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Aug 20, 2009 2:07 AM

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Battler: Even though you've appeared before me and can do things that are clearly magical I still don't believe in you!

....-_-'

And.....RIKA? o_O
Aug 20, 2009 10:56 AM
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Maria freaked me out ....rena or maria who's creepier? I think a lil girl is more creepier so maria gets the point there :D
That ...rika freaked me out I'm watching next episode asap! Finally more killer lolis^^
Aug 20, 2009 12:16 PM

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Schwarzseher said:
Maria freaked me out ....rena or maria who's creepier? I think a lil girl is more creepier so maria gets the point there :D
That ...rika freaked me out I'm watching next episode asap! Finally more killer lolis^^

This anime isn't about killer lolis... or horror....
Aug 20, 2009 12:25 PM
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Zedrane said:
This anime isn't about killer lolis... or horror....

So maria didnt freak you out? O_o Okay....YOU're the killerloli here :D and not about horror? Uhm first episode 6 people found dead without faces cause they were torn off....mhhh I like your "non horror" xD too bad here it says "Genres: Mystery, Horror, Supernatural, Psychological" here :D
Aug 20, 2009 12:35 PM
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It's not supposed to be about killer lolis, since the source material of this series never had any killer lolis. Maria's creepy faces are just overexaggerated and unnecessary and have little to do with the rest of the series, especially considering that she is the only character that ever has them.

Also, there are horror elements associated with this series (namely the brutal nature of some of the murders), but that is not what this series truly emphasizes, as you'll find out in the later episodes.
Aug 20, 2009 12:37 PM

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JackFrost said:
It's not supposed to be about killer lolis, since the source material of this series never had any killer lolis. Maria's creepy faces are just overexaggerated and unnecessary and have little to do with the rest of the series, especially considering that she is the only character that ever has them.

Also, there are horror elements associated with this series (namely the brutal nature of some of the murders), but that is not what this series truly emphasizes, as you'll find out in the later episodes.

Yup. There are horrifying parts, but the majority of it is about logic and mysteries. Specifically those of the closed room variety. With plenty of suspense and mind fucking.
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Aug 20, 2009 1:30 PM
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One wise word one person told me:"Whatever"
Aug 22, 2009 1:15 PM

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I really didn't understand why only some of them came back to life, or even if they were alive, for the tea party.
Aug 24, 2009 9:04 AM

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Zilpzalp said:
Yes, Maria is a bitch and she is annoying as hell.

I would join the Maria fanclub right now if it weren't from VN spoilers.

I swear I hate you VN fans out of jealously.
It also adds insult to injury that I've tried downloading the VN several times only for it to not work.

Case in point:

That doesn't look like a working version of Umineko to me.

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Aug 24, 2009 9:10 AM

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That's just the English patch, you still need the game.
Aug 24, 2009 9:13 AM

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You need to download/buy Episode 4. (Episode 4 contains 1, 2, 3 and 4).

It's 1.37 GB

If you find Episode 5, don't get that one. 5 doesn't have the previous 4.
Aug 24, 2009 9:18 AM

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Saying is very easy. Let's hope I manage to do this time.
Yes, I am aware that Episode 4 contains the previous ones, thank you.

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Aug 24, 2009 9:50 AM

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I hope you can get it work (:

And it should be okay to join the Maria fanclub. Just don't look at the club pictures
Aug 28, 2009 7:29 PM

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ukonkivi said:


R-Rika-chama?:o



And oh all you little people who have played the games and read the manga, making all these spoilers and little future event related in jokes and references.



This.
You people are annoying beyond belief. Why can't you talk just about what you saw pretending you don't know what's next so you won't spoil the fun for others.

What part of this: "THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE." don't you understand?

Anyway suddenly i saw Rika from Higurashi and i was like WTF!. So the similarity in the titles isn't just coincidence.
So i guess now they will all be back to life and killed again until Battler discovers the truth or admits that the witch is doing it? That's too much of a HIgurashi.
And i have to agree with noteDhero when he say that by putting Beatrice talking to Rika/Bernkastel is like they are saying to us that she is real.
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But it never said anything about discussing the VN.
Also, I know whats going to happen next and it is awesome. Even more awesome if someone invented small bombs.
DenwaAug 28, 2009 7:54 PM
Sep 3, 2009 11:45 AM
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I really like the way the show is going so far. With Battler trying to prove the whole thing through logic and all.


