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Sep 28, 2014 1:00 AM
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Kyuutoryuu said:
Seriously, just as there are tons of fanboys to jack up NGNL's rating, so there are even more reviews with ratings under 5.

The need to put down popular shows is real here


Mal does have a certain "force" maintaining scores.

Especially with Madoka Magica

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I mean, NGNL has some good aspects (animation, OP), but also a ton to hate on, let me just list them: it's an ecchi, harem, lolicon anime; furthermore, the show is about the genius of two NEETs, but the show itself is rather unintelligent.
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because it's "pandering" and therefore you have bad taste if you like it and you need to show that off by letting everyone know your standpoint

or something like that, idk
Sep 28, 2014 1:43 AM

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Actually NGNL was one of the most enjoyable animes I have seen. I completely understand that the characters are stupid, it has no ending but I get that this anime is meant entertainment and I just don't give a damn about other things. So all the 3,4,5 reviews are from people who wanted something intelligent and serious.
Sep 28, 2014 2:36 AM

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And people who enjoy the show call out anyone who doesn't like it. What point are you trying to make? It goes both ways.
For real. I have been called an elitist, hipster and a person who doesn't like fun simply because I don't think it's that great.


Hardly surprising. You're one of the most vocal 'haters' of NGNL on MAL. It's like you can't let it go and move on with your life.
Sep 28, 2014 3:09 AM

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zetsubousei_hero said:
Review mean little to nothing because it's based on the person opinion.
By that logic, your opinion is just as pointless.
Sep 28, 2014 4:46 AM

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lol@people saying NGNL is average; other than being a 13 episode incomplete adaptation, there's nothing average bout it
if the average show was as awesome as NGNL, the world would be a better place
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hybreezy said:
Maybe I gave NGNL a 5 because that's the score it deserves (average)

crazy I know


I gave it a 1 because I thought it was the most otaku pandering garbage I have ever seen in my life.

FUCKING CRAZY, RIGHT?
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robis798 said:
Actually NGNL was one of the most enjoyable animes I have seen. I completely understand that the characters are stupid, it has no ending but I get that this anime is meant entertainment and I just don't give a damn about other things. So all the 3,4,5 reviews are from people who wanted something intelligent and serious.


I didn't want something intelligent and serious going in but I didn't want otaku pandering with lolis and reasoning that makes no sense. The characters are annoying not fun. Blank winning each round with logic pulled out of their ass is stupid, not fun. The only fun about the anime to me was the animation itself, nothing else. I don't find bath scenes with little girls fun, sorry.
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Sep 28, 2014 6:47 AM
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I will never understand why apparantly pandering = crap

I mean every work of media is aimed towards a certain audience, why is that so weird or in any way a bad thing?
Sep 28, 2014 6:48 AM

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Why is this thread not moved to NGNL box ? mod pls ...
anyway no matter what score or rank NGNL will get in the end, it will be the cancer of 2014. The negative reviews are made to prevent it happening, so we should be happy if we really like the show
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BlueXRam said:
robis798 said:
Actually NGNL was one of the most enjoyable animes I have seen. I completely understand that the characters are stupid, it has no ending but I get that this anime is meant entertainment and I just don't give a damn about other things. So all the 3,4,5 reviews are from people who wanted something intelligent and serious.


I didn't want something intelligent and serious going in but I didn't want otaku pandering with lolis and reasoning that makes no sense. The characters are annoying not fun. Blank winning each round with logic pulled out of their ass is stupid, not fun. The only fun about the anime to me was the animation itself, nothing else. I don't find bath scenes with little girls fun, sorry.


Lol, read the tag 'ecchi'. At least all ecchi shows I have seen have been everything you just described. So why on earth would anyone go watch ecchi anime if you don't find anything fun in it. Besides it was a complete comedy from the start, no need to take everything seriously. And ecchi also.
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robis798 said:
BlueXRam said:


I didn't want something intelligent and serious going in but I didn't want otaku pandering with lolis and reasoning that makes no sense. The characters are annoying not fun. Blank winning each round with logic pulled out of their ass is stupid, not fun. The only fun about the anime to me was the animation itself, nothing else. I don't find bath scenes with little girls fun, sorry.


Lol, read the tag 'ecchi'. At least all ecchi shows I have seen have been everything you just described. So why on earth would anyone go watch ecchi anime if you don't find anything fun in it. Besides it was a complete comedy from the start, no need to take everything seriously. And ecchi also.


