Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Aug 21, 2016 9:34 PM
#351
Tetimaru said: 19Pyro90 said: Tetimaru said: Does anyone have a higher resolution copy? Is this better for you? Uhm, I apologise if my understanding of resolution is incorrect, but the previous one appears to be a 1280 x 720 while this one is a 1024 x 570. seems the image sight i used to upload this resized the picture. that should be 1366x768 |
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Aug 21, 2016 9:38 PM
#352
Jeez this thread is cancerous. If you enjoy the show, enjoy it. If you don't well it's your own opinion. As for me i loved this episode. |
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Aug 21, 2016 9:48 PM
#353
Goofs said: honestly, I liked Emilia in the earlier episodes more, the past 10 or so eps she's just been kind of distant. if I was Subaru I'd just think of her as a boss more than a love interest If he's going to choose a boss he might as well just say fuck it and go with the Crush girl instead. She and her crew seem to be the only ones who truly have their shit together. Emilia wants to act like a boss but frankly she's every bit as dumb and naive as Subaru is/was except she doesn't have the advantage of being able to return to life with lessons learned. Basically, she's simply not fit to be a ruler. |
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Aug 21, 2016 9:51 PM
#355
A bit disappointed, its different in the novels during Subaru and Rem at the last moment. Rem actually able to talk Subaru into taking second wife, Subaru didnt object and said let Emilia decide whether he can have a second wife or not when that times really come. Rem is all fired up about it also. |
Aug 21, 2016 10:14 PM
#356
At least Subaru has improved for a little bit lol. He used his head more, especially impressed with the tree, cuz I never thought that would deal the finishing blow lol. Okay, now that the Purple Haired Knight is here. -_- He is here to take some more glory against Subaru hahaha. |
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Aug 21, 2016 10:27 PM
#357
It became shit for me because of couple episodes where subaru was a complete useless asshole. But now i see that Re:Zero is standing up. I'm glad to be honest. Still can't get over subaru being arrogant though. |
Aug 21, 2016 10:37 PM
#358
It's pretty interesting to read this far into a Re Zero episode discussion. Seems it has a few people arguing, a few trolls, some hardcore shippers, and mostly people simply discussing the series. I don't see how anyone could say that these Re Zero episode discussion threads are cancerous or anything like that. It's pretty similar to other shows's discussion threads, just longer. As for the episode, it was great to see Subaru being smart and helping defeat the whale despite being weak. I also loved his talk with Crusch and it's great that this time she actually wants to help him. I feel very happy for Subaru since everything's going so well this loop. Also, I'm glad that Wilhelm's alive, he's a great character. Subaru and Rem's scene was very nice as it was, it didn't need a kiss. I'm excited for Julius to help out next episode. Hopefully Subaru doesn't let his anger get the best of him. |
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Aug 21, 2016 10:39 PM
#359
AnimeSayWhat said: It became shit for me because of couple episodes where subaru was a complete useless asshole. But now i see that Re:Zero is standing up. I'm glad to be honest. Still can't get over subaru being arrogant though. Character goes through character development, people think show is shit, instead of realizing people becoming something because of the environment they are in. |
Aug 21, 2016 10:41 PM
#360
LayedBack said: You know, its crazy how many people around here get so caught up in the romance and wish fulfillment shit, basically all they seem to care about is shipping two characters and watching them kiss and living happily ever after... I mean damn, there's more interesting things going on here. Welcome to the anime fanbase. It's pretty disappointing isn't it? |
Aug 21, 2016 10:45 PM
#361
Teqnique said: AnimeSayWhat said: It became shit for me because of couple episodes where subaru was a complete useless asshole. But now i see that Re:Zero is standing up. I'm glad to be honest. Still can't get over subaru being arrogant though. Character goes through character development, people think show is shit, instead of realizing people becoming something because of the environment they are in. Well i do understand what you mean. But still.. It's anime it should appeal us viewers not make us frustrated. In my opinion re:zero tried to be a little bit to realistic in couple of episodes that's why it got so much hate. Subaru was behaving to realistically to situations happening around him not allot of anime's do that. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:05 PM
#363
This episode is a rollercoaster of emotions. Wilhelm saying I love you is the most heartbreaking moment I've ever seen, now that Theresia no longer there to listen to it. Rem is definitely the Goddess of Waifu. Goddammit it so fucking sweet I get diabetes. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:12 PM
#364
LayedBack said: Z-Dante said: Subaru finally "got his shit together" but yet getting jealous at the sight of Julius?? WTF is wrong with you, man? He came to help you out of his sheer goodwill yet you do not recognize how much of a bro Julius is? You deserve to die 10 more times for this great sin, Subaru dono.... Neglecting the best bro of the series, it's not fair Subaru kun >_< And white fox, please don't show me false hopes of Rem x Barusu only to crush it later! My weak heart can't take it ;_; Lol yeah, dude man only beat Subaru half to death in order to "help him". I do sorta get that, its a harsh lesson for a harsh world. But frankly, not much separated Subaru's level of naivity and powerlessness from Emilia's or some others there, whether they realize or not Emilia is over here getting fucking whacked by the order just a few days later like a dumb bitch. The real dick move was picking him apart, humiliating him and revealing his foolishness in such a public place. I mean yeah, on one hand Subaru was tripping hard and being immature as fuck, but I have to say if this knight guy is