Deknijff said: tragedydesu said: Desu why you got to keep saying bullshit over and over again?Masochists love Ntr and tsunderes ..... Soon no one will take you seriously Darek said: Deknijff said: well does anyone takes him seriously? I for one don't...Desu why you got to keep saying bullshit over and over again? Soon no one will take you seriously well i already don't but tbh sometimes i find it fun to go along with the absurdity of it ._. we must embrace the desu for what he is |
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Darek said: I try to at least since he has Death Note and Code Geass in his favouritesDeknijff said: well does anyone takes him seriously? I for one don't...Desu why you got to keep saying bullshit over and over again? Soon no one will take you seriously |
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SpaghettiSpike said: I love how some fans always get so defensive when someone reminds them of their shit taste. Also trying to prove variety in harems? XD Ofc theyre different to some degree but its a fact that they have the least differences out of any genre. Nothing wrong with it, but your constant denial implies that you think so. @arcticdrop712 explains it well, but I havent finished his post :) I love it how people like you remind me that stupidity is a common occurance on MAL especially regarding when people try to discuss something subjecitve as taste. Funny af actually. |
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Deknijff said: tragedydesu said: Desu why you got to keep saying bullshit over and over again?Masochists love Ntr and tsunderes ..... Soon no one will take you seriously Euh .. I think I didn't say anything wrong Masochists ?the majority of anime fans are Masochists and this is a fact Ntr? Harems are ntr And the ones who get ntred is not the mc but the girls Tsunderes ? More than 90% of harems have tsundere as main love interest |
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Manaban said: SpaghettiSpike said: @Manaban I had a hangover that day too iirc :D Also fuck you, I specifically tagged you to read that post I quoted cause he just formed his reasons better than I did. Whats wrong with it? Why not just wait until you don't have a hangover before trying to discuss things with people, then? When you're capable of actually approaching the topic yourself and all? Cause I enjoy doing it? I wont wait till im able to write the perfect post on a fucking forum nor will I remember to post there, theres just no payoff and even if I were able to form my opinions as well as that guy whom I quoted back then(dont remember who it was), I wouldnt do it cause quoting is much less time and effort consuming. Im the kind of guy who usually doesnt answer questions that have been already correctly answered one or more times, also the reason why I havent written a review of any of my favorites - cause I think they all got good reviews covering my thoughts in a satisfying way. It also doenst help that english is my third language so I pretty often have trouble finding the most accurate words. Ive had many nice discussions with other people on stuff I cared more about. @AstZero >doesnt get a joke >gets offended cause he knows deep down that joke has a fair amount of truth to it >insults the guy who made him realize that You probably represent the average intelligence level of people with 'that' taste |
SpaghettiSpikeJun 24, 2017 7:24 AM
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tragedydesu said: your proof being?that would imply a shit load of harems would have actual dating and then them getting to the NTR Masochists ?the majority of anime fans are Masochists and this is a fact http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NTR Last I checked I could only name a few anime on my hand that has a main couple dating very early on in the story tragedydesu said: Would you mind giving me a good sample size to that claim?Tsunderes ? More than 90% of harems have tsundere as main love interest |
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Book_Lover said: If there's one genre that I never really understood, it's harems. Why are they so popular? Welcome to the 21st century. If you live in a civilized country like Japan, you can have everything: more food than you dare to eat, a nice climate-conditioned home, so much safety you will watch horror movies, wondrous gadgets that will do everything for you... You just need a job that will pay for all that, and getting one is not that hard too (but you'll have to work a damn lot in Japan). In fact, you can even be a lazy hikkikomori and still get all of that! There are only two things you can't get with money. Love and achievements. We've got video games, hobbies and heroic anime for achievements. But when it comes to love, the only substitute is harem shows. They are all about a guy who represents you, being surrounded by girls who are good-looking, good-natured and loving. Some harems will subvert "good-natured" aspect, some will play it up, but anime girls are always good-looking, even when they're scary monsters or dangerous criminals. (well, there are also dating sims, but they usually become harems when adapted to anime) The best harems also provide achievements. For example, battle harem protagonists also kick ass and take names. Book_Lover said: The story tends to be the same, with the same kind of guy and the same sort of girls. So why is it so popular? Sure, there