Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| Does Subaru really needs to die every single time to get some common sense like, don't stalk, don't insult and behave accordingly with the situation? I'm starting to desire a painful death for Subaru as his punishment for the next episode. |
Shrimperor said: I have more problems with what happened after. And how this Natsuki isn't the same Barusu from the first 11 episodes. Yeah, Neogaf people put it best in context in literally one sentence.. |
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Fai said: nny92 said: For a guy who has died that many times, snapping like that might've been healthier and more accurately portrays his humane features. Memories with the girl of your dreams that technically don't exist and deaths that no one remembers would be enough to break anyone. Apologies to anyone shaming Subaru but anyone calling him weak is either arrogant or lacks perspective. The problem is that the show does absolutely nothing to show that. The show does not bother to show us via tells that Subaru is suffering mentally and this is the result(like the show did in Arc2). The show just has him act stupid and do stupid shit without giving it a logical explanation it within narrative , So instead of progression of his issues we saw it feels more like reset to Arc1. Shouldn't we assume that Subaru is suffering mentally constantly and is just trying to toughen through it all? |
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Fappa said: MonoReaper said: Oh boy will this end like the AkamegaKill anime? Uhm nope? God people stop throwing a tantrum because of 2 episodes :P You are in for an unpleasant surprise, then. |
| That ending conversation was tense, like damn. Subaru's facial expressions were spot on. I wonder how things will move on from now on. Poor Subaru.... Things are slowly getting to him. Great episode. |
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johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. SO MUCH CRINGE Now this. Is the Pinnacle Of Taste |
Hayth said: This episode made me very depressed :( Watch Konosuba. It'll cheer you up. |
Epicenter said: Shouldn't we assume that Subaru is suffering mentally constantly and is just trying to toughen through it all? In arc 2 yes. Look at how his behavior is portrayed in Arc 1 where he seriously thinks all that. Look at how it is portrayed in Arc 2 where it is just a front as a way to deal with it. Now which one of the two is closer to how it is portrayed in Arc 3 now? The answer is Arc 1. |
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bacapo said: Subxaero said: Anime is a ''plot hole'' itself story is all over the place , havent read the manga, but the first 2-3 episodes were very solid,they should have kept the anime going from there, What plot hole ? Please explain ! The story still about Subaru's life in different world trying get his first love. Give us a hint about HOW he ended up there?Maybe stop openning new chapters every single episode. What was that medalion we wasted 3 episodes on?(3 interesting episodes that could move on) What happens with his powers. WHy he always gets ressurected in a convinient point for the plot the author drops the plot and does not pursue the various story strings any further but instead focuses on the main character and his relation with some random side characters. As a consequence, the whole plot deteriorates and is neglected. In fact, the plot becomes just some sort of insignificant byproduct of an average harem "other world" story. |
CorvusDruyaga said: Reading the comments thus far made me realize how many People misjudge Subaru in this Episode. Lets just recap, the dude died multiple times and had to start over without anyone remembering him or what happened in the timeline before. Dammit he wasnt even able to tell anyone about his "Return by Death", which makes this all the more difficult but lets let that aside for a Moment. Can you guys comprehend in the slightest how dying many times over and over and over again fucks up your mind ? Getting his belly cut open, getting smashed to death, getting cursed, i hope you get the Point, this outbursts of his is understandable it´s absolute human one might say. Now think you were in his shoes dying over and over again cruel deaths just to make everyones life happy and you get nothing in return, no thanks but instead the woman you like doesnt even remember a Thing due to the different timelines and cuts ties with you. Hell say what you want but everyone would have a meltdown in this Situation. Not understandable b/c he didn't need to make a scene at the event. That doesn't excuse him from anything. If he didn't make a fool out of himself, the conversation with Emilia would have never happened |
johnyjohny said: SimplyKairi said: He is right tho. Characterization is really nothing special.Don't like the show yet you're still watching and complaining. So tell me are you trolling? Or you generally don't comprehend the concept of Re:Zero? Nothing special? You do realize Characters, characterization, and plot pretty much make or break or an anime... |
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| a series that's willing to make me hate the MC, respect |