It wasn't doing anything new, all the show did was follow common tropes. And if it does what all other ecchi shows do then why does such a show deserve such amazing praise? You're describing it as being like every other ecchi show. That means its average. An average on MAL is a 5. From all the praise I thought it would be better than your average ecchi show (and not every ecchi show has to be bad, I'm sure there are many ones that are actually entertaining), but I couldn't find anything that stood out. I went in it knowing it knowing it was supposed to have comedy but I can't recall a single part where I ended up laughing. That in all is not a good anime for me.
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Sep 28, 2014 7:02 AM
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Nothing weird here.
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HaXXspetten said:
I will never understand why apparantly pandering = crap

I mean every work of media is aimed towards a certain audience, why is that so weird or in any way a bad thing?
The problem is that NGNL is basically nothing but otaku pandering, it's a show that is the epitome of style over substance. It's basically everything that is wrong with the anime industry at the moment, but it was executed very well so it was hard to hate.
Sep 28, 2014 7:03 AM

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Do NGNL fans get mad at "Hurr Durr Mondaiji Tachi clone fak NGNL not orgienal"?
Sep 28, 2014 7:05 AM

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Do NGNL fans get mad at "Hurr Durr Mondaiji Tachi clone fak NGNL not orgienal"?


You're a fan, tell us.
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BlueXRam said:
xRatatosk said:
Do NGNL fans get mad at "Hurr Durr Mondaiji Tachi clone fak NGNL not orgienal"?


You're a fan, tell us.


Not really a fan. I just enjoyed it. I'm not explaining my rating scale though.

But to answer your question, no I wouldn't give a shit if I was a fan.
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JumpinJackCrash said:
Praland said:
Nothing weird here.
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Sep 28, 2014 7:13 AM
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xRatatosk said:
BlueXRam said:


You're a fan, tell us.


Not really a fan. I just enjoyed it. I'm not explaining my rating scale though.

But to answer your question, no I wouldn't give a shit if I was a fan.
Well there were many parallels to be drawn between them but Mondaiji-tachi's only real outstanding factor was the MC himself, whereas NGNL was more about the games themselves since the very laws of the world was based around it. Though they might have done roughly the same thing, NGNL does it so much *more* and more importantly a hell of a lot better. In the first place Mondaiji-tachi's conflicts weren't really much in the way of games.
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HaXXspetten said:
xRatatosk said:


Not really a fan. I just enjoyed it. I'm not explaining my rating scale though.

But to answer your question, no I wouldn't give a shit if I was a fan.
Well there were many parallels to be drawn between them but Mondaiji-tachi's only real outstanding factor was the MC himself, whereas NGNL was more about the games themselves since the very laws of the world was based around it. Though they might have done roughly the same thing, NGNL does it so much *more* and more importantly a hell of a lot better. In the first place Mondaiji-tachi's conflicts weren't really much in the way of games.



I wasn't really serious, and if I was that doesn't really answer it anyways.
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xRatatosk said:
HaXXspetten said:
Well there were many parallels to be drawn between them but Mondaiji-tachi's only real outstanding factor was the MC himself, whereas NGNL was more about the games themselves since the very laws of the world was based around it. Though they might have done roughly the same thing, NGNL does it so much *more* and more importantly a hell of a lot better. In the first place Mondaiji-tachi's conflicts weren't really much in the way of games.



I wasn't really serious, and if I was that doesn't really answer it anyways.
well there are quite a few people who do think like that seriously at least :3
Sep 28, 2014 7:17 AM

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So its ok, everywhere have to be balance.
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Well I feel bad for those people.
Sep 28, 2014 7:25 AM

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BlueXRam said:
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Lol, read the tag 'ecchi'. At least all ecchi shows I have seen have been everything you just described. So why on earth would anyone go watch ecchi anime if you don't find anything fun in it. Besides it was a complete comedy from the start, no need to take everything seriously. And ecchi also.


It wasn't doing anything new, all the show did was follow common tropes. And if it does what all other ecchi shows do then why does such a show deserve such amazing praise? You're describing it as being like every other ecchi show. That means its average. An average on MAL is a 5. From all the praise I thought it would be better than your average ecchi show (and not every ecchi show has to be bad, I'm sure there are many ones that are actually entertaining), but I couldn't find anything that stood out. I went in it knowing it knowing it was supposed to have comedy but I can't recall a single part where I ended up laughing. That in all is not a good anime for me.


