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Barrian14 said: I only read one line and the answer is simple: the nerve gear is what killed people not SAO. And they did produce the Amusphere which is 100% safe.Explain why they are still developing games based on the Sao seed? Sao killed a large number of people, why would they develop games based on the seed the KILLED PEOPLE? Why didn't the games industry do the normal procedure of restarting development from scratch when the previous attempt resulted in massacre? |
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| LOL trap Kirito acting like a girl xD I'm enjoying this season so far. Their taking it slow and steady setting up the rising action. The animations are quite good as well. |
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 He's not running straight ahead like the noob before him. He's strafing left to right like a pro, and following his eyes. |
| LOLOL Kirito acting like a girl. He bought a photon sword.. Can't wait to see Sinon's reaction when she find out Kirito's a guy. XD |
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Barrian14 said: *LALALALA I don't hear you over the sound of me blindly hating LALALALA*Botato said: Yes there is, in this episode it was shown. Kirito can tell where the NPC is going to shoot by looking at its eyes. Christ throw some more custard in there! Is basically what you're doing. |
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Splitter said: Barrian14 said: This series is turning out to be even worse than the original.  Worse than the original? Are you serious? Sword Art Online is actually taking its time to explain the MMO world and how it operates, lets us get to know the characters, has not yet given Kirito any powers beyond his current abilities for the sake of "because he's the hero", has only introduced and focused on one girl and pushed his entire harem to the side for the sake of focusing on the STORY which is four episodes in and hasn't skipped around once! Do enlighten me, nay all of us, how any of this is worse than the original? The nurse scene from episode 3 was disturbing and the fact that Kirito has yet again took the asshole route of acting like a girl just to get some help from a girl. And i know that just because of how SAO 1 liked romance: Sinon is going to fall in love with Kirito, probably after she bitch slaps him once or twice and then become a god damn harem member. This story might have turned out well if it hadn't been by the same god damn creators of the original |
SandyBoi said: LOLOL Kirito acting like a girl. He bought a photon sword.. Can't wait to see Sinon's reaction when she find out Kirito's a guy. XD It will probably be as satisfying as when Leafa found out Kirito was her cousin e.g. not even remotely. We all know it's going to end with Sinon being hot for Kirito's pants anyway. |
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Barrian14 said: Botato said: Read through the rest of my plot-holes. It is a stupid idea to keep parts of a killer videogame intact and available for use. Anybody would get rid of the whole thing and start fresh to minimize the rise of mass murder.I only read one line and the answer is simple: the nerve gear is what killed people not SAO. And they did produce the Amusphere which is 100% safe. Except for the part where there was nothing about the video game that was "killer", the Nervegear was that thing that actually did the killing, the game and engine it self was fine. |
Barrian14 said: ffs it's not the game that kills. It's the hardware. THE FREAKING NERVE GEAR. Which was replaced by a 100% perfectly safe Amusphere.Botato said: Read through the rest of my plot-holes. It is a stupid idea to keep parts of a killer videogame intact and available for use. Anybody would get rid of the whole thing and start fresh to minimize the rise of mass murder.I only read one line and the answer is simple: the nerve gear is what killed people not SAO. And they did produce the Amusphere which is 100% safe. |
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Forgetfulness said: Is there a real explanation for Kirito dodging the bullets though? Frankly, a sword can only move as fast as a human can and Kirito was definitely cut several times. In SAO and ALO, I believe the only other weapon we've seen is an bow and arrow, which Kirito also got hit by, albeit it was a humongous volley Bullets, on the other hand, travel about 8.5 times faster than an arrow can (assuming they work like in RL), and I find dismissing this as just "he trained longer" is bullshit. Its not about speed. Its about dodging before the action is taken - Kirito is dodging before the prediction lines appear, because he is accustomed to needing to dodge everything and anything since as shown in SAO, every hit could be your last, especially in latter bosses. The travel speed does not matter if Kirito starts to dodge before the shot is fired. THat's called bullet-timing. He expects the shot to be there and her dodges before it happens. That's what he meant with "anticipating prediction lines". He has been doing that for a whole year in SAO. He has been predicting his opponent's behavior in fights for his LIFE. For a whole year. Just like the "put sword behind you" motion it has become a reflex. While others depend on game-y mechanics, he has been forced to treat it as real as real life in SAO. ynat1 said: K im done, im not even gonna bother continuing this shit pile. I'm fine with Kirito's new getup but when he tries to play the part by tricking Sinon for no real reason, other then the idea that she'd think