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Sep 16, 2016 12:44 AM

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This whole thing reminds me of something Monokuma said in DR1.

In the last trial they asked him how its possible to steal all their memories, and monokuma answers basically "it doesn't matter how, make up a reason yourself".
I was perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief and accept that he could do that, the method doesn't matter. And I never heard a complaint from anyone about that subject.

DR is an experience, when you start picking apart a story that wasn't meant to be taken seriously you're wasting the experience.
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Sep 16, 2016 12:59 AM

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Welp I'm officially dead inside.
Sep 16, 2016 1:04 AM

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Poor Nanami. If she's truly dead, then who is the mastermind for Mirai Hen? Can't wait for the next episode of Mirai hen.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Sep 16, 2016 1:09 AM

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What is with this anime?? Why Nanami died?o(〒﹏〒)o
My heart can`t take this anymore.. After Kirigiri in Mirai-hen....now Nanami (>_<)

Sep 16, 2016 1:10 AM

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I expected Izuru to be in the GOAL room, act as a Boss monster or something, and deal the finishing blow to Chiaki. Guess even Kodaka don't have balls to make Izuru killed his ex-waifu with his own hands.
Still, seeing that last scene of Izuru and Chiaki really hurts...
That Chiaki's last struggle and saying that she don't want to die.. My heart..

At least Kirigiri died a painless death but THIS?! Kodaka you damn sadist!

On side note, just when I thought Juzo's character could be any worse.
> Jobs off-screen to a high-school girl and group of scrubs despite being a former HSL Boxer
> Barely did anything productive in Future Arc, just being a fodder and filler a**hole faggot
> Now revealed to be a gay, not really surprised, but seriously?
At least he was killed by someone he loved. GG true definition of wasted potential and fodder character.
Sep 16, 2016 1:33 AM

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Ketuekigami said:
This whole thing reminds me of something Monokuma said in DR1.

In the last trial they asked him how its possible to steal all their memories, and monokuma answers basically "it doesn't matter how, make up a reason yourself".
I was perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief and accept that he could do that, the method doesn't matter. And I never heard a complaint from anyone about that subject.

DR is an experience, when you start picking apart a story that wasn't meant to be taken seriously you're wasting the experience.


Yeah, neither did I. Everyone just took that even though that was purposely shown BS and not one batted an eye. lol

Kay_Lite said:

On side note, just when I thought Juzo's character could be any worse.
> Jobs off-screen to a high-school girl and group of scrubs despite being a former HSL Boxer
> Barely did anything productive in Future Arc, just being a fodder and filler a**hole faggot
> Now revealed to be a gay, not really surprised, but seriously?
At least he was killed by someone he loved. GG true definition of wasted potential and fodder character.


Now that I think about it, yeah, I can totally understand this, but the potential may still be there, for all I know.
Sep 16, 2016 1:40 AM

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Rukoudiora said:
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Stated by Fake Naegi, aka Junko, aka Miss Liar ;P


Oh it was? I didn't read everything in the thread damn.

It... wasn't the fake Neagi.

Dangan2 states that Junko individually manipulated them, but Neagi says that they were all brainwashed. It contradicts itself, and even if it was the fake Neagi (which is isn't, because both Kirigiri and Togami are with him), why she program him to say something completely different than prior?

In any case, the brainwashing was canon before Dangan3 released, because it was confirmed by the real Neagi.
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Sep 16, 2016 1:41 AM

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When this was announced I wanted it to air as soon as possible.

Now i want it to stop, my heart is breaking in pieces.
Sep 16, 2016 1:44 AM

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My sadist fanboy-ism went crazy, but to be honest, I was not expecting Nanami to stay as alive as I thought. Also, for regarding the abilities this episode, I wasn't impressed in the slightest. Luck guy had no luck whatsoever, Nanami's gaming skills were mediocre, and all the other skills just happened to be for gags or comic relief. I'm still hyped it all ended up in despair atm, but extremely disappointed in how useless the abilities were this episode, except Junko's analyzing skills.
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Sep 16, 2016 1:51 AM

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Okay, I'm gonna write this while I still have not watched this episode. I had my doubts last episode, but after giving it a thought, I doubt Chiaki will be corrupted by the despair. She's probably going to leave an impact on Izuru/Hinata before the season ends, and that impact is going to save Hajime/Hinata (whether Chiaki survives or not, I still have my doubts. But I feel like she will die. Danganronpa writers love killing the much more interesting female main characters to give the boring main male characters development to make them tiniest bit interesting)
Having said that, I'm gonna write stuff as I watch the episode now.

