your opinion is only influenced by how others perceive anime, in this case by MAL mods.

I also never said chinese anime is bad. I said it's not supposed to be on a site that markets itself as an anime site. Stop assuming and taking things out of context.
Jul 9, 2022 10:43 PM

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Rijupalika said:
I have never seen any Korean anime before I thought they only do webtoons.

Korea used to make movies ripping off popular Japanese IPs.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/7900/Super_Child
https://myanimelist.net/anime/16802/Golden_Bat
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Jul 9, 2022 10:55 PM

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Because westerners like to lump all east asians together into a single group, even though Chinese, Korean, and Japanese are very racist to each other and do not consider themselves to be the same at all.

Doesn't matter anyway because nobody watches Chinese or Korean shows.
Jul 9, 2022 10:58 PM
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Lucifrost said:
Rijupalika said:
I have never seen any Korean anime before I thought they only do webtoons.

Korea used to make movies ripping off popular Japanese IPs.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/7900/Super_Child
https://myanimelist.net/anime/16802/Golden_Bat

Are korean animation studios registered in the database? I've noticed every time I find a korean cartoon on here, I never see which studios animated it.
Jul 10, 2022 12:18 AM
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Basically they added them before they tightened the database guidelines, and instead of correcting the "mistake" by removing they just doubled down by writing the rules around the issue.

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Jul 10, 2022 12:24 AM
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You guys do realize that a lot of the "Japanese cartoons" these days are outsourced to Chinese studios? Also a lot of them are produced under Chinese companies? So now what, remove all of those as well?
Jul 10, 2022 12:28 AM

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It is high time the site make it possible for us to choose filtering out all chinese cartoons.
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Jul 10, 2022 12:36 AM
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nazsa said:
You guys do realize that a lot of the "Japanese cartoons" these days are outsourced to Chinese studios? Also a lot of them are produced under Chinese companies? So now what, remove all of those as well?

You do realize you can still keep those chinese companies tagged to the anime they've worked on, without having chinese cartoons on the site, right?
Jul 10, 2022 12:37 AM
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Maybe because chinese, japenese and koreans look the same
Jul 10, 2022 12:41 AM

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BigBoya said:
Maybe because chinese, japenese and koreans look the same


Yes, a south korean looks similar to a north korean, but that doesn't mean that I want to consume north korean content after having watched a few great south korean movies.
Jul 10, 2022 1:01 AM
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NextUniverse said:
Only Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and now Taiwanese, are allowed on this database.

Idk why it is so hard to understand. I think the logic was something along the lines of many "anime" sites that had Chinese and Korean media on their databases or whatever, so it was all cool. I personally don't mind it really. It's not hurting anyone.

Also, imagine being a mod of the past using MAL only to hear that your efforts have become meaningless because MAL decided it would be a good idea to purge a huge part of the database. Talk about lack of respect for work.


EndlessMaria said:
Also MAL refuses to list some actual anime, such as the Rick and Morty shorts made by Studio Deen, just because Rick an Morty is a western IP (this was the actual response I was given when I asked about it). Yet The Animatrix and other Marvel and Star Wars properties are allowed. MAL has no standards at all.

Lol, this one annoyed me quite a bit even with what evidence I had to say that the short does indeed satisfy all the MAL guidelines. Oh well, an issue of the past now, the database has some consistency fixes now too so it isn't all so bad.
that’s because those marvel shows are anime, aka madhouse produced the marvel shows. Star Wars visions is by multiple studios like trigger and production ig. Other than that they are considered as anime
Jul 10, 2022 1:03 AM

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Good news guys, this website also includes North Korean animation about furry fascists:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/18007/Dalam-iwa_Goseumdochi
Jul 10, 2022 2:13 AM
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*sigh* There we go again......

This topic has already been brought up multiple times in the past, just let it rest already and don't keep beating up the dead horse!!!!

People sure like to slander MAL a lot for things that aren't even exclusive to it,
go to literally any other Anime & Manga database site like Anime-planet, Anilist, Kitsu, Mangaupdates etc. and you will see that all of them have Chinese & Korean animation and comics listed on their sites, but you don't see anybody there complaining about it, it's only here on MAL that every so often a entitled whiny crybaby selfishly demands for their removal!!!

Even on pirate streaming sites (Even the biggest ones) you have a lot of Chinese and Korean animation, so you are a hypocrite for singling out MAL for something that basically EVERY Anime & Manga oriented site does nowadays!!!!

It's because there's demand for them, a lot of Anime fans watch these Chinese and/or Korean animations and read Chinese and/or Korean comics, while there is usually no such overlap with Western cartoons and comics.