Well, it's a matter of opinion. You don't enjoy these things, some of us do. You went into the series with an attitude, I went into the series not even knowing the genre properly and I actually loved it.

Soo, to sum up, there are people who like this type of comedy and can enjoy the stuff that is shown there, some of the people cannot, because they have seen god knows how many anime and are not impressed by it. I guess I am lucky I am not one of those people. And then there are people who genuinely hate this stuff.
Sep 28, 2014 7:33 AM
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Every anime has its occasional haters.
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Not everyone is going to like the same thing
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Differing opinions? Must be a new concept.
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Sep 28, 2014 11:00 AM

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There should be a law against people having different opinions... then everyone would get along and we could live in peace :D
Sep 28, 2014 11:04 AM

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hybreezy said:
Maybe I gave NGNL a 5 because that's the score it deserves (average)

crazy I know


+1
Sep 28, 2014 1:24 PM
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Celestrial2 said:
hybreezy said:
Maybe I gave NGNL a 5 because that's the score it deserves (average)

crazy I know


+1


I give this show a terribly low rating on the basis of hating.

I guess it is the demographic and trying to appeal to male gamers or those who likes seeing common tropes, exposed body parts of females and wishing to turn the brain off like K-On.

If so, perfect, in a critical sense, this can be a 7.

For me, this show was terrible. And the praise makes me question and give up on trying to make sense of NGNL ratings or reviews altogether.
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...You've been reviewing for a year, have a decent number of posts for the short time you've been on the site, and you're actually wondering about this? Wut?


hahaha at 1k being decent.

OP clearly has a life. Casual.

Someone actually responded after x amount of time? Btw, nice reading comprehension.

Anyway, like others have said, stuff like this tends to happen with divisive anime. What I notice is the flaws are usually blown out of proportion in negative reviews while the strengths are played to 11 on more glowing pieces. Take the enigma of SAO, which I cannot for the life of me figure out why it's so hard for level assessments to be reached.
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hybreezy said:
Maybe I gave NGNL a 5 because that's the score it deserves (average)

crazy I know

Score 5 puts NGNL on the 7160. place on MAL. Is that the place it deserves?
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Omumiruma said:
hybreezy said:
Maybe I gave NGNL a 5 because that's the score it deserves (average)

crazy I know

Score 5 puts NGNL on the 7160. place on MAL. Is that the place it deserves?

Yeah. because people rate shows on where they will end be in the ranks. not because of what they thought of it.
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Kinda glad it got down-voted so much. Don't get me wrong, I love NGNL and enjoyed the hell out of watching it but I don't think it deserved to be in the top 20.
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Okashi--chan said:
Omumiruma said:

Score 5 puts NGNL on the 7160. place on MAL. Is that the place it deserves?

Yeah. because people rate shows on where they will end be in the ranks. not because of what they thought of it.

Still you can't ignore that anime with the score of 5 are among the worst ever made on MAL.
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Posers have to crap on things in order to feel good about themselves, welcome to the wonderful world of MAL.
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Well, for some people, it's their honest opinion. But I do think hate goes a bit overboard.

We should all just have fun with our anime and accept the flaws. If you don't like the anime, just leave it at that. You don't like it, nothing more.
Instead, people rage about the flaws and like to show off their dislike for a certain series. People really love to put things down. They just love to hate. :/

Even though this hypothesis has been said the time, I actually honestly do feel that people sometimes blow up their hatred of things just so they can deem themselves "better than the thing they hate."
Haters who bash the fanbase for being idiotic would probably have the concieted mindset of "since I don't like it, I am better than all those fans!"
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Well we can all say the same to SAO...
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OppaiSugoi said:
Well we can all say the same to SAO...


But SAO takes itself seriously, like a serious anime. I mean there are drama moments and etc.

NGNL is just a plain comedy and never was anything more. Though it has more plot than Gintama, for example, but it shouldn't be considered as something more than just pure entertainment.
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My anime List is based on viewers ejoyment, not reviews.

So Madoka magica, I didn't like it and my enjoyment level was a seven. You must be saying what the hell, a seven is good!