So Juuzou really loves Munakata. Poor guy, getting laughed by everyone. I think I am starting to like him. Junko is horribly horrible, but we knew that already. I still like her anyway.

Wait... so Nanami got a punishment?? I thought she'd brainwashed, but her hope would be too strong to turn evil. Instead she'd go into a long coma or choose death over despair.
But man those traps... this is one of the worst punishments... Nanami... I love her... Such a strong determination...

But man, that's the worst way of putting the class into desparation. I did consider the possibility that Nanami will be chosen to put the rest of her classmates into despair, but I didn't know she will fight back so strong. This is beyond cruel.

it was painful seeing Chiaki struggling despite being pierced throughout her body...
See it went the way I thought it would. She's going to become a ray of hope for everyone. She might be indirectly the reason everyone is in despair now, but she will be the reason hope will come again.

Chiaki... Episode full of feels.
Sep 16, 2016 1:52 AM

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Damn i knew this would happen but... goddamn every fav or good charchter dying dammit.
Sep 16, 2016 1:57 AM
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This must be...TRUE DESPAIR.
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Sep 16, 2016 1:57 AM

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That torture..... even Kono Bijutsubu cant get me out of this despair.... and that last part.... fckng painful....
Sep 16, 2016 2:20 AM

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My hope of Chiaki being alive has been completely obliterated. Goodbye Chiaki you were too kind for this cruel world.

I was really hoping for a completely silly possibility where Izuru/Hinata uses his SHSL talent to save her. On this note I thought that the whole friendship miracle thing Junko mentioned would be Izuru showing up and doing nothing to save her despite Chiaki's pleading.

Juzo is homosexual. Did not see that coming. Still would love to know how he was knocked down.

I still feel that the plot and character development could have been a lot better. I guess they didn't have the budget and time to create a better plot. If it was me I would have definitely started SHSL despair with the Twilight Syndrome case.

This series should be called: Dangan Ronpa 3: The waifu murders.
Sep 16, 2016 2:41 AM

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I feel like my heart has been torn to pieces, I feel an indescribable pain. This is what I call TRUE DESPAIR. This show makes me suffer, makes me feel true terror, I want so bad to watch new episodes but when they came out I just have fear to watch them.
These are all the emotions I should've felt during *that* scene with Kirigiri in Mirai-hen and now it hurts more than before because I KNOW they could've done it so much better. But let's not talk about Mirai-hen now.

I knew it from the start that something was going to eventually happen to Chiaki, but something like this...? I mean, it's one of the most awful and cruel things I've ever saw. Poor Chiaki... she was so kind, why all this had to happen to her? I'm still in tears. :'(

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I'm going for a prediction here: Chiaki will be the main source of hope of the entire class, but when in the future something bad will happen to her, that hope will vanish causing in despair to prevail.


This is what I wrote on the 21st of July in the second episode thread and while it's always good when you guess something right, now I hate myself for even thinking of something. I already miss her so much.

Now let's talk just for a moment of Izuru Kamukura. I feel like, so far, he's the worst character developed. He's literally not doing anything, just wandering and occasionally commenting on what he's watching. Sure, last scene of this episode he contributed to crush my heart, but this is not enough. I expected A LOT more from him and, by far, he's just non-existent. I seriously hope he will do something if not in Zetsubou-hen AT LEAST in Mirai-hen, otherwise this would be a HUGE flaw from the show and the entire Danganronpa storyline. But I have faith.

Other things we know now is that, apart from Chisa becoming a Despair, Juzo has been partially corrupted from Despair as well. Junko revealed his huge secret, that basically he's homosexual and loves his beloved friend Munakata, crushing his hopes and forcing him to tell Kyosuke she did nothing wrong. And guess what, he accepts it. This is what Tengan meant when he said everyone from the Future Foundation had contacts with Despair, even if just a little I guess.
What I expect now from Mirai-hen? No traitor (at least ALIVE) and everyone of them as attackers, as already said.
So what's written in Kirigiri's book then? Probably the mastermind's true identity.

To conclude, I now reward this 10th episode of Zetsubou-hen as my favourite of the entire Danganronpa 3 show, Mirai-hen included.
Sep 16, 2016 2:49 AM

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*le me rewatching episode 1 mirai-hen and i saw when juuzo said "We kill them all, we kill anyone helping them, and we're done, right?" then chisa starting to act suspiciously '-' argh!! Was she still under the brainwashing effect?

