| The latest Naruto chapter had humor in it although brief. Naruto has for the most part been serious. Besides young Naruto's antics, Konohamaru's antics, Sakura's inner monologues, Tobi's antics Naruto has been serious. The majority of the villains always have some sad back story and inner hatred. |
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RedRoseFring said: What made me think he was the worst main canon Bleach villain is how DrGeroCreation said: The Fake Karakura Town arc imo made Aizen the worst main villain in the anime and manga. Yhwach to me is the best villain because he actually gets things done and Ginjo is the second best because of how he attacked Ichigo emotionally. Wasn't enough to ruin him for me. He's still my favourite villain of the series. I didn't like the Fullbring arc very much, but still better than most of the fillers. I fully watched the Bount Arc, and of course it isn't as bad as people make it out to be. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Bach isnt that different....[spoiler]what is the point of explaining his plan to Ichigo?RedRoseFring said: What made me think he was the worst main canon Bleach villain is how Wasn't enough to ruin him for me. He's still my favourite villain of the series. I didn't like the Fullbring arc very much, but still better than most of the fillers. I fully watched the Bount Arc, and of course it isn't as bad as people make it out to be. And he hasnt done much other than planning and waiting for his quincy to end their fights. |
ssjokg said: You can't be serious. Bach has DrGeroCreation said: Bach isnt that different....[spoiler]what is the point of explaining his plan to Ichigo?What made me think he was the worst main canon Bleach villain is how And he hasnt done much other than planning and waiting for his quincy to end their fights. |
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| And then everyone got stronger and started fighting back against opponents they could easily be killed by but didnt for no real reason . Bach could have achieved his plan without letting Ichigo even know what is going on.He is a villain and vilains do that isnt an excuse. He is overconfident and lets his enemies get a chance to fight back and win. Kubo DID destroy Aizen's character but Bach isnt really better. Especially when his plan didnt work because he is smarter but because SS was portrayed as total idiots even with geniuses like Urahara. |
ssjokg said: The only reason that happened is because they And then everyone got stronger and started fighting back against opponents they could easily be killed by but didnt for no real reason . Bach could have achieved his plan without letting Ichigo even know what is going on.He is a villain and vilains do that isnt an excuse. He is overconfident and lets his enemies get a chance to fight back and win. Kubo DID destroy Aizen's character but Bach isnt really better. Especially when his plan didnt work because he is smarter but because SS was portrayed as total idiots even with geniuses like Urahara. Bach wanted to make Ichigo feel guilty because he technically would be the one responsible for the death of the . |
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| No I am talking about before going there. It still doesnt change that now Ichigo knows and will try to stop him.Bach lowered, even a bit,his chances for no good reason.If that is another plan in order to shift Ichigo's attention elsewhere, even if it sounds stupid, ok it was a good move, but it doesn't look like it. |
DrGeroCreation said: Hopefully now he will wipe out the zero squad. |
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ssjokg said: @ssjokg No I am talking about before going there. It still doesnt change that now Ichigo knows and will try to stop him.Bach lowered, even a bit,his chances for no good reason.If that is another plan in order to shift Ichigo's attention elsewhere, even if it sounds stupid, ok it was a good move, but it doesn't look like it. @Ryukatsuka |
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DrGeroCreation said: [spoiler] Come on you know pretty well that Ishida is with Bach for for reasons that will make him change sides sooner or later.We have seen that several times in shounen and even in Bleach. Not to mention that the more random is the change the more the possibilities to betray Bach(or any villain)increase. If Bach is as good as you say it is he will have seen through it.But then it doesnt make sense why he let him go.ssjokg said: @ssjokg No I am talking about before going there. It still doesnt change that now Ichigo knows and will try to stop him.Bach lowered, even a bit,his chances for no good reason.If that is another plan in order to shift Ichigo's attention elsewhere, even if it sounds stupid, ok it was a good move, but it doesn't look like it. @Ryukatsuka |
