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CookingPriest said: amateur said: Nah ,Sunrise already covered that one out with their other title Cross Ange. Plus its not like their last serious Gundam title,Unicorn, was anything noteworthy ,same revamped character model straight out of Zeta Gundam,nonsensical plot that keeps going back and forth and has no clear goal,spineless main character that steps into Jesus Kira footsteps with his "thou shall not kill" mentality.... Don't worry, no one in their right mind would believe Gundam Rainbow Unicorns was anything more than cheap cash-in adaptation of a fanfic. Bad troll is bad. |
| What is up with this anime. Why do they keep letting their "prisoner" run around and do whatever she wants. Was looking forward to a Gundam show with actual conflict not this halfhearted shit where they don't even kill each other. (N) |
Haytin said: What is up with this anime. Why do they keep letting their "prisoner" run around and do whatever she wants. Was looking forward to a Gundam show with actual conflict not this halfhearted shit where they don't even kill each other. (N) Gonna have to wait for Origin for that, sadly. This is not gonna be serious like most UC. |
| It was amusing and funny to see Bellri still grabbing Noredo's ass after he helped her and shove his hand away. Lol at the jungle animals too I really don't know why the Colonel was so calm knowing the four leaving away with the mobile suit. I honestly, don't know where this is going, but I'll stick a bit more 'cause, of its old school, nostalgic feel to it. |
MagitoOct 10, 2014 4:08 AM
| pretty good. so many random moments lol |
| This so Tomino. I wonder how many random side changes and Gundam 'stealings' we'll have before the end of the show. Still short of one masked antagonist though! |
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| Hmm I don't know. It felt just weird having a prisoner walk free and even having her get to the Gundam. Noredo being annoying @ seeing Bell fell for Aida. |
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| I think I would have hated this episode if it wasn't for seeing the Colonel being so nonchalant as they walked off with the G-Self, makes me think there's a lot more going on than we've seen so far and that this episode will make more sense with more info later on. I'm not sure why everyone thinks there's a war on, this ep made it clear that the Capitol Army hasn't even been inaugurated yet, I get the feeling there's more of a Cold War skirmishing going on and that there's a lot of political maneuvering behind the scenes that hasn't been explored yet. Bellri reminds me a lot of Garrod Ran from After War X, whilst Aida is clearly an idealist and probably getting used and manipulated because of it, since I doubt Ameria is going to be altruistic. All this talk of supplying solar powered batteries from a central space elevator is giving me a 00 meets Turn A vibe. Definitely a lot better than AGE. |
| People acting like the prisoner thing is crazy when it's quite clear the director, the pope and Bell's mum know more than they are letting on. Those saying it won't get dark because it was meant to be for kids clearly didn't see the second half of ZZ ( Don't blame you since the first half was to say the least painful to sit through). Chances are this will go one of two ways, a light hearted/ semi serious young adult series similar to those we saw in our childhood, or it will be a prequel for Turn- A (Considering what happened prior to Turn A and Bellri mentioning what happened with the horrors of U.C I'm leaning dark path) All things considered we are up to episode 3, most Gundam series are notoriously slow starters (Outside of Build Fighters) I've got hope for this series, I'm liking it so far but time its far to early to make a judgement as to whether it will live up to Tomino's other Gundam works. tl : dr most likely going to get dark, slow start... as the damn ep said ''Even if you don't want to watch, watch''. |
AliquesOct 10, 2014 8:11 AM
| 07:51 LOOOOL 09:33 dat in-mecha toilet bowl 19:23 close the freaking cockpit 6.5/10 for this episode. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| So will religion have a huge involvement in thsi story? Morning prayers, pope guy, the first episode even has a church scene after Raraiya falls out of the G-self. ninjastarforcex said: More like a prequel.btw has no one mentioned AMERIA? its the same place in turn-a i hope this is direct prequel with moonlight butterfly end |
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Primus2x said: So will religion have a huge involvement in thsi story? Morning prayers, pope guy, the first episode even has a church scene after Raraiya falls out of the G-self. ninjastarforcex said: More like a prequel.btw has no one mentioned AMERIA? its the same place in turn-a i hope this is direct prequel with moonlight butterfly end .... well, every gundam series are prequel to turn-a |
| Still enjoying it a lot. I feel like this has the potential to become something pretty big. And I'm pretty liking the weird Ost xD |
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| That scene at the end, wth? This is oddly entertaining still... |