is one kind of guy. A guy who represents the viewer. That's the point. (actually, that's not true - harem protagonists come in different archetypes) While the girls often come in well-known archetypes, the exact cast varies. One anime might have a clingly little sister loli, the other might have a perverted eternal loli, and the third might not have a loli at all. Some harems even omit a tsundere! And as it was said, two girls from the same archetype don't have to be the same. I mean, I've seen a lot of Rei clones, and I can tell you how they're all different. The one in Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou is especially funny. For a pure harem, the story doesn't really exist - it is an episodic romantic comedy. It does not matter whether there is 10 episodes or 1000, as long as the author doesn't make them boring, we can keep watching them. As a result, one can watch one harem as another season of the previous one. When crossed with another genre, a harem takes the storyline from that genre. That storyline worked fine for that genre, so why not? Surely a Hero's Journey will become better if the hero befriends monsters instead of killing them. Make love, not war! Surely our hero's trusted companions can all be female and in love with him. Power of love is no weaker than the power of friendship. |
GamerDLM said: Extect said: Okay I'll try Hundred (one of the most generic things I've ever seen) Infinite stratos Seijaku muhai no Bahamut Freezing (and this is lightly different, MC isn't op and it's the girl that's op instead) Guess that's the best I can think of for school battle mecha harem anime. Take out the mecha part though and there's a lot of series basically just like them. I feel like I have to point out, Freezing isn't mecha. It was hand to hand combat with different weapons for each character. So I could understand it being compared to like Maken ki or Absolute Duo if you're focusing just on battle style. But even for basic style since I've only seen IS and Freezing out of those two they have notable differences. Like IS tends to be more light hearted with in school tournaments and such and is notably more comedy and romance focused. The action is almost secondary. Freezing tries to take itself almost too seriously especially in the second season in which is focused on thins likes physical abuse during childhood and how they impacted the characters later on in life. Like your category for exactly the same is "these 4 have the same genres" but you also messed up one of those. Having the same genre also isn't really enough to say they're exactly the same. Especially since genres are supposed to be a method of categorizing series that have similar traits/tropes but can have vastly different executions. Oh shit you're right XD. The manga hasn't updated for so long I totally forgot. Yeah especially with that freezing shouldn't be on the list because it has a different execution as well :/ Hurt my own point with that one lol, the other 3 are more similar (If you can't tell I'm not trying that hard here) |
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SpaghettiSpike said: Manaban said: Why not just wait until you don't have a hangover before trying to discuss things with people, then? When you're capable of actually approaching the topic yourself and all? Cause I enjoy doing it? I wont wait till im able to write the perfect post on a fucking forum nor will I remember to post there, theres just no payoff and even if I were able to form my opinions as well as that guy whom I quoted back then(dont remember who it was), I wouldnt do it cause quoting is much less time and effort consuming. Im the kind of guy who usually doesnt answer questions that have been already correctly answered one or more times, also the reason why I havent written a review of any of my favorites - cause I think they all got good reviews covering my thoughts in a satisfying way. It also doenst help that english is my third language so I pretty often have trouble finding the most accurate words. Ive had many nice discussions with other people on stuff I cared more about. I don't think you're dumb, man. I'm pretty sure you can speak English well enough to understand that the bulk of your initial post was challenging the statements of many other people in this thread: SpaghettiSpike said: I love how some fans always get so defensive when someone reminds them of their shit taste. Also trying to prove variety in harems? XD Ofc theyre different to some degree but its a fact that they have the least differences out of any genre. Nothing wrong with it, but your constant denial implies that you think so. Which, in of itself would be an non-issue, but when you got replies to it that disagreed with your assertion and questioned you on it, your responses were stuff like follows: SpaghettiSpike said: Sorry but I dont care enough to convince people that water is wet, thats common knowledge just like my statement and if somebody believes otherwise its not my job, neither am I willing to teach them. SpaghettiSpike said: I would really like to cause you guys are rather reasonable for the most part, but I got an awful hangover and am tired so maybe some other time. I dont mean any harm by saying they lack the diversity of most other genres, thats just a comparison and variety isnt necessarily a good or bad thing, thats just how it is tho. I'm sorry, man, but if you're going to challenge others then you should at least have the dignity to put forth something other than a non-response in turn, since like I said, I fail to see how this is little different than somebody using subjectivity to back out of a discussion. You were capable enough to try to challenge it, obviously, so why can't you argue back when other people challenge you in turn and then proceed to only make this the case afterwards? You can make posts if you're hungover if you want, I'm not saying that you shouldn't unless you're going to use it as an excuse like you did here, but the core of what I'm trying to tell you is that if you're going to try to disagree with people then you shouldn't fall back on stuff like that or how you're hungover or how English is your third language as an excuse only after the fact. That's no good, man. |
