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VenariStrigas said: keragamming said: @venari the alt account. If I had read your comment before reading the chapter I would of thought historia just change our of nowhere, but oddly you took out the fact that what made historia change was her remembering what her close friend ymir said to her. Eren being all sad is understandable since he found out he ate his dad plus finding out his dad murdering his entire family. Sorry to disappoint eren is more human than you thought. Also am I the only one that remembers connie village being turn into a titan? Do people believe everyone in the village turn into a titan via injection? Rod licking the liquid actually confirm that this liquid was actually put in tap water or it was use in gas form since when the serum broke steam was coming from it. Yeah I omitted Historia remembering Ymir, but it still doesn't justify such change of behaviour. Historia didn't forget about Ymir unlike Frieda. How is that she remembers her words only after she said out loud she was going to accomplish her mission? My point is that Historia seems to have difficulties to think things through and tends to make rushed decisions. It's hard to believe in her sudden heroism when she was prepared to kill Eren minutes ago. About Eren, obviously he's sad. What I cannot understand is him asking others to take his life and/or left him to die. I expected him to ask questions about the past like Historia does. Instead, he seems to believe without doubt every word Rod said and blames himself for his father's deeds. In such a critical situation, he comes out as a whiny idiot. That's what I dislike about him. Historia was a broken shell. You don't seem to remember that what made historia go against eren is her remembering her memories of her older sister. Plus rod manipulative words just made ot worse. Ymir words plus her remembering frieda saying that they're criminals really hit some sense into her. About eren. I would've easily agree with you that he should have question rod, but one key point prevented that. And that's eren seeing his father point of view through his memories. Him seeing his father murdering a entire family including little children is what made eren truly believe what rod was saying is the truth. Plus rod did mention to eren and historia that grisha kill his family. So since he saw that during the flashback he knew rod wasn't lying, so its fairly obvious at this point that eren would believe everything else he said. Plus eren telling historia to eat him was him basically passing the baton to historia to save humanity. Don't forget that all this happen in minutes with all these revelation about his father. |
keragammingFeb 9, 2015 2:06 PM
keragamming said: VenariStrigas said: Yeah I omitted Historia remembering Ymir, but it still doesn't justify such change of behaviour. Historia didn't forget about Ymir unlike Frieda. How is that she remembers her words only after she said out loud she was going to accomplish her mission? My point is that Historia seems to have difficulties to think things through and tends to make rushed decisions. It's hard to believe in her sudden heroism when she was prepared to kill Eren minutes ago. About Eren, obviously he's sad. What I cannot understand is him asking others to take his life and/or left him to die. I expected him to ask questions about the past like Historia does. Instead, he seems to believe without doubt every word Rod said and blames himself for his father's deeds. In such a critical situation, he comes out as a whiny idiot. That's what I dislike about him. Historia was a broken shell. You don't seem to remember that what made historia go against eren is her remembering her memories of her older sister. Plus rod manipulative words just made ot worse. Ymir words plus her remembering frieda saying that they're criminals really hit some sense into her. About eren. I would've easily agree with you that he should have question rod, but one key point prevented that. And that's eren seeing his father point of view through his memories. Him seeing his father murdering a entire family including little children is what made eren truly believe what rod was saying is the truth. Plus rod did mention to eren and historia that grisha kill his family. So since he saw that during the flashback he knew rod wasn't lying, so its fairly obvious at this point that eren would believe everything else he said. Plus eren telling historia to eat him was him basically passing the baton to historia to save humanity. Don't forget that all this happen in minutes with all these revelation about his father. We agree that Rod is a manipulative bastard. However, Historia should have remember Ymir's speech about freedom earlier, the moment Rod revealed his plans. Instead, it took her too long to realize she was having doubts. It was not like Historia was being controlled by Rod or pretended to follow him (because of her speech about saving humanity). She did agree with him until the very last moment, then throwed a tantrum on him as if her decision to kill Eren was Rod's fault and chose the opposite path on a whim. She ended up being heroic but in a childish way. About Eren, it's true he saw the real facts, so he can verify Rod's version, but no one knows yet the motive of his father's crime. I'm sure many of us wonder why Grisha did that. The problem is that Eren doesn't even try to think about it. To him, he and his father are criminals and deserve to die. Case closed. I expected more from him. |
