CherryLover said: it's switch place cherry. it's about choosing to experience what the character you've chose gone through.Celestrial2 said: When something traumatic happens, especially at a young age, it shapes who you are as a person. Her dark past definitely shaped and we can't tell if she'd be the same way without it I agree that it shapes who she is, but I think that the foundations of her personality will stay the same. I normally wouldn't ignore her past, but this thread is about inserting myself. I can't possibly insert myself in her past, that would defeat the purpose of inserting myself in the first place. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: it's switch place cherry. it's about choosing to experience what the character you've chose gone through.I agree that it shapes who she is, but I think that the foundations of her personality will stay the same. I normally wouldn't ignore her past, but this thread is about inserting myself. I can't possibly insert myself in her past, that would defeat the purpose of inserting myself in the first place. Can I not choose to experience part of the character? What's so bad about that? Stop picking on Sakura. |
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CherryLover said: Gensan said: it's switch place cherry. it's about choosing to experience what the character you've chose gone through. Can I not choose to experience part of the character? What's so bad about that? Stop picking on Sakura. no one is hating on sakura. Its just the point of the thread is all. I can't say I won't to be Guts but skip everything until post... um.. post episode 25. Because nothing goes from then on. But if I want to be Guts it would 100% need to include all the HORRIBLE, GRUESOME pain and suffering he's been through as well. Otherwise I wouldn't really be Guts at all. |
Celestrial2 said: CherryLover said: Can I not choose to experience part of the character? What's so bad about that? Stop picking on Sakura. no one is hating on sakura. Its just the point of the thread is all. I can't say I won't to be Guts but skip everything until post... um.. post episode 25. Because nothing goes from then on. But if I want to be Guts it would 100% need to include all the HORRIBLE, GRUESOME pain and suffering he's been through as well. I understand where you're coming from, but wouldn't you want to be Guts post-episode 25, knowing you have suffered but not having to experience it yourself? Experiencing it yourself seems to be needless torture, to be honest. |
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CherryLover said: Celestrial2 said: no one is hating on sakura. Its just the point of the thread is all. I can't say I won't to be Guts but skip everything until post... um.. post episode 25. Because nothing goes from then on. But if I want to be Guts it would 100% need to include all the HORRIBLE, GRUESOME pain and suffering he's been through as well. I understand where you're coming from, but wouldn't you want to be Guts post-episode 25, knowing you have suffered but not having to experience it yourself? Experiencing it yourself seems to be needless torture, to be honest. That just in how life works. That would be saying I want to be LIKE Guts rather than saying I want to BE Guts. |
Celestrial2 said: CherryLover said: I understand where you're coming from, but wouldn't you want to be Guts post-episode 25, knowing you have suffered but not having to experience it yourself? Experiencing it yourself seems to be needless torture, to be honest. That just in how life works. That would be saying I want to be LIKE Guts rather than saying I want to BE Guts. But being LIKE Guts would be taking on part of his characteristics. If you're ACTUALLY Guts (post ep25), you're him, but only that you've inserted yourself after the torture. |
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CherryLover said: you missed the pointed of the thread. try thinking why everyone choosing a fun/troll/harem character instead of their favorite.Gensan said: it's switch place cherry. it's about choosing to experience what the character you've chose gone through. Can I not choose to experience part of the character? What's so bad about that? Stop picking on Sakura. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: you missed the pointed of the thread. try thinking why everyone choosing a fun/troll/harem character instead of their favorite.Can I not choose to experience part of the character? What's so bad about that? Stop picking on Sakura. But as I said, it's possible to be the character without having to insert yourself from the very beginning of their life. |
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CherryLover said: Cherry, troll lvl = pro.Gensan said: you missed the pointed of the thread. try thinking why everyone choosing a fun/troll/harem character instead of their favorite. But as I said, it's possible to be the character without having to insert yourself from the very beginning of their life. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: Cherry, troll lvl = pro.But as I said, it's possible to be the character without having to insert yourself from the very beginning of their life. There you go with your "troll" thing again. Whenever you see an opinion different from yours, you label it as trolling. For your information, I'm not trolling, nor do I condone such acts. |
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CherryLover said: Gensan said: Cherry, troll lvl = pro. There you go with your "troll" thing again. Whenever you see an opinion different from yours, you label it as trolling. For your information, I'm not trolling, nor do I condone such acts. Would Guts be the person we know without his past? No. Would Kiritsugu act the way he did without his past? Mostlikely not. Would the Stay Night Illya's do like they did without their pasts? No. The past of Sakura is what makes her who she is. Without having gone through her past, you wouldn't be Sakura to begin with. |