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Deknijff said: with how long this is taking I'm kind of hoping the reason is because of this  and not because they decided to up and leave randomly Nah man I just left. I spent a couple minutes on a trashy example and then went to bed. Though the example you posted had a lot of good ones it |
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SpaghettiSpike said: Manaban said: Why not just wait until you don't have a hangover before trying to discuss things with people, then? When you're capable of actually approaching the topic yourself and all? Cause I enjoy doing it? I wont wait till im able to write the perfect post on a fucking forum nor will I remember to post there, theres just no payoff and even if I were able to form my opinions as well as that guy whom I quoted back then(dont remember who it was), I wouldnt do it cause quoting is much less time and effort consuming. Im the kind of guy who usually doesnt answer questions that have been already correctly answered one or more times, also the reason why I havent written a review of any of my favorites - cause I think they all got good reviews covering my thoughts in a satisfying way. It also doenst help that english is my third language so I pretty often have trouble finding the most accurate words. Ive had many nice discussions with other people on stuff I cared more about. @AstZero >doesnt get a joke >gets offended cause he knows deep down that joke has a fair amount of truth to it >insults the guy who made him realize that You probably represent the average intelligence level of people with 'that' taste My bad that i didn't catch on that telling people that they have shit taste is a joke nowadays, okay. Yes it has the ammount of truth that harems are the same in one way or another( yes i do watch them although i've been avoiding them for quite a while now cuz they've really gotten boring to watch cuz i'm looking for something more interesting) but saying somebody has shit taste ticks me off. Lol i'm not gonna deny facts about harems. They have the same shit and usually end the same way. I only watch them cuz i'm either looking for something i know what's gonna happen(not like other genres aren't predictable also.. I could make a point that drama shows are pretty much the same stupid shit on repeat with different characters) or i'm hoping that it's different from other harems pretty much but of course for everything there will always exist an exception. Offended? Not really i don't care enough LOL. Insulted the dude who said people have shit taste.Unknowingly that it was him trying to be funny? Good one. Pretty sure i don't, it's pretty bad that 2 people already have proven that you don't have the ability to make an argumented response and that you scapegoat out of a discussion, wouldn't it be bad if more did. |
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| @Manaban dignity in 2k17 LUL I just wrote a forum post, didnt think anyone would respond to me, im a dick most of the time and people usually ignore that. Ofc, it is different than 'thats just your opinion'. I can explain you later if I have time, probably monday at best but I would appreciate if you try to think about it and figure out alone. Anyway why are you telling me what I should or shouldnt do? I could just ignore these posts, but I respect them enough to respond and provide reasons why im not willing to argue atm. The mistakes are hella obvious to me so I just wanted to point out how little time they spent on thinking about it or how tunnelled their vision has become cause of their bias towards the genre. Ive had exactly the same discussion in the past. @Astzero youre actually insulting me in taking that seriously cause it implies im dumb enough to make such statements seriously. Also what do the other responses have to do with your case? You meant to use smth like an ad populum? |
SpaghettiSpikeJun 24, 2017 8:00 AM
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Extect said: Deknijff said: name 10 harems that are exactly the same to each other Okay I'll try Hundred (one of the most generic things I've ever seen) Infinite stratos Seijaku muhai no Bahamut Freezing (and this is lightly different, MC isn't op and it's the girl that's op instead) Guess that's the best I can think of for school battle mecha harem anime. Take out the mecha part though and there's a lot of series basically just like them. Except that if you look below the surface, you can easily see that these 4 works are very much different. Well, actually you can tell they're very much different even on the surface. Just start with the feeling the MC gives you. Bahamut's MC is truly awesome, even if he is very serious about not abusing his power. Hundred's MC is very talented, but it's the teamwork that saves the day. Infinite Stratos's MC spends most of the anime trying to catch up to everybody, and always fall short of being strong enough. Freezing's MC is so useless he could have been an ordinary harem MC. Personally, I find themes to be the most distinctive qualities of a battle harem. |