supposed to have his shit together and is actually being benevolent, he could have done the whole thing in a much more discreet way. Dick move, bro. Actually, Julius beat him half to death because Subaru himself refused to yield and admit to his own wrongdoings. Julius repeatedly told him to stand down, but Subaru was dead set in trying to beat him by hook or by crook. Picking him apart and humiliating him was only a byproduct of Julius championing the rest of the Knights at "taking offence" at Subaru's belittlement of them and their efforts at becoming knights by arrogantly claiming that he himself as a butler was on the same level as a knight. Felix and Reinhart both told him it wasn't necessary, but Julius did it anyway so as to prevent Subaru from getting his throat slit in some dark castle hallway by any of the other knights he offended at the election ceremony. Same with the fact that he used wooden swords in his challenge (by all rights he could have used real swords and actually cut Subaru down if he wanted to). Julius gave him three instances to back off and apologize for his slight (at the ceremony, when he challenged him afterwards, and during the duel), it was Subaru's own stubbornness that got him to where he ended up in the end there. |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:14 PM
#365
great episode, though one particular scene kinda bugged me to no end. How in the world does subaru manage to stabilize himself and even pose in the moving whale horn? not to mention gripping a fast moving Ice and then landing himself right on that horn, unless its Rem's out of this world aim. I mean all cool and everything but that one sequences just dont register in my head, does the whale actually has the blessing of the wind as well surrounding its body, hence subaru does not get affected with the wind when he is on its body parts? other than that, really really love the way they animate wilhelm flashbacks and timing it with the moment he deliver the final blow to the whale, the epilogue of the battle is really good as well. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:26 PM
#366
The female cast in this show is great, at this point I don't care who best girl is (btw I'm glad to see that there's less and less shipping war in rezero threads, that's a big achievement). I like Crusch even more now, as a character and as a leader, so far she definitely is the best choice for the throne. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:27 PM
#367
Another good episode. This show consistently delivers. Best anime of 2016. Crusch should be the Queen, easy call. There is no way that Emelia could have done what she did in that battle. The other candidates are also weak. Felt is a candidate for Queen LOL. I think Subaru should end up with Rem. Maybe someone else has said that, if so I apologize. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:31 PM
#368
Ivanovskaya said: The female cast in this show is great, at this point I don't care who best girl is (btw I'm glad to see that there's less and less shipping war in rezero threads, that's a big achievement). I like Crusch even more now, as a character and as a leader, so far she definitely is the best choice for the throne. need 21 episodeS to reach this achievements. what a Journey kinda late for most user to realize that |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:33 PM
#369
Rehls said: @Verifax http://myanimelist.net/character/142756/Ketty This must've been what Ricardo meant by 'Never underestimate the merchant information network'. That's really a major spoiler lmao. I mean in the link. |
Aug 21, 2016 11:37 PM
#370
L-Ryoshi said: LayedBack said: Z-Dante said: Subaru finally "got his shit together" but yet getting jealous at the sight of Julius?? WTF is wrong with you, man? He came to help you out of his sheer goodwill yet you do not recognize how much of a bro Julius is? You deserve to die 10 more times for this great sin, Subaru dono.... Neglecting the best bro of the series, it's not fair Subaru kun >_< And white fox, please don't show me false hopes of Rem x Barusu only to crush it later! My weak heart can't take it ;_; Lol yeah, dude man only beat Subaru half to death in order to "help him". I do sorta get that, its a harsh lesson for a harsh world. But frankly, not much separated Subaru's level of naivity and powerlessness from Emilia's or some others there, whether they realize or not Emilia is over here getting fucking whacked by the order just a few days later like a dumb bitch. The real dick move was picking him apart, humiliating him and revealing his foolishness in such a public place. I mean yeah, on one hand Subaru was tripping hard and being immature as fuck, but I have to say if this knight guy is supposed to have his shit together and is actually being benevolent, he could have done the whole thing in a much more discreet way. Dick move, bro. Actually, Julius beat him half to death because Subaru himself refused to yield and admit to his own wrongdoings. Julius repeatedly told him to stand down, but Subaru was dead set in trying to beat him by hook or by crook. Picking him apart and humiliating him was only a byproduct of Julius championing the rest of the Knights at "taking offence" at Subaru's belittlement of them and their efforts at becoming knights by arrogantly claiming that he himself as a butler was on the same level as a knight. Felix and Reinhart both told him it wasn't necessary, but Julius did it anyway so as to prevent Subaru from getting his throat slit in some dark castle hallway by any of the other knights he offended at the election ceremony. Same with the fact that he used wooden swords in his challenge (by all rights he could have used real swords and actually cut Subaru down if he wanted to). Julius gave him three instances to back off and apologize for his slight (at the ceremony, when he challenged him afterwards, and during the duel), it was Subaru's own stubbornness that got him to where he ended up in the end there. I think both subaru and julius would come to term between themselves, might be another growth for subaru emotionally and mentally |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:39 PM
#371
well, everyone is badass isn't it? wilhelm,crusch, subaru finally got his stuff right, EVEN REM , just, now,who is going to save subaru in place of rem? |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:41 PM