VenariStrigasFeb 9, 2015 7:47 PM
| Hell yeah Historia, awesome chapter! Could have done with a little less whine from Eren but still awesome all the same. |
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| Well now i understand more about RBY and their village. There really is no future inside those walls. Inheriting the first kings memories is bad. |
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G_Spark233 said: This chapter made the ending for last month feel a bit like a troll. I agree. I didn't pay attention to the fact that the button of the syringe wasn't really pressed for real. Although I would have liked to see how they would have dealt with the titan knowing somehow that it would have been Historia. The danger is not over though. Both Historia and Eren choose to act on their own choice. I liked these thoughts about Ymir, it has definitelly sense. Also Historia showed determination when she wanted to, so I'm not surprised about that knockdown. She even told good stuff. This first king ideology is distrubing, Frieda talking about sinners and everyone that inherits the knowledge becomes with a look which is kinda empty... This random bottle sure comes in handy...was Kenny shooting randomly in happiness after seeing Rod on the floor? That was funny VenariStrigas said: Unlike the other cases, the out-of-character moment of Frieda is more justified. Her sudden display of terror and anger implies that Historia was exposing herself to a danger when attempting to cross the fence. We still don't know what kind of danger is, but there is still room for a satisfactory explanation (notice the symbolic link between the fence and the wall). Frieda reaction reminded me a bit like when Historia told Frieda she wanted to be like her. Since Frieda looks depressed and not satisfied with her fate about having this knowledge she maybe wishes for Historia to stay restricted and to know the least as possible about the world/humans, something that's too late for herself? Just my thoughts |
VenariStrigas said: Yeah I omitted Historia remembering Ymir, but it still doesn't justify such change of behaviour. Historia didn't forget about Ymir unlike Frieda. How is that she remembers her words only after she said out loud she was going to accomplish her mission? My point is that Historia seems to have difficulties to think things through and tends to make rushed decisions. It's hard to believe in her sudden heroism when she was prepared to kill Eren minutes ago. keragamming said: Historia was a broken shell. You don't seem to remember that what made historia go against eren is her remembering her memories of her older sister. Plus rod manipulative words just made ot worse. Ymir words plus her remembering frieda saying that they're criminals really hit some sense into her. At first I thought it was too abrupt as well, but she had no time left anymore, with that syringe that was the last moment for her to do that kind of choice so maybe rethinking about ymir in such situation may not be too forced. What I'm still not completely convinced is her previous behavior. While it seemed true (willing to believie Rod that is) that saving humanity with Eren was not possible, I would have expected more hesitation before going against him, since it was his father's fault and not Eren's fault for what happened to her sister. Or rather, expected less determination when she replied to Kenny. Some of her faces towards Eren were definitelly weird, so I felt like she really didn't care for him, even when saving the rest of humanity. This new chapter seemed to turn the table around it though, a bit. |
| @venari To each their own. Just keep in mind that we are the audience we have all the time to think. In the snk world everything happens in just minutes. If I was in eren shoes I would have probably believe after seeing my father slaughtering an entire family, but I definitely wouldn't want to die though. Lol |
| Historia went Hulk on Rod Reiss. Ha Definitely excited for the next chapter. |
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kktheman1 said: To the people with the argument that she has been agreeing with Rod for the whole time and so it dosent make sense for her to change now. Remember this is all happening within a matter of minutes. Eren learning that he ate his father, all of this is happening fast. Also don't tell me that you have never agreed to something on impulse but when you finally think about it a few minutes later you realize the stupidity of it all. Iceblink said: What I'm still not completely convinced is her previous behavior. While it seemed true (willing to believie Rod that is) that saving humanity with Eren was not possible, I would have expected more hesitation before going against him, since it was his father's fault and not Eren's fault for what happened to her sister. Or rather, expected less determination when she replied to Kenny. Some of her faces towards Eren were definitelly weird, so I felt like she