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Nanodesu512 said: ok, I simply must ask - what is it with the characters and hating that kirito did so well in the bet test?did the guild leader think he betrayed them? did the leader fail to see that it wasn't kirito's fault? can't the leader forgive and forget? I get that the leader may have committed suicide due to his friends dying, but the whole thing with "beater/beta tester/cheater" (even though being good at a game doesn't make you a cheater) seems llogical. is it something to do with society or culture in japan? (I didn't think societal normals were that different there). although kirito has changed back to himself (from switching to a "badass" at the end of ep2 somehow) he seemed to jump about a tad? the talk with sachi about dying seemed to work well, but it just ended kinda badly, not really going into much depth. I know they've probably got a lot of story to squish itno a short amount of episodes, but this quick dispatch of characters (mostly using illogical moral reasoning, like the raid leader in ep2) stop me from really forming any sort of emotional link to them, so the sad ending didn't really work here (although it was slightly depressing when sachi died). I know they might be trying to simulate the wide variety of people you meet in MMO's and how quickly they disappear, but the frantic appearance and disappearance of characters doesn't do much for me. when kirito turned up to keita with bad news, keita immediately asked why kirito is still alive and not the rest and immediately grasped the fact that kirito was in a level beyond them, keita hated kirito for lying and hiding information which he knew about the dungeons which could have saved them and blames him for their deaths he called kirito a beater because thats what beaters usually do, they keep information all to themselves and lie and kirito couldn't deny the fact that he knew that the dungeons would be loaded with traps could of convinced them but he didn't want to reveal his level which might disturb the relationship he gained with them its not about the fact that you are better at the game, its the fact that you know more and refuse to tell others information that could save lives |
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kamikaze_1996 said: also scilica and lisbet are not pointless, scilica serves as a good intro to the and Lisbet introduces i wouldn't call either characters pointless and they fill in some of the blanks of what happened in the timeline of Aincrad Also to add to that they both show the different sides and types of people in SAO. Scilica being a mid level player, a tamer and a girl that gets attention and somewhat of an idol with guys wanting to form groups with her. Like you said as well the bandits. Lisbet shows the blacksmith/crafting side of the game and a little of the business side of SAO, also it showed some farming/hunting for rare materials to craft his weapon. They also help show other sides of Kirito and other such things. Yes they both have a place i think and are worthwhile. I liked both of their stories it helped show more of the SAO world and more sides of Kirito. |
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| Have not read the LN but was expecting the revive item to not to work as he intended. Should they die in the game, their real bodies will die as well. The time his guild mates got killed and for him to acquire the revive item is too long to revive a dead person. I mean they are literarlly dead in the real world. With the item being able to revive dead player within ten seconds after their death does this mean the Nerve Gear has 10 secs before it kills the player in the real world? |
Slicer22 said: kamikaze_1996 said: also scilica and lisbet are not pointless, scilica serves as a good intro to the and Lisbet introduces i wouldn't call either characters pointless and they fill in some of the blanks of what happened in the timeline of Aincrad Also to add to that they both show the different sides and types of people in SAO. Scilica being a mid level player, a tamer and a girl that gets attention and somewhat of an idol with guys wanting to form groups with her. Like you said as well the bandits. Lisbet shows the blacksmith/crafting side of the game and a little of the business side of SAO, also it showed some farming/hunting for rare materials to craft his weapon. They also help show other sides of Kirito and other such things. Yes they both have a place i think and are worthwhile. I liked both of their stories it helped show more of the SAO world and more sides of Kirito. Those flashback stories in LN did not work for me, because they provided details for already concluded plot. Anime had had an opportunity to change that and it seems to succeed, because there are people who enjoyed those episodes. |
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BuliTM said: Slicer22 said: kamikaze_1996 said: also scilica and lisbet are not pointless, scilica serves as a good intro to the and Lisbet introduces i wouldn't call either characters pointless and they fill in some of the blanks of what happened in the timeline of Aincrad Also to add to that they both show the different sides and types of people in SAO. Scilica being a mid level player, a tamer and a girl that gets attention and somewhat of an idol with guys wanting to form groups with her. Like you said as well the bandits. Lisbet shows the blacksmith/crafting side of the game and a little of the business side of SAO, also it showed some farming/hunting for rare materials to craft his weapon. They also help show other sides of Kirito and other such things. Yes they both have a place i think and are worthwhile. I liked both of their stories it helped show more of the SAO world and more sides of Kirito. Those flashback stories in LN did not work for me, because they provided details for already concluded plot. Anime had had an opportunity to change that and it seems to succeed, because there are people who enjoyed those episodes. it doesn't change the fact that their arcs were interesting to read, i also love their characters and seeing their perspective of things, also even if you think of their characters as pointless, it doesn't change the fact that they were needed in later volumes in some parts, also it would be strange if kirito went through the whole of SAO without coming into contact with a few people and not making any friends whatsoever |