Did Izuru (based on ep 1) counted as ultimate despair? Will he become ultimate despair too? Will junko hairbrainwash izuru?

Many people said the story were poorly written and Chiaki's death is unbearable to watch. But at least Chiaki died as a real gamer (besides teruteru became a volcano deep fried shrimp and ohwada as butter.) The atmosphere of this episode was incredibly fitted as well in despair theme '-')b
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Sep 16, 2016 3:12 AM

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I still can't move on from this since earlier I watched it! Chiaakiiiii nooooo!
Sep 16, 2016 3:16 AM

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HAAAAAA GAY!
Poor Chiaki :(

Sep 16, 2016 3:35 AM

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What an episode! Now the words of the Director & the actions of Munakata in the Future arc make sense. Not to mention we saw how the games in season 1 started


Sep 16, 2016 4:06 AM
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Aww, what? I wanted to see Juzo fight those students and ultimately see him getting the shit beat out of him since I hate him so much. lol

So Juzo actually is homosexual and is in love with Munakata. I didn't expect that, to be honest. Whatever. Big whoop. But you're going to apparently betray Munakata just because you got laughed at by a bunch of kids who is brainwashed by Junko and just so Munakata won't know your secret? For all we know, he and maybe even Chisa too had already had that feeling, but either way, you're going to probably put Munakata's life in danger for that? I don't like Munakata either, but god, you're the dumbest person ever.

Skipping idiotic professional boxer who got his ass handed to him and laughed at by a bunch of forcibly mind-controlled children, seeing Chisa ultimately and successfully brainwashed already hurt enough, but dear Chiaki went through so much and ultimately died, while the other students have to watch while being brainwashed and Izuru is left standing there crying at her words and demise. So very sad. That actually hurt a bit. Damn it, Kodaka. Damn you so much. *Waves fist in the air* I figured Chiaki wouldn't surivive, but god... that was unmerciful. Junko shows how brutal she definitely is (along with Mukuro, I suppose).

Overall, liked the episode very much, despite how sad it was. First Kirigiri, now Chiaki. So sad. :(
Sep 16, 2016 4:27 AM
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Well, I believed Junko will come up with some brilliant plan to turn everyone into Despairs, not just brainwash them with Nanami death game. But still, it was strong.

Chances are low, but I hope Hinata could save her somehow. Seems possible to the Ultimate Everyone he is.
Sep 16, 2016 4:28 AM

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I...just...fuck...
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Sep 16, 2016 4:31 AM

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I have never really cared for Nanami but damn that was hard to watch
Sep 16, 2016 4:31 AM

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For more evidence that Junko is incapable of making people fall into the truest state of despair by just pure manipulation, look at the Warriors of Hope...

Yes my dear bear @MonoReaper, there was people in history that were capable of making people do shit, but like I already explained to you, they believed what they were doing was for the better and that it would bring the ideal world that they believed in...And thats exactly what Junko did to the Warriors of Hope...except for Monaka, all of them believed that the shit they were doing would make a better world for children, Junko made them believe that this was the way, and Monaka reinforced the Idea...But they were not in full despair, they were not doing it for evil's sake, and all it took for them to realize their mistake was a couple of truth slaps...
Now, maybe Junko could have deceived the 77th class into doing shit, but would she be satisfied with just a bunch of deceived people that can easily be dealt with with some truth slaps? Of course not...If it was like that, putting them into the NWP would not even be necessary, just some terapy sessions would be enouth...
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Sep 16, 2016 4:40 AM

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Seeing how he has a massive boner for hope, Komaeda must be having the worst dilemma ever. I mean, that much was obvious after we originally found out he was despaire'd, but man, he had it hard.
Sep 16, 2016 4:44 AM

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First of all...Damn I knew it..Even though I knew it from the beggining that she was dead for sure I had just a lil' bit of a hope that she may be alive.Both of the waifus are officially dead now.Thanks Kodaka.

Honestly I am satisfied with this conclusion.I think just manipulation is not enough to turn someone into an entire different person.Remnants of despair are pure evil they did horrible things there's no way they could become the way they were with only manipulation

Chiaki especially was hope of the 77th class kill her in a painful way and combine with the brainwash techniques this actually makes more sense to me but I've always thought Chisa would be the one to kill Chiaki so it would be insanely f'd up and despair inducing.Heck you wouldn't have even needed to use the brainwash tecnique.