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SpaghettiSpike said: bring in facts then first so that we can think about it I would appreciate if you try to think about it and figure out alone. since we've posted examples and you haven't maybe you should actually rethink this and not us. SpaghettiSpike said: You say we spent little time thinking about this yet you bring no example which would point that you actually haven't thought of anything while we haveThe mistakes are hella obvious to me so I just wanted to point out how little time they spent on thinking about it or how tunnelled their vision has become cause of their bias towards the genre. Ive had exactly the same discussion in the past. Im pretty sure it is you who has the bias here |
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SpaghettiSpike said: Ofc, it is different than 'thats just your opinion'. I can explain you later if I have time, probably monday at best but I would appreciate if you try to think about it and figure out alone. I'll drop a comment on your profile on Monday, then, because I fail to see how there's that big of a difference between initiating a discussion and then trying to back out of it with an excuse and I really would love an explanation over the difference of the two. It works together, not separate, man. You asserted your disagreement, and then tried to pigeonhole out of it when somebody questioned you over it. If you were unwilling to talk about it to begin with, then why should you have the right to challenge anything whatsoever without being criticized for it? SpaghettiSpike said: Anyway why are you telling me what I should or shouldnt do? I could just ignore these posts, but I respect them enough to respond and provide reasons why im not willing to argue atm. The mistakes are hella obvious to me so I just wanted to point out how little time they spent on thinking about it or how tunnelled their vision has become cause of their bias towards the genre. Ive had exactly the same discussion in the past. I'll stop telling you to quit attempting to excuse yourself out of discussions you more or less instigated whenever it becomes anything other than cowardly. We have to go all the way or none of the way - not just picking or choosing what benefits us the most. If it's not okay for somebody to say "it's muh opinion" when having their opinions challenged, then it's not okay for people to say "I don't feel like talking about it" whenever they were the ones clearly making that disagreement to begin with. And if the mistakes are so transparently obvious to you, then please, I'm asking you to enlighten me since that shouldn't be an issue to you if you're hungover, you should already have the words to use and the reasoning behind them in mind if that's the case, and it's pretty clear you can hold a discussion on some level since we've been doing this for the better part of a page now. We wouldn't be here having this dumb little slapfight whatsoever had you just done so initially, since making this claim and then saying "I don't want to talk about it" is the issue in of itself. Of course, you can also just respond to what I just asked of you with "I already said I don't feel like talking about it leave me alone" or something else along those lines, feel free to do so, so long as you have the knowledge that doing so is doing nothing other than reinforcing the issues I and others take with your approach to this topic. |
ManabanJun 24, 2017 8:12 AM
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| @Deknijff so much threads confirmed that for me one of them is "do you mind an abusive girlfriend " and the majority said he dont mind being treated like shit by a girl when the mc have a crush on a girl and then someone steal her , they call it Ntr (onani master for example) but vice versa is not Ntr ?.... ok seriously ... you really need some examples? Masamune-kun no Revenge Nisekoi Zero no Tsukaima Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry toradora Shakugan no Shana i cant remember any harem without a tsundere as main love interest |
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ManabanJun 24, 2017 8:21 AM
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tragedydesu said: @Manaban i tend to avoid low rated anime i only know about yamada (it was a decent anime) man, yamada aside, there's some 7.5s and 7.6s in there you have a weird definition of low rating ._. but regardless of that, i think if you're going to avoid stuff below a certain score threshold all together then i don't know why you're going to make statements like that tbh, especially with harems since they've got a relatively low mean score even among the higher rated ones compared to other genres because every lead female in harems being a tsundere is entirely incorrect |