ssjokg said: [spoiler] Come on you know pretty well that Ishida is with Bach for for reasons that will make him change sides sooner or later.We have seen that several times in shounen and even in Bleach. Not to mention that the more random is the change the more the possibilities to betray Bach(or any villain)increase. If Bach is as good as you say it is he will have seen through it.But then it doesnt make sense why he let him go. |
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| No I mean Bach[spoiler]If he knows or suspects that Ishida will betray him why is he letting him go on his own? Well a possible theory is that he wants them to fight and exhaust each other out till the "miraculous" heel-face turn.Well whatever it is I hope it isnt the same as with Aizen "Keikaku dori,lol my keikaku was for you to get stronger through battles" bullshit. |
ssjokg said: No I mean Bach[spoiler]If he knows or suspects that Ishida will betray him why is he letting him go on his own? Well a possible theory is that he wants them to fight and exhaust each other out till the "miraculous" heel-face turn.Well whatever it is I hope it isnt the same as with Aizen "Keikaku dori,lol my keikaku was for you to get stronger through battles" bullshit. |
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Lyren said: damnZetrin said: One Piece. That is all. I'll wreck the fool that derails this shit this I forgot about that post. should probably go edit it because it seems out of context now |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dvTWozOFo pretty much one piece in 15 minutes. Greatest video i have ever watched. |
Celestrial2 said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dvTWozOFo pretty much one piece in 15 minutes. Greatest video i have ever watched. Still the best story ever I see. I think there was another one that was the whole of One Piece in 30 minutes. Not sure, but it may have been this. |
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| hmm... you know, there were a few weeks the Pokemon actually replaced Naruto on TV, and there is one photo taken at a Convention where both NAruto and Ash are in suits pointing at some screen... with how the newest season of Pokemon is going (its Pokemon XY btw), is it possible that they are trying to transition the Pokemon anime to have more of a Shonen feel? |
AzuStar said: hmm... you know, there were a few weeks the Pokemon actually replaced Naruto on TV, and there is one photo taken at a Convention where both NAruto and Ash are in suits pointing at some screen... with how the newest season of Pokemon is going (its Pokemon XY btw), is it possible that they are trying to transition the Pokemon anime to have more of a Shonen feel? I think because they are next to each other in timeslots on the same TV station. When there is no Naruto episode, it is because Pokemon has two episodes special, and Pokemon takes over Naruto slot for that week. And the opposite happens, at those Naruto two episodes special. |
tsudecimoJun 27, 2014 1:36 AM
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tsudecimo said: AzuStar said: hmm... you know, there were a few weeks the Pokemon actually replaced Naruto on TV, and there is one photo taken at a Convention where both NAruto and Ash are in suits pointing at some screen... with how the newest season of Pokemon is going (its Pokemon XY btw), is it possible that they are trying to transition the Pokemon anime to have more of a Shonen feel? I think because they are next to each other in timeslots on the same TV station. When there is no Naruto episode, it is because Pokemon has two episodes special, and Pokemon takes over Naruto slot for that week. And the opposite happens, at those Naruto two episodes special. oh.. some1 told me that kodomo and Shonen air at different times in Japan... but does the mean Naruto is a Kodomo/Pokemon is a shonen? O.o |
| I'm not really sure. But I reckon that Shounen anime, usually air early and in the morning because they are prime time. Anime actually don't have demographics like manga. Just time slots, unless I'm mistaken (prime time anime: Saze-san, Detective Conan, One Piece, etc) (Late night anime: Most harems, ecchi, stuff like No Game No Life, etc) |
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Ryukatsuka said: I think there was another one that was the whole of One Piece in 30 minutes. Not sure, but it may have been this. I have some serious issues with this video. It seems like pandering for those who say that Skypiea is plot irrelevant and Thriller Bark only matters because of Zoro's sacrifice... Come on, these two are major arcs. It's a shame how many events that are relevant or at least symbolic in there are just left out. On the other hand it is a poor decision to use the movie remakes because that makes the artstyle look inconsistant and unaccordingly to the growth of the series. The HD scenes for the Arlong arc or the stylized/simplified drawing from Drum Island surely look out of place. |
| something I'm genuinely curious about in one piece not trying to cause a shitstorm but I'm curious as to whether it's explained later on |
