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Mar 29, 2018 7:56 AM

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Hrybami said:
What? 8.61?

Is this your first good anime you watched or what?


Watching anime for more than 2 decades now with over 1000 titles. Can confirm that while it's not one of THE absolute best I have seen, it is one of the most satisfying ones in years. I can see why it is an easy 9/10 or 10/10 for many fans both in Japan and outside Japan. I would rate it as good as Shirobako which actually went on to win AOTY awards in 2016.

Unless someone is really unique, anime like Sora yori is difficult to not appreciate.

Whether it will match the actual success in Slice of Life genre of real big names remain to be seen. I am positive it will do well in the disc sales because of the increase in pre-orders since the airing of episode 11.
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shanimebib said:
Hrybami said:
What? 8.61?

Is this your first good anime you watched or what?


Watching anime for more than 2 decades now with over 1000 titles. Can confirm that while it's not one of THE absolute best I have seen, it is one of the most satisfying ones in years. I can see why it is an easy 9/10 or 10/10 for many fans both in Japan and outside Japan. I would rate it as good as Shirobako which actually went on to win AOTY awards in 2016.

Unless someone is really unique, anime like Sora yori is difficult to not appreciate.

Whether it will match the actual success in Slice of Life genre of real big names remain to be seen. I am positive it will do well in the disc sales because of the increase in pre-orders since the airing of episode 11.


I still don't get it. I'm thinking about the other original anime released past these years which I found honestly better than Sorayori and none of them achieved #61. Maybe there's something about this series that I just don't get it, but this show really don't seem to have better substance than other show who got similar reception. Shirobako didn't even reach 8.50 and Hanasaku Iroha is still in the bottom 8.00 Tari Tari and Sakura Quest were both far below 8. What I'm asking is if Sorayori got 8.61 why don't the others can? Is this the adventure genre?
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shanimebib said:


Watching anime for more than 2 decades now with over 1000 titles. Can confirm that while it's not one of THE absolute best I have seen, it is one of the most satisfying ones in years. I can see why it is an easy 9/10 or 10/10 for many fans both in Japan and outside Japan. I would rate it as good as Shirobako which actually went on to win AOTY awards in 2016.

Unless someone is really unique, anime like Sora yori is difficult to not appreciate.

Whether it will match the actual success in Slice of Life genre of real big names remain to be seen. I am positive it will do well in the disc sales because of the increase in pre-orders since the airing of episode 11.


I still don't get it. I'm thinking about the other original anime released past these years which I found honestly better than Sorayori and none of them achieved #61. Maybe there's something about this series that I just don't get it, but this show really don't seem to have better substance than other show who got similar reception. Shirobako didn't even reach 8.50 and Hanasaku Iroha is still in the bottom 8.00 Tari Tari and Sakura Quest were both far below 8. What I'm asking is if Sorayori got 8.61 why don't the others can? Is this the adventure genre?


I haven't seen Sakura Quest but there is no way you are mentioning Sora yori with the likes of Hanasaku Iroha and Tari Tari. Those anime didn't have such a climactic episode and to be honest, there were some episodes that were really dull. There wasn't such a case for Sora yori. Every single episode served a purpose. Be it character development, be it bonding of characters, be it striving for one common goal but for different reasons, and reaching it. Everything was to the point. It's not just the adventure.

There are many people who bash Hibike! Euphonium. But it's one of the greatest coming of age story and hence I gave it a 10/10. Even the often considered pointless Mizore-Nozomi conflict arc becomes an important incident later on in Kumiko's further character development.

Same can be said about K-On! An anime I once considered worthy of praise for braindeads with a braindead character like Yui after watching the first season. But midway through the second season, I was left with awe of how far her character actually came. One of her words became one of the most inspirational words I came across in anime. I will mention Nichijou here as well. Yuuko's one single sentence changed the entire perception of the anime for me. Which prompted me to give the anime a 10/10. And then there is a reason why I mentioned Shirobako. Miyamori's tears were that powerful that made me bump the score from a 7/10 to a 9/10 instantly.

