| i mean i want 1080p cus it is pretty but i can't buy anime and streaming is shit so yeah 720p is easier so find so that is how i go. |
| anime with cute girls is my thing. |
| On my desktop, yes. Considering I watch most anime on my cellphone now-a-days, no. |
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| 720p is good but watching 1080p anime is glorious. |
| i usually just get 720 but sometimes 1080 is nice 2! |
| I do not see much difference between 720p or 1080. I watch in 720 because it is faster to download takes less space. |
| Usually 720p. When it comes to a show i deeply love i go with 1080p. Lower than 720p only when i can't find what i'm willing to watch in a better quality |
| I prefer 1080p but 720p is fine too. |
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| 1080p all the way. |
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AirStyles said: It depends on how much I like them. If it's just a time waster, I'm happy enough with 480p. 720 for normal 1080 for shows I really love. |
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| 480p for shows that are really long and that would be large in file size, 720p for small shows that range from 12 or 13-26 episodes. Or if I can't find the show in 480p or 720p, I just find whatever is available. My PC can't handle 1080p because I have a shit video card and can't afford to upgrade it, plus my CPU fan is on the verge of going out ( the one that's on top of the GPU) and once that goes out I'm fucked, i'm waiting patiently for my new fan to come in any time now. That was a big off topic but yeah, I just choose whatever my computer can handle like 480p or 720p. |
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| 1600x900 / 16:9 is the resolution of my monitor so no I don't care T_T (want a 1080P monitor badly actually) I don't think it's that much of a trouble, if its for the company producers anyways. |
| i dont care whats the best quality . as long that i can watch it nicely & better . |
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| I'm fine with 360 and 480p, honestly. This reminds me of people who swear they can't play a game at 60 fps or lower. 20 fps for me is still playable. |
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| I seen several claims that 1080p is just a upscale of 720p, so I don't bother with them if it isn't a blu-ray rip. |
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| 720p most of the time. I don't bother because it is an upscale and also file size. I can bare with 480p if I have to. 360p and under like those ones on those shitty streaming sites are pure eye cancer. Never again. |
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Lanvidia said: You stated that watching 480p in 2014 is unacceptable, without any qualifiers like "people still watch 480p when HD is available?" Not seeing invisible text doesn't make me an idiot. Also, many people do refuse or at least hesitate to watch anything that's only available in low resolutions. Note that lots of people set their watching cutoffs at years like 2006-07 (when HD started to become available) and 2010-11 (when natively-SD anime was all but gone), despite the lack of real art or production shifts in those years as we saw with the cel -> digipaint transition in 2000.Zalis said: You do know that some anime aren't available in anything higher than 480p, right? Not everyone restricts their viewing to "whatever's airing right now" or "anything 2010 and newer." You're an idiot and you obviously don't know the concept of 'common sense'. Obviously if there's something only available in 480p you have no choice but to watch that resolution. Lanvidia said: Okay, yes, I'll agree that I have "low standards." But if I get the same experience and entertainment value as others do from the content, what does it matter? As for the point of saying it, I was stating reasons behind my resolution preferences that go beyond being mysteriously stuck in 2006 and not getting the memo that it was 2014, as you appeared to believe. Why should I conform to others' arbitrary "standards" and waste my disk space and bandwidth for higher resolutions when I perceive little to no benefit from them, just because the calendar says a random number? What was the point of saying this? Even if you justify why you have low standards it doesn't change the fact that you have low standards. Ross123456 said: So I suppose these somehow don't count as reasons?i get 1080p if it's available, if you have decent internet there's no reason to not get 1080p 1) Your* PC won't play it smoothly (or at all) 2) Your screen isn't big enough to display it (hence the extra resolution is just wasted overhead data) 3) The anime itself isn't worth 1080p (again, wasted data vs. a lower resolution version) 4) The available 1080p versions are crappy CR web-rips 5) Your hard drive space is limited; the space saved by getting something less than 1080p is better used by getting a different series *Assume these are all "generalized you" And of course, some/many people do have non-decent internet with limited bandwidth, traffic shaping that inhibits torrenting, and transfer caps. Somehow, I don't think the extra resolution from 1080p is worth paying overage costs or getting throttled. basspig said: As I stated earlier, pre-1999 cel/film anime are more likely to look better in 1080p