| I saw this coming but was never expecting it to be that fast to be top ranked. =v= |
Riotnoob said: you should actually watch more of the show before saying the whole thing is over rated, at 113 your missing out on a shit ton and you havent even seen what made alot of people rate this show 10'sSeriously, one of the few things that I dislike about MAL. One episode, and of course, every Gintama fanboy is rushing to give it a 10. I get that having your favourite anime in the rating's top spot might be something to be proud of, but realy...? Edit: To the point where everyone's considering Enchou to be a continuation of the main series... Since when was an additional season considered not to be a separate entry on MAL? Anyways, this may sound blasphemous on a Gintama board, but the show really is overrated. Not to the extent as say, Sword Art Online is (as Gintama does have its redeeming features) but it's definitely not the masterpiece that everyone's praising it to high heavens for. The comedy's subjective and tends to be hit or miss. Episodes can be a riot or a snooze, depending on whether the material hits you or not. Sure the comedy's delivery has developed a certain style, but whether a viewer finds it funny or not is always up for debate. The drama on the other hand remains average. There simply isn't enough time within its episode structure (hell, even the arcs that stretch to half a dozen episodes) to flesh out the adequate amount of development, and most of the drama in Gintama relies on a "tell" rather than "show" approach. Where Gintama truly succeeds, however, is in its imaginative setting and fairly memorable characters. I understand that it's the backbone for the show, but imo, it's not enough to hold up the fact that it's the only thing that's consistently solid. I'm only halfway through the 253 episode mark, but I think I get the gist of Gintama to have a decently substantiated opinion of it. Its fanbase is relatively small, but extremely dedicated. However, you can't overlook all of Gintama's faults to claim that it deserves the number one spot in MAL when there are much, much more well-crafted shows. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Riotnoob said: Seriously, one of the few things that I dislike about MAL. One episode, and of course, every Gintama fanboy is rushing to give it a 10. I get that having your favourite anime in the rating's top spot might be something to be proud of, but realy...? Edit: To the point where everyone's considering Enchou to be a continuation of the main series... Since when was an additional season considered not to be a separate entry on MAL? Anyways, this may sound blasphemous on a Gintama board, but the show really is overrated. Not to the extent as say, Sword Art Online is (as Gintama does have its redeeming features) but it's definitely not the masterpiece that everyone's praising it to high heavens for. The comedy's subjective and tends to be hit or miss. Episodes can be a riot or a snooze, depending on whether the material hits you or not. Sure the comedy's delivery has developed a certain style, but whether a viewer finds it funny or not is always up for debate. The drama on the other hand remains average. There simply isn't enough time within its episode structure (hell, even the arcs that stretch to half a dozen episodes) to flesh out the adequate amount of development, and most of the drama in Gintama relies on a "tell" rather than "show" approach. Where Gintama truly succeeds, however, is in its imaginative setting and fairly memorable characters. I understand that it's the backbone for the show, but imo, it's not enough to hold up the fact that it's the only thing that's consistently solid. I'm only halfway through the 253 episode mark, but I think I get the gist of Gintama to have a decently substantiated opinion of it. Its fanbase is relatively small, but extremely dedicated. However, you can't overlook all of Gintama's faults to claim that it deserves the number one spot in MAL when there are much, much more well-crafted shows. I'm up to date on Gintama and I agree with most of what you're saying. However, I think the drama is better than how you've described it. Anyway, there's no question that it's very good, but I agree that to say it's a "masterpiece" is quite a stretch (to say the least) and it being no' 1 is a bit of a travesty in my opinion. I know people might say that rankings on this site don't really matter, but I think they do matter in a way. |
| People for godsake get on with your lives. Is it that big of a deal if it's first, just pretend there is no such thing as MAL ranking, only thing that exists is your ranking. simple isn't it? :) |
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| Yeah that's great but rating after just one episode is ridiculous lol. |
| Even though I love Gintama, One Piece will take top spot when it ends ;D |
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| While i don't think it should be no1 necessarily (that honor belongs to Fullmetal Alchemist) i do believe that Gintama is the funniest anime of all time and should be rated highly! More people need to start watching as they do with overrated, over exposed anime like Naruto or One Piece. Though yes, rating the newest season a 10 after just ONE episode is a little extreme. I personally dont rate a show until i'm at least 10-20 episodes into it. @Num1dad_Asura Where's your animated sig from?? Looks bad ass! |
