| Why do you care so much about other's people opinions? It doesn't harm anyone. |
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| Im not a big fan to SAO the first season was pretty good. Then IMO it went the wrong direction and I stopped watching Whatever "expert" critics or anyone else thinks about it .Its damn successful and sells very well. You can absolutely have your opinion on it and so can other ,but its still a fact its a successful media |
Yuri-CrusaderMay 22, 2020 7:16 AM
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| This again... I will not even participate in this. There are megathreads with all the free thinking needed to get a comprehensive idea of this topic. mhkr said: Even if all people say Fairy Tail is trash, before the end of Tenrojima arc is a masterpiece for me and I'm very serious about it. It's sad to see people blindly follow other people opinions so they don't lose their "credibility". You know there were a time many people believed SAO was a really great anime: Compared original 50 000 votes to 1 250 000 votes... Yeah, legit... |
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inim said: Try counting and comparing the wrinkles!EdgeoftheLords said: I don't think you understand the concept of "opinion" and that causes your confusion. Let me give you an easy to memorize definition: Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and they are all the same.(...) with invalid points. (...) until they are proven right (...) their opinion is incorrect. Why are people so strict to their opinions? Why can't they admit that to the majority of the anime community, their opinion is seen as wrong? |
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| And? Even if you say your favorite anime is the best ever made with lots of arguments, someone will say "lol SAO is the best dude shut up" and the person is not wrong because it's just her opinion. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: You have a point but it was popular enough at that point. It isn't like Death Note had that much vote in 2013This again... I will not even participate in this. There are megathreads with all the free thinking needed to get a comprehensive idea of this topic. mhkr said: Even if all people say Fairy Tail is trash, before the end of Tenrojima arc is a masterpiece for me and I'm very serious about it. It's sad to see people blindly follow other people opinions so they don't lose their "credibility". You know there were a time many people believed SAO was a really great anime: Compared original 50 000 votes to 1 250 000 votes... Yeah, legit... |
| Its not the best, but it is good. Season 1 was very good Season 2 was half great, half abysmal Alicization is very good Gun Gale was good Ordinal Scale was average |
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| Because determination and self-actualization are virtues that should be respected and people are allowed to have opinions. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| I don’t think something can be factually good or bad. If you find something good or bad then that’s an opinion, people tend to find similar things bad because people tend to have similar taste. That doesn’t apply to everyone though. |
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| there is no good or bad opinion in MY OPINION SAO is a masterpiece so you have a problem with that ? does that mean my opinion is bad ? |
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| To each their own. I'm ok with people not having the same taste as me, but don't force me to accept your taste. |
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EdgeoftheLords said: I'm talking about the people who'll talk about how SAO is the best anime, and how Shonen is the best genre, with invalid points. They will say their opinion IN ALL CAPS until they are proven right. 1 butt hurt person could speak their opinion to no end, even when 150 elitist anime folks tell them their opinion is incorrect. Why are people so strict to their opinions? Why can't they admit that to the majority of the anime community, their opinion is seen as wrong? It's intriguing to think about. What are you trying to argue? Fact is to me it doesn't matter if my opinion is in the minority. Honestly if kept civil I like talk to people who disagree with me. Plus going through the thread I hope you aren't trying to argue that if the majority believes something it is correct. That's not always true in even objective studies forget something like art. |
Theo1899 said: It's amazing how sao is still brought up. Truly the greatest show ever produced. Based Kawahara. Sao will aways stay as the most influencial anime of the 2010´s, which is increidble considering how much shows became extremely famous in those years (like SNK and KNY more recently). And the whole point of an opinion is that is yours, that´s why the term "IMO" is kinda stupid. Subjectivity is the base of a debate, you know. |
| There is no such thing as a wrong opinion. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their opinions and the community can bash on them as much as they want. Opinions are subjective depending on which group of anime fans you are communicating with. |
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EdgeoftheLords said: NamikazeHime said: Tastes are different so technically opinion can't be wrong. The entire point of an opinion is that it's a personal view on particular theme. But majority rules. If the majority of the community disagrees with your opinion it is considered wrong. By definition it is not wrong, but think about flat earthers. Their opinions aren't considered wrong. Kind of the same situation with SAO lovers. *demon slayer fans don't think I didn't forget about you either* Opinions can't be wrong. The example of flat-earthers doesn't quite work because they present their opinions as facts. |