Sigmund05 said: I can't help but hate this show. I really want to like it but the animations are so ugly and the plot is meh. I like the art style but they cant even properly animate explosions and there are random things in the episode that don't make any sense. A dolphin jumping in a river inside a jungle while there is a mobile suit walking in the river... really? The main characters don't have any real allegiance, and they head back to the pirate's base as if they are just going on a field trip. Weren't they fighting them just an episode ago? The commander lets a prisoner pilot the gundam so she can escape... Oh wait, they had tea just before that to get information from her instead of forcing information out of her. And they were satisfied with no information from the prisoner too... Even the mobile suits are stupid. A toilet seat/pilot seat, a fire extinguisher in a gundam, are some of the stupid examples. They should switch the director and the animation studio before this show goes down the drain. I thought it was a Bones studio type of artwork at first too. The director is the same that made Gundam-san, what did you expect? :) The good thing about Tomino is that he excels in self-irony as much as making awesome shows. That is, the dolphin shouldn't be in the river and teh MegaFauna shouldn't be a spin-off of how Shere Khan fell on Kaa, while Mowgli is piloting Gundam with horns, but if you are familiar with the man's sense of humor and how much we already saw from his Gundams, I'd rather say is a fun drive. |
| tomino must be surprised that anime fans these age judge every single damn thing badly. like people now watching anime to seek perfectness, not enjoyment -_- i bet at the end of this series, only UC fans remain while the others keep bitching and eventually drop or watch it till the end just to rant in forum -_- |
ex_necross said: I'm getting teary eyed by some of this shit dude. I missed Tomino so fucking much. Getting a serious urge to watch all of the 20th century Gundams again. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is REAL anime. It just doesn't get better than this. So far I haven't been impressed by Reconguista. There are other shows this season that seem far more promising than what we've got out of this one. |
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Sigmund05 said: I can't help but hate this show. I really want to like it but the animations are so ugly and the plot is meh. I like the art style but they cant even properly animate explosions and there are random things in the episode that don't make any sense. A dolphin jumping in a river inside a jungle while there is a mobile suit walking in the river... really? The main characters don't have any real allegiance, and they head back to the pirate's base as if they are just going on a field trip. Weren't they fighting them just an episode ago? The commander lets a prisoner pilot the gundam so she can escape... Oh wait, they had tea just before that to get information from her instead of forcing information out of her. And they were satisfied with no information from the prisoner too... Even the mobile suits are stupid. A toilet seat/pilot seat, a fire extinguisher in a gundam, are some of the stupid examples. They should switch the director and the animation studio before this show goes down the drain. I thought it was a Bones studio type of artwork at first too. A toilet seat in the mobile suit is genius. What else are they gonna do when they're in the midst of space? Mans gotta go when a man's gotta go. I do agree that the fire extinguisher was pretty stupid. |
| Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. |
| The toilet seat was one of the most WTF things I've seen recently. And was that guy at the end taking a dump for real? In front of the girls. Seriously?!! The call of nature must have really hit him hard. Jeeeez. |
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| I can already tell that if anything this show is going to be the kind that rewards patience and an open mind. I wouldn't expect that sort of thing to go over well with the average anime fan nowadays that outright demands instant gratification and understanding of everything that is transpiring. Personally I like a little mystery and fun in my shows so still having very little problems with this show and quite enjoying it. ex_necross said: I don't remember any bad dialogue from this episode. I guess the way pretty boy was talking about "injuring" people was kind of odd, but that's just grasping at straws. I think the problem is that a lot of people are used to a certain style of dialogue while Tomino is the sort of writer that likes to keep things moving along and if you aren't keeping up than that's sort of the viewers problem and kind of tough luck. There's nothing I can see in this show that doesn't make sense or that is confusing that I feel like we need to know about right this instance so I think it's largely just a matter of attention span. If people are expecting something like say an Aldnoah.Zero type experience out of this show where everything is very black and white