#372
SATELLA IS THE BEST GRILL!!! |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:42 PM
#373
benriya said: well, everyone is badass isn't it? wilhelm,crusch, subaru finally got his stuff right, EVEN REM , just, now,who is going to save subaru in place of rem? Our Batman Julius? (surprisingly the same VA as Hachiman from Oregairu) |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:43 PM
#374
Prog_upworks13 said: Rehls said: @Verifax http://myanimelist.net/character/142756/Ketty This must've been what Ricardo meant by 'Never underestimate the merchant information network'. That's really a major spoiler lmao. I mean in the link. Wut? that's Explain everything |
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Aug 21, 2016 11:57 PM
#375
After the battle, Subaru rushed over to the injured Rem, worrying about her condition, as she had protected him from the shockwave formed from the force of the tree smashing down onto the Hakugei. She soon regained consciousness, however she was in terrible condition, and after seeing this, he accepted her request to tell her that she loved him. He also agreed to let her be with him in the future, telling her that he wouldn't give her to anyone, causing her to reveal that she wasn't dying at all, with Subaru soon realizing that she had tricked him into saying all of the things she requested. They were then interrupted by an amused Ferris, who he realized had been listening to their entire conversation right from the beginning. iam waiting for it. Well,they got better stuff. |
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Aug 22, 2016 12:24 AM
#376
L-Ryoshi said: Actually, Julius beat him half to death because Subaru himself refused to yield and admit to his own wrongdoings. Julius repeatedly told him to stand down, but Subaru was dead set in trying to beat him by hook or by crook. Picking him apart and humiliating him was only a byproduct of Julius championing the rest of the Knights at "taking offence" at Subaru's belittlement of them and their efforts at becoming knights by arrogantly claiming that he himself as a butler was on the same level as a knight. Felix and Reinhart both told him it wasn't necessary, but Julius did it anyway so as to prevent Subaru from getting his throat slit in some dark castle hallway by any of the other knights he offended at the election ceremony. Same with the fact that he used wooden swords in his challenge (by all rights he could have used real swords and actually cut Subaru down if he wanted to). Julius gave him three instances to back off and apologize for his slight (at the ceremony, when he challenged him afterwards, and during the duel), it was Subaru's own stubbornness that got him to where he ended up in the end there. Maybe I need to watch it again, you make some decent points. However you make it sound like Julius couldn't have handled this in a different way, and he absolutely could have. There was definitely a bit of leading go on there, not to mention a whole lot of butting in to what wasn't really his business to begin with. This was for Emilia to deal with. And as I said before Subaru was hardly the only one there with questionable competence. I mean we have Emilia who doesn't really know anything about anything herself, we have a little girl from the slums who thinks its all ridiculous (and frankly, it is) and actually wants to tear the country apart but apparently is fit to be a potential ruler, and what Julius can't handle is some dude he doesn't even fucking know at this point wanting to be Emilia's champion? I'm sorry but to me that's a little douchey coming from someone trying to act like he has the moral high-ground here. And then of course we have a lot of knights and judges or whatever being general douchebags and even racists and such... |
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Aug 22, 2016 12:41 AM
#377
LayedBack said: L-Ryoshi said: Actually, Julius beat him half to death because Subaru himself refused to yield and admit to his own wrongdoings. Julius repeatedly told him to stand down, but Subaru was dead set in trying to beat him by hook or by crook. Picking him apart and humiliating him was only a byproduct of Julius championing the rest of the Knights at "taking offence" at Subaru's belittlement of them and their efforts at becoming knights by arrogantly claiming that he himself as a butler was on the same level as a knight. Felix and Reinhart both told him it wasn't necessary, but Julius did it anyway so as to prevent Subaru from getting his throat slit in some dark castle hallway by any of the other knights he offended at the election ceremony. Same with the fact that he used wooden swords in his challenge (by all rights he could have used real swords and actually cut Subaru down if he wanted to). Julius gave him three instances to back off and apologize for his slight (at the ceremony, when he challenged him afterwards, and during the duel), it was Subaru's own stubbornness that got him to where he ended up in the end there. Maybe I need to watch it again, you make some decent points. However you make it sound like Julius couldn't have handled this in a different way, and he absolutely could have. There was definitely a bit of leading go on there, not to mention a whole lot of butting in to what wasn't really his business to begin with. This was for Emilia to deal with. And as I said before Subaru was hardly the only one there with questionable competence. I mean we have Emilia who doesn't really know anything about anything herself, we have a little girl from the slums who thinks its all ridiculous (and frankly, it is) and actually wants to tear the country apart but apparently is fit to be a potential ruler, and what Julius can't handle is some dude he doesn't even fucking know at this point wanting to be Emilia's champion? I'm sorry but to me that's a little douchey coming from someone trying to act like he has the moral high-ground here. Technically, any of the knights could have (and probably would have) spoken up at Subaru's belittlement of them and challenged him, but Julius just did it first. Subaru basically made it all the knights business when he claimed himself to be a knight of Emilia, in front of the entire Order