really didn't care for him, even when saving the rest of humanity. This new chapter seemed to turn the table around it though, a bit. Historia had plenty of time since the kidnapping to think things through and establish her priorities, but when she talked to Eren once again it's clear that she can't think for herself. Even if Rod was a master manipulator (I'm not sure about it), nevertheless Historia seems to be very gullible. Then, after learning about Frieda's fate, she clearly lost all respect for Eren. Everything suggested that she would really end up eating him (she even said so). While she did express some doubts, it seemed to be too little too late. In this scenario, it was very difficult to change the course of events in a believable manner. What bothers me is that it didn't happen. In order to save the day, Historia acted in a very unexpected, unconvincing way. When she kicked her father's ass and punched Eren's face while yelling at them, I thought she went nuts. Not cool at all. |
VenariStrigasFeb 9, 2015 10:01 PM
| Interesting chapter! |
[right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| Yeeaaeaeaeaeaaa atta girl Historia. To be honest I wasn't really expecting that! Good fake buildup on the previous chapters, Isayama! Oooh cry baby Eren, he might be a main character with the softest heart I've ever seen in a shonen manga, perhaps, giving spotlights to others. Ah that's ok. I'm currently much more interested in the mysteries of the memory rather than Eren's powerup. Showing such a side of Frieda now... What abomination might hide behind the origins of the titan-ruled world? |
VenariStrigas said: kktheman1 said: To the people with the argument that she has been agreeing with Rod for the whole time and so it dosent make sense for her to change now. Remember this is all happening within a matter of minutes. Eren learning that he ate his father, all of this is happening fast. Also don't tell me that you have never agreed to something on impulse but when you finally think about it a few minutes later you realize the stupidity of it all. Iceblink said: What I'm still not completely convinced is her previous behavior. While it seemed true (willing to believie Rod that is) that saving humanity with Eren was not possible, I would have expected more hesitation before going against him, since it was his father's fault and not Eren's fault for what happened to her sister. Or rather, expected less determination when she replied to Kenny. Some of her faces towards Eren were definitelly weird, so I felt like she really didn't care for him, even when saving the rest of humanity. This new chapter seemed to turn the table around it though, a bit. Historia had plenty of time since the kidnapping to think things through and establish her priorities, but when she talked to Eren once again it's clear that she can't think for herself. Even if Rod was a master manipulator (I'm not sure about it), nevertheless Historia seems to be very gullible. Then, after learning about Frieda's fate, she clearly lost all respect for Eren. Everything suggested that she would really end up eating him (she even said so). While she did express some doubts, it seemed to be too little too late. In this scenario, it was very difficult to change the course of events in a believable manner. What bothers me is that it didn't happen. In order to save the day, Historia acted in a very unexpected, unconvincing way. When she kicked her father's ass and punched Eren's face while yelling at them, I thought she went nuts. Not cool at all. So if we put this in real life. You're basically saying its impossible for someone to be out of character, right? Have you never read newspaper where you heard that a boy or girl murdered someone but didn't show any signs prior to that and they were basically angels before? Do you know why this happen? Because the person snap! You also said you find it out of character for history slamming rod to the ground. Now take a good Look at this www.mangabee.co/shingeki-no-kyojin-2015/66/19/ this is a manga not a anime, but it's pretty obvious that he's Shaking her with rage? Now tell me what would bw your instant reaction if someone did that to you? You would try to get them off. Historia did not just get him off she use what she learn in her three years training in case you forget. If you haven't notice isayama has a very strong cast of female characters he treats them just the same as the males. Also he doesn't make them useless like other anime/manga. Sorry if you thought she was a princess peach. She also head butted ymir in the back when ymir said something mean to sasha. Now about historia hitting eren. Are you kidding me? She's in a hurry trying to get him out and all she's hearing in her ears is eren pleading to get eaten. That's annoying! And I'm pretty sure you were annoyed as well. So she hit him in his head just to shut him up or to knock some sense in to him. If you didn't notice after that she was saying she is the evilless person in the world blah, blah. She was saying all of this to try and snap him out of this depress state. You also seem to not realise how big of a impact ymir is to historia. If historia was about to take the injection and ymir came in all of a sudden and told her to stop. She