Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Episode 12 Discussion

QcK_Dagger_HeaT said:
Priscilla might be the most interesting character out of the bunch.

Fappa said:
@Stark700

Here some extra information about her character from the first volume of the side stories. It won't appear in the anime and it plays at the same time where the main story is right now.

Apparently Priscilla is under 20 but was married 8 times already.

She can make fires bend to her will.

One time Priscilla stole Al’s sword and held it at his throat to show him that she could kill him whenever she wanted

Priscilla has a joy in watching young boys cry

Some quotes:

"Well it's true, and when I say it, it becomes even more true than it already was."

"Don't rush me. May you commoners instead lose track of time as you steal glances at me and are entranced by my beauty."

"I don't understand. Did you ( Al ) bring me another man to f*ck me because you're too weak to do so yourself?"

"I suppose I should appreciate you for bringing me a handsome boy-toy, but really?"

This "toy boy" was boring to her so she sliced him in two, just like that.

Al: "What did you do!?"

Priscilla: "He just sort of died inside man."

Al: "Do you really think that answer will work!?"

Priscilla: "*shrug*"

I love her too.

Fai said:

In Arc1 he did a considerable effort at blending in, manipulating the fact that he has multiple anachronistic items that seem like magic to those people and not losing his shit when trying to deal with Elsa situation, showcasing creativity and smarts. He also displayed a decent meta-knowledge due to being neet(Reacting to Rom's "did we get her" etc) , even though sometimes he was too idiotic despite that knowledge(taking too long to figure out its a time loop, etc)

In Arc2 we saw him planning and using situations to his advantage to learn more about the situation at hand, while using his wits to try to mask his problems. He also played multiple scenes nicely to his advantage, which resulted in Rem adoring him in the end.

In this episode he is suddenly a stumbling fool who does not know his place, displays none of his perceptive nature he displayed before and literally acts like a monkey.

Tennouji said:
You know, I seriously and totally loathe these traps in any medium. Thankfully I'm watching this because of the story so I can ignore that cat-trap crap.



Agreed. I don't have any slightest interest and liking on the characters until she appeared. Others are pretty neutral to me.

QWERTYFish25 said:


The trap didn't bug me one bit, I didn't even flinch though I wasn't expecting it. My question is why? Shock value? Just to get a laugh out of Subaru? It kinda felt like someone just laugh at their own joke.

belial said:


This sums it up. The MC is ruining the enjoyment of the plot

Noumu said:

I don't think it's even that bad, just take away his obsession for Emilia (it feels extremely forced and stuff like this just makes him look like some kind of creepy stalker) and he'll be fine.

Jagd84 said:


Why do assume the trap has have anything to do with Subaru? On that logic why you don't assumed that the old man who talked to Subaru for much longer had just as much to do with him?

Why can't catboy's appearance be related to his own backstory? The episode used it in a little light humor and then you make it out to be some questionable deal on writing.

iRels said:


Lol. Look what this QWERTYFish25 says. Hahahah. So stupid to criticize it. ... Haven't you peeple seen animal people already? Yeah, you did. Cat persons like that one are the most adored. They hid her gender (oops, his)? So what? Actually, it might've been needed to add humor to it. Because they're aware about what people like you think about this stuff. Even in a fantasy world, where it should be common, and accepted.

Raven_Wingz said:
Least favorite episode in the entire series so far. Only part I enjoyed was Rem and I don't even like Rem, but I admit she was very cute here..

Subaru was being stupid again. He's a terrible friend. Can't keep his nose out of anything. Again getting strange vibe from Emilia though, especially the "give me a reason to trust you" comment. She was REALLY quick to assume he was in cahoots with Ms. Thang. He definitely seems to come off as Emilia's personal play thing and seems to treat him like an inferior/pet. I like Emilia but..this episode has me doubting her intentions.

iRels said:
I'm calling it now that Felt is Priscilla's illegitimate child. It's only because they share similar appearance. Even the red eyes.

But there was also @Fappa telling more about her indulgence in sexual acts.

The show was more subtle, by showing mostly that scene (for now?):

Sure, she's sensual. But a dominatrix? In the first half she was shown to me as extremely condescending. But I wasn't staring at her cleavage. And that alone wouldn't be enough to deduce... Eh. (At least not for me.)

QWERTYFish25 said:

The trap didn't bug me one bit, I didn't even flinch though I wasn't expecting it. My question is why? Shock value? Just to get a laugh out of Subaru? It kinda felt like someone just laugh at their own joke.

iRels said:


Subaru does as he pleases. She doesn't trusts he'll obey her. But she already considers him a friend.

Tennouji said:


It's not about you guys whether you have problems with that cat trap. It's about me that I dislike traps in general. Like, for what? Yaoi bait? Fuck that cheap BS. The trap on SNAFU is the worst thing that ever existed on that series from what I've all watched.

iRels said:


So you've no prejudice against the cat girls trope? @Fai seems to. Guess I've made more of it..

iRels said:


Emilia seem to lack their strong personality... She's too pure. So she's less developed in 'dark', more serious aspects. Those candidates appeared to be strong individuals. Unlike Emilia...