of Knights no less. The fact that Subaru does not understand the customs or proper etiquette of their world would be lost on the rest of the knights, considering they don't know him at all. He's suppose to be a butler of a renown personage (Rosewell), and running his mouth at the elections was not only nothing butler-like at all, but to be quite honest extremely offensive and out of place. Any of the knights at that point could have "punished" him for his insults. I doubt they'd just go "Oh, he's just a dumbass who is running his mouth" and let it go at that. From what was shown in that episode, they were all properly offended by him (they were calling for his head at the duel). Reinhart and Julius were the only two at that point that had actually talked with Subaru. Reinhart wouldn't have gotten angry, because he considers Subaru a friend. It wasn't just a case of questionably competence. Julius took the initiative to save his ass from the other Knights' anger. He even provided him with the opportunity to explain himself and to apologize. It wasn't his fault Subaru couldn't read the social cues and continued to spit in his face after that. |
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Aug 22, 2016 12:42 AM
#378
Rehls said: 1) If you understood Subaru, you'd know that he breaks mostly due to lack of hope. But in the battle he had everything going for him. It's only natural that he tries his best, and that he doesn't let weakness overcome him. Remember that he's prideful. I'd say that it's simply because after torturing him as a ragdoll, the author now wants him to be a glorious hero. The author just doesn't care about making a gradual development anymore (like he did in arcs 1+2), he is simply going for maximum impact. Think Geass second season, where the jumps in the story for pure shock value got more and more ridiculous, too. But that was just a sidenote: My real point was that a person falling from the sky cannot be saved by pulling him _down_ with a ball and chain. Then again, why bother mentioning this in a Bond movie? It's not supposed to make sense, only to look cool. This scene was all flash and no brain. 2) Perhaps I didn't like Wilhelm's scream much. The way he appeared was fine except for this. Yes, but it was so 100% predictable (see last episode's discussion) that any emotional impact was lost for me. It was a mere "and there he is". 3) It didn't to me. It seemed to have been better animated and directed than before. It was even better. The first time, using the witch as aggro boost was clever. The second time, it was embedded in a ridiculous over-the-top scene (which you seemed to perceive as heroic instead). So our mileage will vary. 4) Them cutting such a colossal tree was a bit a stretch to me. Fire wouldn't work well in the cutting. It'd be Crusch's sword ability that'd be the most effective. But it falling on the whale? It was fine. It's colossal. Covers plenty of space. Why was a tree of this size there? How long would it take to cut it (instead of blowing it to smithereens) via magical barrage? How big is the probability to have this huge tree fall at the whale just at the right time? Besides, the tree's diameter was smaller than the whale's length. I'd have given it the benefit of doubt if they had cut the tree _first_ and Subaru had "pulled" the Whale into the path of the falling tree, but that's not how it was. That's my main gripe: This scene may be creative, but it is so totally absurd that it can only be watched with a gigantic suspension of disbelief. It was a Bond movie resolution. And the crises in arc 1+2 were not. 5) Subaru's enjoying his moment. He keeps his worries in check. There are formalities that should be dealt with there. He's to talk with the others. It'd make no sense for him to simply forget everything that just happened and only focus his thoughts on the cultists. Contrast his actions with his utter urgency to get to the village and Emilia as quickly as possible. "I NEED TO HURRY" was _the_ main message, and lo and behold, he was right! Only when he rushed like a madman he was able to reach them in time, and even after escaping the whale, he still ran into Cultists. Now, he shows zero urgency. It's as if the cultists (who at least to my knowledge shouldn't be hindered by the whale's demise) would now be required to wait until Subaru has completed his victory lap. You don't find this inconsistency jarring at all? 6) ... Did you even understand what she meant? She meant that even after solving these issues [after she's been of more use], "Will you still keep me by your side, Subaru?" Subaru: "Yes." Otherwise? They could not remain as close, because he could not need Rem as much [in between problems], and because we know he loves Emilia. This entire issue was already resolved between the two in episode 18. Nothing has changed between Rem and Subaru, it was no temporary pact until they defeated the whale. They already had made an understanding there (in a way which I really liked, this scene was well-done!) To reheat this scene yet again felt extremely corny to me. It lessens Rem as a character in my eyes, gradually reducing her from awesome independent person to trophy fan-maid. And I feel that the author did it because after all the torture porn, he wanted to celebrate Subaru as an uber-hero now. No matter that he had to do that in an overblown way that would make Pierce Brosnan blush. 7) No problem with this. Many were already expecting something like the cult attacking. Merchants are dealers with many connections with important people. It's logical for them to possess more information. We've been shown what Anastasia excels at. Ricardo serves under her. When he said 'merchants', he was referring to Anastasia's (their) trade. It was one more convenient cop-out, because the author felt "uhhh, maybe I should toss in an explanation why the cultists are still not murdering everybody while Subaru is being praised by Crusch and cuddling with Rem". But it doesn't help, because Subaru should have shown urgency BEFORE he learned about it. Again, consistency. So, to summarize: In this arc, the story changed from being mysterious and credible to being haphazard and blatant (torture porn to uber-awesome). It also made me understand that it's not really Subaru which is rubbing me the wrong way, but rather the Author's "jump from one extreme to the other for flashiness" storytelling. "Zero to Hero in a Day" isn't my cup of tea. I'll still continue to watch the show eagerly on the same day it comes out (a claim only 2 more shows can make), but if this current "reality be damned" trend continues, I'd find it extremely regrettable. |