would have stop immediately without hesitation. I'm not sure if they love each other but one thing is for sure. They have a very strong bond. Historia remembering what ymir said before taking the injection and changing her mind all of a sudden is not farfetch for me, because I know how close these two are. Historia also remembering what frieda said that they are sinners is just added bonus to that. Maybe you need to read over the older chapters with ymir and historia to see how strong their bond is, and how just a few words alone from ymir could completely change historia opinion. Probably that's why you are so puzzled. You probably don't understand how powerful ymir words can be to historia. I'm going to make a guess that you're not really interested with either of these two characters or you simple just didn't pay Much attention to them. This is the only conclusion I can make why you and others find this change so farfetch. Sigh. I said I was finish talking to you but I couldn't resist. Let's see what new stuff you will come up with next. *roll eyes* |
keragammingFeb 9, 2015 11:44 PM
| @keragamming For once, you actually said something kinda correct. The only thing I agree with you is the fact of the typical shounen power of friendship saves the day. Yeah, in real life, friendship can do such things, but for god's sake, its so overused now, especially in this genre. Other than that, you're doing it again. I agree with @Venari more, though, because he made sense. I've been sick all week, and too lazy to deal with @kera, so I'm going to try not to say much, even though I want to. |
| "Hey, assbutt!"—Castiel, Supernatural "Do you ever have a problem where you just don't know how to reply to an argument-- not because you don't know the answer, but you just don't where to begin? Like, the foundation of knowledge you'd need to impart to this person before you could even begin to drag them out of their sinkhole of ignorance would cost thousands of dollars, if it were coming from a University?" -MAL in a nutshell. |
keragamming said: So if we put this in real life. You're basically saying its impossible for someone to be out of character, right? Have you never read newspaper where you heard that a boy or girl murdered someone but didn't show any signs prior to that and they were basically angels before? Do you know why this happen? Because the person snap! You also said you find it out of character for history slamming rod to the ground. Now take a good Look at this www.mangabee.co/shingeki-no-kyojin-2015/66/19/ this is a manga not a anime, but it's pretty obvious that he's Shaking her with rage? Now tell me what would bw your instant reaction if someone did that to you? You would try to get them off. Historia did not just get him off she use what she learn in her three years training in case you forget. If you haven't notice isayama has a very strong cast of female characters he treats them just the same as the males. Also he doesn't make them useless like other anime/manga. Sorry if you thought she was a princess peach. She also head butted ymir in the back when ymir said something mean to sasha. Now about historia hitting eren. Are you kidding me? She's in a hurry trying to get him out and all she's hearing in her ears is eren pleading to get eaten. That's annoying! And I'm pretty sure you were annoyed as well. So she hit him in his head just to shut him up or to knock some sense in to him. If you didn't notice after that she was saying she is the evilless person in the world blah, blah. She was saying all of this to try and snap him out of this depress state. You also seem to not realise how big of a impact ymir is to historia. If historia was about to take the injection and ymir came in all of a sudden and told her to stop. She would have stop immediately without hesitation. I'm not sure if they love each other but one thing is for sure. They have a very strong bond. Historia remembering what ymir said before taking the injection and changing her mind all of a sudden is not farfetch for me, because I know how close these two are. Historia also remembering what frieda said that they are sinners is just added bonus to that. Maybe you need to read over the older chapters with ymir and historia to see how strong their bond is, and how just a few words alone from ymir could completely change historia opinion. Probably that's why you are so puzzled. You probably don't understand how powerful ymir words can be to historia. I'm going to make a guess that you're not really interested with either of these two characters or you simple just didn't pay Much attention to them. This is the only conclusion I can make why you and others find this change so farfetch. Sigh. I said I was finish talking to you but I couldn't resist. Let's see what new stuff you will come up with next. *roll eyes* Were you waiting for my response? I'm flattered lol. So we agree Historia's having an out-of-character moment. I'm not saying her sudden display of anger is impossible. I'm saying it's improbable, especially coming from her. Frieda has one in the same chapter too (a scary one), but hers comes off in a more believable way because of the dark secret she's hiding. I'm aware that both Frieda and Ymir are very important people to