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tragedydesu said: @Manaban lower than 7.8 is low rating for me dont blame , the majority use the 7-10 scale i didnt say all harems female leads are tsunderes i said the majority of harem mc end up with a tsundere ah, my mistake, going back over it you said you can't remember one without a tsundere winning, not that they're exclusive my bad there but you should still know that your score threshold is really what seems to be preventing you from going past what you perceive to be the horizons here, but even then you mentioned examples earlier like rakudai or zero no tsukaima or shana or masamune-kun no revenge, all of which go lower than 7.8, so idk |
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tragedydesu said: As one who also answered in that thread I know some indeed said no they don't mind. But they could be like me so I would prefer to not assume if they are Ss or Ms@Deknijff so much threads confirmed that for me one of them is "do you mind an abusive girlfriend " and the majority said he don't mind being treated like shit by a girl tragedydesu said: I believe in gender equality so of course the same thing happening to the opposite gender counts.when the mc have a crush on a girl and then someone steal her , they call it Ntr (onani master for example) but vice versa is not Ntr ?.... ok but I was to my understanding they need to be dating first for NTR to happen. That is the impression I have from hentai and White Album 2 tragedydesu said: For Masamune-kun no Revenge the main girl is always nice towards the boy who she has crush on. Even though she is mistaking who her real crush is that is proof enough she isn't tsundere but just a snob towards random people. seriously ... you really need some examples? Masamune-kun no Revenge Nisekoi Zero no Tsukaima Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry toradora Shakugan no Shana Nisekoi and Tsukaima is ok so fair enough. Stella isn't a tsundere for reasons I honestly shouldn't need to explain. Ive already explained to you that Taiga is just violent but not a actual tsundere. Shakugan no Shana isn't a harem but a love triangle tragedydesu said: https://myanimelist.net/anime/53/Ai_Yori_Aoshii can't remember any harem without a tsundere as main love interest https://myanimelist.net/anime/12293/Campione__Matsurowanu_Kamigami_to_Kamigoroshi_no_Maou https://myanimelist.net/anime/2167/Clannad https://myanimelist.net/anime/6747/Dance_in_the_Vampire_Bund https://myanimelist.net/anime/3455/To_LOVE-Ru https://myanimelist.net/anime/11617/High_School_DxD https://myanimelist.net/anime/10079/Hoshizora_e_Kakaru_Hashi https://myanimelist.net/anime/29785/Jitsu_wa_Watashi_wa |
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Book_Lover said: If there's one genre that I never really understood, it's harems. Why are they so popular? The story tends to be the same, with the same kind of guy and the same sort of girls. So why is it so popular? lol you've completed 27 anime, and not a single harem in your list. Your statement is baseless AF |
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DoctorWasabi said: Book_Lover said: If there's one genre that I never really understood, it's harems. Why are they so popular? The story tends to be the same, with the same kind of guy and the same sort of girls. So why is it so popular? lol you've completed 27 anime, and not a single harem in your list. Your statement is baseless AF Lol implying that the lists on this site literally show how many animes someone has watched. According to this alt account I just started my first anime, my other account shows 121, but in reality I've watched hundreds so far lol. His/her statement isnt necessarily baseless, it might be that his/her list is incomplete. As I assume most are. |
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Blunderland said: DoctorWasabi said: lol you've completed 27 anime, and not a single harem in your list. Your statement is baseless AF Lol implying that the lists on this site literally show how many animes someone has watched. According to this alt account I just started my first anime, my other account shows 121, but in reality I've watched hundreds so far lol. His/her statement isnt necessarily baseless, it might be that his/her list is incomplete. As I assume most are. Then why not make the thread with the alt you're assuming he has, so people could see that he's seen more than 0 harems and has more ground to speak on here rather than just using an account that does nothing except provide ammo for outright dismissing his opinion all together? |
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Manaban said: Blunderland said: Lol implying that the lists on this site literally show how many animes someone has watched. According to this alt account I just started my first anime, my other account shows 121, but in reality I've watched hundreds so far lol. His/her statement isnt necessarily baseless, it might be that his/her list is incomplete. As I assume most are. Then why not make the thread with the alt you're assuming he has, so people could see that he's seen more than 0 harems and has more ground to speak on here rather than just using an account that does nothing except provide ammo for outright dismissing his opinion all together? I'm not saying or implying he has a alt, I'm just saying lists hold little value.. they aren't necessarily accurate or up to date. |