jal90 said: I have some serious issues with this video. It seems like pandering for those who say that Skypiea is plot irrelevant and Thriller Bark only matters because of Zoro's sacrifice. Yeah, my biggest problems with the video. Especially from what I've skimmed it seems the Skypiea saga was skipped -entirely-, even the Jaya arc which was extremely important, introduces loads of important characters and factions + shows another layer of Luffy's character with the whole Bellamy conflict. |
JD2411 said: I'm pretty sure that's mostly why they were so beat up and lost almost all of their ships. They went through the calm belt, there's no other way.something I'm genuinely curious about in one piece not trying to cause a shitstorm but I'm curious as to whether it's explained later on Though actually more experienced pirates like Shanks might know a way. They do sometimes go to one of the 4 seas. |
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| shit son I just read the latest FT chapter and I can't wait to see it animated it's a shame the anime's art isn't on par with the manga because imo mashima's art is better than kishimoto's, kubo's and oda's. |
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| I think Kubo has the nicest character designs but his backgrounds aren't as good as kishi's, oda's or mashima's |
| Backgrounds? Backgrounds! Backgrounds are for the weak!  F*ing BEAUTIFUL "cries" |
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JD2411 said: Examples of "good backgrounds" from each series?I think Kubo has the nicest character designs but his backgrounds aren't as good as kishi's, oda's or mashima's |
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judals said: fairy tail isn't in it but this is a pretty famous comparison of the threeJD2411 said: Examples of "good backgrounds" from each series?I think Kubo has the nicest character designs but his backgrounds aren't as good as kishi's, oda's or mashima's |
| One piece is detailed. Naruto is more vibrant, but I can swear Mount Kagemore is inconsistent compared to the Sasuke shot. But are you sure you're not purposefully picking an empty bleach shot? Or maybe hueco mundo is supposed to have this derelict, empty, vast atmosphere to it? |
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judals said: One piece is detailed. Naruto is more vibrant, but I can swear Mount Kagemore is inconsistent compared to the Sasuke shot. But are you sure you're not purposefully picking an empty bleach shot? Or maybe hueco mundo is supposed to have this derelict, empty, vast atmosphere to it? Only SS'HQ was detailed in Bleach and that was during the beginning. Now you barely see any backgrounds. |
AkatsukiWolf said: What about Hunter X Hunter? That is actually more detailed than all. I saw an edit of this zooming in, you can see three people in there. Bottom right. Ssjokg, meh, i dont care much for buildings anyway, anime takes care of that. In manga it is good as long as it gets the message across. |
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| Who needs backgrounds anyway? People keep saying it's amazing blah blah blah but only look at it for a couple of seconds and never again, so Kubo has got it right, why bother when almost no one takes the time to appreciate it? Everyone talks about the characters not the background so Kubo just shows the place everything takes place at and then focuses on the characters- http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130718152345/bleach/en/images/archive/1/1e/20130718152432!Vandenreich_Ice_Base.jpg Mod Edit: Please put pictures and links that break forum format in a spoiler. |
ZelotJun 27, 2014 10:47 AM
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judals said: I cant believe I hear that from a Berserk fan.AkatsukiWolf said: What about Hunter X Hunter? That is actually more detailed than all. I saw an edit of this zooming in, you can see three people in there. Bottom right. Ssjokg, meh, i dont care much for buildings anyway, anime takes care of that. In manga it is good as long as it gets the message across. |
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JD2411 said: how about this from Bleach?judals said: fairy tail isn't in it but this is a pretty famous comparison of the threeExamples of "good backgrounds" from each series? They're still not as detailed as Kishi's or Oda's, but still. Bleach has always been about fights, which means it's about the characters and their fights with each other, and at that, Kubo does a great job (characters are shallow for the most part, as in a lot of other series, but consider it your mindless fun with good-looking and badass characters/moments) . Tbh he can draw a lot more impactful character reactions than the other 2. Examples: |
Candor123Jun 27, 2014 10:32 AM
ssjokg said: judals said: I cant believe I hear that from a Berserk fan.That is actually more detailed than all. I saw an edit of this zooming in, you can see three people in there. Bottom right. Ssjokg, meh, i dont care much for buildings anyway, anime takes care of that. In manga it is good as long as it gets the message across. Berserk is different. Berserk's art CREATES the atmosphere imo, it had a certain quality that is lost in adaptation, cant say the same for the big three or HxH or anything else. |