Also saying that because MAL includes Chinese and Korean works into their database (That, again, every Anime & Manga database does, not just MAL!) than it's only correct that they add every other animated work from every country under the sun to their database is not only completely retarded but makes you look like a salty entitled little prick, period!

Then it wouldn't even be Myanimelist anymore and the site would lose it's original scope completely, devolving into a shitshow called "Mycartoonlist", where every shitty, gross and abominable Western caricature would be featured, if that were the case, many users, including me, would be compeled to move on to other Anime database sites!!!

Also, just straight up removing all Chinese & Korean animation and comics is not only incredibly selfish to demand but would alienate a huge chunk of the userbase who would leave the site for another alternative where they could actually list their reading/watching progress and completed titles.

If no other site would be doing this, then, yes, you guys would have a point, but as it stands, all i hear is selfishness and entitlement spouting from your mouths, that's just the truth.

I will, however agree that they need to be separated from Anime & Manga, having their very own categories and a way to filtre them when looking at the seasonal charts, because it's not fun at all to scroll through 100+ Chinese fantasy martial arts animations when compiling lists lol.

If they would be separate and had filtering options by country when searching for Anime/Manga and when looking at the seasonal charts, it would be perfect!!!
Jul 10, 2022 2:44 AM
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Dauphine said:
*sigh* There we go again......

This topic has already been brought up multiple times in the past, just let it rest already and don't keep beating up the dead horse!!!!

People sure like to slander MAL a lot for things that aren't even exclusive to it,
go to literally any other Anime & Manga database site like Anime-planet, Anilist, Kitsu, Mangaupdates etc. and you will see that all of them have Chinese & Korean animation and comics listed on their sites, but you don't see anybody there complaining about it, it's only here on MAL that every so often a entitled whiny crybaby selfishly demands for their removal!!!

Even on pirate streaming sites (Even the biggest ones) you have a lot of Chinese and Korean animation, so you are a hypocrite for singling out MAL for something that basically EVERY Anime & Manga oriented site does nowadays!!!!

It's because there's demand for them, a lot of Anime fans watch these Chinese and/or Korean animations and read Chinese and/or Korean comics, while there is usually no such overlap with Western cartoons and comics.

Also saying that because MAL includes Chinese and Korean works into their database (That, again, every Anime & Manga database does, not just MAL!) than it's only correct that they add every other animated work from every country under the sun to their database is not only completely retarded but makes you look like a salty entitled little prick, period!

Then it wouldn't even be Myanimelist anymore and the site would lose it's original scope completely, devolving into a shitshow called "Mycartoonlist", where every shitty, gross and abominable Western caricature would be featured, if that were the case, many users, including me, would be compeled to move on to other Anime database sites!!!

Also, just straight up removing all Chinese & Korean animation and comics is not only incredibly selfish to demand but would alienate a huge chunk of the userbase who would leave the site for another alternative where they could actually list their reading/watching progress and completed titles.

If no other site would be doing this, then, yes, you guys would have a point, but as it stands, all i hear is selfishness and entitlement spouting from your mouths, that's just the truth.

I will, however agree that they need to be separated from Anime & Manga, having their very own categories and a way to filtre them when looking at the seasonal charts, because it's not fun at all to scroll through 100+ Chinese fantasy martial arts animations when compiling lists lol.

If they would be separate and had filtering options by country when searching for Anime/Manga and when looking at the seasonal charts, it would be perfect!!!

I don't care. This is an anime site, chinese and korean cartoons aren't anime. There is no difference between a chinese cartoon and sth like Castlevania. Lumping every eastern asian animated work together, implies that they are the on the same level and are similar in a lot of ways, which they aren't. I don't want to see some chinese cartoon forcing communist propaganda on the viewer, on this site, or any other anime site for that matter. Just because every other site does the same, does not mean it's right nor justifiable. There is demand for shows like Avatar to be added to the database as well, why don't they do it?

You're throwing the word entitled around like it's nothing. Yet here you are acting entitled and presenting your opinion as an objective fact.

I also could not care less about other sites. I'm a MAL user. I expect some form of seriousness from such a big website. You also went and compared MAL to piracy sites, that shows how low the mods and users of this site have fallen.

MAL has already devolved into MyCartoonList, there is literally a north korean show on this sites database. Actual short animated works made by studio deen for example, are missing on this site. They've literally added north korean IP's, yet they refuse to add sth like rick and morty anime shorts, because they belong to a western IP, that is the level of stupidity we're dealing with here.
Jul 10, 2022 4:30 AM
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To make the weebs angry and complain, what else.
Jul 10, 2022 10:24 AM

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nazsa said:
You guys do realize that a lot of the "Japanese cartoons" these days are outsourced to Chinese studios? Also a lot of them are produced under Chinese companies? So now what, remove all of those as well?