And then lastly I have to mention the ARIA franchise. My absolute favourite anime till date and that will most likely never change as it didn't change in more than 7 years. ARIA is a philosophical masterpiece. It shows us what the human civilization could actually become if it tried. Ironically the story is set in Mars where mankind had to find a new place to live as most of Earth became uninhabitable due to none other than the humans. It showed us an Utopia that can never really happen. Which is why the title of the anime is ARIA, in Italian the word translates to Tranquility.

Some anime are cut above the rest. Sora yori is the same. If you cannot understand why it is so, then you cannot. No one can make you enjoy it more than you did. No one can make you rate it more than you think it deserves.

In the end, MAL ratings are just numbers. What you feel about an anime shouldn't change how they are rated.

As for those who are comparing Sora yori's ratings in MAL with ARIA the Origination: ARIA boasts a colossus 101K discs sold over three seasons in total. The only anime that sold more in SoL is K-On! with 106K over two seasons in total. That's where it really matters. If you understand what 101K and 106K discs mean that is.
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shanimebib said:
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I still don't get it. I'm thinking about the other original anime released past these years which I found honestly better than Sorayori and none of them achieved #61. Maybe there's something about this series that I just don't get it, but this show really don't seem to have better substance than other show who got similar reception. Shirobako didn't even reach 8.50 and Hanasaku Iroha is still in the bottom 8.00 Tari Tari and Sakura Quest were both far below 8. What I'm asking is if Sorayori got 8.61 why don't the others can? Is this the adventure genre?


I haven't seen Sakura Quest but there is no way you are mentioning Sora yori with the likes of Hanasaku Iroha and Tari Tari. Those anime didn't have such a climactic episode and to be honest, there were some episodes that were really dull. There wasn't such a case for Sora yori. Every single episode served a purpose. Be it character development, be it bonding of characters, be it striving for one common goal but for different reasons, and reaching it. Everything was to the point. It's not just the adventure.

There are many people who bash Hibike! Euphonium. But it's one of the greatest coming of age story and hence I gave it a 10/10. Even the often considered pointless Mizore-Nozomi conflict arc becomes an important incident later on in Kumiko's further character development.

Same can be said about K-On! An anime I once considered worthy of praise for braindeads with a braindead character like Yui after watching the first season. But midway through the second season, I was left with awe of how far her character actually came. One of her words became one of the most inspirational words I came across in anime. I will mention Nichijou here as well. Yuuko's one single sentence changed the entire perception of the anime for me. Which prompted me to give the anime a 10/10. And then there is a reason why I mentioned Shirobako. Miyamori's tears were that powerful that made me bump the score from a 7/10 to a 9/10 instantly.

And then lastly I have to mention the ARIA franchise. My absolute favourite anime till date and that will most likely never change as it didn't change in more than 7 years. ARIA is a philosophical masterpiece. It shows us what the human civilization could actually become if it tried. Ironically the story is set in Mars where mankind had to find a new place to live as most of Earth became uninhabitable due to none other than the humans. It showed us an Utopia that can never really happen. Which is why the title of the anime is ARIA, in Italian the word translates to Tranquility.

Some anime are cut above the rest. Sora yori is the same. If you cannot understand why it is so, then you cannot. No one can make you enjoy it more than you did. No one can make you rate it more than you think it deserves.

In the end, MAL ratings are just numbers. What you feel about an anime shouldn't change how they are rated.

As for those who are comparing Sora yori's ratings in MAL with ARIA the Origination: ARIA boasts a colossus 101K discs sold over three seasons in total. The only anime that sold more in SoL is K-On! with 106K over two seasons in total. That's where it really matters. If you understand what 101K and 106K discs mean that is.

