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Jakerams said:  That announcement.No sure what that's from (don't know if it's this show... seems pretty wrapped up for me), but for anyone interested, it says (for those who don't have OCR software to scrape the text from the image): 続編 制作決定!! (Quick note for whoever made it: don't text widths) So, the question is: what does it mean in English? As far as I can tell: 続編: Continuation, sequel 制作: Work, production 決定: Decision, determination So, due to my rudimentary Japanese skills, I'm confused by the lack of grammar (it looks like a noun listing), so I can't tell you exactly what it means, but you can make your own guess (or, someone who understands this grammar could really translate it). |
| barely an 8 because the ending was very dry to such a good anime. |
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| I'm totally okay with everything that happened in this anime....EXCEPT the imprisonment of the best character of the series... Inaho was such a bore fest compared to Slaine. |
| if making peace was THAT EASY then they should have done it a while ago -_- , pointless watch |
Raziel1991 said: Why are still people trying to deny that Slaine was a villain? I know Im repeating myself but he himself admitted he was a terrible person at the end of this episode. the only reason i ever felt like defending him was because i thought that he had a good reason (or at least an interesting one),looks like he was just an idiot really sad that the only potentially interesting character had to be the worst he litteraly turned from beaing a nice guy into a war maniac without a reason |
Pazuzu95Mar 28, 2015 3:21 PM
| I'm still laughing my ass off that they literally pinned EVERYTHING on Slaine. Like, how is that possible? XD |
| The only thing I liked about this was Inaho's upgraded mech... "Oh no, the cameras are damaged... guess no future prediction anymore." "Oh no, my eye can't process high amounts of data anymore for some unknown reason... guess no future predicition anymore." Really? You know I didn't even dislike Inaho so much (compared to Slaine he is still a much better and more interesting character) but the ending was really anti-climactic and was really bad for the most part. You know, if you want to have multiple unique and actually really overpowered mechs on the enemy side, atleast give some of the sidecharacters their own unique or upgraded mechs or are we supposed to somehow believe that standard issue machines with much lower tech that needed wires a few episodes ago to effectively move at higher speeds in space can suddenly match the enemy mechs who can move freely in space in terms of movement? Because it makes for a real boring, unbelivable fight if single of a few human mechs can suddenly easily take on those that countered whole armies in the same series... And no it doesn't matter how skilled they are, because if the orbitals knights didn't suddenly become really shitty pilots, the stronger, faster mech always wins, espcially with this huge difference. |
| "The fool who believed in miracles now walks among the dead." ~ Blade of the Phantom Master |
MetaKite said: You mean Harlight and the rest of Stygis Squadron with Lemrina at the helm. Seriously, that ending was totally suspicious. What exactly happened to Stygis squadron? It is implied thay are dead, I believe. But that is reversible in A.Z. Makaze_no_Moujuu said: I'm still laughing my ass off that they literally pinned EVERYTHING on Slaine. Like, how is that possible? XD Look at Darklight and his grupees. The same way, I guess. |
DancingJack said: You know, if you want to have multiple unique and actually really overpowered mechs on the enemy side, atleast give some of the sidecharacters their own unique or upgraded mechs or are we supposed to somehow believe that standard issue machines with much lower tech that needed wires a few episodes ago to effectively move at higher speeds in space can suddenly match the enemy mechs who can move freely in space in terms of movement? Because it makes for a real boring, unbelivable fight if single of a few human mechs can suddenly easily take on those that countered whole armies in the same series... And no it doesn't matter how skilled they are, because if the orbitals knights didn't suddenly become really shitty pilots, the stronger, faster mech always wins, espcially with this huge difference. Yeah, that ruined the battles. The differences is speed, power, range, armor, abilities, structural integrity, maneiverability, available upgrades - nothing was taken into consideration, even though it must obvious exist between the mass produced and supposedly inferior terran kats and alien space-born martian unique machines. kymano said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: I'm still laughing my ass off that they literally pinned EVERYTHING on Slaine. Like, how is that possible? XD When people are desperate for anything to give them hope, you can use just about anybody, clearly the Counts aren't buying it. Also a convenient scapegoat that everybody agreed to push the blame at. |
| The only redeeming thing about this season was the soundtrack, which thanks to that I enjoyed the series someone. The opening was especially good. Everything else - super meh, and after such promising start. |