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CherryLover said: no not about different opinion,Gensan said: Cherry, troll lvl = pro. There you go with your "troll" thing again. Whenever you see an opinion different from yours, you label it as trolling. For your information, I'm not trolling, nor do I condone such acts. telling you that you missed the point to the thread, but you ignored it..... |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: no not about different opinion,There you go with your "troll" thing again. Whenever you see an opinion different from yours, you label it as trolling. For your information, I'm not trolling, nor do I condone such acts. telling you that you missed the point to the thread, but you ignored it..... As I said, I understand the point of the thread, but I want to make it clear that I believe it is also possible to insert myself into a character that has already experienced pain in their lives and yet not be in that pain because the "person" I've inserted into has already experienced the pain. Think of it like split personalities. I am that person, but I didn't feel the pain because I wasn't there before I started controlling the character. |
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CherryLover said: = denying her past and just want her happy life = denying your favorite character existence.Gensan said: no not about different opinion, telling you that you missed the point to the thread, but you ignored it..... As I said, I understand the point of the thread, but I want to make it clear that I believe it is also possible to insert myself into a character that has already experienced pain in their lives and yet not be in that pain because the "person" I've inserted into has already experienced the pain. Think of it like split personalities. I am that person, but I didn't feel the pain because I wasn't there before I started controlling the character. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: = denying her past and just want her happy life = denying your favorite character existence.As I said, I understand the point of the thread, but I want to make it clear that I believe it is also possible to insert myself into a character that has already experienced pain in their lives and yet not be in that pain because the "person" I've inserted into has already experienced the pain. Think of it like split personalities. I am that person, but I didn't feel the pain because I wasn't there before I started controlling the character. You keep missing my point. I'm not denying her past's existence, I'm saying I can enjoy being her without having personally experienced the pain she felt before, with the full knowledge of what has happened. Does that clear it up? |
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CherryLover said: No, if you want her happiness you should've chose to be Shirou and take care of her. by choosing to replace her that mean you've already removed her and by choosing to avoid her past which is the last thing there you've just erased her existence. her past is her existence just because you know it doesnt make you her.Gensan said: = denying her past and just want her happy life = denying your favorite character existence. You keep missing my point. I'm not denying her past's existence, I'm saying I can enjoy being her without having personally experienced the pain she felt before, with the full knowledge of what has happened. Does that clear it up? |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: No, if you want her happiness you should've chose to be Shirou and take care of her. by choosing to replace her that mean you've already removed her and by choosing to avoid her past which is the last thing there you've just erased her existence. her past is her existence just because you know it doesnt make you her.You keep missing my point. I'm not denying her past's existence, I'm saying I can enjoy being her without having personally experienced the pain she felt before, with the full knowledge of what has happened. Does that clear it up? I see your point, but you don't understand mine. I'm saying her past is part of her existence, but I don't have to personally experience it to be her. Meaning I can become the her that has already succeeded in finding happiness, having "experienced" her past already. |
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CherryLover said: Then you're not becoming her, you're just being yourself with the knowledge of her past and stealing her place/happiness. you switch with her and choose to be yourself which also mean you deny her existence.Gensan said: No, if you want her happiness you should've chose to be Shirou and take care of her. by choosing to replace her that mean you've already removed her and by choosing to avoid her past which is the last thing there you've just erased her existence. her past is her existence just because you know it doesnt make you her. I see your point, but you don't understand mine. I'm saying her past is part of her existence, but I don't have to personally experience it to be her. Meaning I can become the her that has already succeeded in finding happiness, having "experienced" her past already. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: Then you're not becoming her, you just becoming yourself with the knowledge of her past. you switch with her and choose to be yourself which also mean you deny her existence.I see your point, but you don't understand mine. I'm saying her past is part of her existence, but I don't have to personally experience it to be her. Meaning I can become the her that has already succeeded in finding happiness, having "experienced" her past already. No, that's becoming her. I'm no longer myself because I am "Matou Sakura", but I am not the Matou Sakura of the past. Rather, I am the Matou Sakura who has already experienced the past and is now living in the present. That doesn't deny her existence at all. |