It's from a game called Tales of Xillia 2. |
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Num1dad_Asura said: It's from a game called Tales of Xillia 2. Ohhhhhhh, i thought it was from an anime. Though i might check it out anyway! |
RingoPie said: Even though I love Gintama, One Piece will take top spot when it ends ;D Lol no. It's 8.64 with already 84171 Members scored of the 124051 people watching it. |
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| I´m a big fan of Gintama... its true that the very first episodes are a bit hard to follow because theres too much variety introduced and its not ammm... linear, but when you start liking the huge cast/ characters you wont stop watching. I don't know if Gintama deserves first place, but being first is the only thing that keeps me having a lil fate on MAL ranking. ITs true that there are many many good shows with 6.5-7 but thats your own fault trying to down rate the series because you think they don't deserve that place, and are above your favorite show... if you can, everyone can. Gintama is not only the past... its still airing, not like others shows that had been finished for long time, so its NORMAL for a series like Gintama being first. When Gintama ends, there will be other new to take the place. Meanwhile, Gintama is KING ! Its not the first episode, you wont like it if you dont know what Gintama have been doing in those 250+ episodes, YOU DONT KNOW BECAUSE YOU DIDNT WATCH, because you don't know whos gintoki, kagura, shinpachi, the whole Shinsengumi crew, ELisabeth, Zura Janai(u don't even get this joke right?), Otome, even the Sadaharu (dog),you don't know how Gintama works. When the show trolls at yourface you wont like it, though every fan will. |
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| It would have been much higher if FMA and Steins gate fans didn't rate it 1/10.... |
edwd2 said: Sayan12 said: It would have been much higher if FMA and Steins gate fans didn't rate it 1/10.... can't be avoided, gintama has the highest percentage of 1s on the top anime page (it used to be LoGH) now the scores of all my favorites animes are dropping, not that i care but LoGH 9.12->9.11 Gintama' 9.25->9.24 Gintama 9.10->9.09 Mushishi 8.85->8.84 Aria the Origination 8.82->8.81 Usagi Drop 8.70->8.68 5cm/s 8.40->8.38 And if you looks at the animes with rising scores FMAB 9.20->9.21 Steins;Gate 9.16->9.17 CLANNAD AS 9.14->9.15 CG R2 8.98->8.99 Spirited Away 8.85->8.86 There's gotta something wrong with that lol. Die hard fans can be real assholes :P I can't even rate an anime a 5! And yet them trolls spam my favorite animes with 1s... come on. I've never seen an anime that sucked so much that it deserves a 1. EVER They deserve to be smashed in the head with Gintama's 60 volumes, LoGH's OVA and game CDs, Mushishi's 10 volumes, etc |
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Bigbuffoon said: edwd2 said: Sayan12 said: It would have been much higher if FMA and Steins gate fans didn't rate it 1/10.... can't be avoided, gintama has the highest percentage of 1s on the top anime page (it used to be LoGH) now the scores of all my favorites animes are dropping, not that i care but LoGH 9.12->9.11 Gintama' 9.25->9.24 Gintama 9.10->9.09 Mushishi 8.85->8.84 Aria the Origination 8.82->8.81 Usagi Drop 8.70->8.68 5cm/s 8.40->8.38 And if you looks at the animes with rising scores FMAB 9.20->9.21 Steins;Gate 9.16->9.17 CLANNAD AS 9.14->9.15 CG R2 8.98->8.99 Spirited Away 8.85->8.86 There's gotta something wrong with that lol. Die hard fans can be real assholes :P I can't even rate an anime a 5! And yet them trolls spam my favorite animes with 1s... come on. I've never seen an anime that sucked so much that it deserves a 1. EVER They deserve to be smashed in the head with Gintama's 60 volumes, LoGH's OVA and game CDs, Mushishi's 10 volumes, etc They don't like my favorite animu, so they must be trolls! |
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| Well if you guys noticed 24 people have rated it 1. As there aren't any 2, 3 or 4 ratings, these 24 people can only be known as trolls as I find it hard to believe that the first episode of Kintama was the worst thing they've ever seen -_- |
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They don't like my favorite animu, so they must be trolls! When speaking about the 1s given for a show and when those 1s disproportionally higher than other scores then there are troll accounts at play. |
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edwd2 said: One Piece will end, Oda already knows the ending. I've heard it won't be for another 10 or 7 years though.RingoPie said: Even though I love Gintama, One Piece will take top spot when it ends ;D Lol of course, the score will jump to something like 9.7 removing the >1/5 votes. but that is if One Piece does end. |