No, my ratings are.

10-Masterpiece
9-Phenomenal
8- Great
7-Good
6-Average
5 and Below- Sucked or dropped

In comparison, it reaches the lower spectrum and while I give it a seven, I can outright say that madoka deserves its score but I couldn't connect whatsoever.

But this show, on a critical standpoint, it should be given a six for what it is and maybe a 7.5 for those it caters to, and that's it. But my enjoyment dropped below five and I decided I'd have more fun being struck with a chainsaw than watch the show. IT was terrible. In enjoyment and fun, I couldn't believe I lasted more than three episodes. A friend compelled me to stay but no longer, no more.
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PastellMahou said:
Well, for some people, it's their honest opinion. But I do think hate goes a bit overboard.


True, but it is pretty easy to distinguish between honest criticism and posers.

Though, to tell the truth, posers aren't the worst subgroup on MAL. That I would have to assign to the Puritans. Unfortunately this show attracted their ire all too much.
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My anime List is based on viewers ejoyment, not reviews.

So Madoka magica, I didn't like it and my enjoyment level was a seven. You must be saying what the hell, a seven is good!

No, my ratings are.

10-Masterpiece
9-Phenomenal
8- Great
7-Good
6-Average
5 and Below- Sucked or dropped

In comparison, it reaches the lower spectrum and while I give it a seven, I can outright say that madoka deserves its score but I couldn't connect whatsoever.

But this show, on a critical standpoint, it should be given a six for what it is and maybe a 7.5 for those it caters to, and that's it. But my enjoyment dropped below five and I decided I'd have more fun being struck with a chainsaw than watch the show. IT was terrible. In enjoyment and fun, I couldn't believe I lasted more than three episodes. A friend compelled me to stay but no longer, no more.


Yeah sure, u are clearly hating based on hype. SAO, AOT and NGNL 1, 1 and 2.

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eh to be fair it's not like anyone with an ounce of common sense takes the rating seriously anyway.. you have troll voters, people who vote at random, haters, hypers and then people who apparently just don't understand how a 1-10 rating system works (like people who think 5 means horrible instead of average)

even if we all used the system properly and all the haters/hypers/trolls magically disappeared the ratings still wouldn't actually mean anything worth carring about because it's just a collection of random opinions from a bunch of anonymous nobodies

that said I say let anyone vote however they want for any or even no reason if they feel like it... they're not hurting anyone, or affecting anyone really
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BRK25 said:
My anime List is based on viewers ejoyment, not reviews.

So Madoka magica, I didn't like it and my enjoyment level was a seven. You must be saying what the hell, a seven is good!

No, my ratings are.

10-Masterpiece
9-Phenomenal
8- Great
7-Good
6-Average
5 and Below- Sucked or dropped

In comparison, it reaches the lower spectrum and while I give it a seven, I can outright say that madoka deserves its score but I couldn't connect whatsoever.

But this show, on a critical standpoint, it should be given a six for what it is and maybe a 7.5 for those it caters to, and that's it. But my enjoyment dropped below five and I decided I'd have more fun being struck with a chainsaw than watch the show. IT was terrible. In enjoyment and fun, I couldn't believe I lasted more than three episodes. A friend compelled me to stay but no longer, no more.


Yeah sure, u are clearly hating based on hype. SAO, AOT and NGNL 1, 1 and 2.


AOT I hate based off of Hype. I could never look at that show again once people from non anime community was dancing to the theme song and people at my College hyped it up like the next coming of Jesus, impossible.

SAO WAS that bad and only pander to thirteen year old boys who likes video games and wishes for a broken character. If you want a strong critical analysis, I'd give it a 6/10 maybe a 6.5/10 It is not worth a rewatch.

My scores are enjoyment factor. I know how to review and I DID NOT enjoy SAO, nor could I find myself enjoying AOT from the Hype. And NGNL, HAHA that was on the same level of SAO. Besides, NGNL, I've seen it all before. It has nothing new to show me at all as an anime. I'm looking for a journey and not say, I've seen this before. NGNL gets a 6/10 for its community but I did not ENJOY the blasted thing.

Besides, isn't MyAnimeList based off of enjoyment? That's why shows gets high ratings because people loved the tihng and not really making a critical analysis?
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AOT I hate based off of Hype. I could never look at that show again once people from non anime community was dancing to the theme song and people at my College hyped it up like the next coming of Jesus, impossible.