Historia, but having her remember their words is insufficient to justify such a departure from her established personality. The same applies to others arguments I've heard ("shocked shell"). Badass-Armin said: I have to agree with you! This chapter was a swing and a miss. There was no flow, and after reading chapter's 65's cliffhanger it kind of makes you feel like "What the fuck is this?" Everything seemed rushed. Historia's bipolar mood swings are also frustrating. From good girl to bad girl to emo girl to daddy's girl to tough girl who doesn't give a fuck! It is getting old and annoying fast. I"m happy she turned on her father and decided to help Eren, but seriously this whole sequence of events was not really believable. Why the hell did she wait till the last minute to start using her brain? Shouldn't she have asked those questions a little earlier? Another thing how did all the others show up so fast without any of the central military police trailing them? I really want to like this chapter, but it just feels like a hot mess. The only good thing I pulled from it was Eren snapping out of his hopeless state and the fact that he looks like he is about to get a huge power up. Still, this whole chapter was pretty cliche. Indeed, the problem resides in her characterization as of late. First she was Krista Lenz, a very nice girl who was called a "goddess" by her peers. Then it's revealed it was a facade to hide her true self, Historia Reiss, and her crippling loneliness. Until then I was OK with that. But after reuniting with her father she became... a gullible daddy's girl!? I hoped it was just an act but it looked like she was really determined to fulfill her mission. I only could accept that if she ended up becoming a Titan and killing Eren. And now we have a BAD GURL ready to kick ass!? Historia has shown 4 different personalities so far! Way more than Reynier! @keragamming maybe you're willing to accept her erratic behaviour but I'm not. I don't know what to expect from her anymore. Quoting TV Tropes: "You can ask an audience to believe the impossible, but not the improbable". |
VenariStrigasFeb 10, 2015 8:24 AM
kktheman1 said: To the people with the argument that she has been agreeing with Rod for the whole time and so it dosent make sense for her to change now. Remember this is all happening within a matter of minutes. Eren learning that he ate his father, all of this is happening fast. Also don't tell me that you have never agreed to something on impulse but when you finally think about it a few minutes later you realize the stupidity of it all. Rod was manipulating Historia this whole time with the memory of Frieda and so she got on the bandwagon for the moment when he was giving her the emotional ride. The human brain can only process on avg 40 bits of information at a time and so her remembering all that Ymir told her in the moment when she was under Rod's words is nearly impossible. Also I'm pretty sure that learning that after becoming the Coordinate you lose a sense of self and your personality is enough to shock a character like Historia who is completely based on the search and attaining individuality and being who she wants to be not what others wanted. I'm personally not against what happened in this chapter like for example VenariStrigas but I still want to quote this, I think there should be a limit to what you could say despise the stupidity of certain moments. Taking out an innocent people should be something that should scare anyone, so I'm puzzled about it, despite this new mission and despite her sister there should be a "brake" for your conscience. When she replied to Kenny saving humanity sounded more like an excuse, she only cared for her sister. If it was Grisha in chain now then maybe, but with Eren I think it's a bit too harsh to even say that. |
| So this arc is reaching it's end, so what do you think is going to happen for a finale? Eren will propably use the armor in prder to protect his friends and then get out of the cave(i wonder if it's going to be a hard task to get Armin and Hange). But after that? Rod will still be there. Also keep in mind that the army is approaching and they will appear any moment. So in place of the chapel they will find a 60+ titan! How are they going to deal with this situation? Eren's 15 class titan, even with armor, is not enough to do something. So, could it be that someone, like the ape titan or the YRB group will make an appearance changing the situation to better or worse, or they will bet everything on the quite risky option of Eren using the coordinator? I really want to see what Erwin's call gonna be in this situation. Things would either end smoothly (like Eren making Rod crystalise and that's it) or hell is going to break loose once again(with a heavy death toll for the army) before everything is over. |
NameUnknownFeb 10, 2015 9:38 AM
| If you're here, can you prove you're really here? |
| Historia is a fucking badass |