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Aug 22, 2016 12:47 AM
#379
Buck_Wade said: Terium said: Buck_Wade said: Terium said: I'm getting really pissed when seeing anime hipsters writing unnecessary comments about how they think certain shows are bad. Why would you watch it if you think it's bad? You're certainly not a professional critic, so... why? I would never dream of going to the trouble of pissing on something just to tick off the people who enjoy it. Is it in their nature to assert their idiocy to make others feel anger? I just don't understand it. Don't go out of your way trying to convince people to hate something just because you feel that your exquisite taste in complex, superb <insert ambiguous word that asserts your intellect here> anime is above others opinions, shouldn't mean you have any right to drown it in pessimistic drabble. Get off you high horse, take off your fedora, tuck in your ego and get the fuck out of here instead of infecting everything you touch by your toxic negativity. I know this is the internet and people can behave however they want without repercussion, so how about this: Grow a smile for a change, read/watch/play etc. whatever you enjoy and be happy about the things that makes you happy instead of draining others of joy, turning them into cynics. I'm trying to not be one myself but in all honesty, that ship has already sailed. I wish I could just ignore everything but clearly, I lack the ability to do so. People are simply stating their opinions and why they think so. The people you really should be criticizing are the ones who FORCE those opinions on others and insult them (*coughs* That Anime Snob). Yeah, that's what I meant - forcing opinions. It freakin annoys me, because writing is something formed from our imaginations, and there's different standards as to what people believe is good writing: Some think that a character being unlikeable is bad writing, while I think it's completely okay to do so in general. Writing is art, not science, that's what people forget. Yeah and it seems that it's unimaginable for some that you can enjoy something without finding a deep meaning in it. If you enjoy it - you enjoy it :p |
Aug 22, 2016 12:50 AM
#380
I see so many long as hell posts on this forum.. Pain in the bum bum to read all of them so im just gonna make a small remark... Anyone else start feeling sad in the Wilhelm and Astrea scene... For some reason i felt like crying a little. (I didnt! Baka) |
Aug 22, 2016 12:56 AM
#381
This episode is easily one of my favourite episodes of the series now; it was fantastic. There were so many amazing moments in this episode alone. The standout scene to me was the transition of Wilheim's past to the present while he was fighting the White Whale. I just can't get enough of these flashbacks with Theresia and Wilhelm; they were just so beautiful. Wilhelm yelling out 'I love you' after he defeated the White Whale was such a powerful scene. Subaru has proven that he can be an amazing leader when the time comes and it really showed in this episode. Not only that but Subaru's character has improved drastically over the past few episodes. The scene with Crusch thanking Subaru and telling that she'll respect Subaru even if they become enemies was also such a great moment. However, I can't forget the Rem and Subaru moments in this episode. This episode just shows why Rem is best girl and is my favourite character in the series. She cares for Subaru so much and she really shows it. I laughed pretty hard when Rem said 'thanks for the treat'. xD Rem tearing up and saying that Subaru is the best hero in the world was just a heartfelt moment. You've done well Rem now have a good rest! Subaru sees Julius at the end and gets really angry. I really hope things won't go sour because of it. Please Subaru, don't fuck this up. Excited to see the Witch Cult fight though~ 5/5 |
Aug 22, 2016 12:56 AM
#382
LayedBack said: Yeah. Julius becomes a goody goody back then and later someone else slits his throat at the middle of the night for disrespecting the Knights In the kingdom. GJ Z-Dante said: Subaru finally "got his shit together" but yet getting jealous at the sight of Julius?? WTF is wrong with you, man? He came to help you out of his sheer goodwill yet you do not recognize how much of a bro Julius is? You deserve to die 10 more times for this great sin, Subaru dono.... Neglecting the best bro of the series, it's not fair Subaru kun >_< And white fox, please don't show me false hopes of Rem x Barusu only to crush it later! My weak heart can't take it ;_; Lol yeah, dude man only beat Subaru half to death in order to "help him". I do sorta get that, its a harsh lesson for a harsh world. But frankly, not much separated Subaru's level of naivity and powerlessness from Emilia's or some others there, whether they realize or not Emilia is over here getting fucking whacked by the order just a few days later like a dumb bitch. The real dick move was picking him apart, humiliating him and revealing his foolishness in such a public place. I mean yeah, on one hand Subaru was tripping hard and being immature as fuck, but I have to say if this knight guy is supposed to have his shit together and is actually being benevolent, he could have done the whole thing in a much more discreet way. Dick move, bro. You still don't know how the world of Re:Zero works man... Do you have any idea how many Enemies he would make if Julius didn't punish him right here and then. Julius's objective was to make the other knights feel sorry for Subaru so NONE of them would keep any grudges against him and that's what he did. He even got punished for going so far while he did it just for Subaru's sake all along.... If you still say Julius was being a dick..., then OK |
Aug 22, 2016 12:57 AM
#383
How is this "Best Attack" maybe "Better than Tooth Decay Attack" At least he admits it later.. |
Aug 22, 2016 12:58 AM
#385
Those feels tho.... Wilhelm and his wife's flashback pioneered the epicness of this episode. When he finally said I love you at the end was op as well.. |