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Blunderland said: Manaban said: Then why not make the thread with the alt you're assuming he has, so people could see that he's seen more than 0 harems and has more ground to speak on here rather than just using an account that does nothing except provide ammo for outright dismissing his opinion all together? I'm not saying or implying he has a alt, I'm just saying lists hold little value.. they aren't necessarily accurate or up to date. Or it could be complete and they actually might just have little experience. If we're going to be talking about possibilities rather than anything concrete, then I feel that we should account for all of them. Either way, since the argument you're making against the claim is rooted in whether their list is completed or not, I feel like the burden of proof relies on the OP answering whether or not their list is full or if there's stuff they haven't added moreso than any postulation or assumptions being made on our own end, and that'd be what determines the validity of the dismissal that you're challenging. I'll mention @Book_Lover and ask whether their list is complete or incomplete, but I do feel like in any case somebody can't be blamed for working with what they're given, which is the case for @DoctorWasabi pointing out that they have 0 harem anime on their list. |
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RainShift said: Came here to see harem fans who actually take the things seriously get mad... Was not disappointed. Blunderland said: Don't get me wrong, I do understand the point you're making. Guess we'll have to wait for OP to reply! RainShift said: Came here to see harem fans who actually take the things seriously get mad... Was not disappointed. Hahaha. Man, I don't really see anything angry in this thread, so I'm kind of confused why you two are saying this ._. At most, there was multiple people pretty much just asking somebody to explain why they disagree with our assertion, which I hardly find unreasonable or aggressive in nature, and they kept refusing to try to explain why they think this. And lest we forget that the post in question was pretty accusatory anyway, and probably more aggressive than anybody on the opposite side of it combined. Unless "It's wrong to try to argue with people and then say that you don't feel like arguing with them when they ask why you think that" is now considered something angry or butthurt or something, which would be news to me tbh. |
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Blunderland said: I was only referring to some individuals, not to all of the harem fans on this post. Sorry if I made it seem that way. Ah well, then all is fine then. That's not anything specific to H/E fans anyway, there will always be some angry rabble whenever a thread like this talking about specific genres or audiences is made, regardless of whether or not it's polite about inquiring of this, like this OP was. |
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Darek said: RainShift said: there is literally no harem fan here who is mad.Came here to see harem fans who actually take the things seriously get mad... Was not disappointed. Not. A . Single. One. Do you have any proof. Show me some proof. I am going to be very overly defensive until you show me some proof. I see no proof of this. Not. A. Single. One. You're not guilty of this yourself but seriously guys stop trying to have an argument with anything that even jokingly (as was the case with myself) disagrees with you on this thread. Notice how the majority of people hating on harem here are providing quick one sentences? It's a goddamn joke at this point. And clearly the only people bothering to care enough to debate with clearly amped up people are the ones who have no idea what they're talking about. |
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RainShift said: You're not guilty of this yourself but seriously guys stop trying to have an argument with anything that even jokingly (as was the case with myself) disagrees with you on this thread. Notice how the majority of people hating on harem here are providing quick one sentences? It's a goddamn joke at this point. The issue is that these jokes, or even something with truth to it such as over-exaggeration, since there are actually people who believe harem stuff is taking over the anime industry when a simple look at a seasonal listing would show that there are rarely ever more than 1 or 2 put out a season among other things, are so widespread that there are people believe they're the truth at this point. I'm sure you'd be understandably annoyed if people took the things you liked and very consistently used over-exaggerations and hyperbole as a means of actual criticism against them, especially when they can so often be debunked as easily as just providing a series of links to shows that prove that assertion incorrect. But even regardless of this, something being a one sentence or so post doesn't necessitate it being a joke to begin with, there are many people who dislike the genre in earnest and, while there are definitely those who can expound on their thoughts as to why they dislike it in a way that's all fine and well, there's also plenty who just vapidly hate it for reasons they pick up second hand without ever really looking into it whatsoever and can't really muster up more than just a sentence or so because they don't have anything more than that. I don't really know where that connection between seriousness and post length is made tbh. |
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