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| Honestly I'm glad this hasn't turned out like half the LN animes, with the story being unrecognizable and plot being done away with, this is probably one of few animes that stays true to the actual content. this season. |
| well, this time I've decided not to judge very quickly an anime, but this one sucks, action in it is LAME, and the character, children o_O ... don't know where this will lead us to, BORING.... |
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| I really don't know what to say, I liked the 3rd episode don't get me wrong, but why do I feel that a lot of IMPORTANT scenes have been cut out of the original story? Sometimes I feel this series will last for only 12 episodes because, apparently, everything move too fast.. Or maybe it's just me.. I don't know.. |
monkeii said: falsaai said: I really don't know what to say, I liked the 3rd episode don't get me wrong, but why do I feel that a lot of IMPORTANT scenes have been cut out of the original story? Sometimes I feel this series will last for only 12 episodes because, apparently, everything move too fast.. Or maybe it's just me.. I don't know.. Its a 2 cour series. The SAO arc (vol 1 ~ 2 + side stories) will be covered within the first half, and the ALO arc (vol 3 ~ 4) in the second half this hasn't been confirmed yet though its starting to look that way |
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| This episode did feel a bit rushed (it's hard to cover 6 months of anime time in one episode), so I walked away at the end with mixed feelings and a bit of concern that the series would become episodic. But a couple days later... this episode is still nagging at me. Thinking about it, it really provides a very tragic vignette about the 'regular' gamers that the first episode kind of brushed off when they died in the thousands. Having played a lot of MMOs, I can see why it works so well: it's because online games really are that fickle. Random deaths just happen sometimes, even with great groups -- and it sucks, a lot... but not quite as much as it would if a random disconnect could fry my brain with microwaves. Given how serious this series has been already, there's a lot of room for it to be awesome if it runs for more than 12 episodes. |
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| okay, where do I start?... first two episodes were simply amazing and got me really interested. Then this one really failed my expectations. And the reason why is quite simple. as everyone said, it's way too rushed! at the rate it's going, I feel like its going to end in just a few episodes more. With that, there is not nearing enough time to expand on the ideas/concepts/characters of the game. I thought this would be in depth and they would make it interesting to watch, but suddenly I'm thinking otherwise. The second episode it showed how difficult is is to even find the floor master, let alone try to slay him. but at the start of this episode, it was said that the top group already made it to floor 28? wtf?! I mean really? I thought Kirito was the strongest, and even he struggled just to beat the lvl 1 floor master, so how did a bunch of noobies manage to pull that off in such a short time? And what was kirito doing while everyone else was clearing these floors? What's more is later in the episode, it said that he was on floor 49 with a bunch of people around enjoying Christmas. How did it go from floor 28 to 49 in only just half an episode? Everyone was all casually enjoying Christmas on floor 49, they make it seem far too easy to beat this game. If it's that simple, why did they make it seem so difficult on the second episode? I'm having a hard time grasping this anime and the speed that it's going at. Another thing that bothers me is the characters. What is up with Kirito? I just can't figure out what he is thinking about. it seemed like he had problems joining groups of people at first from what we saw in the first two episodes, if so why did he so casually join a group from the start of this episode? And why such a weak group? Why not join a stronger group of players, like beta-testers such as himself? whatever happened to that group of players that he was with in the second episode? and what about that girl from before that he slayed the floor master with? I feel like the characters are so weakly introduced and developed. Even the main character doesn't make any sense. He acted all badass in episode 2, but now he's all nice again, what's up with that? Why is he not trying to clear the floors or advance like everyone else is doing?This anime is making almost no sense to me at all. I started off good, then it suddenly took a turn for the stupid out of nowhere. I thought this would be a more through anime that covered everything in depth step by step, I feel like it could have been really successful as well if only it knew how to pace and develop the story/characters better. This is ridiculous! why do animes like one piece, bleach, naruto go on for hundreds of episodes when most animes are only just a few episodes long? Why don't animes try to be more successful or make an anime worth watching? The problem is that the retarded creators don't know how to pace themselves of make a decent well developed story with characters. All in all, I'm disappointed with this anime. I'll keep watching it, but only just because I'm curious to see where it will go from here if nothing else. I can't recommend or rate it very high though because of all the reasons I mentioned. |
