| >Be Dave1888 >heil hitler Grey-Zone said: Other than "feeling hurt" no one in any way really takes damage from it so why do you insist on it being "bigotry"? "Well something even worse may follow that" doesn't count because that's nothing but irrational fear. especially one who is intolerant or hostile towards different social groups (especially, and originally, other religious groups), and especially one whose own beliefs are perceived as unreasonable or excessively narrow-minded, superstitious, or hypocritical. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. But beside that the notion has been dropped anyway, as much more importantly than "hurt feelings" it's impractical as the really evil and problematic sleeping-cell terrorists who this "temporary ban" is supposed to keep out in the first place could easily lie about their religion. So instead it has now become a temporary ban on immigration from "nations known for exporting terrorists". but it's not. "If you identify as a Muslim, you are banned from entering the US" /=/ "temporary ban on nations known for exporting terrorism". Which is already not really that sensible since most aren't terrorist. Edit: Oh right nevermind, fair enough in that he changed it, I suppose. irrational fear Hmm. So now it's practical, based on nations and therefore, even if you stretch the definition even more, doesn't fit the claim of "bigotry" anymore, unless you think that Iranians and North Koreans should be treated like Germans when coming to the US. And note that it's STILL a temporary measure, i.e. it will be replaced once a new proper vetting system has been established. In a speech in Youngstown, Ohio, Trump called for a new screening test, which he labeled “extreme, extreme vetting,” designed to keep out anyone who does not share “American values” and who is not prepared to “embrace a tolerant American society.” Until such a test is ready, he said, the U.S. should temporarily suspend immigration from countries that have histories of spawning terrorists. Vague comments like "second amendement people" and "extreme vetting" are also a big Trump problem. Nevermind his policy, it's about the words he speaks and the rhetoric he uses. That *especially*, particularly even, is what I'm stressing. Clebardman said: @Noboru I refuse to capitalize the first letter of god, allah, führer, countries, that kind of stuff. This is my petty rebellion against society :3. But don't think too much of me, I googled it to make sure I wrote it correctly ^^'. what a rebel... |
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How could I forgot it? I linket this Quote once in this webpage. But it's invalid here, when we speak about blacks, because Hitler ranked Japanese, and Chinese higher in his racepyramid. |
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| I see very interesting points brought out over Hitlers status and that he is a more German Supremeacist. I was aware of him working together with people of the Middle East but not Africa I thought he despised Blacks? Well besides that he was a Dictator and he institutionalized genocide. He also occupied European lands for no reason but for the glory of the Reich and because he wanted to control the world. I wonder how he would be if he became a painter or just united Germany,Austria and Sutenland and then just didnt do anything from then on. Would Germany get invaded and divided again or would the World leaders accept the new "United" Germany? No clue but I do know Japan and Russia would get shit on since they both are worse than Germany in terms of what they did in WWII. Most people dont talk about the barbaric ways of the Axis Japanese Empire or how careless Allied Leader Joseph Stalin regarding his people's lives. |
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Dave8814 said: Okay, then you don't seem to be some fake Nazi just posting for the Lulz, considering the Number in your Name.How could I forgot it? I linket this Quote once in this webpage. But it's invalid here, when we speak about blacks, because Hitler ranked Japanese, and Chinese higher in his racepyramid. |
Noboru said: Dave8814 said: Okay, then you don't seem to be some fake Nazi just posting for the Lulz, considering the Number in your Name.How could I forgot it? I linket this Quote once in this webpage. But it's invalid here, when we speak about blacks, because Hitler ranked Japanese, and Chinese higher in his racepyramid. What's wrong with the numbers in my name? Dildry said: Well besides that he was a Dictator and he institutionalized genocide. He also occupied European lands for no reason but for the glory of the Reich and because he wanted to control the world. You wrong, totally wrong. Hitler didn't wanted to conquer Europe. His goal was the Lebensraum. He wanted living space for his folk, so he wanted to colonize a part of the Sovietunion, and take back the Reich's territores from Poland. (Or annex the country, detalis don't matter now). Germany declared war to Poland, and 3 days later England and French DECLERAD WAR TO GERMANY. Hitler offered peace, but he had been refused, so he smashed france. Let the Royal Army escape in Dunkerque. Then offered peace many times to Britain, but the drunker Churchill refused all times, cause he said they will fight until the last. (Later he GOT Nobel Peace Prize..) Norway had been annex, because Britain wanted to take over the control in the country. I wonder how he would be if he became a painter or just united Germany,Austria and Sutenland and then just didnt do anything from then on. a) Read Norman Spinrad - The Iron Dream. Plot: Hitler never became Nazi leader. b) 1933, Netherlands, Jewish World Congress warned the germans: "You will topple Hitler, or we will" Most people dont talk about the barbaric ways of the Axis Japanese Empire or how careless Allied Leader Joseph Stalin regarding his people's lives. Because their victims wasn"t jews. Also, they like to forget Hitler criticized Franco, because after the civil war, he don't unite the spanish people, but lead punitive expedition against his own folk, supported by the riches, and priests. |