and instantly understandable in all it's simplicity I'm afraid they aren't going to get it here. To me this show looks like it's going to be more about concerns dealing with resource hoarding, adventure, religion, human evolution, racism and concerns that are pressing in Japan at this time as opposed to strictly war and anime tropes. ninjastarforcex said: tomino must be surprised that anime fans these age judge every single damn thing badly. like people now watching anime to seek perfectness, not enjoyment -_- i bet at the end of this series, only UC fans remain while the others keep bitching and eventually drop or watch it till the end just to rant in forum -_- People just don't really have an open mind anymore and are really only open to a very small selection of subjects, styles and appeals that they're even really remotely willing to give a chance too. I knew this sort of show would never really go over well with people that are used to Visual Novel and Light Novel type stories that have created a certain expectation on how to handle storytelling and character development. To me the real problem here is the show just isn't as simplistic and typical of modern anime, it's very traditional which shouldn't come as a surprise from a guy that's been around the industry long enough to have worked under the tutelage of the likes of Osamu Tezuka who sadly most people here are unlike to even be aware of nor familiar with his legacy as the God of Manga and the guy that got this whole anime thing started in the first place. See in the eyes of Tezuka and his proteges like Tomino anime is for kids (the TV network is really fucking things up trying to put this at a 2:00 am time slot IMO) and they feel a certain kind of duty to try to instill positive values and ideas in the younger generation and tend to be rather critical of the failings of previous generations to make a better world for future generations of humanity. I can already feel that sort of theme at play in the framework of this show and am kind of curious to see how it tackles it cause I really don't think anime has done that sort of thing in quite some time. There's also definitely a sort of all or nothing approach to how people watch anime these days compared to how it was when I first got into it for sure though. Everyone always seems to be looking for that "epic masterpiece" type show or feel they've already found it on day one and thus by comparison everything else must be crap, and boy can the pendulum swing to outright crap in an awful hurry. Everything is always also a colossally big deal and there's very little room for just calm and collected introspection on what one is watching. Usually most discussion tends to revolve around one very specific little thing that happens as opposed to a consideration of an episode as a whole as well so you just don't get the sort of analysis you used to out of shows except in very rare occasions where you have a predetermined masterpiece kind of show. I'm not sure I'd say there's no attempt to enjoy anime anymore per se, but rather enjoyment seems largely predetermined by attitudes going into a show and kind of comes across as fake or just people saying the things they think their friends or other forum goers want to hear creating this sort of echo chamber effect. Also declarations of enjoyment tend to be incredibly over the top (leading to that "fake" feel) and based around things that to me at least really just shouldn't be that much of a tipping point between enjoyment, evaluation of quality and that sort of hyperbolic tortured reaction that a lot of fans love to give. |
PeacingOutOct 10, 2014 3:43 PM
| that was a good episode especially near the end |
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| One other thing I think people are making a huge mistake on is trying to look at this as the kind of show where you have a bunch of characters on one side and a bunch of characters on the other and that's the way it stays. I mean yeah you have your factions, but Tomino and Gundam at large has really never been about a sort of us vs. them approach so much as characters following the sorts of things they believe in and trying to maintain their humanity in the face of armed conflict and war. I will be very surprised if we get that sort of these are the good guys and these are the bad guys simplicity out of this show and where it just focuses on a simple war is bad and lots of people die theme. |