That's quite the paragraph you wrote there, i agree with you though :)
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First episode got 7.5-7.6

Ended 8.61

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Mar 29, 2018 6:14 PM

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Kittens-kun said:
Why do people care about the score rising? If you thought it was good, it shouldn't be bothering you. (I mean, scores in general shouldn't bother people, but that's besides the point)


Ratings 'validate' their tastes. It's a matter of projection, coz when others point out that they don't like that part that others like, it's often seen as a personal attack to their taste. Not like I'd remind you about it since I think you know this better than me, but I'll remind the others anyway.
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I just like that it's leading violet evergarden now with less hype.





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Here's a good summing up as to why lots of people like it (SPOILERS mostly in the second half of the video):
https://youtu.be/wO6CGqKimC0

He also says, rightly, that not every show is to everyones taste. Even a well executed series like this.
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Here's a good summing up as to why lots of people like it (SPOILERS mostly in the second half of the video):
https://youtu.be/wO6CGqKimC0

He also says, rightly, that not every show is to everyones taste. Even a well executed series like this.

Uhhh this is a bit of a rollercoaster to me. A lot of good reasons thrown there along with some other reasons I simply do not understand. Particularly the music. No, the problem is not that the songs are repeated. Every single anime makes repeated use of its track. It would be absurd to come with a different melody for every single scene of the series when you can convey so many different emotions with the same song. It's kind of dumb to use it as a criticism and it rubs me the wrong way because I actually think that the music is, by far, the worst part of the show. And again, not particularly the tracks but the way they are used, way too often unable to blend effectively with the images and lazily inserted without a clear narrative purpose or emphasis.

I am also surprised that he mentions Yuzuki as the audience viewpoint character. The show never tries to even do something like that with her I think. And it would be counterproductive if it did because a great quality I feel this video doesn't rightly point is the portrayal of their friendship as something of its own, separated from the audience and from any kind of expectation. It's the naturality of their relationship what sells this show for me, and yet this video seems to care too much about the conclusion and the message, instead of trying to explain what makes their dynamics as absolutely fantastic and filled with chemistry as they are.

I don't know, MB tries too hard to separate this from the standard moe or CGDCT fare in this commentary by alluding to high concepts and this is not special at all, a lot of shows have high concepts. This is not what makes Sora yori so great and unique and it really bugs me that the video is too focused on the themes and their significance. It is the ability to tell this with characters that feel mundane and authentic, and down-to-earth in their interactions, what truly sells the show for me. And precisely, if the repetitive structure of emotional climax keeps delivering, is because there is a lot of work done in characterization to make the progressions and transitions feel natural every single time.
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I just like that it's leading violet evergarden now with less hype.

Not anymore, when the aniTubers catch up to this series, they'll hype it up even more. And which they already did, with Mother's Basement leading them now.


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ituhata said:
I just like that it's leading violet evergarden now with less hype.

Not anymore, when the aniTubers catch up to this series, they'll hype it up even more. And which they already did, with Mother's Basement leading them now.


That's ok. The fact that it passed it once without all the money dumped into advertising is good enough.





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Jaeger07 said:

Not anymore, when the aniTubers catch up to this series, they'll hype it up even more. And which they already did, with Mother's Basement leading them now.


That's ok. The fact that it passed it once without all the money dumped into advertising is good enough.

The fact it went unnoticed under many people's noses until now is quite a feat. Like a virtuous thief in the night.


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Watching anime for more than 2 decades now with over 1000 titles. Can confirm that while it's not one of THE absolute best I have seen, it is one of the most satisfying ones in years. I can see why it is an easy 9/10 or 10/10 for many fans both in Japan and outside Japan. I would rate it as good as Shirobako which actually went on to win AOTY awards in 2016.

Unless someone is really unique, anime like Sora yori is difficult to not appreciate.

Whether it will match the actual success in Slice of Life genre of real big names remain to be seen. I am positive it will do well in the disc sales because of the increase in pre-orders since the airing of episode 11.