Roswaal has his ambitions. By supporting her, he's supporting himself...

Raven_Wingz said:
Least favorite episode in the entire series so far. Only part I enjoyed was Rem and I don't even like Rem, but I admit she was very cute here. Seeing Rein again was nice too. Geez, I rather he was the main character instead of Sooberoo.

Kind of interesting also how the old man knew that Suber died many times. The plot prep was not bad, but overall seemed like a lull/setup episode and kind of boring.

Subaru was being so unbearably stupid again. He's a terrible friend. Can't keep his nose out of anything and has terrible emotional control. Maybe it's because he died so many times. This is probably the first time he actually ticked me off though..

Again I'm getting strange vibes from Emilia, especially the "give me a reason to trust you" comment. She was REALLY quick to assume that he was in cahoots with Ms. Thang. She must be a rival witch or something?

Suber definitely seems to come off as Emilia's personal play thing, because she seems to treat him like an inferior/pet when she is talking to him. I like Emilia a lot, but this episode has me doubting her intentions and alignment.

Tony_SansNom said:


Where the hell does she say that? I've been rewatching like 5 times and nowhere does she say this. Is this a translation fail in the english script or something?

nyariko said:



Right here (15:39). This is from HorribleSubs, by the way.

iRels said:


Strange what she said, or the translation? I said already that she said that because Subaru acted too much on his own. She isn't aware of how privileged he is. He acted on his own, not waiting for Roswaal [that should be considered more capable than him], to save the village. It was seen as reckless. Normally, a person from that world would...behave. He's a butler, but doesn't acts like one.

So these past experiences made her doubt she can trust he won't do something dangerous again.

iRels said:


Strength (of will) is also attainable through ignorance. What I mean by saying that she's pure, is that she hasn't dealt with the 'impure'. She doesn't understands a evil person's mind. If she were to, she'd lose such purity. The knowledge would remain with her. It'd be part of her. It'd tarnish her. It'd make her behave differently.

A person that's pure, wasn't 'mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material.'

Emilia doesn't takes on a strong front, for she lacks the confidence. She can't be certain that the person she is, would triumph against the others, that posses more knowledge than her.

The others might be good aligned, but aren't as pure as her (from what seemed to me).

Same with Beatrice.

Jagd84 said:


I don't think you know anything about her life to really say that though. If anything the fact she didn't trust Subaru immediately and deceived him until he prove his worth by nearly dying suggest she all too aware of ugliness of the world. Especially if half-elves hint being hated as much as the show has implied. Not to mention she had no qualms about killing Elsa if meant she could survive.

Tony_SansNom said:


Doesn't she say "llet me make you trust in me" or something like that rather? (=believe in me).

Btw i'm not refuting it, I'm only asking because I don't know myself and find it pretty strange.

Fodshello said:
well i hear the deleted a scene where
i mean seriously why would they delete an important scene like that one ?
i'm not sure 'cause that's what i read here ... i don't know anything else about this so try not to spoil anything
but is there any chance that they will return to this later on ?

Judgment526 said:
I don't think that line was translated very well. Having read the LN for that scene, the line was supposed to be more along the lines of "Please allow me to trust you," as in, Emilia already trusts Subaru, but is urging him to stay true to their agreement and not break that trust.

Of course, despite his good intentions, of course Subaru isn't going to keep his promise and stay put, and that isn't going to go well for him.

iRels said:


She didn't tell, for his sake. She did good. She might be aware that 'people do bad things'. But for what reason? She's aware that people dislike her, but does she understands the reasons (well enough)? She might believe she's being injusticed. But accepts it, for she might not want to blame others. 'Elsa is a bad person. So for her to not create more bad, I should...deal...with her.' This doesn't involves poking into the evil person's mind. She doesn't have to understand their motives.

And to make it clear, evil = selfishness. None can be truly pure. Devoid. Because the simple act of taking, tantamount to evil. Subaru wanting Emilia for himself, is selfish (evil). Even aware of the possibility that another might've wanted her. To make the decision, he had to disregard it. To not be considerate enough. So everyone's guilty... But some more than others. Those that appear to give more than take, are said to be 'good'. But the world's grey.

QWERTYFish25 said:
You can have strong or willful moments in your life and still be lacking in other areas that require quantities of it. Emilia assisting Subaru against a pair of common can't be compared to candidacy for the throne, especially taking into account she's being pit against other rivaling in power of various sorts.

Also Emilia didn't come to pic a fight with Elsa she simply was in pursuit of something lost to her and eventually found herself in the presence of an incredibly powerful murder, the reaction, if you are at least capable of some kind of combat would be to defend yourself or run if not.

Fodshello said:
well i hear the deleted a scene where
i mean seriously why would they delete an important scene like that one ?
i'm not sure 'cause that's what i read here ... i don't know anything else about this so try not to spoil anything
but is there any chance that they will return to this later on ?