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| The first time I read this chapter I too thought it was a really sudden change of mind from Historia, and then disliked the whole thing and called it bad writting from the authorand I thought he changed his plans based on the reaction of fans. But then after reading the coments here I decided to reread the last chapters to get a better grasp of the situation as a whole. After doing it I can say that at least to some extent it made sense to me. When I read the previous chapters I noticed that yes, Historia was being manipulated by her father and was indeed planing on eating Eren for the sake of her sister. But that was before Kenny's intervention. Kenny was the one who asked the questions Historia failed to ask and with this made her trust on her father shake. He was the one to give her a "wake-up slap" in regards of her father. The father's response to her question, Eren's and Ymir's words did the rest of the work. So in my opinion the main responsible for Historia's change of mind was Kenny. I still have my doubts on the matter but at least to me this part is reasonable. Eren's personality is harder for me to get because no matter how I try I can't find a way to relate to his character and story and thus can't really put myself on his place. I think I have at least a bit of knowlege on human psicology so I'm going with the people who say that it's understandable for him to be acting this way because of the overload of shocking revelations he received in such a shot time. When all of this end he will probably have a talk with Historia and will accept his "fate" as the main charater of the manga. But to be honest I didn't liked his new incoming power-up in the last pages. That little right there felt a bit like a Deus Ex Machina to me and I' just agaisnt instant power-ups like this one. But we can't say anything right now so better wait for the next chapter. As I said, I'm not completelly satisfied with the way things went. In my opinion Historia turning into a titan and eating Eren would be a great twist. She could then access his memories and ultimatelly follow his dream of freeing humanity, making her the new main character and also fitting the dark and twisted setting in wich nobody is safe, not even the MC. But I guess I can accept it and wait to see how things will turn out. P.S.: Did anyone besides me think that Historia's "enemy of mankind" speech a bit stupid, unnecessary or/and narmic? |
HominiLupusFeb 10, 2015 11:04 AM
HominiLupus said: As I said, I'm not completelly satisfied with the way things went. In my opinion Historia turning into a titan and eating Eren would be a great twist. She could then access his memories and ultimatelly follow his dream of freeing humanity, making her the new main character and also fitting the dark and twisted setting in wich nobody is safe, not even the MC. But I guess I can accept it and wait to see how things will turn out. I agree with this. But sadly, this is a shonen manga, MC doesn't die just like that. |
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robis798 said: HominiLupus said: As I said, I'm not completelly satisfied with the way things went. In my opinion Historia turning into a titan and eating Eren would be a great twist. She could then access his memories and ultimatelly follow his dream of freeing humanity, making her the new main character and also fitting the dark and twisted setting in wich nobody is safe, not even the MC. But I guess I can accept it and wait to see how things will turn out. I agree with this. But sadly, this is a shonen manga, MC doesn't die just like that. Do you know any seinen or series in general that kill the main character half way through the story? Because I don't. @venari what do you mean you don't know what to expect from her? Its pretty obvious her characterization is finish, the historia you see talking to eren is the historia you will see until she dies. Her character before was a push over Levi forcing her to be queen her manipulative dad changing her opinion on things. This historia is no more whether you find the outcome rush, historia is a much more stronger person now, and I feel she is now fit to be queen. So don't worry yourself we will probably not see that much of her in the series anymore since she will be inside the wall being as queen and not just a puppet. |
keragammingFeb 10, 2015 11:30 AM
| No matter what Historia did I think most people will still hate her anyway. I don't think her decision was that unexpected at all. Normal people change their minds all the time. One minute I want a burger, next minute I want noodles. One minute Historia wants to eat Eren, next minute she doesn't - I can totally empathize with that XD Ymir making an appearance is a nice touch. |
Drake1000 said: Great chapter but where did that titan armor potion come from? From the same bag she took the key out of. |
| Yes Historia! Great development for her. A titan bigger than colossal titan? That's messed. And they'll get burned if they go anywhere near it. Even Levi and captain Ackerman can't really do anything. It's been a long time since we got titan Eren. High expectations for the upcoming chapter. I look forward to seeing how useful the titan armor potion will be. |
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| I laughed a bit in this chapter. Krista's dramatic character change, Eren being a wuss and the concept of god. I'm personally not a fan on how this went out. |