he was hitting on her is just plain stupid. Then he becomes his Gary Stu self and becomes the first one to beat an "impossible" game while everyone one gapes at the awesome almighty Kirito. And I can already tell Sinon is going to end up falling in love with him somehow. Seriously im so fucking done with this Nobody beat it in THIS game. Every player who wanted to survive had to learn to beat it in SAO, because getting hit meant DEATH. Barrian14 said: Botato said: Except that wasn't a plothole. And you're just being a typical lazy hater ignoring actual explanations that make sense to hate on the show instead of making good and thoughtful criticisms. They are tiptoeing around the plot-holes and filling them with custard. Technically speaking they are filled but only so that the fans can continue their blind videogame power fantasy. The explanations are there but are rather flimsy. Normally flimsy plothole filling wouldn't annoy me so much but the sheer quantity is immense. Not to mention how well regarded the series is and how large the fanbase is. Not seeing any plotholes. If this was the first season - sure. But we actually saw Kirito play SAO and we know SAO's rules. Not a plothole. |
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Barrian14 said: You are the one blindly loving the series. You would lie to yourself more to protect a loved one than to condemn an enemy. Well, we provide you with explanations and you turn each one down and move onto something else... |
Forgetfulness said: Caleb8980 said: So are you saying that Kirito reads the last position and dodges a general area that the volley will hit and he doesn't read every bullet individually?As Arkane said, you can basically see what we meant in his gif. ;-) The moment the "cowboy" fixes his eyes on Kirito, he dodges left or right to throw his aim off. Although this season is way better in actually spelling out what is happening, many parts of it are still rather "shown then told" ;-) Predicts. Anticipates. Its no different than predicting monsters in SAO. And he has advantage of having learned that through life-threatening fights instead of something to learn at leisure. Blame the previous season for removing the lines that spell it out, but its not rocket-science. |
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Barrian14 said: I provided sound and logical explanations told AND shown in the show. You just dismiss them without any good counter points.Botato said: *LALALALA I don't hear you over the sound of me blindly hating LALALALA* Is basically what you're doing. You are the one blindly loving the series. You would lie to yourself more to protect a loved one than to condemn an enemy. Nah, you're just a blind hater. I'm fine. |
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Barrian14 said: Botato said: ffs it's not the game that kills. It's the hardware. THE FREAKING NERVE GEAR. Which was replaced by a 100% perfectly safe Amusphere. It's like taking the bullets from a gun and giving it to a child. Anyone with more than fluff between their ears would take the whole gun. Nope. Nervegear is the gun. It could have as well been running Tetris instead of SAO seed. ynat1 said: Fai said: Nobody beat it in THIS game. Every player who wanted to survive had to learn to beat it in SAO, because getting hit meant DEATH. I'm sorry, did they have projectiles that could go up to 1100+ fps in a fantasy game? I'm afraid i missed that part. Bullet speed has nothing to do with predicting where the opponent will aim. Kirito is predicting where the shot WILL happen, before the lines appear, before the shot is made, so he can bullet-time the trajectory, in a way compensating for the cheating mechanics the minigame employs by lengthening his dodge time that way - by the time bullet lines appear he is already dodging in the guessed direction - something he learned to do in SAO - to predict and anticipate the actions of opponents. That's what he was doing for a year, non stop. To survive. Barring other SAO players, everyone else would learn dodging or any game mechanics on leisure. For Kirito and the rest of SAO, that was crucial to survive, since as shown in previous season latter monsters could one-shot you. |
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LastChapter said: I fished for that prediction line quote. Hopefully that will help calm the confusion: |
Barrian14 said: Botato said: ffs it's not the game that kills. It's the hardware. THE FREAKING NERVE GEAR. Which was replaced by a 100% perfectly safe Amusphere. It's like taking the bullets from a gun and giving it to a child. Anyone with more than fluff between their ears would take the whole gun. Please never have children. Also clean your ears, there's not supposed to be fluff there, gross. |
Barrian14 said: A thing being able to kill people doesn't mean they should halt the development along those lines completely. The Hindenburg explosion of 1939 did halt the manufacture of zeppelins, but still the concept didn't die completely, and Zeppelin NTs were still in use right now.Botato said: Read through the rest of my plot-holes. It is a stupid idea to keep parts of a killer videogame intact and available for use. Anybody would get rid of the whole thing and start fresh to minimize the rise of mass murder.I only read one line and the answer is simple: the nerve gear is what killed people not SAO. And they did produce the Amusphere which is 100% safe. |
| What i wanna know is why a sword---err lightsaber is so expensive yet it's a gun game and no one uses them. Maybe later on we find out its super powerful/effective? Wait so Kirito's character IS male, but looks female? TRAP? |