than early/mid-00s digital anime, so no surprise there. While the differences between 1080p Blu-Ray and degraded VHS or incompetent DVD are going to be striking and noticeable, a lot of the 720p/1080p comparisons (for typical TV anime, maybe not movies) come down to slight differences in irrelevant background details like wood grains, roof tiles, and wall textures. Do people really watch anime for that stuff?720P is okay for internet versions of simpler-drawn anime, but for serious viewing on a large screen, it doesn't convey as much detail. Even older anime like Akira find new life in 1080P. I just watched the Blu-ray of the restored Akira and I could not believe it looked this good. The last time I saw Akira was in 1988 on tenth generation VHS tape from a fan who got it from a tape trader who got it from... the picture was tearing as there was hardly any horizontal sync left in the signal and the colors bled all over the place. Back then, even on a 19" CRT, it gave me a headache to watch it. But remastered for BD, it looks amazing. A similar experience with Wings of Honneamise. The DVD was awful. The BD remaster was unbelievable--revealing lush details on the wider shots that I never knew the artists had drawn. xJapalicious said: I know some groups encode 1080p with FLAC audio and 10-bit h264 video, while the 720p gets lossy-codec audio and 8-bit h264. Theoretically, there shouldn't be that much difference if the two encodes are done the same way. But then again, I don't watch much 1080p anime, let alone on your setup.Zalis said: Do you even see a difference between them, given that your screen isn't big enough to display 1080p without downscaling? Yeah, the color quality is completely different for me. Also, the sound quality is usually different too. |
| Yes. I don't like 1080p because the quality is smaller. "ARE YOU INSANE OMG ME HATE ME HATE ARRRRRRR" Calm down. My notebook resolution is 1280 x 720. The "default" resolution is 720p. Bigger than that would be more than the default, in other words, the result would be too sharpened |
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| I watch on 720p for most of time and its ok there is not alot of diffrence between the 2, if its a movie ive been wat alot to or something like this i always looking for the best quality :) |
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| 1080 all the way! I personally love how much more crisp everything is in 1080, despite how small of a difference it really is. The only true drawback of going 1080 is the size, but that doesn't matter to me anymore. My new 3 TB external has removed the "damn, I don't have enough room on my HDD and I'll have to delete some things to download Kara no Kyoukai in 1080 at 54 GB." moments from my mind completely. Then again, I don't mind 720 since it really does look just about as good! All in all, I just want a clear picture. |
| You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend. Bruce Lee |
| In most cases, 720p is the way to go for me (my resolution is 1360x768). 480p sometimes look horribly upscaled on my monitor, while 1080p might just be GBs large (a hit for my download speed, and I'd rather have a few extra GBs for any other PC game than an anime series). I only download anything in 1080p if said thing isn't much tolling on HDD space (like 1.5GBs for a movie). In the end, 720p looks just as good on my monitor and doesn't take up much space. The only anime episodes I downloaded in 1080p are the first two episodes of Mirai Nikki in dual audio. I converted the first episode to 720p (because the original 1080p download was a whopping 1-2GBs for every 20mins episode) while retaining the dual audio ability for 150MBs if I remember correctly, and ditched the large 1080p version. |
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Lord_Pooka said: In most cases, 720p is the way to go for me (my resolution is 1360x768). 480p sometimes look horribly upscaled on my monitor, while 1080p might just be GBs large (a hit for my download speed, and I'd rather have a few extra GBs for any other PC game than an anime series). I only download anything in 1080p if said thing isn't much tolling on HDD space (like 1.5GBs for a movie). In the end, 720p looks just as good on my monitor and doesn't take up much space. The only anime episodes I downloaded in 1080p are the first two episodes of Mirai Nikki in dual audio. I converted the first episode to 720p (because the original 1080p download was a whopping 1-2GBs for every 20mins episode) while retaining the dual audio ability for 150MBs if I remember correctly, and ditched the large 1080p version. Don't be mistaken, 720p shows can be reasonably sized as well. I downloaded Madoka Magica today, but it's already a 9GB file for only a 12-episode series. |