ninjastarforcex said: Its more like people act like tomino now cause that guy criticizes just about everything, pretty much every interview of him for this show was him bitching about something whether it be how the animation procsess has changed and voice acting hes been pretty much bitching and gloating he'd be improving on the supposed criticisms hes boasted. Thats pretty much the main reason i went into this with such caution is cause he sounds like a relic whos stuck in the past refusing to accept change and i believed that was going to negatively effect the series, it ended up feeling way more modern than i was anticipating i still cant shake the feeling hes trying adapt to the present and simply canttomino must be surprised that anime fans these age judge every single damn thing badly. like people now watching anime to seek perfectness, not enjoyment -_- i bet at the end of this series, only UC fans remain while the others keep bitching and eventually drop or watch it till the end just to rant in forum -_- Primus2x said: I hope so as religion is an interesting device not really used in any of the other gundam, maybe its religion can be based around newtypes or such which would make sense in context of this show's history. I just hope they dont play it off as a corrupt religion like in every god damn show/movie/game ever with its in world religionSo will religion have a huge involvement in thsi story? Morning prayers, pope guy, the first episode even has a church scene after Raraiya falls out of the G-self. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Eh, whats with the pink-haired girl joining the three that piloted the G-Self? I don't get it at all, she'll become a nuisance if ever. |
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Sigmund05 said: Even the mobile suits are stupid. A toilet seat/pilot seat, a fire extinguisher in a gundam, are some of the stupid examples. Uhh you do know that the Zeta and Rick Dias suits had built in sealant launchers as well as signal flares and fire extinguishers in their fingers? Most of the suits during Zeta ended up having them. |
ex_necross said: I'm getting teary eyed by some of this shit dude. I missed Tomino so fucking much. Getting a serious urge to watch all of the 20th century Gundams again. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is REAL anime. It just doesn't get better than this. As fun as the show is right now having the G-Self's seat, and other MS' apparently, be a crapper is something I didn't need to know. I guess Tomino having the MC take a dump in the G-Self is saying Gundam is the Sh@t or Gundam is Sh@t. Remember he did not want to make this a Gundam series originally. |
Holybum said: What was Bellri doing in the end with blanket? Taking a dump. MS seats can function as toilets in this series. |
| So I guess the main female character spontaneously breaks out some ballet dance moves every time she walks into a room. Right... Most nonchalant and laid back way to handle prisoners and kidnappings I've seen in my life. I guess it came as a huge shock when the prisoner who walks absolutely freely 99% of the time and was let into the super robot that can only be piloted by three people used said opportunity to get back to her base. Monday's treatment and handling is still as illogical as ever. Relationship between the leads is forced and as unnatural as unnatural gets. Just what the hell am I even seeing... This isn't old-school, Zeta for example didn't handle things in this stupid a manner. Hell even the original Gundam didn't have so much stupid stuff and it came out, what? 30 years ago? Characters are less likely to be hit by shots according to their importance. Falling bodies/objects are easier to hit (in fact for a pro it would be a fairly easy job) than flying ones using some kind of a propeller. It's funny how the rescuer lieutenant could make such precise shots on the wings of flying mechs but could not hit the falling one anywhere. Yet, what I find most amusing about this show is not its kid-oriented flaws but the way some hipsters and elitists that take a hyper-cynical attitude towards every anime they see and nitpick every single episode of those shows for stupid stuff now feel this is the AOTS and see nothing wrong/stupid here just because it is "old-school". Such a pity. I find the setting to be fairly interesting and want to see where the story goes, the art and animation work pretty well and at times it has a really nice feel. But they just keep ruining it with some frustrating scenes. |
| Well that's how most UC Gundam is like, especially Zeta and ZZ where a bunch of stupid kids (and adults) do whatever they like, even if it makes no sense at all and gets them killed. It's still fun to watch though, at least for me, Tomino has his own special way of doing things. |
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ninjastarforcex said: tomino must be surprised that anime fans these age judge every single damn thing badly. like people now watching anime to seek perfectness, not enjoyment -_- i bet at the end of this series, only UC fans remain while the others keep bitching and eventually drop or watch it till the end just to rant in forum -_- Are you saying that quality has no correlation at all to one's enjoyment of a show? |
CheesekaoOct 11, 2014 5:25 AM
CookingPriest said: *yawn* Still don't care about any of characters or setting. Still have no idea what the fuck is going on or why should I care it is going on. The art style is still horrible and the animation meh. 2/5 One more episode and dropping this shit. Harsh as fuck for no reason. |
