| "Tell me why older anime is better that newer anime." Because there is a lot more older anime to choose from. And there's a recency noise - From the new ones you see mainly the hype which in some cases obfuscates the actually good stuff. Combing through old stuff gives you more focus and more calm to judge it properly. |
alshuMar 25, 2021 5:10 AM
| I think back in the old days, animes weren't something extremely popular. The only way to capture people's attention is to create an excellent product. The anime has to be unique in order to compete with its Western peers. I think modern animes are the same. The industry has certainly changed within the last few years with the rise of the internet. It's more about spreadability and popularity than quality. That's why we get a lot of the same popular tropes in seasonal animes. You get quantity instead of quality. Additionally, I think art preference and technological advancement played a role as well. Each person would like distinct art styles for their needs. Animation technology had improved drastically from the 90s and so does the art style. There has been an obvious change aesthetic-wise. |
| Because there are old shows that are masterpieces? |
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| Because older anime at it's worst is still better than modern anime at it's best. |
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| Well one being better than another is subjective. With that said, seasons used to be longer and with longer seasons you could tell a story at a different pace. With 12 episode seasons you are forced to tell a story quickly and it could fail to capture a story arc, character trait, or compromise the entire plot. Animation styles have also changed, some of the older stuff, although a little more scrappy, had it's appeal. It's a relief that some recent shows have gone back to longer seasons (ie Frieren and SpyxFamily) time will tell if we see more and more of that. |
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"With all of the great anime coming out in recent years and the increase in the quality of animation, why should people watch older anime?" "THE VENUS WARS" (1989)        |
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| I wouldn't say better myself, because I think modern anime also has positive traits that older ones don't, but here's the things I think older anime have over new ones. 1. Cell animation looks and feels better than digital: It's definitely harder to do, and digital has things like like VFX or computer colour grading that make the visuals look better. but the 2D animation itself, to me has always looked better in cell. 2. Better atmosphere, Cell animation also generally makes for better atmosphere on average, because the characters and backgrounds are kind of forced to be made specifically for each other due to being hand drawn. The thing is, modern anime CAN still do that, but because now they have the option to get lazy with it, a lot of anime do. and that's why older anime have better atmosphere on average. 3. More experimental shows. Older anime wasn't as mainstream, and with evangelion being a cultural phenomenon, there were a lot more shows and movies that were willing to take risks in the the 90s and early 2000s. Which I think is a good thing. 4. better trends. I take edgy over the top gory sci-fi's or military based mechas being a trend over the sheer number of garbage isekai we get any time. 5. casual nudity. R rated anime used to have nudity without it necessarily existing for fanservice. That doesn't seem to happen anymore. I've seen more of it recently, Cyberpunk did it, and the latest episode of delicious in dungeon showed nudity on the harpies, but it is definitely extremely rare. |
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| Older anime actually had soul and didn't feel like a metacontextual product that expects you to already be in on the joke. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| it's good to experience both the old and new generation of anime to get a perspective of how anime has changed. |
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Reply to MasterTasuke
"With all of the great anime coming out in recent years and the increase in the quality of animation, why should people watch older anime?"
"THE VENUS WARS" (1989)
| @MasterTasuke That looks really good. I stumbled across this and the newer version is so bland compared to the older version.  |
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| Older anime definitely has the visuals going for it. It's so common for newer anime to look soulless (even stuff that looks too clean or pretty can feel empty because it feels like that's all there is to it), but with the way they made anime back then stuff looks like art that someone actually put time and effort into even if the plot may be mediocre. |
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Reply to bucciest
Older anime definitely has the visuals going for it. It's so common for newer anime to look soulless (even stuff that looks too clean or pretty can feel empty because it feels like that's all there is to it), but with the way they made anime back then stuff looks like art that someone actually put time and effort into even if the plot may be mediocre.
| @bucciest That's very surprising to read considering modern Anime strongest point are the visuals unlike old Anime. I think the main reason some think its due the animation back then was produced differently than now. I disagree with your comment anyways since many Old Anime aged poorly in visuals. @Ain2Zwei I'm curious why you claim Modern Anime somehow are for kids meanwhile Old Anime is for anyone especially adults basically saying Modern Anime are for kids and Old Anime for adults when Anime always was for everyone regardless of its old or modern. I'm also curious why you think Old Anime have such advantages when all your favourite series are Modern Anime, huh. Just an observation. |
NurguburuMay 26, 3:28 PM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
Reply to Nurguburu
@bucciest That's very surprising to read considering modern Anime strongest point are the visuals unlike old Anime. I think the main reason some think its due the animation back then was produced differently than now. I disagree with your comment anyways since many Old Anime aged poorly in visuals.
@Ain2Zwei I'm curious why you claim Modern Anime somehow are for kids meanwhile Old Anime is for anyone especially adults basically saying Modern Anime are for kids and Old Anime for adults when Anime always was for everyone regardless of its old or modern. I'm also curious why you think Old Anime have such advantages when all your favourite series are Modern Anime, huh. Just an observation.
@Ain2Zwei I'm curious why you claim Modern Anime somehow are for kids meanwhile Old Anime is for anyone especially adults basically saying Modern Anime are for kids and Old Anime for adults when Anime always was for everyone regardless of its old or modern. I'm also curious why you think Old Anime have such advantages when all your favourite series are Modern Anime, huh. Just an observation.
Nurguburu said: @bucciest That's very surprising to read considering modern Anime strongest point are the visuals unlike old Anime. I think the main reason some think its due the animation back then was produced differently than now. I disagree with your comment anyways since many Old Anime aged poorly in visuals. I was thinking on this a bit more and realized it all boils down to aesthetic preference. I've seen people go on about how good new anime looks even if the plot is insubstantial or lacking and I'm the same way but with old anime. I'd rather something look gritty and unpolished than something looking very clean and pretty, but that's my aesthetic preference. EDIT: This is also me talking more in terms of visuals than animation. |
bucciestMay 26, 4:21 PM
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| Grit and commitment - if I was to generalize like this. People die, people hate, people love. They make mistakes and they say nasty things. There are consequences to their actions. It's not always pretty, but it's interesting. It makes for a more compelling Story. And while modern Anime still DO exist, where P.C. Culture isn't that important, I feel like we're moving in a way too cozy and censored direction. Nowadays, often, every "evil" or twisted character is a nice guy, in the end. There's always an agreeable backstory in place to redeem every bad scene. Every mistake can be forgiven and all is fine and dandy, by the end of the Show. "Oh. she wasn't r*aped, that was just a rumor"...."No, he isn't actually dead. He was lucky"....etc. etc. It's boring, like that. |
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| Better stories and characters. It's as simple as that. |
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| There are also bad anime in the past. The thing is that the classics are always going to be remembered. For example, Viland Saga will be a classic of the future. Besides, since modern anime there has been more production: Offering more titles to watch during the seasons, a situation that increases the number of series/films/ovas created but affects their quality due to overproduction. Sometimes the hype for new things disorients the excellent ones. On the other hand, you can see things more clearly if you look at the past. Good job spamming your club 👍 |
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