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You're right. Him and his buds got drunk one night and it just sorta happened. His goal was the Lebensraum. He wanted living space for his folk, so he wanted to colonize a part of the Sovietunion How much living space do Germans need? Germany declared war to Poland, and 3 days later England and French DECLERAD WAR TO GERMANY. How dare they! Hitler offered peace, but he had been refused, so he smashed france. Let the Royal Army escape in Dunkerque. Then offered peace many times to Britain, but the drunker Churchill refused all times, cause he said they will fight until the last. (Later he GOT Nobel Peace Prize..) Source? Norway had been annex, because Britain wanted to take over the control in the country. Source? |
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Psyotic said: You're right. Him and his buds got drunk one night and it just sorta happened. His goal was the Lebensraum. He wanted living space for his folk, so he wanted to colonize a part of the Sovietunion How much living space do Germans need? Germany declared war to Poland, and 3 days later England and French DECLERAD WAR TO GERMANY. How dare they! Hitler offered peace, but he had been refused, so he smashed france. Let the Royal Army escape in Dunkerque. Then offered peace many times to Britain, but the drunker Churchill refused all times, cause he said they will fight until the last. (Later he GOT Nobel Peace Prize..) Source? Norway had been annex, because Britain wanted to take over the control in the country. Source? C'mon man, you should learn to use google, or go to library. There is a lot of literature about this. The most important is the flying of Rudolf Heß. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433733/How-Nazis-offered-peace-treaty-World-War-II-meant-selling-Russians.html http://ww2today.com/hitler-makes-a-peace-offer-to-britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t378972/ About norway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_R_4 http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-the-uk-had-invaded-sweden-and-norway-as-planned-in-1940.240164/ |
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Psyotic said: How much living space do Germans need? Germany was occupied and starving after 1st World War and the peace treaty who basically turned germany into a labor camp for the winners. That's why after WW2 european leaders laid the fundations of the UE with the CECA (European community of coal and iron) instead of taking economical measures against the losers... Not that it mattered much at that point since germany wasn't anymore. Hitler or not, WW2 was bound to happen. |
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Dildry said: @Dave8814 You cant blame the UK for declaring war on Germany since they guaranteed the independance of Poland. France joined in because they are allies with the UK. It wasnt a defensive war either because Hitler steamrolled them and they had to go on the defensive. I blame them because of the refusing peace offers. And you can't blame Hitler for the attack. He got the war declaration in 3rd of Sept, He waited until 1940 spring, but nothing happened. So, he attacked. |
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Dave8814 said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433733/How-Nazis-offered-peace-treaty-World-War-II-meant-selling-Russians.html http://ww2today.com/hitler-makes-a-peace-offer-to-britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t378972/ The Nazis basically offered the same deal to Britain as they did to Russia when the first invaded Poland. Any sane person would have been highly skeptical. And it's a no brainer Hitler didn't want a war with France and Britain (yet). Not to mention, Hitler wasn't exactly acting out of self defense when he invaded France either. There was a several month long period after France had declared war where there was little to no military activity. In regards to the invasion of Poland, you're going to have to put me down as being a bit skeptical of the treatment of Germans in Poland. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if parts were exaggerated as part of a justification for war. |