And basically Juzo confirmed to be homosexual and the fujoshit is 'coming' for sure.
Sep 16, 2016 4:48 AM
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I watched that last scene to many times... my heart is crushed ;_; Seeing Chiaki die like that... i think i even cried more with this dead compared to the DR2 one...
jesus... have nothing more to say other than im dead inside...
Sep 16, 2016 4:55 AM

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FINALLY a canonically (at least implied) homosexual character! And it's my favorite dr3 chara Sakakura yes pls bb ;3;
also bisexual Teruteru??? I approve???//?

also Chiaki is overrated. I personally couldn't care less to see her die.

Sep 16, 2016 5:10 AM

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Wrath said:
also Chiaki is overrated. I personally couldn't care less to see her die.


She was one of our main hopes besides Kirigiri. How cruel. :'(
Sep 16, 2016 5:12 AM
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It seems that no one understood that Junko was broadcasting Nanami's torture along with Mitarai's brainwashing techniques. Everyone is complaining about that but what were you expecting?
Sep 16, 2016 5:16 AM

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AlliedWishes said:
Wrath said:
also Chiaki is overrated. I personally couldn't care less to see her die.


She was one of our main hopes besides Kirigiri. How cruel. :'(
She bored the hell out of me ;-; Don't hate her but she's super overhyped for my tastes.

Sep 16, 2016 5:29 AM
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Sakakura o3o Wew, thats kinda baralove, and i like bara soyay.


I agree with some ppl here, chiaki wasnt my fav char but she was always such a good heart person and kind, seeing her like that was damn hard :(
Sep 16, 2016 5:37 AM

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Those who don't like Chiaki are as trash as Komaeda...
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Sep 16, 2016 5:42 AM

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Amazing episode, just gotta love the way Junko eradicates a characters personality and gets the juicy info for blackmail.

Sep 16, 2016 5:55 AM

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Ahahaha. I love it.

you're a sick bastard i tell you what

I am not ashamed. It was despairingly entertaining, along with this episode, especially Chiaki's heart-wrenching execution and Izuru's tears.
Sep 16, 2016 6:06 AM

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Sep 16, 2016 6:15 AM

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Wrath said:
AlliedWishes said:


She was one of our main hopes besides Kirigiri. How cruel. :'(
She bored the hell out of me ;-; Don't hate her but she's super overhyped for my tastes.

Impossible. She's the Ultimate Gamer. She's full of fun. Curse your soul. T-T Do not let the despair influence you to not care.
Sep 16, 2016 6:17 AM

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AlliedWishes said:
Wrath said:
She bored the hell out of me ;-; Don't hate her but she's super overhyped for my tastes.

Impossible. She's the Ultimate Gamer. She's full of fun. Curse your soul. T-T Do not let the despair influence you to not care.
I feel like most people only like her bc she's a cute female gamer lmao

Sep 16, 2016 6:21 AM

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LogicalInjustice said:
My sadist fanboy-ism went crazy, but to be honest, I was not expecting Nanami to stay as alive as I thought. Also, for regarding the abilities this episode, I wasn't impressed in the slightest. Luck guy had no luck whatsoever, Nanami's gaming skills were mediocre, and all the other skills just happened to be for gags or comic relief. I'm still hyped it all ended up in despair atm, but extremely disappointed in how useless the abilities were this episode, except Junko's analyzing skills.


You do recall that the overall theme of Danganronpa is that people depend to much on their abilities, right?. Also remember that Komaeda´s luck works on a good luck/bad luck clock taken to the extreme , a lot of things have been going well for him for a while so karma hit him hard with this. Nanami should have seen the obvious GOAL bait but then again she was hurt and stabbed left and right so anybody in that situation wouldnt be thinking clearly, that i can forgive.
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Wrath said:
FINALLY a canonically (at least implied) homosexual character! And it's my favorite dr3 chara Sakakura yes pls bb ;3;
also bisexual Teruteru??? I approve???//?

also Chiaki is overrated. I personally couldn't care less to see her die.


Ummm did you forget about Komaeda? That is pretty canon since DR2
Sep 16, 2016 6:24 AM

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Gonzak said:
Wrath said:
FINALLY a canonically (at least implied) homosexual character! And it's my favorite dr3 chara Sakakura yes pls bb ;3;
also bisexual Teruteru??? I approve???//?

also Chiaki is overrated. I personally couldn't care less to see her die.


Ummm did you forget about Komaeda?
Ummm did you forget his homosexuality is only teased?