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Savethebestforu said: It's also funny to mention that Asseylum indirectly caused Slaine so much more suffering than he was going to get by telling Inaho to save him. Taken off of reddit: They kept him as the scapegoat since ep 1 of season 1. I mean honestly they are extremely cruel. They left him NOTHING(no friends, family, allies). and the blamed him for EVERYTHING since season 1. He also failed in all of his plans ever and wont let him die. He never had a happy ending in store but i hoped he could get some relief. nope apparently he needed to fail to commit suicide thanks to the princess and our protagonist. Makes this exchange even more poignant, seeing as she was the one who got Inaho to spare Slaine. Asseylum: I do not need a reason to save someone. Lemrina: Such arrogance...the suffering of those you save never enters your mind, does it? Save Slaine from the chains of misery = Blame him for everything and put him in prison for the rest of his life? Wow. Good find. |
| 10/10. One of the two main protagonists didn't die for once. HAPPY HAPPY |
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deadoptimist said: MetaKite said: You mean Harlight and the rest of Stygis Squadron with Lemrina at the helm. Seriously, that ending was totally suspicious. What exactly happened to Stygis squadron? It is implied thay are dead, I believe. But that is reversible in A.Z.. It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). |
| Glad this series is over, just rip dat "soundtrack" out and call it a day. The only characters I actually cared about were the supporting cast like Marito... and wait... nevermind just Marito. |
D3pthChargeMar 28, 2015 3:54 PM
| The most terrible part about the ending though is the part that it makes the whole series, the whole rollercoaster of suffering a result of unfortunate misunderstanding. Why couldn't they trade before? They held aldnoah drives as a strategic asset and didn't want to give it to Earth? But then only a change of views was necessary - the princess could push for it when she became a ruler, which was only years away at the beginning. All the shit happened because she was too impatient to go to Earth. If the plan is so good, she could offer it to Slaine instead of simply shouting "peace for all" or broadcast to Saazbaum from the shelter - maybe he would've liked it. Though the stuff with only her being able to activate alnoah is unsolved. And Vers did let go of its only resource. Will the prince of one aldnoah generator be enough to feed a planet? Normally it isn't enough for a country, and here the transportation cost would be insane. More importantly, if aldnoah is a relic of an alien race and some cores are even unique (or are they, since Dioscuria copies everyone?), it's logical to assume that they are limited in amount. Then selling them is dangerous. If they are unlimited and they already have dr. Toryards' research, why don't simple martians get the power and why can't they terraform (they even have kats, that manipulate the exact things necessary for that - temperature, gravity, shielding) or build rad habitable domes (water is mineable in the solar system)? Nothing is said about martians. That's so moronic... Makaze_no_Moujuu said: deadoptimist said: It is implied thay are dead, I believe. But that is reversible in A.Z.. It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). Sure, that's what I mean. They are "dead" for now. Though they are not so important as the "dead" from the end of the season 1, so maybe only Harklight gets revived for the sake of shipping, or maybe not. Yeah, I'd like to see Slaine saved and at the head of an uprising with Lemrina, Harklight and the rest of the knights. The problem is they'd be a purely bad guys with this kind of attitude from the writers. Normally I'd expect them to fight for martians, but martians are utterly ignored, so they can't be a cause, that way the reason will be personal - revenge and hunger for war, which is characteristic of the bad guys. Unless aldnoah overlords come. |
deadoptimistMar 28, 2015 4:02 PM
| All those romance for nothing. Dafuq I'd rather have someone died than this halfassed ending. |
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Raziel1991 said: I do agree that he was depicted like a villain in cour 2, but I really think we could classify him as anti-villain. Saying he is just a villain makes everyone think only in the negative meaning associated with that word, however, although he used questionable methods to reach his position, Slaine is not evil or a bad person, his gentle personality is not a facade and if something from him it is, would be his "conqueror" personality.Why are still people trying to deny that Slaine was a villain? I know Im repeating myself but he himself admitted he was a terrible person at the end of this episode. I think the creators of this show should have developed more of Inaho and Slaine, so at least they could brag about their main characters being great even if the rest of them weren't. So much wasted potential :(. |
blackbishop said: * People like Slaine? F'ck them. Slaine will be the punching bag of the series. * People like Slaine development in Cour 2? The bigger they come the hardest they fall. * People think Slaine will die at the end to atone his sins? Nope. If he dies we can't use it in new seasons/movies/ovas/etc. and we don't have/can't create better characters. * People like Inaho and they woud like to see him more developed? Too bad in cour 2 the spotlight belongs to Slaine. * People ship SlainexAsseylum? LOL no. Never. * People ship SlainexLemrina? Too bad he prefers her sister. * People ship InahoxAsseylum? Nice try, but nope, that ain't gonna happen. * People ship InahoxInko? Platonic love, because gentlemen prefer blondes. * People ship InahoxRayet? Who's that girl? Do we have a character like that? * People think Asseylum is bland? Let's make her blander. * People don't like Asseylum character? No problem, let's put her in the freezer for half