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MahadoKusanagi said: CherryLover said: I see your point, but you don't understand mine. I'm saying her past is part of her existence, but I don't have to personally experience it to be her. Meaning I can become the her that has already succeeded in finding happiness, having "experienced" her past already. But you didnt actually experienced it and thats the point. By not experiencing it, you cant possibly switch with her. What you can do is trying to be her but not actually be her. So are you saying those that want to be a character have to live their lives from the moment they are born? Because that is unreasonable. Why can't you be a character at one particular point in their lives? As I said, I've "experienced" it, but I would not have actually experienced it, as I wasn't her at that point. I would, however, have the memories of being tortured. That's what I'm trying to say. |
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CherryLover said: No, you're just yourself with the name of "Matou Sakura" with the knowledge of Matou Sakura's past. choosing to become Matou Sakura without her past is just being yourself with Sakura's happiness. Her past is what she is, you chose to avoid her past which mean you didnt want to be her, you just want to be yourself with her happiness.Gensan said: Then you're not becoming her, you just becoming yourself with the knowledge of her past. you switch with her and choose to be yourself which also mean you deny her existence. No, that's becoming her. I'm no longer myself because I am "Matou Sakura", but I am not the Matou Sakura of the past. Rather, I am the Matou Sakura who has already experienced the past and is now living in the present. That doesn't deny her existence at all. |
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Gensan said: CherryLover said: No, you're just yourself with the name of "Matou Sakura" with the knowledge of Matou Sakura's past. choosing to become Matou Sakura without her past is just being yourself with Sakura's happiness. Her past is what she is, you chose to avoid her past which mean you didnt want to be her, you just want to be yourself with her happiness.No, that's becoming her. I'm no longer myself because I am "Matou Sakura", but I am not the Matou Sakura of the past. Rather, I am the Matou Sakura who has already experienced the past and is now living in the present. That doesn't deny her existence at all. No, that's only if I'm denying her past's existence, I'm saying I can enjoy being her without having personally experienced the pain she felt before because that's the best way I can think of putting it. I'm not avoiding her past or denying it. I'm embracing it, in fact, but that I am the "Matou Sakura" who has already experienced all of this, but since I wasn't Matou Sakura when she was tortured, I do not go through the pain, instead only remembering it because I AM Matou Sakura, and I have that memory. |
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CherryLover said: You're avoiding her past which is the same thingNo, that's only if I'm denying her past's existence, CherryLover said: That's enjoy being yourself in her place by eliminating her existence.I'm saying I can enjoy being her without having personally experienced the pain she felt before because that's the best way I can think of putting it. CherryLover said: You're not embracing her past you just denying her and try pretending to be her by keeping her memory. I'm not avoiding her past or denying it. I'm embracing it, in fact, but that I am the "Matou Sakura" who has already experienced all of this, but since I wasn't Matou Sakura when she was tortured, I do not go through the pain, instead only remembering it because I AM Matou Sakura, and I have that memory. Will you becoming Matou Sakura right now if you change your name to Matou Sakura? NO. Sakura is about her past, if you dont experience you're not her. |
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DarkLordofYuri said: Who would you pick?<br /> <br /> Me, no doubt I'd switch with Issei, because he gets cool powers, Rias, Akeno, epic battles, oh and did I mention Rias? You perv!!! Nah just kidding... But I do think many male anime fans would choose a harem anime, just to get some__. |
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JewellTH said: Nah she was raped by worms for 11 years, then raped by Shinji for 2 years after that.CherryLover said: <br />Matou Sakura. You'd want to be in the place of the girl who was raped for 10 years by her adoptive brother and was raped by bugs a year before the ten years?<br />  |
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-Mahesvara said: JewellTH said: Nah she was raped by worms for 11 years, then raped by Shinji for 2 years after that.<br /> You'd want to be in the place of the girl who was raped for 10 years by her adoptive brother and was raped by bugs a year before the ten years?<br /> and then violated by fake grail, she has no luck. |
-Mahesvara said: JewellTH said: Nah she was raped by worms for 11 years, then raped by Shinji for 2 years after that.<br /> You'd want to be in the place of the girl who was raped for 10 years by her adoptive brother and was raped by bugs a year before the ten years?<br /> I can't really tell the difference betwwwn Shinji and the worms, tbh. |
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