SAO WAS that bad and only pander to thirteen year old boys who likes video games and wishes for a broken character. If you want a strong critical analysis, I'd give it a 6/10 maybe a 6.5/10 It is not worth a rewatch.

My scores are enjoyment factor. I know how to review and I DID NOT enjoy SAO, nor could I find myself enjoying AOT from the Hype. And NGNL, HAHA that was on the same level of SAO. Besides, NGNL, I've seen it all before. It has nothing new to show me at all as an anime. I'm looking for a journey and not say, I've seen this before. NGNL gets a 6/10 for its community but I did not ENJOY the blasted thing.

Besides, isn't MyAnimeList based off of enjoyment? That's why shows gets high ratings because people loved the tihng and not really making a critical analysis?


So, at first you criticize a show based on its hype, but later on you say that you rate based on enjoyment? Wait... What?

SAO "WAS" that bad? Yeah, well that's just like, uhh, your opinion.

Overall you're just a contradicting hypocrite who just yells for attention.
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AOT I hate based off of Hype. I could never look at that show again once people from non anime community was dancing to the theme song and people at my College hyped it up like the next coming of Jesus, impossible.

SAO WAS that bad and only pander to thirteen year old boys who likes video games and wishes for a broken character. If you want a strong critical analysis, I'd give it a 6/10 maybe a 6.5/10 It is not worth a rewatch.

My scores are enjoyment factor. I know how to review and I DID NOT enjoy SAO, nor could I find myself enjoying AOT from the Hype. And NGNL, HAHA that was on the same level of SAO. Besides, NGNL, I've seen it all before. It has nothing new to show me at all as an anime. I'm looking for a journey and not say, I've seen this before. NGNL gets a 6/10 for its community but I did not ENJOY the blasted thing.

Besides, isn't MyAnimeList based off of enjoyment? That's why shows gets high ratings because people loved the tihng and not really making a critical analysis?


So, at first you criticize a show based on its hype, but later on you say that you rate based on enjoyment? Wait... What?

SAO "WAS" that bad? Yeah, well that's just like, uhh, your opinion.

Overall you're just a contradicting hypocrite who just yells for attention.


I rate shows on my opinion aka fun factor and these shows are a reflection of how I felt watching them. Are you sadden by my hurtful opinion, regardless if it is true or not?

I criticize a show's hype because it becomes unwatchable. A friend of mine can't watch Breaking Bad because the hype was too real. This is a mere example. Watching AOT is forever impossible, combined with SAO. Oh, and this was when it was first announced, not after the fact so don't dare despise my actions when I was in the midst of this.

I was recommended NGNL free from hype and my amusement was dead. Lack of anything worth mentioning outside of colorful background.

Also, I rate a show on what it does to others in their opinion.

Rating:

Direction
Sound
Art
Characters
Writing(Plot)

And my enjoyment is a separate score.

For you to say I'm a hypocrite and contradicting doesn't mean jack when the one accusing me has a signature of the very show I'm debasing or explaining my criticism. You lack any ground to make me rethink my action or believe I'm blatantly hating. If you gave me an actual response in paragraphs rather than three lines of text, I might have took your opinion seriously.

But your opinion isn't an opinion, it is one driven by the show making you believe this was worth watching.

The need to have females pander to the audience and a completely unlovable main character who shares intimate scenes with his sister, creates a harem and somehow is smart when he doesn't go outside in the world and read books AFTER they beat someone who read a library worth of books. Poor, poor directing and an attempt at trying to be smart. The logic is pathetic.

Want a good Mind Game?

Death Note

Stein;s Gate

Code Geass

Utsuro No Hako- Or does watching anime assist you in not wishing to read a single page of text from a book and educate by the phenomenal logic given. Or will you give me another:

eh, that's just your opinion dude.

Have a good day and may you find an anime that gives you a journey and not this sad overhyped show of the year.
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LigoPriest said:


Overall you're just a contradicting hypocrite who just yells for attention.


you just described 95 percent of the posters on this board... maybe the internet as a whole... lol
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Liquidacid said:
LigoPriest said:


Overall you're just a contradicting hypocrite who just yells for attention.


you just described 95 percent of the posters on this board... maybe the internet as a whole... lol




You blew my mind. :)
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