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5HAD0WFREAK said: okay, where do I start?... first two episodes were simply amazing and got me really interested. Then this one really failed my expectations. And the reason why is quite simple. as everyone said, it's way too rushed! at the rate it's going, I feel like its going to end in just a few episodes more. With that, there is not nearing enough time to expand on the ideas/concepts/characters of the game. I thought this would be in depth and they would make it interesting to watch, but suddenly I'm thinking otherwise. The second episode it showed how difficult is is to even find the floor master, let alone try to slay him. but at the start of this episode, it was said that the top group already made it to floor 28? wtf?! I mean really? I thought Kirito was the strongest, and even he struggled just to beat the lvl 1 floor master, so how did a bunch of noobies manage to pull that off in such a short time? And what was kirito doing while everyone else was clearing these floors? What's more is later in the episode, it said that he was on floor 49 with a bunch of people around enjoying Christmas. How did it go from floor 28 to 49 in only just half an episode? Everyone was all casually enjoying Christmas on floor 49, they make it seem far too easy to beat this game. If it's that simple, why did they make it seem so difficult on the second episode? I'm having a hard time grasping this anime and the speed that it's going at. Another thing that bothers me is the characters. What is up with Kirito? I just can't figure out what he is thinking about. it seemed like he had problems joining groups of people at first from what we saw in the first two episodes, if so why did he so casually join a group from the start of this episode? And why such a weak group? Why not join a stronger group of players, like beta-testers such as himself? whatever happened to that group of players that he was with in the second episode? and what about that girl from before that he slayed the floor master with? I feel like the characters are so weakly introduced and developed. Even the main character doesn't make any sense. He acted all badass in episode 2, but now he's all nice again, what's up with that? Why is he not trying to clear the floors or advance like everyone else is doing?This anime is making almost no sense to me at all. I started off good, then it suddenly took a turn for the stupid out of nowhere. I thought this would be a more through anime that covered everything in depth step by step, I feel like it could have been really successful as well if only it knew how to pace and develop the story/characters better. This is ridiculous! why do animes like one piece, bleach, naruto go on for hundreds of episodes when most animes are only just a few episodes long? Why don't animes try to be more successful or make an anime worth watching? The problem is that the retarded creators don't know how to pace themselves of make a decent well developed story with characters. All in all, I'm disappointed with this anime. I'll keep watching it, but only just because I'm curious to see where it will go from here if nothing else. I can't recommend or rate it very high though because of all the reasons I mentioned. there were timeskips when kirito cleared the first level and when the black cats died, it is unclear what kirito did in the first timeskip but its assumed he was still fighting alone in the dungeons because of his high level and probably finding the boss room and giving the information to argo who would then give it to the clearing guilds, also there were tons of noobies in the first stages of aincrad but now more guilds have formed and now their are more experienced players, clearing guilds have been formed (guilds that fight the final boss) so they are now the people who clear the levels, so kirito is basically helping out in the shadows its already mentioned before why kirito joined the black cats but ill repeat and save you time looking through past pages, but simply it was because he was lonely, soloing for a very long time kirito had found a place where he could belong they rushed this episode because they needed to move the story along to cover the other arcs that are about to come, its not the directors fault or anything, its just that they were allocated a specific timeline where they can air 1 episode a week, so they can't just take their time and drag out all the arcs so some arcs need to be rushed in order to get the more important ones across, it happens quite a lot in anime adaptations so im just glad SAO got a 24-26 episodes |
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| Another good ep...so good it made me put Accel world on hold |
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| I liked it but bad end :/ |
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| I guess they did well to make me feel sorry for her in just 24 minutes. Though it would have had more impact after more time. Wasn't a bad episode 3/5. |