Aug 22, 2016 1:04 AM
#386
So much for hoping that Subaru would send out a distress call using his metia to Itami @ Alnus D: Thus the JSDF fought in Lugunica TOO |
Aug 22, 2016 1:14 AM
#387
Z-Dante said: You still don't know how the world of Re:Zero works man... Do you have any idea how many Enemies he would make if Julius didn't punish him right here and then. Julius's objective was to make the other knights feel sorry for Subaru so NONE of them would keep any grudges against him and that's what he did. He even got punished for going so far while he did it just for Subaru's sake all along.... If you still say Julius was being a dick..., then OK I need to go back and rewatch this episode at some point then because I'm starting to think I've misremembered things a bit, lol. Thing is, the way I thought it went down is that Subaru basically just volunteers to be Emilia's champion at first, and then he only starts tripping after Julius steps in to question that, which to me seemed entirely unnecessary at that point and it seemed like he was just being a bit of a dick to begin with, which colors the entire situation much differently if I'm right. I know at a certain point Subaru really fucking steps in it regardless and brings it upon himself, but I was thinking it happened after Julius started messing with him a bit by questioning his competence. But anyway my bad if I'm mistaken here. I need to go to sleep and I don't intend to check now so hopefully I haven't confused anyone other than myself. |
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Aug 22, 2016 1:16 AM
#388
Another good episode, things have finally turned for the better after Subaru got his -engine- head fixed Hopefully they'll crush the witch's cult this time for the sake of Subaru's and all of our audience's mind Never cared about #bestgirl in anime but Rem deserves so much better than this, a better role and most importantly, a more competent MC, #Rembestgirl2016 |
Aug 22, 2016 1:32 AM
#389
Proof Rem is best girl... Emilia MAL favourites: 1485 (at this current time) Rem MAL favourites: 5125! (at this current time) It isn't even a competition, Make Rem the next ruler in the royal election make the whole show about Rem! Make Subaru see the light! Also awesome episode, Was a little worried he'd might have to start over again when I saw more White Whales but I'm glad they got past it in style, Shame Rem won't be joining him but that's alright I'm just glad she's still alive after the last confrontation with the White Whale. Love the little mini story with Wilhelm, They used a good amount of small clips that it didn't interrupt the battle but kept his motivation in check and made it a bit emotional. As usual looking forward to whatever comes next, This show is so enjoyable for me, It's going to suck when it's over but I'll move over to the manga when that happens. |
exLightningAug 22, 2016 1:37 AM
Aug 22, 2016 1:38 AM
#390
Ahh the so sudden entrance of more whales was indeed a trick.. not an illusion though, but still in the same vein of what I assumed. So in the end Wilhelm got his revenge, that's great. Subaru going from zero to hero, on the way to reach the skies of heroism. |
Aug 22, 2016 1:53 AM
#391
Mentar said: Rehls said: 1) If you understood Subaru, you'd know that he breaks mostly due to lack of hope. But in the battle he had everything going for him. It's only natural that he tries his best, and that he doesn't let weakness overcome him. Remember that he's prideful. I'd say that it's simply because after torturing him as a ragdoll, the author now wants him to be a glorious hero. The author simply doesn't care about making a gradual development anymore (like he did in arcs 1+2), he is simply going for maximum impact. Think Geass second season, where the jumps in the story for pure shock value got more and more ridiculous, too. But that was just a sidenote: My real point was that a person falling from the sky cannot be saved by pulling him _down_ with a ball and chain. Then again, why bother mentioning this in a Bond movie? It's not supposed to make sense, only to look cool. This scene was all flash and no brain. 2) Perhaps I didn't like Wilhelm's scream much. The way he appeared was fine except for this. Yes, but it was so 100% predictable (see last episode's discussion) that any emotional impact was lost for me. It was a mere "and there he is". 3) It didn't to me. It seemed to have been better animated and directed than before. It was even better. The first time, using the witch as aggro boost was clever. The second time, it was embedded in a ridiculous over-the-top scene (which you seemed to perceive as heroic instead). So our mileage will vary. 4) Them cutting such a colossal tree was a bit a stretch to me. Fire wouldn't work well in the cutting. It'd be Crusch's sword ability that'd be the most effective. But it falling on the whale? It was fine. It's colossal. Covers plenty of space. Why was a tree of this size there? How long would it take to cut it (instead of blowing it to smithereens) via magical barrage? How big is the probability to have this huge tree fall at the whale just at the right time? Besides, the tree's diameter was smaller than the whale's length. That's my main gripe: This scene may be creative, but it is so totally absurd that it can only be watched with a gigantic suspension of belief. It was a Bond movie resolution. And the crises in arc 1+2 were not. 5) Subaru's enjoying his moment. He keeps his worries in check. There are formalities that should be dealt with there. He's to talk with the others. It'd make no sense for him to simply forget everything that just happened and only focus his thoughts on the cultists. Contrast his actions with his utter urgency to get to the village and Emilia as quickly as possible. "I NEED TO HURRY" was _the_ main message, and lo and behold, he was right! Only when he rushed like a madman he was able to reach them in time, and even after escaping the whale, he still ran into Cultists. Now, he shows zero urgency. It's as if the cultists (who at least to my knowledge shouldn't be hindered by the whale's demise) would now be required to wait until Subaru has completed his victory lap. You don't find this inconsistency jarring at all? 6) ... Did you