stone616 said: It's ok to help others to make yourself feel good. This guy isn't that sort. He helps others and wants the world to prop him up for it. She's important and he's not but he clearly wants to use the fact that he helped her to place himself into a status that doesn't belong to him. I question if he even really likes her. He's just a loser that happened into meeting a hot girl. He put on a fake persona to get her to be into him and she's a trophy to him. When he was screaming at her in the bed about her never being able to repay her debt to him that's who he really is. He's an insignificant powerless fool who wants to be important and matter. He found a way to capture those feelings but his curse won't even let him talk or brag about it. It's a good thing too because if he could talk about how he's died over and over to create an ideal timeline and hold that over their heads he'd be even more despicable than he already is. I don't see Subaru as that kind of character at all. He hasn't asked for anything after all the crap he has been through besides wanting to know Emilia's name after the Elsa arc and asking to work in the mansion. If he wanted the world to prop him up for it he could've gotten a lot more than that. It isn't who he really is per se when he was saying about the debt. He was extremely emotional and coupled with the inability to actually explain and get everything off his chest he just snapped. It happens in real life all the time. Like when someone has an extreme argument with someone and says "I'm gonna kill you" or "Maybe I should jump off a cliff". It doesn't mean they actually mean it. and feelings of regret will usually occur as soon as that person has calmed down, and they've maybe lied in their room sobbing for days or something. Considering how many times he has essentially saved people too, there is absolutely nothing insignificant about him either. |
johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. Calm down man. It's just some worthless score so no need to get butthurt over it. |
| Now Subaru needs to die and make everything not happen, meaning he just have to stay in mansion. This episode was really hard to watch, had to stop several times because of embarassment. It reminds me one of Tales of the abyss episodes. Luke was pathetic and childish, but then he cut his hair and got really good character development. In Subaru's case cutting hair is unnecessary, but the changes in his character is needed. |
Shiro-catJun 26, 2016 4:22 PM
Fai said: Epicenter said: Shouldn't we assume that Subaru is suffering mentally constantly and is just trying to toughen through it all? In arc 2 yes. Look at how his behavior is portrayed in Arc 1 where he seriously thinks all that. Look at how it is portrayed in Arc 2 where it is just a front as a way to deal with it. Now which one of the two is closer to how it is portrayed in Arc 3 now? The answer is Arc 1. Huh? Seriously thinks all of what? You mean his act? I think he was always somewhat of a pretender, even in arc 1, because he's a loser in normal life. Anyways, he was clearly frustrated and talking about how Emelia doesn't understand, clearly showcasing his issues where only he knows about all his deaths and their history together. Plus, ignoring everything I said, I see 0 reason why Subaru would EVER completely mentally recover from what has happened to him in this anime. They shouldn't to hit us over the head with the fact he is having mental struggles and is trying to fight through it, imo it is something we should assume is going on all the time. It's not like that cute little smile from Rem should of eliminated everything that should be weighing on his mental faculties |
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Fai said: Shrimperor said: I have more problems with what happened after. And how this Natsuki isn't the same Barusu from the first 11 episodes. Yeah, Neogaf people put it best in context in literally one sentence.. He is the same guy,this is the next step of his development... Subaru learned that SHIT IS REAL and HE IS NOT AN ANIME MC in second arc...Now he has to learn that he is a nobody,he cant use magic,he is not good at fighting,he is not the smartest guy...He has to learn that he is not a shining white knight and Emilia is not the damsel in distress he is destined to save and live happily forever... |
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Idiotproofninja said: PukingMachines said: a series that's willing to make me hate the MC, respect There are plenty of shows with useless MCs. that's not what i said, learn to read |
Plus OVA was released rather recently. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
Fai said: Shrimperor said: I have more problems with what happened after. And how this Natsuki isn't the same Barusu from the first 11 episodes. Yeah, Neogaf people put it best in context in literally one sentence.. Couldn't have said it better. eslej said: I'm starting to desire a painful death for Subaru as his punishment for the next episode. And that's a problem i have with this Series atm. Making us want the MC dead isn't good. Killing him without making us hate him (or better yet, making us feel for him like in Arc2) is much much better. This Idiot isn't Barusu. Give Barusu back, Re:zero. |
Z4k said: I want people to understand man. These messed up people they need to be cured.johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. Calm down man. It's just some worthless score so no need to get butthurt over it. |
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Idiotproofninja said: Subxaero said: Give us a hint about HOW he ended up there?Maybe stop openning new chapters every single episode. What was that medalion we wasted 3 episodes on?(3 interesting episodes that could move on) What happens with his powers. WHy he always gets ressurected in a convinient point for the plot the author drops the plot and does not pursue the various story strings any further but instead focuses on the main character and his relation with some random side characters. As a consequence, the whole plot deteriorates and is neglected. In fact, the plot becomes just some sort of insignificant byproduct of an average harem "other world" story. Do those things have anything to do with I'm Horny for Emilia and need her to say I'm awesome. Nope? Then I'm not interested - Subaru. That's how the show works. The point of the show is this guy needs to be the center of the world when it comes to Emilia. Zeally said: Not understandable b/c he didn't need to make a scene at the event. That doesn't excuse him from anything. If he didn't make a fool out of himself, the conversation with Emilia would have never happened They wanted pointless forced drama so here we are. PukingMachines said: a series that's willing to make me hate the MC, respect There are plenty of shows with useless MCs. The last one you quoted doesn't make any sense. A character can be hated without being useless. |