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Here is the "Most Suspicious Poll" for EP1

http://when-they-cry.net/Cgi/vote/umi_doub1/kekka.htm
Sep 5, 2009 10:04 AM

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Maria rants way to much, it's getting really annoying... through every episode i kept hoping she dies, but no. The ending was much to confusing, are they dead, or what..? There's a witch who looks sorta like Rika from Higurashi, who talks directly to the viewer. Battler is the one person in the show who i care for and is the most logical. I want him to figure it out, because if it was all done by Beatrice, then it would be much to boring. I really just want them to point at Maria and go: "SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING SHE DRAWS THE SYMBOLS ON THE DOORS IT MUST BE HER!!" That would be the best thing ever... :D Yet, there's only one way to find out what really happens next. *continues marathon*
Sep 7, 2009 12:03 PM

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The post is filled with people who don't know how to shut up about the VN. WHICH IS NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS THE ANIME.

Anyway, completely confused.... So was that Rika at the end?
I kinda wanted to believe that witches don't exist, but they had to go and show that scene at the end. Way to go... Guess I'll be rooting for the losing team then.
Sep 8, 2009 12:23 AM

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Beatrice is the old fart cross dressed, case closed. jkn

If Batter wanted to know if there really was 19 persons in the island all he had to do was kill everybody.
If he survived, then the culprit was one of the 18 persons inside the mansion.

Jokes aside. I deny Beatrice's existance as well...
Everything there could be done by humans.
Sep 8, 2009 4:38 AM

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Sep 8, 2009 10:35 PM

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Woah, I'm really confused now. What just happened? :|
Sep 25, 2009 9:54 PM

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So, the character at the very end of Kai was Bern I take it?
Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM

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Starrlightx3 said:
Woah, I'm really confused now. What just happened? :|


Me too. >.<
Didn't really get this episode at all.

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Nov 7, 2009 2:26 PM

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We don't really know what happened, but Beatrice's appearance was cool, and Battler's resolve even cooler.
Nov 10, 2009 10:52 AM

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Why did some ppl ressurect and is that rika at the end?? Wtf is 'bern'?
Nov 10, 2009 11:02 AM

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arnxx said:
Why did some ppl ressurect and is that rika at the end?? Wtf is 'bern'?


No, that was not Rika. 'Bern' is a nickname for Bernkastel, which is that person in the end.
Nov 11, 2009 5:15 PM

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Great episode, and much better pacing than the previous ones. Eagerly awaiting to watch part 2 ^^.
Nov 13, 2009 11:26 AM

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I am prolly the only one that has missed something...to whom did Bern speak to?
First arch finished, man I see the Higurashi style here that keeps me watching :D
Nov 13, 2009 11:46 AM

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F4it said:
I am prolly the only one that has missed something...
I'd say you are prolly not, if only you read the posts in this thread~ ;-)
Jan 2, 2010 1:19 PM

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Okay, what the fuck is going on? So witches really exist? What the hell? Why did all the dead people returned alive? Who was that purple haired girl in the end? Was it like Rika from Higurashi? What the penis was that?! and wasn't that girl "Beatrice" one of the master's daughter? Isn't she the mother of that guy who likes Shannon? or it's kist a look alike?

Okay, I'm totally confused. This gives the same feeling as Higurashi. I hope I get answers on the episodes that will follow. Oh, and go Battler-kun! I know you can do this, lol. >:3
Jan 2, 2010 1:25 PM

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Moonfrost said:

Okay, I'm totally confused. This gives the same feeling as Higurashi. I hope I get answers on the episodes that will follow. Oh, and go Battler-kun! I know you can do this, lol. >:3


Welcome to Umineko, enjoy your mindscrew stay.
Jan 23, 2010 5:56 AM

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Beatrice finally arrived... the interminable witch...
Feb 1, 2010 6:57 AM

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hmmm Beatrice's voice wasn't what I had in mind. She sounds so old, too mature for my liking (even though technically she's supposed to be over a 1000 years old)

Bern looks good, I'm glad Yukari is doing her voice.
Mar 14, 2010 9:54 AM

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higurashi add;