Inugirlz said: What i wanna know is why a sword---err lightsaber is so expensive yet it's a gun game and no one uses them. Maybe later on we find out its super powerful/effective? Wait so Kirito's character IS male, but looks female? TRAP? It's expensive because it's a lethal joke weapon. If you can use it correctly it's very powerful, but using it correctly is EXTREMELY difficult to do. |
ynat1 said: Splitter said: Worse than the original? Are you serious? Sword Art Online is actually taking its time to explain the MMO world and how it operates, lets us get to know the characters, has not yet given Kirito any powers beyond his current abilities for the sake of "because he's the hero", has only introduced and focused on one girl and pushed his entire harem to the side for the sake of focusing on the STORY which is four episodes in and hasn't skipped around once! Do enlighten me, nay all of us, how any of this is worse than the original? The nurse scene from episode 3 was disturbing and the fact that Kirito has yet again took the asshole route of acting like a girl just to get some help from a girl. And i know that just because of how SAO 1 liked romance: Sinon is going to fall in love with Kirito, probably after she bitch slaps him once or twice and then become a god damn harem member. This story might have turned out well if it hadn't been by the same god damn creators of the original You realize that most of this is nitpicking, right? I still don't understand why everyone is up in arms over Kirito being sexually harassed by the nurse. I don't applaud sexual harassment, but for all this series has done with its female characters in terms of sexual harassment, it's about time it circles back to Kirito. Asuna nearly got raped and molested by tentacles, Silica got molested by tentacles twice, Kirito had a pass made on him by his nurse. OH THE FREAKIN' HUMANITY. For all the female characters in this series that want to ride the chosen one's baloney pony (read: ALL of them), to be shocked that another female character more assertively lets it be known she finds Kirito hot is just trying way too hard. I'll admit I find it gripe-worthy that Kirito is pretending to be a girl, but BoB is in a matter of days. He doesn't have much time to acclimate himself to GGO. He needs all the help he can get and if using his trappishness gets him the help he needs, all the better for it. Like I said, of course its going to end with Sinon liking Kirito because that's how every supporting female character has behaved up until now. I would be shocked if it didn't turn out that way, but how is this a flaw of what is currently happening? If you look at the season to where it currently is, that point of conjecture is purely hypothetical right now, even if there is incredibly strong evidence from Season 1 that things will end up that way. Given the multitudes of anime... nay, multitudes of media that use the old "the hero lied at the beginning to get in with the romantic lead" trope, how is SAO worse for it? At least Kirito lied for altruistic reasons rather than ulterior motives >_> |
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Inugirlz said: What i wanna know is why a sword---err lightsaber is so expensive yet it's a gun game and no one uses them. Maybe later on we find out its super powerful/effective? Wait so Kirito's character IS male, but looks female? TRAP? Because its pretty much a joke item - most of mmo games have uber expensive cosmetic items - tiger hats, rainbow unicorns - some even have cross-promotion deals with items or outfits from other frachises. Its costly solely for bragging rights. Its like some of the joke-weapons in oldschool JRPGS - that could do very overpowered damage, but the mechanics of actually using it made it useless. The correct term is androgynous. |
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Barrian14 said: neonie said: In any game if a gun or weapon wasn't being used, they would make it either easier to use or easier to obtain. The sword is merely there as a plot device...It's expensive because it's a lethal joke weapon. If you can use it correctly it's very powerful, but using it correctly is EXTREMELY difficult to do. Not really. That's the logic that drives current gen casualized bullshit of World of Warcraft. Games that stick to their design philosophy do not sacrifice difficulty for casual satisfaction. |
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Forgetfulness said: Regardless of how this goes in the LN, none of that was explained in the actual anime. It was only slightly hinted at, and that only really made sense if you had an idea of what he was doing in the first place While I personally believe the anime stands well on it's on, I do feel you get more out of it if you treat it as a companion to the LN. It's kind of a "all there in the manual" sort of deal. |