MAL has always ignored the country being outsourced to. The database includes none of the Scooby Doo movies that were animated in Japan, because it was American companies making all the important decisions.



Dauphine said:
It's because there's demand for them, a lot of Anime fans watch these Chinese and/or Korean animations and read Chinese and/or Korean comics, while there is usually no such overlap with Western cartoons and comics.

I already debunked this.
Lucifrost said:
That's obviously a lie; the demand for American shows like Avatar and Castlevania leaves China and Korea in the dust.
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Jul 11, 2022 1:35 AM

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For my sake. I don't watch much animation from Europe or America. So chinese animation, which is close to japanese animation is easy to get in to in a seamless way. At least for me. So it makes sense for chinese animation to be included in MAL.
Jul 11, 2022 2:31 AM
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Cuz MAL's big flex is having users who can't do half the work of moderators or permanently switch to alternative websites but love to whine about anything and everything.

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Jul 11, 2022 3:30 AM

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Some people seem to be making the false claim here that just because they're on MAL, they're being declared as anime. Rather than MAL allows us to track anime & manga and has expanded to also allow us to also track Donghua, Manhwa, Manhua etc.

Likely because there is a great deal of crossover over in these fandoms and there likely was high user demand for this.

I'm all for them eventually adding OEL Manga & Anime Inspired Western animation too eventually.

If a clear distinction is made, I don't understand why any of these shouldn't be included on this site, if there is a community and fan base of these present here. I figured it was just a slow process of including more things relevant to the culture with similar pockets of interest.

I agree the mods can be erroneous in what they decide to include, but pushing for removal of certain mediums rather than inclusion of more seems the opposite of progress to me.
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Jul 11, 2022 7:43 AM

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EndlessMaria said:
MAL should remove them. Anime by the definition of westerners (MAL is an English language website) should be Japanese animation only. If not, then every animation would be called anime and listen on here.

Also MAL refuses to list some actual anime, such as the Rick and Morty shorts made by Studio Deen, just because Rick an Morty is a western IP (this was the actual response I was given when I asked about it). Yet The Animatrix and other Marvel and Star Wars properties are allowed. MAL has no standards at all.


For once in recent months, I agree with you and I also can't believe that donghua is featured on 9anime also.
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Dauphine said:
*sigh* There we go again......

This topic has already been brought up multiple times in the past, just let it rest already and don't keep beating up the dead horse!!!!

People sure like to slander MAL a lot for things that aren't even exclusive to it,
go to literally any other Anime & Manga database site like Anime-planet, Anilist, Kitsu, Mangaupdates etc. and you will see that all of them have Chinese & Korean animation and comics listed on their sites, but you don't see anybody there complaining about it, it's only here on MAL that every so often a entitled whiny crybaby selfishly demands for their removal!!!

Even on pirate streaming sites (Even the biggest ones) you have a lot of Chinese and Korean animation, so you are a hypocrite for singling out MAL for something that basically EVERY Anime & Manga oriented site does nowadays!!!!

It's because there's demand for them, a lot of Anime fans watch these Chinese and/or Korean animations and read Chinese and/or Korean comics, while there is usually no such overlap with Western cartoons and comics.

Also saying that because MAL includes Chinese and Korean works into their database (That, again, every Anime & Manga database does, not just MAL!) than it's only correct that they add every other animated work from every country under the sun to their database is not only completely retarded but makes you look like a salty entitled little prick, period!

Then it wouldn't even be Myanimelist anymore and the site would lose it's original scope completely, devolving into a shitshow called "Mycartoonlist", where every shitty, gross and abominable Western caricature would be featured, if that were the case, many users, including me, would be compeled to move on to other Anime database sites!!!

Also, just straight up removing all Chinese & Korean animation and comics is not only incredibly selfish to demand but would alienate a huge chunk of the userbase who would leave the site for another alternative where they could actually list their reading/watching progress and completed titles.

If no other site would be doing this, then, yes, you guys would have a point, but as it stands, all i hear is selfishness and entitlement spouting from your mouths, that's just the truth.

I will, however agree that they need to be separated from Anime & Manga, having their very own categories and a way to filtre them when looking at the seasonal charts, because it's not fun at all to scroll through 100+ Chinese fantasy martial arts animations when compiling lists lol.

If they would be separate and had filtering options by country when searching for Anime/Manga and when looking at the seasonal charts, it would be perfect!!!


Oof reading all the different comments hurt my brain. You basically just summed up everything I had in mind perfectly, lots of agreements here c:
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