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1 butt hurt person could speak their opinion to no end, even when 150 elitist anime folks tell them their opinion is incorrect. Maybe, just maybe, the problem starts with people, even OP, always portraying anyone who dares to criticize someone's opinion for not making sense as 'elitists'? If the entire community continuously perpetuates that stereotype, you groom a generation of anime fans who think that disagreeing with them is a surefire sign of an elitist with a rotten personality and therefore doesn't need to be taken seriously. Especially when paired with the already dominant philosophy of "Everything is subjective therefore opinions can't be wrong no matter how stupid they are!!!111" that define millennials even beyond anime. It really isn't that surprising to me that anime fans don't just feel entitled to have opinions, but to have everyone else accept their opinions as infallible and uncriticizable. |
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Pullman said: First, what do millenials have to do with that? You have some tendency to judge whole generations as if they weren't individuals.Especially when paired with the already dominant philosophy of "Everything is subjective therefore opinions can't be wrong no matter how stupid they are!!!111" that define millennials even beyond anime. Second, of course opinions can't be wrong. That's the definition of opinion. That doesn't mean that there should be no consequences from it. When a conspiracy nut or truther spreads their nonsense, they belong ridiculed for it and fortunately are by a majority of people. I'll fight tooth and nail to protect their democratic right in borderline insane opinions, though. |
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Pakumen- said: Theo1899 said: It's amazing how sao is still brought up. Truly the greatest show ever produced. Based Kawahara. Sao will aways stay as the most influencial anime of the 2010´s, which is increidble considering how much shows became extremely famous in those years (like SNK and KNY more recently). And the whole point of an opinion is that is yours, that´s why the term "IMO" is kinda stupid. Subjectivity is the base of a debate, you know. The term "imo" is there so that people don't confuse an opinion for a fact/claim. |
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Alpha_Druid said: Pakumen- said: Sao will aways stay as the most influencial anime of the 2010´s, which is increidble considering how much shows became extremely famous in those years (like SNK and KNY more recently). And the whole point of an opinion is that is yours, that´s why the term "IMO" is kinda stupid. Subjectivity is the base of a debate, you know. The term "imo" is there so that people don't confuse an opinion for a fact/claim. I'm pretty sure the only people who confuse an opinion with a fact is those who don't understand the difference between the two. |
| The fact is people want their opinions, hence their tastes, to be validated by other's opinions. I have no problems with it really. But I don't really care much because MAL works on that way. The fact people discuss and rate shows is just a cesspool of opinions to begin with |
| People are entitled to their opinion, so let them be... |
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Hrybami said: I'm pretty sure the only people who confuse an opinion with a fact is those who don't understand the difference between the two. Yes, that's why people use it so that the other end can understand more easily. |
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| Sounds to me like you're conflating some issues. As far as I'm concerned, opinions like SAO is the best anime and shounen are the best genre are valid opinions, because ultimately those come down to a matter of what you felt while watching it instead of any sort of logic behind it. Other people can explain why they disagree and bring up points that back up their opinions, but that doesn't make the first opinion any less valid. However, I will agree that people that shout their opinion expecting others to agree and are unable to accept that others disagree are obnoxious, just to the same extent as the person trying to tell you that a show you didn't like is actually a masterpiece and you're stupid if you don't feel the same way. Hearing what people got out of a series is genuinely fascinating as it's viewpoints I might not have gotten otherwise and can help me better understand what I react most to and what other shows might have that I missed. But if someone tries to tell me that I'm wrong for my opinion, that's when I tune out. You can tell me why you like or dislike something and I'll listen to your reason and maybe even agree with your criticisms and it can change my perspective, but as far as I'm concerned you do not have to change how you felt about something because of what someone else argues. |
| You have shit taste, and then I have taste so shit it makes your taste look good |
| That's basically an issue since ancient Greece. Read Plato's complete work and I guarantee you'll get near a proper answer. |
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| Oh, I see, So the idea of winning over a random opinion of some random guy in the internet is still alive and kicking. Insert Deja vu song |
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