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| Thank you Historia for not being a moron and listening to that asshole of a father you have. Although, Eren, be more decisive you piece of garbage. |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| That was something, I guess, although slow-paced. I hope the anime staff would fix the pacing as they adapt these last couple of chapters since I could already see the pissed-off faces of anime-viewers. |
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| Dat bitch Reiss |
| It was a good chapter overall but i the last page in my opinion was kinda asspull if it's true that bottle contained a power up formula. Just so happen that a bottle dropped from the bag and just so happen that it was a power up formula container and just so happen it was near Eren and he read it, and so on and so on. At least it was kinda rushed on that part on my opinion. Maybe the author didn't any other way to solve this situation? it might be. But i can wait to see how it's gonna play. 5/5 |
Flashoftheback said: It was a good chapter overall but i the last page in my opinion was kinda asspull if it's true that bottle contained a power up formula. Just so happen that a bottle dropped from the bag and just so happen that it was a power up formula container and just so happen it was near Eren and he read it, and so on and so on. At least it was kinda rushed on that part on my opinion. Maybe the author didn't any other way to solve this situation? it might be. But i can wait to see how it's gonna play. 5/5 In chapter 65. Rod said he choose the best titan that is most suited for battle. Which hints that he has more of this liquid transformation substance. Second thing. After historia slam rod to the ground she took the bag which contain both the key and the liquid substance. She run up to eren and She took the key out of the bag and begin trying to free eren. In the scene where rod transform. With the skull head upside down you will see the bag with the items getting blown backward since the breeze was blowing in that direction. And that's why the items were back there. You guys need to pay more attention. Btw its not a power up formula as you're suggesting. It can be use to transform someone into a titan. What this tell us is that if a titan shifter drink this substance they will probably gain new ability/appearance from it. So the samething eren bit could turn someone into a titan. |
keragammingFeb 12, 2015 5:36 PM
| so we will have armored eren now? |
| If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone |
Razuhiko said: so we will have armored eren now? YAS! |
| 八雲立つ 出雲八重垣 妻籠みに 八重垣作る その八重垣を |
Razuhiko said: so we will have armored eren now? No but Eren just might learn how to get hard now lol |
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keragamming said: Flashoftheback said: It was a good chapter overall but i the last page in my opinion was kinda asspull if it's true that bottle contained a power up formula. Just so happen that a bottle dropped from the bag and just so happen that it was a power up formula container and just so happen it was near Eren and he read it, and so on and so on. At least it was kinda rushed on that part on my opinion. Maybe the author didn't any other way to solve this situation? it might be. But i can wait to see how it's gonna play. 5/5 In chapter 65. Rod said he choose the best titan that is most suited for battle. Which hints that he has more of this liquid transformation substance. Second thing. After historia slam rod to the ground she took the bag which contain both the key and the liquid substance. She run up to eren and She took the key out of the bag and begin trying to free eren. In the scene where rod transform. With the skull head upside down you will see the bag with the items getting blown backward since the breeze was blowing in that direction. And that's why the items were back there. You guys need to pay more attention. Btw its not a power up formula as you're suggesting. It can be use to transform someone into a titan. What this tell us is that if a titan shifter drink this substance they will probably gain new ability/appearance from it. So the samething eren bit could turn someone into a titan. On this case, it's called power-up formula, though. For whatever reason it on the beginning a serum to transform human into titan but can make a titan gain an addition of ability is still uncertain. I understand there is more than one bottle on that big bag. But from my understanding, a PU and a Transform "formula" usually different, unless i am gonna take this like Bleach where Ichigo are everything. The thing that redeemed this was it certainly that Eren just took a gamble here following what Levi said. So at least on a story told sense, this convenient thing still on acceptable range, though i kinda dislike it. That said, is it means there are a serum that actually can make a human or titan into a shifter one like Reiner Co, isn't? Or i missed something. Old_Raven said: Unfortunately he didn't have anything to be harden up. XDRazuhiko said: so we will have armored eren now? No but Eren just might learn how to get hard now lol |