Confused..., so they died and rebirth even if they didn't found the gold? or what?
i know that the 'presents' agree with the note next to Beatrice's picture, because their lovers rebirth.
Apr 17, 2010 2:04 PM
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Feel free to laugh your heads off at me if what I'm guessing is completely off or something.
People were arguing about Anti-Mystery vs Anti-Fantasy. Why can't they both exist at once? It seems to me that Beatrice is using the humans on the island like pawns. Therefore, Beatrice, a witch, exists, and the murders were carried out by humans in ways that are humanly possible. Like Higurashi,


Just my thoughts. They'll probably get shot to hell in the next episode XD
Apr 30, 2010 7:28 PM

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Is Bern practically Rika in another world? Other than that, confusin episode. Guess I'm gonna have trouble with this like I did with Higurashi :D But so far I'm enjoying everythin.
May 8, 2010 9:01 AM

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aww her mother died!!! but it was all a story right???. . .or afterlife???. . .did it even happen!!!???... im so confused now!!! but i CANT keep seeing Kanon die!!! its 2 much ='( this is really confusing... and interesting... i guess... as long as Kanon is alive again ill still watch it ^.^
Jun 20, 2010 2:33 AM

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So I'm confused here ..I mean how the HELL did Shannon & Kanon get revived? AGH Is this some sort of a game that is playing the mind of Battler's because he didn't believe that witches exist? Seriously I refuse to believe that they exist too so I'm with Battler although I got to say that Bern & Beatrice are very pretty.& I don't know why but I have this thought that it's all Maria's doing.

But I was happy to see Kanon alive again until he died again .Also I'm starting to like Battler.He's becoming more interesting.
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Love is filled with mystery
Jul 4, 2010 4:48 PM

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Bernkastel = Rika-chama :o ?

Battler is kind of stupid , but it only makes me laugh more..
Aug 7, 2010 1:07 AM

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Starrlightx3 said:
Woah, I'm really confused now. What just happened? :|


Me too. >.<
Didn't really get this episode at all.


Same here, it's like BAM Kanon and Shannon are back then BAM they're all 'melting' away? Did they even die? I don't understand.
Beatrice's appearance was epic.
Sep 7, 2010 2:20 PM

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...This stinks of time loop. Again...


Dec 28, 2010 10:56 AM
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Okay, but why Kanon and Shanon exist but other people are dead? I don't understand... Are they illusions?
Rika as Bernkastel is very cute!
This episde is so exciting! And what can I said? I want more!
Aug 13, 2011 11:42 PM

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my gut tells me i'm going to be very confused come next episode, but when the series ends i'll be just fine, just like higurashi.
Jan 27, 2012 1:28 AM

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Did I just see grown up Rika? lol

I was sort of confused at one point but slowly caught on because of my experience watching Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. :D
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Aug 23, 2012 1:58 AM

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Damn, this is more confusing and mind-fuck filled than Higurashi.
Aug 27, 2012 4:46 AM

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where's the nipaa from bern lmao.....for those wondering if bern is rika...look it up in a wiki related to them lol :P
Oct 19, 2012 9:59 AM

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So Rika is in adult form and knows Beatrice and Beatrice knows Rika as some kind of powerful Witch named Bernkastel.

Oh know I was so sure this is not going to start from beginning but I guess it's going to go that way. My question is now that did Bernkastel made that alternative future where everyone was okay too. And because Battler couldn't solve the mystery in time she reset everything and now he going to solve it again. I don't know this is just crazy.

But that's why I love this show let's hear once more or who knows how many times Battler's theories again. Now if this going to be similar pacing like Higurashi let's see how long this is going to continue.
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Mixxu said:
So Rika is in adult form and knows Beatrice and Beatrice knows Rika as some kind of powerful Witch named Bernkastel.

Oh know I was so sure this is not going to start from beginning but I guess it's going to go that way. My question is now that did Bernkastel made that alternative future where everyone was okay too. And because Battler couldn't solve the mystery in time she reset everything and now he going to solve it again. I don't know this is just crazy.

But that's why I love this show let's hear once more or who knows how many times Battler's theories again. Now if this going to be similar pacing like Higurashi let's see how long this is going to continue.

No dont try to solve this like it is Higurashi.Forget everything about Higurashi. Bernkastel isnt Rika.
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