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ssjokg said: Believe it or not, those white and black behind the characters instead of the buildings can do a hella big impact sometimes.judals said: I cant believe I hear that from a Berserk fan.That is actually more detailed than all. I saw an edit of this zooming in, you can see three people in there. Bottom right. Ssjokg, meh, i dont care much for buildings anyway, anime takes care of that. In manga it is good as long as it gets the message across. |
Candor said: JD2411 said: how about this from Bleach?fairy tail isn't in it but this is a pretty famous comparison of the three They're still not as detailed as Kishi's or Oda's, but still. Bleach has always been about fights, which means it's about the characters and their fights with each other, and at that, Kubo does a great job (characters are shallow for the most part, as in a lot of series, but consider it your mindless fun with good-looking and badass moments) . Tbh he can draw a lot more impactful character reactions than the other 2. Examples: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbhxs9U0SB1reyv77o1_500.png Haven't watched the corresponding episode but this blows others out the water. Or this, http://i.imgur.com/hADMW.jpg |
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Candor said: JD2411 said: how about this from Bleach?fairy tail isn't in it but this is a pretty famous comparison of the three They're still not as detailed as Kishi's or Oda's, but still. Bleach has always been about fights, which means it's about the characters and their fights with each other, and at that, Kubo does a great job (characters are shallow for the most part, as in a lot of other series, but consider it your mindless fun with good-looking and badass characters/moments) . Tbh he can draw a lot more impactful character reactions than the other 2. Examples: Actually, Kishi's has the best expression judging from those three. |
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ichii_1 said: Who needs backgrounds anyway? People keep saying it's amazing blah blah blah but only look at it for a couple of seconds and never again, so Kubo has got it right, why bother when almost no one takes the time to appreciate it? Everyone talks about the characters not the background so Kubo just shows the place everything takes place at and then focuses on the characters Yeah. Never got why the lack of detailed backgrounds in Bleach, is a good enough basis, to bash the art. Kubo has the best raw drawing talent in the current Jump line up IMO. |
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RedRoseFring said: To each their own I guess, which is why such discussions are kinda pointless, but I do agree the 2nd is pretty good, and it's like the only one I found from my small search for Naruto. Candor said: how about this from Bleach? They're still not as detailed as Kishi's or Oda's, but still. Bleach has always been about fights, which means it's about the characters and their fights with each other, and at that, Kubo does a great job (characters are shallow for the most part, as in a lot of other series, but consider it your mindless fun with good-looking and badass characters/moments) . Tbh he can draw a lot more impactful character reactions than the other 2. Examples: Actually, Kishi's has the best expression judging from those three. The context of the panels of course however is still important for the impact to happen, so I didn't really think those pictures would be that impactful on their own to anyone, but the difference in the art detail shows, or the potential impact, especially in the Yamamoto picture. It's still a panel from each series, which doesn't really say much but that's basically how good each can get from my experience in all 3 series. (One Piece has the lowest impactful art, Naruto has some really impactful panels, albeit those are few, Bleach has really impactful panels and there's a decent amount of them, but compared to others, Bleach doesn't have that many backgrounds, which really isn't a bad thing) |
Candor123Jun 27, 2014 10:46 AM
Candor said: JD2411 said: how about this from Bleach?fairy tail isn't in it but this is a pretty famous comparison of the three They're still not as detailed as Kishi's or Oda's, but still. Bleach has always been about fights, which means it's about the characters and their fights with each other, and at that, Kubo does a great job (characters are shallow for the most part, as in a lot of other series, but consider it your mindless fun with good-looking and badass characters/moments) . Tbh he can draw a lot more impactful character reactions than the other 2. Examples: I think a better example for Kubo's great facial expressions would be this: And in all honesty, Isayama beats all of them: I mean, seriously. |
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