Splitter said: ynat1 said: The nurse scene from episode 3 was disturbing and the fact that Kirito has yet again took the asshole route of acting like a girl just to get some help from a girl. And i know that just because of how SAO 1 liked romance: Sinon is going to fall in love with Kirito, probably after she bitch slaps him once or twice and then become a god damn harem member. This story might have turned out well if it hadn't been by the same god damn creators of the original You realize that most of this is nitpicking, right? I still don't understand why everyone is up in arms over Kirito being sexually harassed by the nurse. I don't applaud sexual harassment, but for all this series has done with its female characters in terms of sexual harassment, it's about time it circles back to Kirito. Asuna nearly got raped and molested by tentacles, Silica got molested by tentacles twice, Kirito had a pass made on him by his nurse. OH THE FREAKIN' HUMANITY. For all the female characters in this series that want to ride the chosen one's baloney pony (read: ALL of them), to be shocked that another female character more assertively lets it be known she finds Kirito hot is just trying way too hard. I'll admit I find it gripe-worthy that Kirito is pretending to be a girl, but BoB is in a matter of days. He doesn't have much time to acclimate himself to GGO. He needs all the help he can get and if using his trappishness gets him the help he needs, all the better for it. Like I said, of course its going to end with Sinon liking Kirito because that's how every supporting female character has behaved up until now. I would be shocked if it didn't turn out that way, but how is this a flaw of what is currently happening? If you look at the season to where it currently is, that point of conjecture is purely hypothetical right now, even if there is incredibly strong evidence from Season 1 that things will end up that way. Given the multitudes of anime... nay, multitudes of media that use the old "the hero lied at the beginning to get in with the romantic lead" trope, how is SAO worse for it? At least Kirito lied for altruistic reasons rather than ulterior motives >_> |
Splitter said: ynat1 said: The nurse scene from episode 3 was disturbing and the fact that Kirito has yet again took the asshole route of acting like a girl just to get some help from a girl. And i know that just because of how SAO 1 liked romance: Sinon is going to fall in love with Kirito, probably after she bitch slaps him once or twice and then become a god damn harem member. This story might have turned out well if it hadn't been by the same god damn creators of the original You realize that most of this is nitpicking, right? I still don't understand why everyone is up in arms over Kirito being sexually harassed by the nurse. I don't applaud sexual harassment, but for all this series has done with its female characters in terms of sexual harassment, it's about time it circles back to Kirito. Asuna nearly got raped and molested by tentacles, Silica got molested by tentacles twice, Kirito had a pass made on him by his nurse. OH THE FREAKIN' HUMANITY. For all the female characters in this series that want to ride the chosen one's baloney pony (read: ALL of them), to be shocked that another female character more assertively lets it be known she finds Kirito hot is just trying way too hard. I'll admit I find it gripe-worthy that Kirito is pretending to be a girl, but BoB is in a matter of days. He doesn't have much time to acclimate himself to GGO. He needs all the help he can get and if using his trappishness gets him the help he needs, all the better for it. Like I said, of course its going to end with Sinon liking Kirito because that's how every supporting female character has behaved up until now. I would be shocked if it didn't turn out that way, but how is this a flaw of what is currently happening? If you look at the season to where it currently is, that point of conjecture is purely hypothetical right now, even if there is incredibly strong evidence from Season 1 that things will end up that way. Given the multitudes of anime... nay, multitudes of media that use the old "the hero lied at the beginning to get in with the romantic lead" trope, how is SAO worse for it? At least Kirito lied for altruistic reasons rather than ulterior motives >_> I'm just saying that based upon what I've seen so far SAO 2 is not going to turn out any better then its predecessor. Episode 3 gave me quite a bit of hope and this episode shat all over it. |
Barrian14 said: neonie said: In any game if a gun or weapon wasn't being used, they would make it either easier to use or easier to obtain. The sword is merely there as a plot device...It's expensive because it's a lethal joke weapon. If you can use it correctly it's very powerful, but using it correctly is EXTREMELY difficult to do. Of course it's a plot device. They just showed Kirito can't handle a gun for crap and he's the main character. He has to have an out that makes sense. Unlike dual wielding from S1 though, this is not just some special weapon or skill that magically showed up in his inventory. It can be purchased by anyone, but isn't because most people would rather use the guns and don't have the skill set suitable for a sword. It's to the advantage of the series that Kirito is entering a game where the opponents and skill sets differ. He will be taking on opponents with dramatically differing strategies than his own and it will make things more exciting... ... unless they show him breeze through BoB, but again, we anime-only watchers wouldn't know if that's the case or not yet. |
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LastChapter said: neonie said: If people are seriously that lazy or not care enough to not read the novels, Reki Kawahara, the author, actually makes weekly episode commentaries explaining everything. It's literally a one minute read explaining what happens each episode.While I personally believe the anime stands well on it's on, I do feel you get more out of it if you treat it as a companion to the LN. It's kind of a "all there in the manual" sort of deal. Didn't know about that. Are they translated anywhere (is it a crunchyroll thing?) |
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