| This arc could've been great... .... What a terrible waste of Novel material... Wow... |
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Vhaeraun said: Having read the side story from the light novel, I contend that nothing was rushed at all. Say what you want about 'getting time to know the Black Cats', the only one we're supposed to care about is Sachi - and both the anime and LN do a good job at this. This episode seemed to stay rather accurate to the LN. The only thing the LN did differently is that this story happened in volume 2, and had been hinted at in previous stories. I tought the exact same thing when I finished the side story yesterday. I can't understand the talk about it being rushed. In the LN you also barely got to know the guild members. The only thing the anime really cut out was the extensive grinding explained by the LN, which would have slowed the pacing down extremely bad. |
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| The more I watch SAO, the more I feel the story is really rushed. Introducing a bunch of new characters to make them die right away?? I did not read the LN but I can understand people's frustration. I did not have enough time to get attached to any of those characters, also the way they died was fast and 'non-dramatic', so no tears from me, sorry. |
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Vhaeraun said: Having read the side story from the light novel, I contend that nothing was rushed at all. Say what you want about 'getting time to know the Black Cats', the only one we're supposed to care about is Sachi - and both the anime and LN do a good job at this. This episode seemed to stay rather accurate to the LN. The only thing the LN did differently is that this story happened in volume 2, and had been hinted at in previous stories. Please someone pin that at the top of SOA forums. Maybe it will stop those "they ruined light novel material" comments. |
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| Very disappointed at many too early reviews that gave SAO bad scores just because of episode 3...... it's just unfair |
| This episode was disappointing. I was expecting something 'bigger', but I still kind of liked it. 3/5 |
| Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. |
Kreon said: Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. He's in the OP.... Why wouldn't they team up again, it's like putting a dead person in the OP.... |
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Kreon said: Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. The LN also skipped the fight |
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TK8 said: Kreon said: Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. The LN also skipped the fight I assumed that. Doesn't take the way the fact that I didn't like it. |
zerotenshigg said: Kreon said: Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. He's in the OP.... Why wouldn't they team up again, it's like putting a dead person in the OP.... nah I would never want to spoil myself by reading the source material. I just want him to team up with Klein (or Cline, whatever) already because i like him. So i'm safe to assume that will happen later in the story? |
| If you read the LN, you'll find this episode too rushed. All the details that tell about the guild, how Kirito train before fighting Santa, his emotions,... that makes one cry isn't put in. Not so emotional, this episode. |
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| The repetition on this forum is getting old so I figure I'll ask these questions to all LN readers, just how high were your expectations? Did u honestly believe that It would match the novel? Just how many anime adaptions match the source? Also did u honestly believe that ALO had no chance at being animated? And even if u didn't u should have seen the possiblity on these very forums u complain on, that said do u honestly believe they can spread out details when 4 volumes are being adapted? Now then the last question, do u honestly believe u could organize it better? To animate 4 volumes in such a span is harder than u give it credit for, but then again it's always easy to criticize All that said u should temper your expectations because it's getting ridicioious how blown up they seem to be, as a novel reader I can indeed say its rushed but at the same as a novel reader I know other adaptions are way more rushed and that this anime at least gets the main points down, after all what anime really spells everything out, seriously there have been so many questions on this forum which would have never been asked if more attention were given, nothing everything is spelled out but that doesn't mean it's not implied, and for what's not implied u should already accept that not everything can be included, there were even people complaining about the bath scene in Aria, I mean is that really essential to the plot...if u really think about it for one having one epsiode to work with was it really that bad an adaption... |
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InfiniteDestiny said: The repetition on this forum is getting old so I figure I'll ask these questions to all LN readers, just how high were your expectations? Did u honestly believe that It would match the novel? Just how many anime adaptions match the source? Also did u honestly believe that ALO had no chance at being animated? And even if u didn't u should have seen the possiblity on these very forums u complain on, that said do u honestly believe they can spread out details when 4 volumes are being adapted? Now then the last question, do u honestly believe u could organize it better? To animate 4 volumes in such a span is harder than u give it credit for, but then again it's always easy to criticize ... The problem is that I am not a novel reader and I didn't like how this was done either. |