Sep 16, 2016 6:29 AM

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Wrath said:
Gonzak said:


Ummm did you forget about Komaeda?
Ummm did you forget his homosexuality is only teased?


It is accepted by everyone (including Kodaka) so its canon, now if you meant that you wanted a character that was clearly stated in-story to be homosexual then that would be Juzo.
Sep 16, 2016 6:31 AM

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Ummm did you forget his homosexuality is only teased?


It is accepted by everyone (including Kodaka) so its canon, now if you meant that you wanted a character that was clearly stated in-story to be homosexual then that would be Juzo.
yo i'm laughing so hard over here wtf, just bc it's accepted by the fandom doesn't make it canon. it's not stated at all in the story that he's gay, nagihina is just teased in the original japanese version bc of a misunderstanding.

EDIT: didn't see the Kodaka bit at first. I googled it and can't find anything, link?
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Sep 16, 2016 6:38 AM

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Wrath said:
AlliedWishes said:

Impossible. She's the Ultimate Gamer. She's full of fun. Curse your soul. T-T Do not let the despair influence you to not care.
I feel like most people only like her bc she's a cute female gamer lmao

Nononono. She's much more than that. She's sweet and nice and smart and, uh... (o.o;)

Well damn it. I'm not even good at faking it. Tbh I didn't really like her myself (though I don't dislike her at all. I'm indifferent towards her). I was just messing with you, though the execution was still painful, and seeing Izuru cry... ugh.This is why I tell myself not to get attached to anyone in Danganronpa. I even felt rather empty when Junko died and she's a total bitch. lol
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Wrath said:
Gonzak said:


It is accepted by everyone (including Kodaka) so its canon, now if you meant that you wanted a character that was clearly stated in-story to be homosexual then that would be Juzo.
yo i'm laughing so hard over here wtf, just bc it's accepted by the fandom doesn't make it canon. it's not stated at all in the story that he's gay, nagihina is just teased in the original japanese version bc of a misunderstanding.


Komaeda is canonically Hope sexual...
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AlliedWishes said:
Wrath said:
I feel like most people only like her bc she's a cute female gamer lmao

Nononono. She's much more than that. She's sweet and nice and smart and, uh... (o.o;)

Well damn it. I'm not even good at faking it. Tbh I didn't really like her myself (though I don't dislike her at all. I'm indifferent towards her). I was just messing with you, though the execution was still painful, and seeing Izuru cry... ugh.This is why I tell myself not to get attached to anyone in Danganronpa. I even felt rather empty when Junko died and she's a total bitch. lol
XD me too, I don't really hate her I just don't gaf about her. For some reason I enjoyed her execution, it's been a while since we've had a scene this gory. Plus I got to see my dr2 honey's falling into despair bc of her c;

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Wrath said:
yo i'm laughing so hard over here wtf, just bc it's accepted by the fandom doesn't make it canon. it's not stated at all in the story that he's gay, nagihina is just teased in the original japanese version bc of a misunderstanding.


Komaeda is canonically Hope sexual...
exactly tbh.

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Wrath said:
yo i'm laughing so hard over here wtf, just bc it's accepted by the fandom doesn't make it canon. it's not stated at all in the story that he's gay, nagihina is just teased in the original japanese version bc of a misunderstanding.


Komaeda is canonically Hope sexual...


Yeah my bad i forgot that
Sep 16, 2016 6:44 AM

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Why?!!

This episode just turned me into a big baby-man child. I can't function. I want to just fucking cry and go to bed. My heart couldn't take it. I am a blubbering mess and I could use some help.
Sep 16, 2016 6:48 AM

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Wrath said:
AlliedWishes said:

Nononono. She's much more than that. She's sweet and nice and smart and, uh... (o.o;)

Well damn it. I'm not even good at faking it. Tbh I didn't really like her myself (though I don't dislike her at all. I'm indifferent towards her). I was just messing with you, though the execution was still painful, and seeing Izuru cry... ugh.This is why I tell myself not to get attached to anyone in Danganronpa. I even felt rather empty when Junko died and she's a total bitch. lol
XD me too, I don't really hate her I just don't gaf about her. For some reason I enjoyed her execution, it's been a while since we've had a scene this gory. Plus I got to see my dr2 honey's falling into despair bc of her c;


That's because while it was sad to many of us, it was all still oh, so entertaining. We're awful people. lol Despair Side is bringing out the sadism in us.
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Please remove this anime from mal's database, it clearly is not real.

None of this exists.
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