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Yhuuro said: Lord_Pooka said: In most cases, 720p is the way to go for me (my resolution is 1360x768). 480p sometimes look horribly upscaled on my monitor, while 1080p might just be GBs large (a hit for my download speed, and I'd rather have a few extra GBs for any other PC game than an anime series). I only download anything in 1080p if said thing isn't much tolling on HDD space (like 1.5GBs for a movie). In the end, 720p looks just as good on my monitor and doesn't take up much space. The only anime episodes I downloaded in 1080p are the first two episodes of Mirai Nikki in dual audio. I converted the first episode to 720p (because the original 1080p download was a whopping 1-2GBs for every 20mins episode) while retaining the dual audio ability for 150MBs if I remember correctly, and ditched the large 1080p version. Don't be mistaken, 720p shows can be reasonably sized as well. I downloaded Madoka Magica today, but it's already a 9GB file for only a 12-episode series. True, but most of the time the 1080p versions can be really a chore on HDD and download time. Dunno about how guys rip the things though and how they end up in space. My beloved Mirai Nikki in 720 takes up 5.5GBs for 26 episodes, while the dual audio 1080p version would take up 30.1GBs. It seems as if resolution is the main factor here though, cause I've got Higurashi nNKn in dual audio and 480p in the mere size of 1.5GBs for all 26 episodes. Video files are weird. |
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Lord_Pooka said: Yhuuro said: Lord_Pooka said: In most cases, 720p is the way to go for me (my resolution is 1360x768). 480p sometimes look horribly upscaled on my monitor, while 1080p might just be GBs large (a hit for my download speed, and I'd rather have a few extra GBs for any other PC game than an anime series). I only download anything in 1080p if said thing isn't much tolling on HDD space (like 1.5GBs for a movie). In the end, 720p looks just as good on my monitor and doesn't take up much space. The only anime episodes I downloaded in 1080p are the first two episodes of Mirai Nikki in dual audio. I converted the first episode to 720p (because the original 1080p download was a whopping 1-2GBs for every 20mins episode) while retaining the dual audio ability for 150MBs if I remember correctly, and ditched the large 1080p version. Don't be mistaken, 720p shows can be reasonably sized as well. I downloaded Madoka Magica today, but it's already a 9GB file for only a 12-episode series. True, but most of the time the 1080p versions can be really a chore on HDD and download time. Dunno about how guys rip the things though and how they end up in space. My beloved Mirai Nikki in 720 takes up 5.5GBs for 26 episodes, while the dual audio 1080p version would take up 30.1GBs. It seems as if resolution is the main factor here though, cause I've got Higurashi nNKn in dual audio and 480p in the mere size of 1.5GBs for all 26 episodes. Video files are weird. Ah.. you're right. Video files really ARE weird; I just compared Madoka Magica (720p, 12 ep, 9GB) with Nisemonogatari, also downloaded in 720p with 11 episodes, but that file is only 3.4GB. Now I'm confused as well. XD I guess it has to do with the amount of frames each show has per episode that increases the file size significantly? |
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| Yeah, 720p is more than enough. |
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Yhuuro said: Ah.. you're right. Video files really ARE weird; I just compared Madoka Magica (720p, 12 ep, 9GB) with Nisemonogatari, also downloaded in 720p with 11 episodes, but that file is only 3.4GB. Now I'm confused as well. XD I guess it has to do with the amount of frames each show has per episode that increases the file size significantly? Maybe maybe maybe you need to find the little text file that has all the details about your downloaded anime's codec and other blah blah blah, and compare the Madoka one to the Nisem- one, and see what's the matter. But if the problems were really more frames then I don't know what to say. Anime, in my opinion, is a lagging computer game built to be laggy (as in it doesn't have much visible frames per second), but at the same time I don't know what the actual frames per second are for anime regardless of whether it looks stuttery or not. Frames do not look like a thing Japan gets bothered with. |
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| I can see no difference between 720p and 1080p on my monitor so 1080p is just a waste of space. |
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Coppu said: An example of how some anime aren't worth 1080p. J.C. Staff Blu-Rays were notoriously bad (or at least disappointing) until midway through 2013, to the point where most ripping groups stopped encoding them in 1080p. Sometimes, 1080p will show too much detail. For example, in Toaru Majutsu no Index, I could see almost every detail and shade of colour. I didn't like it, so I tried 720p and it was more fitting. Lord_Pooka said: True, but most of the time the 1080p versions can be really a chore on HDD and download time. Dunno about how guys rip the things though and how they end up in space. My beloved Mirai Nikki in 720 takes up 5.5GBs for 26 episodes, while the dual audio 1080p version would take up 30.1GBs. It seems as if resolution is the main factor here though, cause I've got Higurashi nNKn in dual audio and 480p in the mere size of 1.5GBs for all 26 episodes. Video files are weird. Yhuuro said: The frames per second aren't really relevant - most anime are made at 24 fps, some with a mix of 24 and 30 fps, and a few in 30 fps. But there's usually a bunch of duplicate frames in there because very few anime actually have the budget to draw that many frames. The main things that affect file size are details and motion -- anime with lots of fine detail and/or lots of