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TheDodo said: InfiniteDestiny said: The repetition on this forum is getting old so I figure I'll ask these questions to all LN readers, just how high were your expectations? Did u honestly believe that It would match the novel? Just how many anime adaptions match the source? Also did u honestly believe that ALO had no chance at being animated? And even if u didn't u should have seen the possiblity on these very forums u complain on, that said do u honestly believe they can spread out details when 4 volumes are being adapted? Now then the last question, do u honestly believe u could organize it better? To animate 4 volumes in such a span is harder than u give it credit for, but then again it's always easy to criticize ... The problem is that I am not a novel reader and I didn't like how this was done either. Those are preferences and tastes, but you don't go about and complain how the LN did it and compare the 2. |
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Vhaeraun said: Having read the side story from the light novel, I contend that nothing was rushed at all. Say what you want about 'getting time to know the Black Cats', the only one we're supposed to care about is Sachi - and both the anime and LN do a good job at this. This episode seemed to stay rather accurate to the LN. The only thing the LN did differently is that this story happened in volume 2, and had been hinted at in previous stories. That is so true. Even in the LN we still don't know all the members names. And I think I figured out why everyone is saying it's rushed. It's because they didn't realize that with a title named "Red-Nosed Reindeer," the focus of the episode was towards Christmas Eve 2023, and not the Black Cats. I swear, had the episode just began on Christmas Eve 2023 and continued as a flashback episode, a lot less people would have bitched. |
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TheDodo said: InfiniteDestiny said: The repetition on this forum is getting old so I figure I'll ask these questions to all LN readers, just how high were your expectations? Did u honestly believe that It would match the novel? Just how many anime adaptions match the source? Also did u honestly believe that ALO had no chance at being animated? And even if u didn't u should have seen the possiblity on these very forums u complain on, that said do u honestly believe they can spread out details when 4 volumes are being adapted? Now then the last question, do u honestly believe u could organize it better? To animate 4 volumes in such a span is harder than u give it credit for, but then again it's always easy to criticize ... The problem is that I am not a novel reader and I didn't like how this was done either. Yes exactly like me. Personally i hate it when people compare adaptations to the source I just didn't like this episode as much as the previous ones. I don't give a damn if it's being faithful, as long as it's enjoyable. |
Vizi_Reality said: Very disappointed at many too early reviews that gave SAO bad scores just because of episode 3...... it's just unfair Especially considering episode 1 was the only episode that was part of the main story lol |
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Kreon said: TK8 said: Kreon said: Didn't like how they just skipped the whole fight with mad santa :(. I also don't like the randomness in this anime. So Kirito happens to meet up with that Klein dude again? was expecting them to team up.. The LN also skipped the fight I assumed that. Doesn't take the way the fact that I didn't like it. Well, now you got to be careful. You didn't like it, or you wanted something that was never there to begin with? |
plushkinJul 24, 2012 9:58 PM
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Vizi_Reality said: People are just quick to love, quick to hate.Very disappointed at many too early reviews that gave SAO bad scores just because of episode 3...... it's just unfair |
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| I have not read the LN before. But i would also say that the episode is rushed. I hate how they do sudden jumps in the story, like the ending in episode 2 has not much link to the start of episode 3. And how the situation in the trap has no link to the next second which shows christmas eve. Too many jumps in transition. It totally cut the connection between the flow of story. |
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| the jumps in story ruined alot for me tbh i hope the next episodes doesnt do it so much so i can continue to love this anime |
jellyjar said: I have not read the LN before. But i would also say that the episode is rushed. I hate how they do sudden jumps in the story, like the ending in episode 2 has not much link to the start of episode 3. And how the situation in the trap has no link to the next second which shows christmas eve. Too many jumps in transition. It totally cut the connection between the flow of story. It's an adaptation, and they are animating the side stories, and those side stories aren't connected to each other. And about the trap. Almost all guild members died there, and on Christmas eve there is an event boss who drops a revival item. How are they not connected? You wanted to see the endless grinding in-between the novel mentions? |
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