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Psyotic said: Dave8814 said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433733/How-Nazis-offered-peace-treaty-World-War-II-meant-selling-Russians.html http://ww2today.com/hitler-makes-a-peace-offer-to-britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t378972/ The Nazis basically offered the same deal to Britain as they did to Russia when the first invaded Poland. Any sane person would have been highly skeptical. And it's a no brainer Hitler didn't want a war with France and Britain (yet). Not to mention, Hitler wasn't exactly acting out of self defense when he invaded France either. There was a several month long period after France had declared war where there was little to no military activity. In regards to the invasion of Poland, you're going to have to put me down as being a bit skeptical of the treatment of Germans in Poland. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if parts were exaggerated as part of a justification for war. You can't compare the Molotov-Rippentrop pakt with the british peace offer... Hitler's war against the Sovietunion was an ideology war, and his peace offer too. He belived (I think badly) the Anglo-Saxons are also the part of the superior race, that's why he wanted peace, and (maybe alliance). |
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Dave8814 said: Hitler's war against the Sovietunion was an ideology war, and his peace offer too. Yes, because Great Britain and Nazi Germany were just so similar ideologically... He belived (I think badly) the Anglo-Saxons are also the part of the superior race I know that when I view a group of people being of my race or my own race, I feel the need to bomb their civilians into oblivion and attempt to start proxy wars with them. |
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Psyotic said: Dave8814 said: Hitler's war against the Sovietunion was an ideology war, and his peace offer too. Yes, because Great Britain and Nazi Germany were just so similar ideologically... He belived (I think badly) the Anglo-Saxons are also the part of the superior race I know that when I view a group of people being of my race or my own race, I feel the need to bomb their civilians into oblivion and attempt to start proxy wars with them. -.- Try to read the ALL FUCKING LINES... His peace offer based in ideological grounds, BECAUSE he thought they are part of the superior race, too. (For example: dunkerque). About the bombing, first of all, Hitler peace had been refused, so it was war. He said he won't begging on his knees, if they want war, they will get it. Germans only bombered airports, and industrial building, until churchill ordered a bombing against Berlin, cause he knew, if he do this, Hitler stop bombing the industry, and he will start a retaliatory company. |
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Except he let the British escape as a means for peace, not because of any sort of racial camaraderie. And even if he did see them as being "of the same race" then it's even more evidence to suggest that he would have invaded later anyway, given he wanted to unite the Aryan race under one flag. Germans only bombered airports, and industrial building, until churchill ordered a bombing against Berlin, cause he knew, if he do this, Hitler stop bombing the industry, and he will start a retaliatory company. Except the British retaliation was against targets similar to what the Germans were attacking. It's like if two kids build two sand castles. Kid one knocks over the other kid's, and then that kid knocks over the first kids. The first kid then kicks the other kid in the balls. |
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Psyotic said: Except he let the British escape as a means for peace, not because of any sort of racial camaraderie. And even if he did see them as being "of the same race" then it's even more evidence to suggest that he would have invaded later anyway, given he wanted to unite the Aryan race under one flag. Germans only bombered airports, and industrial building, until churchill ordered a bombing against Berlin, cause he knew, if he do this, Hitler stop bombing the industry, and he will start a retaliatory company. Except the British retaliation was against targets similar to what the Germans were attacking. It's like if two kids build two sand castles. Kid one knocks over the other kid's, and then that kid knocks over the first kids. The first kid then kicks the other kid in the balls. So you say, strategic bombing and bombing the civilians is the same? ok.. |
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Oy vey, I can't get over this horrible antisemetic and intolerable comment, it triggers my PTSD! I'll have you know I survived the gas chamber 5 times and was turned into a lampshade 3 of those times! I watched Anne Frank get gassed by Hitler in person while he raped innocent Jewish babies! I've reported this to the proper authorities and you should expect the JISDF and Holocaust foundation at your door any second, goy! |
So you're saying that Hitler didn't bomb British civilians? Okay... |