I still don't get it. I'm thinking about the other original anime released past these years which I found honestly better than Sorayori and none of them achieved #61. Maybe there's something about this series that I just don't get it, but this show really don't seem to have better substance than other show who got similar reception. Shirobako didn't even reach 8.50 and Hanasaku Iroha is still in the bottom 8.00 Tari Tari and Sakura Quest were both far below 8. What I'm asking is if Sorayori got 8.61 why don't the others can? Is this the adventure genre?


Shirobako did reach 8.50 at one point, but among 24 episodes many were a bit dull (I loved it though) Hanasaku Iroha had bad humor and Sakura Quest was a real let down when compared to Shirobako.

I do think Sorayori targeted a younger audience than Shirobako and they did it really well, playing the friendship card masterfully, on each episode, the interactions between the characters were a pleasure to witness, humor and drama were there. All characters had several traits to there personalities, not necessarily some would expect, they had flaws but they were still or because of that lovable kids. It was only 12 episodes but intense ones.

Last, most people came here to see a cute girl show and we got a great one which was in the end a bit more than just cute girls doing cute things. It surpassed expectations.

That's why, 8.61. (I know it means nothing but I'm glad it got above the shounen shits sequels in a way).

If I had to compare, Houseki no Kuni last season was better (except the ending) because really different than the usual and it didn't went that high (8.50) but well. As long as they are appreciated and discovered by the right people, it's all good.
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Mar 30, 2018 3:35 AM
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What? 8.61?

Is this your first good anime you watched or what?


It depends more on the mean score of that person, not so much in the quantity as many think. In many cases, if their mean is score is +7 or +6.5, it's very easily that you will give a higher score than other with a fine, average or low mean score. My mean score is average and i don't like this anime.
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I always found it quite difficult to give the "right" score here. I mostly gave like a 7 to 9 to the shows I watched so far. Maybe my score was different if they would let out the title for each score, like 'good' or 'very good'.

But for the main topic here I doubt it had anything to do with actual performace of the show rather than the current hype around it. Just as certain episodes of Darling in the Franxx made the score rise at first, but then slightly drop over the next few days. In my eyes this show is not really what the loudest voices are shouting out, but more a 'girl heroine seeks X' show with comedic elements.
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no because who the fuck pays attention at scores like that
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FUCK DEVILMAN CRYBABY!!!! THIS IS THE INSTANT AOTY AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS!!!!!!!!!
Devilman is not even close to be a AOTS contender man, let alone the whole year ;)
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FUCK DEVILMAN CRYBABY!!!! THIS IS THE INSTANT AOTY AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS!!!!!!!!!

Dude calm down, this is a Yorimoi thread, no Netflix shounen shenanigans here.


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FUCK DEVILMAN CRYBABY!!!! THIS IS THE INSTANT AOTY AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS!!!!!!!!!


Get off this thread right now, you and your caps as well.
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no because who the fuck pays attention at scores like that
Me, for one

Apparently I need to add more characters to my reply. I really wish MAL would get rid of that requirement.
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Get off this thread right now, you and your caps as well.
lol its more satire than anything cause when devilman crybaby came out everybody was discussing if it was aoty so i thought people would find this funny, guess i was wrong though
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Tenderizer17 said:
Never get your hopes up on the internet. As you can see, if you set your expectations high, you'll easily be let down.
yeah i beginning to understand that now
Sora Yori definitely AOTY, I'm with you on that (although our opinions probably differ on the margin by which it wins).
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It'll possibly rise above a 9. I see more buzz coming off it now that it's finished and I plan to watch it and be amazed about it next week.
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I see yorimoi page and still display rating 8.61. But when I look at the seasonal anime page, the rating becomes 8.64. yorimoi has been on top of saiki kusuo
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Sora Yori definitely AOTY, I'm with you on that (although our opinions probably differ on the margin by which it wins).
yeah it might but at least we agree :)[/quote]