even understand what she meant? She meant that even after solving these issues [after she's been of more use], "Will you still keep me by your side, Subaru?" Subaru: "Yes." Otherwise? They could not remain as close, because he could not need Rem as much [in between problems], and because we know he loves Emilia. This entire issue was already resolved between the two in episode 18. Nothing has changed between Rem and Subaru, it was no temporary pact until they defeated the whale. They already had made an understanding there (in a way which I really liked, this scene was well-done!) To reheat this scene yet again felt extremely corny to me. It lessens Rem as a character in my eyes, gradually reducing her from awesome independent person to trophy fan-maid. And I feel that the author did it because after all the torture porn, he wanted to celebrate Subaru as an uber-hero now. No matter that he had to do that in an overblown way that would make Pierce Brosnan blush. 7) No problem with this. Many were already expecting something like the cult attacking. Merchants are dealers with many connections with important people. It's logical for them to possess more information. We've been shown what Anastasia excels at. Ricardo serves under her. When he said 'merchants', he was referring to Anastasia's (their) trade. It was one more convenient cop-out, because the author felt "uhhh, maybe I should toss in an explanation why the cultists are still not murdering everybody while Subaru is being praised by Crusch and cuddling with Rem". But it doesn't help, because Subaru should have shown urgency BEFORE he learned about it. Again, consistency. So, to summarize: In this arc, the story changed from being mysterious and credible to being haphazard and blatant (torture porn to uber-awesome). It also made me understand that it's not really Subaru which is rubbing me the wrong way, but rather the Author's "jump from one extreme to the other for flashiness" storytelling. I'll still continue to watch the show eagerly on the same day it comes out (a claim only 2 more shows can make), but if this current "reality be damned" trend continues, I'd find it extremely regrettable. Uh? Wut. Not sure why you're saying that. It's like you're saying just for the sake of it. So, you took on a possibility and said 'this will happen from now on'. Eh? You can keep hoping, I guess. The ball and chain? That was as much a stretch as Subaru throwing 50kg Ram. Did you complain about that? This is nitpicking I think. Oh and you should've considered that Rem could've quite easily grabbed him in mid air. She wasn't made to do so by choice... The ball and chain appeared cooler, eh. Wasn't there also the Riger kids? They could've done it, too. Wasn't it Subaru that made that scene dramatic? That's his POV. We don't have to share it if we don't want to. But by the way, Wilhelm wasn't sure whether he'd return from that. The show was only being true to the characters' judgement of the situation. Y'know? It'd be wrong for the scene to not be portrayed dramatically, when the characters themselves consider it as such. Just accept what you see. It isn't forcing. It's just being true to the situation. So your complaint here I don't think is reasonable. Cynicism, isn't it? The lauching and arriving at the whale's horn? Was again a stretch, but why exactly do we've to mind it? The only thing there's to criticize about it, is him not possessing some kind of hook/climbing gear - because in reality he'd have fallen. Hmm. The tree cutting was a large stretch we can aggree. Thinking about it... It'd be not easy to include the time it'd take to cut the tree in a more logical way. Because the split whales were coming to Crusch, that was defending the injured... There wasn't much time to spare. Oh well. Perhaps the author should've chosen a less fantastical and more logical way, eh. But it was a question of choice. I'm sure it pleased most. It's acceptable. Well, Subaru should be aware of the exact time. The fight with the whale didn't take long, right? It took about half an hour at most. In episode 17 Subaru after escaping from the whale, arrived at the mansion in the evening. The dragon didn't have the wind barrier anymore, and it was walking, not running. Subaru rested and after Emilia died, kept holding her until sunset. So I don't think he should be worried, as he should be well aware that he can get there faster than before, and that there's much time left still. Hmm... I don't have a problem with it. Rem was being true to her feelings. She was feeling afraid of distancing himself from him... It happened after she was told that she couldn't accompany them. She wanted to reaffirm/make sure that Subaru would let her stay by his side. There was no need yet for urgency, like I explained. And... =_= FlameHaze19 said: How is this "Best Attack" maybe "Better than Tooth Decay Attack" At least he admits it later.. Lol____________________ |
removed-userAug 22, 2016 3:09 AM
Aug 22, 2016 2:10 AM
#392
Rem isn't going to be part of next arc I guess? Sad... At least she wont have be in danger. Also that hug and dialogue between her and Subaru was beautiful. Crusch was pretty nice and cute there, too. I am just relieved that whale is dead, Subaru did great and no one important died. I miss Emilia tho, bring her back already.. |
Aug 22, 2016 2:32 AM
#393
First of all, could you please be so kind to stop the quotealls? If you could simply cut them up to respond to my points, it would increase the readability immensely. Rehls said: The ball and chain? That was as much a stretch as Subaru throwing 50kg Ram. Did you complain about that? This is nitpicking I think. Oh and you should've considered that Rem could've quite easily grabbed him in mid air. My point was not the ball+chain, it is that no matter what you use, it's not possibe to save someone from falling by pulling him downwards (and so, even increasing his velocity). The ball and chain appeared cooler, eh. EXACTLY my point. Screw realism, go for flashiness. The show hasn't done this in the past, and in _my_ book, it's bad writing. Others may even prefer this, I don't want to judge objectively. I want to explain why _I_ disliked it. It's a change for the worse. Cynism, isn't it? The lauching and arriving at the whale's horn? Was again a stretch, but why exactly do we've to