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Spooks said: Trump strikes me as a person who is single minded, he thinks business and making america great. He said it 20 years or so ago he wouldn't run for president unless he saw the country going down the drain and everything Ive seen from him says he is genuinely trying to make america great in the only way he can. Hes straight forward, you got an ISIS problem, infiltrating migrants? stop migrants until the ISIS threat is dealt with. He doesn't care about upsetting people he cares about getting things to work. Problem with illegals coming over, bringing drugs and taking jobs? build a better wall than the fence they have already its not crazy America has had armed border with Mexico for many years he just wants to upgrade it. I don't think hes a racist, sexist or anything 'ist' as people call him because he has spent years caring only about making business and business suffers if you refuse to deal with groups of people based on skin or sex. If hiring women would improve his business and make money he would hire women cause making the bank is the most important thing to him. If hes literally Hitler apparently for the past 30 years + he'd probably be already in jail or broke by now as an American living in an overtly liberal country under Obama. Trump can't be Hitler because Hitler was driven purely on ideology letting it dictate his vision and actions. Trump is a capitalist and making America better, making it profit is what drives him. Never seen him as a bigot, a racist a sexist or anything the opposition use to slander him. Basically his single mindedness works for him he doesn't have it in him to put ideology above and before business and practicality. Ideology means nothing to him and he puts no value in it. and thats my view as a none American, none redneck, educated liberal individual. Unfortunately not everyone is as rational as you are. It puzzles me why anyone considers Hillary a better option. |
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Ari_the_Lioness said: Third party candidates don't matter. In fact, even if by some miracle they won the popular vote(and trust me, due to the fact that they are not the focus of the media not too mention they have next to no funding compared to Republicans / Democrats, it truly would be a miracle), it still wouldn't matter. After all, popular vote is not what elects the president, the electoral college which is made up of Republicans and Democrats who in many states are not required to vote in line with their district are. In other words, they would still lose even if they won the popular vote since they are considered "extreme" by both Republicans and Democrats which would in turn agree to overwrite their vote with little to no fear of any type of political backlash since congressional elections do not get the same type of scrutiny / participation that presidential elections do. Not too mention, no third party has the means to run serious congressional campaigns in every state, so they would be unable to capitalize on any type of political backlash either. It is honestly better to just stay home, save the 10 cents you would have wasted on gas, than to go out and vote for a third party candidate.This goes for ALL the candidates, not just Donald or Hilary. Did people forget there are other people running besides these two? |
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| Dave8814, PRAAAIISE THE FUHER. Many spooky people standard for "racism" is outrighting saying he hates mexicans and muslims, and humankind. And, nobody's going to say that(in politics), actually many people who think that way would earnestly say they don't hate people based on their race. At what point do you think someone is truly racist? Earnest question. Thrashinuva said: How many people in this thread have said something they genuinely believed in the moment, and later in life thought to themselves "maybe I don't really feel that way". How many of you have treated someone poorly, and later realized that you really want to treat everyone fairly from now on? Maybe you all forgot, but Donald Trump is a human, just like you. Maybe he said some extreme things you disagreed with. Maybe what he's saying not contradicts what he's said before. That doesn't mean that he isn't a man that can change. Everyone can change yes, I'll see if he can truly convince me he's changed the way he thinks about human beans until 2020, it's a long climb to pull off but I believe. I'll be awaiting the independent run. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz "This concentrated, direct bombing of industrial targets and civilian centres began with heavy raids on London on 7 September 1940" "More than one million London houses were destroyed or damaged and more than 40,000 civilians were killed, almost half of them in London." |
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Psyotic said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz "This concentrated, direct bombing of industrial targets and civilian centres began with heavy raids on London on 7 September 1940" "More than one million London houses were destroyed or damaged and more than 40,000 civilians were killed, almost half of them in London." Wikipedia... LoL. Aug-25-1940-Berlin bombed http://ww2today.com/25th-august-1940-berlin-bombed-for-the-first-time http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/10/the-bombing-war-by-richard-overy-review/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/britain_bombs_berlin |
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Too mainstream for you? Aug-25-1940-Berlin bombed http://ww2today.com/25th-august-1940-berlin-bombed-for-the-first-time Literally the first sentence: "After Luftwaffe planes had bombed London on the 24th August" This simply states Britain used bombs first, not that they bombed civilians first. "On the evening of 24 August the Luftwaffe, whilst targeting London's docks, also dropped bombs on the city's financial heart and Oxford Street in the West End." |
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