Don't shoot your goo too soon my dood. There is still plenty of otaku stuff to come this year. At least regarding fandom and fanbase that everyone is getting triggered about and starts posting their perfect 10's everywhere. Just wait when One Punch Man 2 or I think Attack on Titan comes out. And not to mention that just because it's the highest horse for crunchyroll it's the actual best show of the year. But sadly that is mostly the case how 'people' see it.
I still compare this show to Angel Beats in structure, which makes it actually worse since it borrowed the same narrative elements. So just you wait before giving out your AOTY or even AOTS.
Plus there is still the possibility, that maybe if the equinox had the right angle this year and the planets align with B Centauri that the last of the Evangelion movies drops, that would definitely stir things up...
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Don't shoot your goo too soon my dood. There is still plenty of otaku stuff to come this year. At least regarding fandom and fanbase that everyone is getting triggered about and starts posting their perfect 10's everywhere. Just wait when One Punch Man 2 or I think Attack on Titan comes out. And not to mention that just because it's the highest horse for crunchyroll it's the actual best show of the year. But sadly that is mostly the case how 'people' see it.
I still compare this show to Angel Beats in structure, which makes it actually worse since it borrowed the same narrative elements. So just you wait before giving out your AOTY or even AOTS.
Plus there is still the possibility, that maybe if the equinox had the right angle this year and the planets align with B Centauri that the last of the Evangelion movies drops, that would definitely stir things up...


OPM Season 2 JC Stuff and not Natsume Shingo, Huk Huk
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OPM Season 2 JC Stuff and not Natsume Shingo, Huk Huk


In english please? I'm kind of new to the whole anime scene so I don't get the slang so well...
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CrazyFrogz said:

OPM Season 2 JC Stuff and not Natsume Shingo, Huk Huk


In english please? I'm kind of new to the whole anime scene so I don't get the slang so well...


I'm pretty new as well, but I think what he is saying is One Punch Man season 2 is being made by a different animation studio to the first season and I'm guessing from the huk huk (ha ha?) that it's possibly a bad change 🤷‍♂️
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I'm pretty new as well, but I think what he is saying is One Punch Man season 2 is being made by a different animation studio to the first season and I'm guessing from the huk huk (ha ha?) that it's possibly a bad change 🤷‍♂️


Yeah, I'm pretty concerned there as well, but at least in the beginning it will be swarmed with positivity. And I don't actually see why it should be so bad. I mean there is a huge demanding crowd behind that's basically a big moneybag and why should the studio then think to do it different. Plus I guess that One would be in the production as well, so the whole project may not be doomed at all. And I have yet to discover a second season that was ruined by either the same or another studio. Well except for Dagashi Kashi 2, but just because the episodes got smaller...
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Sora Yori definitely AOTY, I'm with you on that (although our opinions probably differ on the margin by which it wins).

Don't shoot your goo too soon my dood. There is still plenty of otaku stuff to come this year. At least regarding fandom and fanbase that everyone is getting triggered about and starts posting their perfect 10's everywhere. Just wait when One Punch Man 2 or I think Attack on Titan comes out. And not to mention that just because it's the highest horse for crunchyroll it's the actual best show of the year. But sadly that is mostly the case how 'people' see it.
I still compare this show to Angel Beats in structure, which makes it actually worse since it borrowed the same narrative elements. So just you wait before giving out your AOTY or even AOTS.
Plus there is still the possibility, that maybe if the equinox had the right angle this year and the planets align with B Centauri that the last of the Evangelion movies drops, that would definitely stir things up...


Besides the fact that Sora Yori and Angel Beats are dramas with comedy, they are nothing a like and their type and style of drama and comedy differed greatly too.
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Besides the fact that Sora Yori and Angel Beats are dramas with comedy, they are nothing a like and their type and style of drama and comedy differed greatly too.


Well, again based upon the fact that both are dramedies (I picked that term up on wikipedia, so it's legit) and the shocking tear jerker comes at the same point and level in the show I compare them as equal, but not the same. Like I said, I kinda see it more in an abstract reality, than what is particularly happening.
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For those curious about charts and trends.



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