mind it? The only thing there's to criticize about it, is him not possessing some kind of hook/climbing gear - because in reality he'd have fallen. Among other things, yes. And no, pointing out this BS isn't "cynicism", it's expressed disappointment. Hmm. The tree cutting was a large stretch we can aggree. Thinking about it... It'd be not easy to include the time it'd take to cut the tree in a more logical way. Because the split whales were coming to Crusch, that was defending the injured... There wasn't much time to spare. Oh well. Perhaps the author should've chosen a less fantastical and more logical way, eh. But it was a question of choice. I'm sure it pleased most. It's acceptable. We're watching a fantasy show. Anything can somehow be justified in a magic context, and yes, I do concede that a modicum suspension of disbelief can be expected from the viewer to make things more dramatic. But this simply overdoes it in my opinion. Subaru's "normalness" helped anchor the show in believability in the past. And as much as I wanted Subaru to become more proactive, I didn't want him and the show to turn into Bond. To me, it doesn't feel heroic, it feels ridiculous. Hmm... I don't have a problem with it. Rem was being true to her feelings. She was feeling afraid of distancing himself from him... It happened after she was told that she couldn't accompany them. She wanted to reaffirm/make sure that Subaru would let her stay by his side. *shrugs helplessly* Look at the other comments, it's clear that a huge majority loved the scene to pieces, I'm aware that I'm in the total minority here. For me, there was no reason for Rem to utter these fearful-teary "won't you throw me away" at Subaru, and as someone who really loved Rem's "revival" of Subaru in 18, and who was genuinely touched by Rem's decision to stand by Subaru even after his admission to love Emilia (yet another thing I thought they did great in ep18!), it's simply saddening to me to see this proud, strong and kind girl of old reduced to adoring trophy maid in this manner. I prefer the strong-hearted Rem who cares for the boy she loves regardless of romantic rejection over the wavering Rem who tearfully begs the hero to please please not discard her. To each his own. |
MentarAug 22, 2016 2:39 AM
Aug 22, 2016 2:36 AM
#394
laudableshrimp said: R.I.P That big ass tree It shall now be forever known as Flugel's Stump. XD |
Aug 22, 2016 2:39 AM
#395
@Mentar said: "My point was not the ball+chain, it is that no matter what you use, it's not possibe to save someone from falling by pulling him downwards (and so, even increasing his velocity)." If you rewatch you'll notice that she pulled him more diagonally - almost horizontally. (How long is that chain?) So we can presume that the velocity was decreased. @Mentar The 'quotealls' I think are actually better. It makes it easier for us to keep track of the discussion. How about you number the paragraphs instead? Makes it easier. |
removed-userAug 22, 2016 2:45 AM
Aug 22, 2016 2:39 AM
#396
FlameHaze19 said: How is this "Best Attack" maybe "Better than Tooth Decay Attack" At least he admits it later.. Priceless, my Cub is trying his best |
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Aug 22, 2016 2:46 AM
#397
Rehls said: @Mentar said: "My point was not the ball+chain, it is that no matter what you use, it's not possibe to save someone from falling by pulling him downwards (and so, even increasing his velocity)." If you rewatch you'll notice that she pulled him more diagonally - almost horizontally. (How long is that chain?) So we can presume that the velocity was decreased. That won't help though :) ... if you fall vertically, and then a rope pulls you diagonally downwards, your velocity will still increase, even though your motion vector becomes more lateral. Let's just agree that Rem's boobs have perfect elasticity and saved Subaru from harm. That was the author's true intention anyway. |
Aug 22, 2016 2:55 AM
#398
Heretic391 said: Brilliant episode! Subaru's strategy, Rem's dedication and fighting, Wilhelms flashback and most importantly Subaru finally receiving recognition for his efforts (acts as a moral boost in my opinion) Seriously, without Subaru they would have failed. All it took was their captain to remind them that a 17 year old with no fighting skills, combat skills, etc, was more brave than them. I freaking love how Re: Zero keeps reminding us that it's LN protagonist is a weak little cockroahc. |
Aug 22, 2016 3:02 AM
#399
Mentar said: Rehls said: @Mentar said: "My point was not the ball+chain, it is that no matter what you use, it's not possibe to save someone from falling by pulling him downwards (and so, even increasing his velocity)." If you rewatch you'll notice that she pulled him more diagonally - almost horizontally. (How long is that chain?) So we can presume that the velocity was decreased. That won't help though :) ... if you fall vertically, and then a rope pulls you diagonally downwards, your velocity will still increase, even though your motion vector becomes more lateral. Let's just agree that Rem's boobs have perfect elasticity and saved Subaru from harm. That was the author's true intention anyway. Again it was about choice. Now you know what they could've quite easily done, right? It was grab him with the chain, then do a medium-high jump with the ground dragon, while pulling diagonally downwards - horizontally - then diagonally upwards, gradually decreasing the velocity. Subaru weighs less than Rem and the ground dragon combined. |
Aug 22, 2016 3:12 AM
#400
Heretic391 said: Buck_Wade said: Heretic391 said: Brilliant episode! Subaru's strategy, Rem's dedication and fighting, Wilhelms flashback and most importantly Subaru finally receiving recognition for his efforts (acts as a moral boost in my opinion) Seriously, without Subaru they would have failed. All it took was their captain to remind them that a 17 year old with no fighting skills, combat skills, etc, was more brave than them. I freaking love how Re: Zero keeps reminding us that it's LN protagonist is a weak little cockroahc. Funny that you mention a cockroach, they are easy to kill but it's almost like they respawn or something :D ...and also how many hated him like some pesky cockroach in episode 13-17 XD |
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