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| So many haters. But then, there's even more fanboys/girls to lift the score up so I won't worry about the score. I rated it 10 in the first episode, because it's a direct continuation to Gintama'. Besides, I admit that my scoring is biased. I will automatically rate anything related to "Gintama series" with a 10. That's just how much I like this series. |
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| Lol at anyone suggesting rating it a 10 isn't "trolling" just as much as rating it a 1. |
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| Code Gayass went up? Noooooooooo pls I'd rather have Gintama....pls no CG pls pls pls :( |
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Post-Moe said: Lol at anyone suggesting rating it a 10 isn't "trolling" just as much as rating it a 1. It would be trolling if a bunch of 2/4chaners come in and 10 up Mars of Destruction but when the general idea that a show is more enjoyable than bad it makes sense to see more people who like it and rate it highly than people who rate it low. |
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Bigbuffoon said: . I've never seen an anime that sucked so much that it deserves a 1. EVER That's because you didn't watch Mars of Destruction |
| This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. |
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| Lol ,this war still rages on. What's next?? KINTAMA!! |
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iLostReason said: Agreed,This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. |
Karpman said: This is sad. People who are bitching about this being no.1 are wrong, as opinions are included in ratings, so lots of bias will happen and MAL rankings should never be taken seriously. Then again the people crying over haters giving it low scores are also unneeded. This happens at every popular show. NOT every popular show |
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iLostReason said: This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. Why are you taking this so seriously? Or rather, does it really matter so much? |
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FastWheels said: iLostReason said: This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. Why are you taking this so seriously? Or rather, does it really matter so much? Actually you're right, it doesnt matter much.As i said ''its just an ranking'', but im kind of person that is easily getting pissed off when sees people doing unfair and stupid things for their benefit (dropping popular anime rate, so their fav goes up).Cant we all just be fair and dont rate anime at all if we didnt see it? or i need to make fake accs to rate anime that i hate 1/10 too?.All i wanted to say is that it's really stupid ;) |
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x5exotic said: Karpman said: This is sad. People who are bitching about this being no.1 are wrong, as opinions are included in ratings, so lots of bias will happen and MAL rankings should never be taken seriously. Then again the people crying over haters giving it low scores are also unneeded. This happens at every popular show. NOT every popular show If it doesn't happen to it, then it isn't popular. |
iLostReason said: FastWheels said: iLostReason said: This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. Why are you taking this so seriously? Or rather, does it really matter so much? Actually you're right, it doesnt matter much.As i said ''its just an ranking'', but im kind of person that is easily getting pissed off when sees people doing unfair and stupid things for their benefit (dropping popular anime rate, so their fav goes up).Cant we all just be fair and dont rate anime at all if we didnt see it? or i need to make fake accs to rate anime that i hate 1/10 too?.All i wanted to say is that it's really stupid ;) So giving a show a rating of 10 with only one episode out isn't unfair or working to their benefit like making their favorite show number one? |
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Paul said: x5exotic said: Karpman said: This is sad. People who are bitching about this being no.1 are wrong, as opinions are included in ratings, so lots of bias will happen and MAL rankings should never be taken seriously. Then again the people crying over haters giving it low scores are also unneeded. This happens at every popular show. NOT every popular show If it doesn't happen to it, then it isn't popular. Not quite...I mean sure you have at least 1 or 2, but some popular anime in the top 40, 20 or even 10 don't get nearly as much accusations of being overrated as others |
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x5exotic said: Paul said: x5exotic said: Karpman said: This is sad. People who are bitching about this being no.1 are wrong, as opinions are included in ratings, so lots of bias will happen and MAL rankings should never be taken seriously. Then again the people crying over haters giving it low scores are also unneeded. This happens at every popular show. NOT every popular show If it doesn't happen to it, then it isn't popular. Not quite...I mean sure you have at least 1 or 2, but some popular anime in the top 40, 20 or even 10 don't get nearly as much accusations of being overrated as others Cause they're not popular to begin wit, in comparison to actual popular or known anime. Being top rated =/= being popular or well-known. When looking at the top ratings, make sure to note the amount of members. Though it isn't the perfect system, you can at least see how "popular" they are based on this site's community. |