of cour 2 and thanks to that we don't need to think how to improve her character(lol). * People don't like the Deucalion crew? Though luck, no one will die. * People like the Deucalion crew? As if that would matter, they will remain as plain as a drawing board(except Yuki-nee!). * Rayet was forgiven/given full trust too soon in some people's opinions given the actions she took? Ah, that character. Let them deal with it, no one will remember that anyway as the series makes progress. * People like the known Orbital Knights which are enemies of the Terrans? Too bad no one survives by the end of cour 2(hope they do though). * People would like to know more about Mazuurek? They aren't lucky because so far that's where his spotlight ends. We have to make place for Crutheo Jr somehow. * People wonder what kind of impact to the story will have Crutheo Jr if appears two episodes before the end? We need to marry the princess so she can become Queen(because somehow she can't be one if she is single and people wants her married by the end of the series... or dead, but we won't kill her lol) but we cannot use neither Slaine, nor Inaho nor Mazuurek as husband because that would please someone. Having an impact? Nah, you guys think too hard about it, he will just steal Asseylum from Slaine as retribution for stealing "his" Tharsis; but if you want to be philosophical about it, you can think about the Schrödinger's cat experiment: If he wouldn't exist she would become Queen without the three aforementioned guys anyway so, the more the merrier right? But I'm sure they will release a movie later, and we will return to our trenches when the time comes :). Well written, sire. I had some hope for the 2nd cour, but yeah. Shit happened. |
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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: deadoptimist said: It is implied thay are dead, I believe. But that is reversible in A.Z.. It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). There will be no point in saving him though, since Slaine has nothing else to accomplish really...and how do they know where he is? |
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| 5/10. Kept me entertained for my Saturdays. The whole show second season was a trainwreck from start to finish, but I still enjoyed watching the fights and listening to the OP/ED each week. The OST in battles were good too, art was nice. Inaho's personality somewhat improved but not by much. Slaine is still shit. And NTR ending. |
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| Boring ending. Feh |
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| Meh ending. this season was worst than the first (and the first was ''ok'' already :| ) 4/10 |
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| What the actual fuck? what a let down. i really liked the first season of this anime. But the second season is utter shit. episode to episode i was hoping, "next episode will get better" and when it's not, i convince myself "the last episode will satisfying" and it still didn't. what a waste of time. |
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| someone please add NTR tag to this show |
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| What a shitty finale! No one ended up dying. The action was terrible! In the end it the war ended due to asshime. What was the point of this second season when they could have done this in the first place? |
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deadoptimist said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). Sure, that's what I mean. They are "dead" for now. Though they are not so important as the "dead" from the end of the season 1, so maybe only Harklight gets revived for the sake of shipping, or maybe not. Yeah, I'd like to see Slaine saved and at the head of an uprising with Lemrina, Harklight and the rest of the knights. The problem is they'd be a purely bad guys with this kind of attitude from the writers. Normally I'd expect them to fight for martians, but martians are utterly ignored, so they can't be a cause, that way the reason will be personal - revenge and hunger for war, which is characteristic of the bad guys. Unless aldnoah overlords come. I actually see that happening, otherwise there's literally no reason for a season 3, or a potential movie (as bad as the show has been, I'd rather another season to the clusterfck that would be a A.Z. movie....god fcking lord would that be horrific). They could also bring up something about Klankine, and the higher ups fckig over the Vers society even more (as we kinda expect to happen). However, yes, Slaine's group would likely be an antagonistic third party, but I see it more being more of anti-hero/villain faction, but now with more tangible justifications: Klankine is actually fcking everything up, and Asshime is useless (as we all know). Also, since this studio loves it's romance, they could actually do the only pairing of even minuscule potential, and interest: Slaine x Lemrina. It's like right fcking there, but they decided to do every other thing....and still fck those up. Also, Slaine coming back means we'd get to see a really nice looking new mech. |
RavenlySadist said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). There will be no point in saving him though, since Slaine has nothing else to accomplish really...and how do they know where he is? Dude, don't underestimate this writing team's ability to pull sh*t outta their collective ass. |