action going on need more data and bigger file sizes to preserve those elements, otherwise you'll see lots of blocking/artifacting on high-motion scenes, and details will be blurred out. Any scene that involves constant motion of small items like like snow, film grain, and rain will drive up required bitrate and file sizes as well. This can vary between episodes of the same show, as well -- if you look at my release of Iriya's Sky, Summer of UFOs, you'll see that ep 2 is considerably bigger than the others. This is because it has a long grainy flashback sequence largely set in a sandstorm.Ah.. you're right. Video files really ARE weird; I just compared Madoka Magica (720p, 12 ep, 9GB) with Nisemonogatari, also downloaded in 720p with 11 episodes, but that file is only 3.4GB. Now I'm confused as well. XD I guess it has to do with the amount of frames each show has per episode that increases the file size significantly? Otoh, low-key "talking heads" anime with flat textures and few fine details are much more compressible, and can have much smaller file sizes without compromising quality. Of course, some encoders and groups just encode everything with the same overkill settings and cause massive bloat. There's a point of diminishing returns where preserving smaller and smaller amounts of detail requires more and more bitrate, and the human eye isn't going to see those differences under normal viewing condition or even screenshot comparisons. Audio also affects file size, as many Blu-Ray ripping groups like to use lossless audio to impress all the dogs and bats who can actually hear the difference. But 1.5 GB for 26 episodes, especially with 2 audio tracks, is way too small for anything, even at 480p. Maybe even at 240p. 5.5 GB for 26 eps in 720p sounds pretty suspect as well, as my 400p TV version isn't much smaller than that. If your bandwidth/HDD can take it, I'd avoid any "mini" encodes or groups that claim "We don't reduce the quality, just the file size!" That might be true if groups re-encode massively bloated file sizes to typical sizes, but re-encoding typical sizes to "mini" sizes is always going to wind up terrible. |
Zalis said: But 1.5 GB for 26 episodes, especially with 2 audio tracks, is way too small for anything, even at 480p. Maybe even at 240p. 5.5 GB for 26 eps in 720p sounds pretty suspect as well, as my 400p TV version isn't much smaller than that. If your bandwidth/HDD can take it, I'd avoid any "mini" encodes or groups that claim "We don't reduce the quality, just the file size!" That might be true if groups re-encode massively bloated file sizes to typical sizes, but re-encoding typical sizes to "mini" sizes is always going to wind up terrible. This is the hard truth however. They're in 1.5GBs and 5.5GBs respectively, and despite that, they weren't that bad looking. I'll admit though that Higurashi nNKn had the name of the group on the episode itself before each title card, but despite that, the suicide scene was pretty much graphic just as I expected. And I have a couple of screenshots of my 720p Mirai Nikki, but they didn't wind up terrible. None of the entire show looked terrible from that rip. Video files are indeed weird. |
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| Don't care. My laptop can't even show the difference between 480p and 720p, what business do I have preferring 1080p over 720p? |
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| I still play PS2 videogames, I'm used to low quality, I don't care about 1080 or 720p. |
| Before I got a 1080p monitor, I stuck with 720p. Now that I have one, I needs it. |
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Chibbz said: 1080p is a bigger number 720p is a less bigger number so 1080p wins http://www.panfletonegro.com/v/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1378582490220.png |
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Yhuuro said: Chibbz said: 1080p is a bigger number 720p is a less bigger number so 1080p wins http://www.panfletonegro.com/v/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1378582490220.png Pretty much. |
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| I've got the screen and GPU to do it so I'll be damned if I don't use it, 1080p all the way! |
| 720p is fine for me, but wouldn't enjoy watching anything lower. I get really put off watching things in bad quality. Unless I have no choice, such as for older animes. |
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| Yeah we know the typical sh*t that we're all just watching these shows for the plot, but you might still realize...it matters! Almost all current animes are produced by standards at a native HD 720p, and you're obviously compromising yourself if your watching it at a lower resolution~ |
| 480p <3 btw, my 480ps are under 100MB. Only issue is that it's hard to find small encodes ;_; |
| Computer sucks. 720p only. |
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mayukachan said: 480p <3 btw, my 480ps are under 100MB. Only issue is that it's hard to find small encodes ;_; Heh, my 480ps average at around 50mb and my 720ps average at around 90mb. |
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| I dont care. 720p is enough for me. But it beomes really hard for me to watch 480p videos now. Unless for old movies/animes. |
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