iCards said: oh god i forgot he didnt want to do this as a gundam series originally, oh fuck we may have another victory gundam on our hands where he purposely tries to fuck things up, oh god now that wholeex_necross said: I'm getting teary eyed by some of this shit dude. I missed Tomino so fucking much. Getting a serious urge to watch all of the 20th century Gundams again. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is REAL anime. It just doesn't get better than this. As fun as the show is right now having the G-Self's seat, and other MS' apparently, be a crapper is something I didn't need to know. I guess Tomino having the MC take a dump in the G-Self is saying Gundam is the Sh@t or Gundam is Sh@t. Remember he did not want to make this a Gundam series originally. rumor makes alot more sense in this mindset |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
kurosaki_kabuto said: So I guess the main female character spontaneously breaks out some ballet dance moves every time she walks into a room. Right... Most nonchalant and laid back way to handle prisoners and kidnappings I've seen in my life. I guess it came as a huge shock when the prisoner who walks absolutely freely 99% of the time and was let into the super robot that can only be piloted by three people used said opportunity to get back to her base. Monday's treatment and handling is still as illogical as ever. Relationship between the leads is forced and as unnatural as unnatural gets. Just what the hell am I even seeing... This isn't old-school, Zeta for example didn't handle things in this stupid a manner. Hell even the original Gundam didn't have so much stupid stuff and it came out, what? 30 years ago? Characters are less likely to be hit by shots according to their importance. Falling bodies/objects are easier to hit (in fact for a pro it would be a fairly easy job) than flying ones using some kind of a propeller. It's funny how the rescuer lieutenant could make such precise shots on the wings of flying mechs but could not hit the falling one anywhere. Yet, what I find most amusing about this show is not its kid-oriented flaws but the way some hipsters and elitists that take a hyper-cynical attitude towards every anime they see and nitpick every single episode of those shows for stupid stuff now feel this is the AOTS and see nothing wrong/stupid here just because it is "old-school". Such a pity. I find the setting to be fairly interesting and want to see where the story goes, the art and animation work pretty well and at times it has a really nice feel. But they just keep ruining it with some frustrating scenes. I agree with you. They really know how to treat their prisoners. >.> |
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| Lets set an ever sliding scale of increasingly impossible and forced standards for the show to meet that it clearly never intends to in the first place and then point out why it sucks for never meeting those standards. 0_o |
Kaioshin_Sama said: when those standards are very basic and bare minimum levels of coherency which it fails to meet then its very deserving of those criticsms, no series deserves immunity from criticsm especially something as flawed as this has been so far, if it improves than thats great those criticisms will slowly fade but if it doesnt then it will stay the same deserving.Lets set an ever sliding scale of increasingly impossible and forced standards for the show to meet that it clearly never intends to in the first place and then point out why it sucks for never meeting those standards. 0_o |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Lets set an ever sliding scale of increasingly impossible and forced standards for the show to meet that it clearly never intends to in the first place and then point out why it sucks for never meeting those standards. 0_o So generic ecchi harem pandering fanservice anime shouldn't be criticized because it isn't trying to be more than what it is? |
CheesekaoOct 12, 2014 6:58 AM
| I think instead of blaming the Colonel for not confining the prisoner, there is a counter point that he treated her like a guest, which makes some sense if the objective is to learn more about the G-Self, which they should because they are the research division. Remember Aida is 1 of 3 people that can activate the mysterious MS, Raraiya's mental state is a mess and the third is of course our protagonist Bellri who has no knowledge of its origin. And while it appears that there was no resistance against them making it out with the G-Self, a missing detail in the discussions was the Colonel giving them directions to the cockpit. I have no idea why he did that and how it will help the research of the MS, but if it is up to the conspiracy theorist in me to make a guess, he may have a hidden agenda that we do not yet know of and by staging this escape and sending Bellri into the middle of the conflict that is building up, somewhere along there is a bigger fish to catch? Well no thanks to the show's haphazard presentation, I think us viewers might have to connect the dots ourselves but even that may be difficult without more coherent info. A couple of times I've noticed that when a character was about to speak more on a subject matter, he/she was cut off by some distractions thrown in and left things unsaid lol. Hopefully the plot and world view will begin to make sense later in the series. |
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