| Well Shit...... 6/10 I refuse to see the last episode, I got my information from comments and well yeah, that is that. As someone said, let the monstrosity stop. So, yeah... I was pretty disappointed at how the studio handled this series. It had so much potential... I am glad it ended, started off with a bang, but ended with a sizzle. *This anime will forever be a low replay in my book, therefore it will never be watched again* (Pandora Box lol) On a side note, Justice was served!!! and romance aspect sucked |
skudoops said: deadoptimist said: The most terrible part about the ending though is the part that it makes the whole series, the whole rollercoaster of suffering a result of unfortunate misunderstanding. Why couldn't they trade before? They held aldnoah drives as a strategic asset and didn't want to give it to Earth? But then only a change of views was necessary - the princess could push for it when she became a ruler, which was only years away at the beginning. All the shit happened because she was too impatient to go to Earth. If the plan is so good, she could offer it to Slaine instead of simply shouting "peace for all" or broadcast to Saazbaum from the shelter - maybe he would've liked it. Though the stuff with only her being able to activate alnoah is unsolved. And Vers did let go of its only resource. Will the prince of one aldnoah generator be enough to feed a planet? Normally it isn't enough for a country, and here the transportation cost would be insane. More importantly, if aldnoah is a relic of an alien race and some cores are even unique (or are they, since Dioscuria copies everyone?), it's logical to assume that they are limited in amount. Then selling them is dangerous. If they are unlimited and they already have dr. Toryards' research, why don't simple martians get the power and why can't they terraform (they even have kats, that manipulate the exact things necessary for that - temperature, gravity, shielding) or build rad habitable domes (water is mineable in the solar system)? Nothing is said about martians. That's so moronic... [bold]Yep, not to mention we still have no understanding of Aldnoah or why all the drives are blood tied.[/bold] They tried to emulate a few of the popular mecha but it didn't seem like they understood why those were good and this wasn't. For instance the spark of this conflict seems a bit ridiculous considering that earthlings led the first war. Why would this even happen? Also why wouldn't earth be supplying their own expedition? In Gundam firstly, trade was happening between the colonies and earth, secondly the conflict was led by the first official spacenoids i.e people born on space colonies and thirdly it was due to political matters and not out of desperation. We could be seeing some alien/higher humanoid Aldnoah race plot for season 3. |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: However, yes, Slaine's group would likely be an antagonistic third party, but I see it more being more of anti-hero/villain faction, but now with more tangible justifications: Klankine is actually fcking everything up, and Asshime is useless (as we all know). Also, since this studio loves it's romance, they could actually do the only pairing of even minuscule potential, and interest: Slaine x Lemrina. It's like right fcking there, but they decided to do every other thing....and still fck those up. Also, Slaine coming back means we'd get to see a really nice looking new mech. And a really nice looking new Slaine. He is hot when he is angry. But nope, this scenario is realistic, even normal for a story about coups and intrigues, but this team won't manage. I don't think they've read anything besides the crappiest of manga ( though all the episodes have the names of books, which is ironic, considering the level of the script). The writers have shown clearly that there can be no love interest besides Asseylum (seriously, souldn't Slaine have at least lamented that he is unable to return Lemrina's love? that would be a normal sentiment). Frankly, this is stupid, since people can overgrow their infatuation and love can turn into hate. The latter could've been used, but it won't, I am sure. The writers have demonstrated even more clearly that there won't be any mind paid to the martians and their plea. So I can't see them giving this as justification for Slaine's pary actions. Asseylum and Kloncine are shown as umproblematic ideal characters. Asseylum's silly plan is solving anyone's problems. And do way they will develop Kloncine. If they would be ready for it, both things could and should have been hinted on at least. So the only way it could develop is with knights being bad and war hungry, Slaine being vindictive (or, at best, dragged into it unwillingly) and Lemrina finding her thirst for blood. The writing team simply doesn't have it to make it any more complex. The only way to slavage it would be to introduce aliens. But they obviously scarpped the plot about the workings of aldnoah and dr. Toyard, which would be hard to compensate if now they'll want to specify. They make throw in something else, but that is unpredictable. |
| I feel like Slaine don't cried, because he was grateful for princess for that request, but more like 'Damn it, I wanted die. If I know this would end like that I would pick other way" xD |