Flashoftheback said: keragamming said: In chapter 65. Rod said he choose the best titan that is most suited for battle. Which hints that he has more of this liquid transformation substance. Second thing. After historia slam rod to the ground she took the bag which contain both the key and the liquid substance. She run up to eren and She took the key out of the bag and begin trying to free eren. In the scene where rod transform. With the skull head upside down you will see the bag with the items getting blown backward since the breeze was blowing in that direction. And that's why the items were back there. You guys need to pay more attention. Btw its not a power up formula as you're suggesting. It can be use to transform someone into a titan. What this tell us is that if a titan shifter drink this substance they will probably gain new ability/appearance from it. So the samething eren bit could turn someone into a titan. On this case, it's called power-up formula, though. For whatever reason it on the beginning a serum to transform human into titan but can make a titan gain an addition of ability is still uncertain. I understand there is more than one bottle on that big bag. But from my understanding, a PU and a Transform "formula" usually different, unless i am gonna take this like Bleach where Ichigo are everything. The thing that redeemed this was it certainly that Eren just took a gamble here following what Levi said. So at least on a story told sense, this convenient thing still on acceptable range, though i kinda dislike it. That said, is it means there are a serum that actually can make a human or titan into a shifter one like Reiner Co, isn't? Or i missed something. Old_Raven said: Unfortunately he didn't have anything to be harden up. XDNo but Eren just might learn how to get hard now lol No. This serum cannot turn someone into a titan shifter. It will only turn them into a mindless titan. Rb also hinted that they had to eat a titan shifter to become normal again. As bertholdt said eren doesn't remember in the giant forest tree. I don't know about you but when rod brought these serum the first thong that comes to mind is if eren injects some of this in him what will happen? Well we will find out next chapter. It was also pretty obvious that eren can't learn hardening when he was testing his titan form in chapter 53. I was thinking that he would have to eat Annie to get her powers. :( thank god that wasn't the case. :D so we can finally seal up wall Maria and see what's in the basement. |
| Historia is so badasssss! |
Old_Raven said: Ba dum tssRazuhiko said: so we will have armored eren now? No but Eren just might learn how to get hard now lol |
| I have been wondering something regarding the royal bloodline. According to Pixis the royal bloodline has been around for 2000 years. According to Rod though, the first Reiss king was the one when the walls were made. With the memory manipulation it could be possible to spread false information and let people think that the royal bloodline has been ruling for over than 2000 years. The thing is though, that we have the title of the first chapter "to you in 2000 years", which i believe is somewhat connected to Pixis' statement. Something must have happened 2000 years ago. And according to what Rod said it mustn't be the beginning of the Reiss' bloodline rule. Of course it could mean that the Reiss have been around for 2000 years and they became the royal family when the walls were built. But still, i find that there is something off here. There must be more than that. |
| If you're here, can you prove you're really here? |
| I feel relieved now...*Actually screaming Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!while purposely disturbing neighbors* What I am currently thinking : Historia is best at tricking the readers indeed ...(not all of them though ) Historia saves the day !!!!!!!!!who gets saved by Mikasa that just ruins the savior's moment Eren , what a sudden change but that's how you pull the strings of emotions Rod Reiss is just insane Levi always appears at the right timing , doesn't he ?( except in No Regrets ..sulking still ) Mikasa , where the hell you appear from ? Wait this means the Ackermanns always appear at the dramatic scenes Jean, a lame insult at the wrong time ( Just like the Horseface he is ) Connie- WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KEYS ? Armored Bottle - Magically appears ( either wasn't paying attention or it just appeared) But I am still happy about this chapter!!!!!!!!!! No, I am not being negative...slightly Its was pretty good and At first I was scared from Chapter 65 thinking OUR MAIN PROTAGONIST WAS GOING TO DIE LIKE THE SUICIDAL MANIAC HE IS ! But like I said I am relieved... Still Wondering, WHAT HAPPENED TO HANJI!!!!!!!!! If there are Grammar Mistakes or if I spelled the names wrong, sorry !!! Hopeful Predictions For the Next Chapter : Armin and Hanji arrive in a very badass way (a slim chance but I can dream ) A smack in the face ( literally ) Sorry, to keep editing but the best part to me when was Levi referenced back to the Female Titan Arc |
BringItOnAnimeFeb 16, 2015 4:52 AM
| I always knew Historia was just playing the dumb kid. And YMIIIIRR <3 Also Big Titan Boss Battle HYPE! |
FaolanOkumura said: EDIT: Yes, where the hell did that Armoured Bottle come from???? From the bag Historia took from Rod |
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