LoneWizard said: Subaru learned that SHIT IS REAL and HE IS NOT AN ANIME MC in second arc...Now he has to learn that he is a nobody,he cant use magic,he is not good at fighting,he is not the smartest guy...He has to learn that he is not a shining white knight and Emilia is not the damsel in distress he is destined to save and live happily forever... While all of that was already seen in Arc2.... And even then, why does it have to be like this? It's like watching a different Character in Barusu's Body. |
| If anything, Rem's arc contributed to his arrogant -i can win everything- demeanor. |
Shrimperor said: Did you even read what i wrote =_=LoneWizard said: Subaru learned that SHIT IS REAL and HE IS NOT AN ANIME MC in second arc...Now he has to learn that he is a nobody,he cant use magic,he is not good at fighting,he is not the smartest guy...He has to learn that he is not a shining white knight and Emilia is not the damsel in distress he is destined to save and live happily forever... While all of that was already seen in Arc2.... And even then, why does it have to be like this? It's like watching a different Character in Barusu's Body. He learned nothing about Emilia in second arc...He barely even saw her... PukingMachines said: yup,he was the hero of the village,he learned magic,he killed some beasts...He learned he was not outstandingly strong,not the main story of a fantasy story but he still thought he was better then your average soldier,thus he mocked knightsIf anything, Rem's arc contributed to his arrogant -i can win everything- demeanor. |
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Shrimperor said: LoneWizard said: Subaru learned that SHIT IS REAL and HE IS NOT AN ANIME MC in second arc...Now he has to learn that he is a nobody,he cant use magic,he is not good at fighting,he is not the smartest guy...He has to learn that he is not a shining white knight and Emilia is not the damsel in distress he is destined to save and live happily forever... While all of that was already seen in Arc2.... And even then, why does it have to be like this? It's like watching a different Character in Barusu's Body. yeah as the post I linked said, we literally spent whole cour on that already. Except without cringe and with natural progression of characterization. |
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iRels said: Shrimperor said: Couldn't have said it better. And that's a problem i have with this Series atm. Making us want the MC dead isn't good. Killing him without making us hate him (or better yet, making us feel for him like in Arc2) is much much better. This Idiot isn't Barusu. Give Barusu back, Re:zero. He's the same guy. You guys simply didn't understand enough about him. It's only to be expected that none of you is a source reader. hey, i aint no source reader and i understood well enough, also you shouldn't be forced to read the source material to understand the whys, that a very weak argument |
| so far, the story is decent overall, but damn i hate these characters. especially the MC. hopefully this arc is better than that last snorefest |
Fai said: I see we are ignoring posts without even reading to say same things again and again now...I will try my best to do the same in the future ^_^Shrimperor said: While all of that was already seen in Arc2.... And even then, why does it have to be like this? It's like watching a different Character in Barusu's Body. yeah as the post I linked said, we literally spent whole cour on that already. Except without cringe and with natural progression of characterization. |
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iRels said: He's the same guy. You guys simply didn't understand enough about him. It's only to be expected that none of you is a source reader. Don't bring up the source here. If it's the adaption's Fault, it isn't our Fault. Which proves what me and others are trying to prove... This Subaru is different. He wasn't that freakly obsessed with Emilia before. He crushed on her, true, but not yandere lvl 9001. And he definetly wasn't a complete retard in Arc2. Neither in Arc1. I can't imagine This Subaru doing 10% of what he did in Arc1. Edit: And to your 2nd part, he already saw how strong Saber Reinhardt is in Arc1. Him mocking the Knight makes 0 Sesne lel. |
ShrimperorJun 26, 2016 4:31 PM
Z4k said: johnyjohny said: Lol what a garbage. Pretty over hyped show. It's funny how it stands above Hero no academia in ranking people really are retarded and are satisfied as long some pretty girls are in anime. So pathetic. Calm down man. It's just some worthless score so no need to get butthurt over it. ngl...this anime being ranked #39 of all time bothers me. i get that everything on this site is wildly overrated, but #39? |
Shrimperor said: Yes he was...He was obsessed with Rem,Ram,village children,Rom,Felt AND Emilia...He is the same Subaru...Which proves what me and others are trying to prove... This Subaru is different. He wasn't that freakly obsessed with Emilia before. He crushed on her, true, but not yandere lvl 9001. And he definetly wasn't a complete retard in Arc2. Neither in Arc1. I can't imagine This Subaru doing 10% from what he did in Arc1. |
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