Tengoku Daimakyou Episode 12 Discussion

mBlazi said:

I'll just say Robin is not Taka. That makes completely no sense and I don't know how you reached that conclusion.

Traotora said:
Robin is a jerk.

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MyllerPhiem said:
Last episode where a group of men were raped and held as semen slaves was not "the disturbing part" for you? Fuck you, Twitter-SJW.

rvdboom said:
And where is your argument? You just claim that there was hundreds of other ways to tell this part of the story, while you don't know anything about the past history of the characters

Naughty_Rudeus said:
NTR trash. I hate this anime. it was good until episode 12.

MineFord_gurme said:

Cry about it 😂🤡

Ventus_S said:
I've been spoiled of the rape thing very early on and now it's finally there.
I think the execution is done very well and it flash out what a twisted man Robin has become.
I know this is a controversial topic but given that the amount of 1/5 rating on this episode, seems to me Mal community is a lot more innocent than i thought lolz.
Like srsly you guys cant take this type of topic?

Also for a post apocalyptic dystopian society, rape is a pretty common theme, and you can see a lot of prostitutes walking on street looking for people, showing from the previous episodes already.

Hasan_Lelouch said:
I'm curious now to know if you people still like this awful show after this ep😂 it was obviously awful since around ep 4 or something with sh*t themes and topics, and here we go again😂

Amazing production/direction and visuals are wasted on this show ngl

Unoriginality said:
Why would he asked Maru to stay at home? That’s dumb, also very naive of her leaving her gun to Maru like that, without the gun she is nothing but a “prey”. Nontheless I hate this episode what the fuck

Unoriginality said:
Why would he asked Maru to stay at home? That’s dumb, also very naive of her leaving her gun to Maru like that, without the gun she is nothing but a “prey”. Nontheless I hate this episode what the fuck

BoiOBoi69 said:
making fun of people for not wanting to see a rape scene, which is avoidable in the story is a bit strange don't you think lad?

PuzzleHeadedTree said:
you forget they searched Kiruko for weapons before she was allowed to visit the filtration plant. She was probably told beforehand she wasn't allowed to bring weapons.

Hasan_Lelouch said:
I'm curious now to know if you people still like this awful show after this ep😂 it was obviously awful since around ep 4 or something with sh*t themes and topics, and here we go again😂

B3RyL01 said:
Yes. It's a great show. One of the best I've seen recently. It doesn't shy away from presenting the world it built up as being true to itself. There are good people, bad people, confused people and f*cked up people. And they all play a part in this world. Robin sits firmly in that last category, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have a place in the story. You cannot hope to endure the horror, if you refuse to look at it. That is the take away here, and it's something that is exciting to me. The prospect of people enduring the worst and still hoping, fighting for a better tomorrow. And it's perfectly fine if you prefer a more relaxed show, but I'm just confused why you're here in the first place.

Hasan_Lelouch said:


"more relaxed show", bro, I've seen more "horror" or "dark" themed shows, and I like such things, but it doesnt have to be all sexual. This show showed its true nature by having such themes as its sh*t core and messages. This ep didnt even put me off as much as ep 4-5-6 as well, where every cringe sh*t dialogue was s*x, touch, gender sh*t etc.. But still...
You can like it, I have nothing to do with this. I'm only saying my opinion

Why I'm here!? Before the season started, saw the trailer and loved the show from just that. 1st couple eps were amazing but then after that after revealing its themes my love turned to hate, I dropped it once, but yeah I got back later, as I said, it had incredible production and some cool moments. Sadly its wasted here. I hate dropping things as well. But yeah I may drop this for good for this time for the 1st time, that would be better

rvdboom said:
I'm fine with a show introducing difficult themes because including them in your story doesn't mean you endorse them in any way. And in this case, I believe the show introduces these themes because they are plausible in this context and they have an importance in the general story.
But in the end, the positive guy in me think that Maru and Kiruko already have found their paradise, it's one another. Their carefree, happy relationship and their positive nature despite everything they face show that being together is the best thing they can experience. And that's a pretty nice message.

Ventus_S said:
Well that's why Battle shonen like Demon Slayer exist.
It suited the type of normal audience like you guys :)
I mean there's plenty of shows with those common themes that only show the good side of the world already.

Mal ppl probably didn't know real world has a lot of awful things happened on a daily base w.o our notice.
What Haruki suffers is like everyday incident around the globe.  Being raped/ malice by someone close to them.
Child prostitution/ torture, etc.

Tsubasavo said:
WTF dude... As an anime only i thought the worst thing that could happen in this ep was Robin being revealed as the doctor who has taken over his body not fucking rape bruh. Goddamnit kiruko why did you not suspect a thing jfc

That's fucked up man. I was hoping Maru would secretly follow. Of all the times he picked to be decent and this happens

princess-weedo said:
Even Shinsekai yori was more tame, actually,

Mengning said:
Bro trying to justify rape. Deam, I love this community.

Mcfeeley said:
I can only guess based on how Robin was so at ease of doing this he also raped Kiruko in the past.  What a way to find out your sister was victimized.  I may go back and watch the past episode to see if the real Kiruko had and strange reactions about Robin’s presence.

Hasan_Lelouch said:
But you can still make a verygood, and deep and dark story, without being weird

deg said:
and the rape scene is finally here eh im glad they censored it since it was painful to read in the manga

Ventus_S said:
For people who said Robin's action is out of place and completely unhinted, think again.

1. All Robin rly does for Haruko is beat the shit out of a thief they're all trying to catch and reward him.
2. From ep3 we know he's being overprotective to children, but if you look at other way, maybe he has some pedophiliac complex , thus he takes special care with children. We dont rly know him.
3. Haruki doesn't rly live with him, nor spend a lot of time with him, he's like a far off model to him and that's it. We all know people have two faces which they show differently between different people.
4. All we know about Robin is from Haruki's limited perspective of his fantasized Robin, we don't rly know too much about this character on screen.
5. When Robin first showed up in ep12, he has a sinister look on his face, not like a good guy Haruki speaks of.
6. When he first saw Haruki's sister's face, he has a look as if he's looking at a ghost, showing that he might be the one who shoot Haruki's sister in ep3.
7. If he TRULY care about these siblings, why would he dump them immediately after the man-eater incident instead of helping them?

I think is pretty obvious Robin is a pretty messed up guy from ep3 alone honestly.
My point is we actually know very little about Robin as a character from Haruki's perspective. 

princess-weedo said:
Ah yes, we once again enterted Made in Abyss shock value cringe material, time to drop a new bomb on Japan.
An other anime ruined  for the sake of shock value, because its author is a fucking porn addict who grew on doujin, and can't write a story if it doesn't include their fucked up kink. What a fucking waste of material, bring me back to 2006 I beg you. Even Shinsekai yori was more tame, actually, and clever, unlike this piece of disturbing garbage that will never get a second season, which makes it all worthless.
Can't wait for the autistic local manchild to tell me that brainswaping underaged random ass rape is ok and report them to the FBI.