deadoptimist said: The most terrible part about the ending though is the part that it makes the whole series, the whole rollercoaster of suffering a result of unfortunate misunderstanding. Why couldn't they trade before? They held aldnoah drives as a strategic asset and didn't want to give it to Earth? But then only a change of views was necessary - the princess could push for it when she became a ruler, which was only years away at the beginning. All the shit happened because she was too impatient to go to Earth. If the plan is so good, she could offer it to Slaine instead of simply shouting "peace for all" or broadcast to Saazbaum from the shelter - maybe he would've liked it. Though the stuff with only her being able to activate alnoah is unsolved. And Vers did let go of its only resource. Will the prince of one aldnoah generator be enough to feed a planet? Normally it isn't enough for a country, and here the transportation cost would be insane. More importantly, if aldnoah is a relic of an alien race and some cores are even unique (or are they, since Dioscuria copies everyone?), it's logical to assume that they are limited in amount. Then selling them is dangerous. If they are unlimited and they already have dr. Toryards' research, why don't simple martians get the power and why can't they terraform (they even have kats, that manipulate the exact things necessary for that - temperature, gravity, shielding) or build rad habitable domes (water is mineable in the solar system)? Nothing is said about martians. That's so moronic... Makaze_no_Moujuu said: It's implied; not stated. You know how A.Z. works: it's not confirmed they're dead, so they're alive. Also, Slaine is still alive, and if Harklight and Lemrina are alive then we know that Slaine is gonna be saved in S3 (which was apparently just announced, or is going to be announced). Sure, that's what I mean. They are "dead" for now. Though they are not so important as the "dead" from the end of the season 1, so maybe only Harklight gets revived for the sake of shipping, or maybe not. Yeah, I'd like to see Slaine saved and at the head of an uprising with Lemrina, Harklight and the rest of the knights. The problem is they'd be a purely bad guys with this kind of attitude from the writers. Normally I'd expect them to fight for martians, but martians are utterly ignored, so they can't be a cause, that way the reason will be personal - revenge and hunger for war, which is characteristic of the bad guys. Unless aldnoah overlords come. Slaine would be saved just to end up a masked Gundam like villain with super long hair with his pendant somehow being the key to the undoing of anything Aldnoah powered. Just so he actually dies int he end for real while Asseylum actually hooks up with Inaho for real. Horribly cliched but the writers have proven to have no real talent by basically ripping off Code Geass ending. Slaine is a mix of both Lelouch and Suzaku. Blamed for everything but not allowed to die. blackbishop said: Raziel1991 said: I do agree that he was depicted like a villain in cour 2, but I really think we could classify him as anti-villain. Saying he is just a villain makes everyone think only in the negative meaning associated with that word, however, although he used questionable methods to reach his position, Slaine is not evil or a bad person, his gentle personality is not a facade and if something from him it is, would be his "conqueror" personality.Why are still people trying to deny that Slaine was a villain? I know Im repeating myself but he himself admitted he was a terrible person at the end of this episode. I think the creators of this show should have developed more of Inaho and Slaine, so at least they could brag about their main characters being great even if the rest of them weren't. So much wasted potential :(. Finally, somebody that gets the anti-villain definition. I got sick of correcting people on here. Still, the writers were putting Slaine into straight up villain territory in episodes 22-23 with his selfish declarations so people wouldn't have homes to return to. He went back to anti-villain in this episode when eh told his Knights to surrender. Definitely feels like the writers just didn't know what direction to go with him. I wish he had gone full villain mode and at least destroyed the Deaucalion and everyone on it. At least then being blamed for starting the war would have been deserved. Piso's justice served? This show should have been named the Slaine Pain Train as someone once said back in season one. Asseylum probably doesn't even visit him in prison. |
skudoops said: For instance the spark of this conflict seems a bit ridiculous considering that earthlings led the first war. Why would this even happen? Also why wouldn't earth be supplying their own expedition? In Gundam firstly, trade was happening between the colonies and earth, secondly the conflict was led by the first official spacenoids i.e people born on space colonies and thirdly it was due to political matters and not out of desperation. Yeah, the short time that Vers existed makes many things in this show improbable. Though I am fine with the explanation, that the problem with the supplies was because of the greed and squabble for power. Corrupt officials can mess up everything. Especially if it was an international effort. Space born people though, the ones with a different psychology and no memory of the Earth would be better. And I still don't understand why can't they settle normally on Mars with so much energy and special powers awailable. Saazbaum's words about agriculture in the open seem bizarre. Frankly, the things I wanted the most was people's lifestyle on Mars and more of the alien stuff. I'd also like to see it's effect on people, since it seems to merge with them on genetic level. MetaKite said: This show should have been named the Slaine Pain Train as someone once said back in season one. Asseylum probably doesn't even visit him in prison. For all my dislike of Inaho, visiting Slaine in the prison was not so bad on his part. I doubt Slaine likes it, but on the other hand nobody else seems to bother. Then, maybe the princess doesn't know... |
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