Ragix said: iLostReason said: FastWheels said: iLostReason said: This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. Why are you taking this so seriously? Or rather, does it really matter so much? Actually you're right, it doesnt matter much.As i said ''its just an ranking'', but im kind of person that is easily getting pissed off when sees people doing unfair and stupid things for their benefit (dropping popular anime rate, so their fav goes up).Cant we all just be fair and dont rate anime at all if we didnt see it? or i need to make fake accs to rate anime that i hate 1/10 too?.All i wanted to say is that it's really stupid ;) So giving a show a rating of 10 with only one episode out isn't unfair or working to their benefit like making their favorite show number one? I think you should read previous pages, because alot of people already asked about what you did.This is not first episode of some new version of Gintama, this is first episode after hiatus.It's just an continuation, nothing more.I would agree with you if it would be new anime adaptation, for EXAMPLE i would rate Little Busters! 10/10 because its based on my favourite VN, so it has to be 10/10, but its not.Its just an another episode of ordinary Gintama that people or love or hate.Nothing changed, we know what to expect, and we know where we are.I don't think it's very unfair to rate show that i love 10/10. |
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iLostReason said: Ragix said: iLostReason said: FastWheels said: iLostReason said: This is fking unfair.Now Gintama will drop it's rating because of some pathetic kids who create fake accs just to rate it 1/10.I found a guy who rated it 1 even without watching 1st season.9.32 -> 9.25. On one hand its just an ranking, so who cares, but why someone would be so immature to take it so seriously, that they need to drop rate of top anime, just so their fav animu goes higher.Thats pathetic. Why are you taking this so seriously? Or rather, does it really matter so much? Actually you're right, it doesnt matter much.As i said ''its just an ranking'', but im kind of person that is easily getting pissed off when sees people doing unfair and stupid things for their benefit (dropping popular anime rate, so their fav goes up).Cant we all just be fair and dont rate anime at all if we didnt see it? or i need to make fake accs to rate anime that i hate 1/10 too?.All i wanted to say is that it's really stupid ;) So giving a show a rating of 10 with only one episode out isn't unfair or working to their benefit like making their favorite show number one? I think you should read previous pages, because alot of people already asked about what you did.This is not first episode of some new version of Gintama, this is first episode after hiatus.It's just an continuation, nothing more.I would agree with you if it would be new anime adaptation, for EXAMPLE i would rate Little Busters! 10/10 because its based on my favourite VN, so it has to be 10/10, but its not.Its just an another episode of ordinary Gintama that people or love or hate.Nothing changed, we know what to expect, and we know where we are.I don't think it's very unfair to rate show that i love 10/10. The point is that they separated it from the main series so now from the beginning onward the score should be based on what they give you now and not the last season before it went on hiatus. I think the best example I can give is Fate/Zero. Season 1 was scored @ 8.71 while Season 2 was given a 8.88 and Season 2 was just a continuation from Season 1 just like this is we could say. So as we can see based off the ratings people actually enjoyed Season 2 far more then season 1. It may not seem much but that .17 difference is large with the thousands of members that rated it. Although yes it probably will stay the same so I guess that's where everyone already put a score on it for it's always best to not throw a high score on it right away. This has a higher score then Gintama' and Gintama already even though it's not that far in. I think that's already pretty unfair to its prequels considering they were already "completed" with so many episodes. I mean if Bleach comes out with a "Season 2" after they complete the manga I'm not going to be basing the score from the start to end but from where the anime takes place and finishes. Just from a neutral standpoint though. I haven't started watching Gintama yet but I plan on it when I got the free time. With over 250+ episodes going to take me awhile. lol |
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Ragix said: The point is that they separated it from the main series so now from the beginning onward the score should be based on what they give you now and not the last season before it went on hiatus. I think the best example I can give is Fate/Zero. Season 1 was scored @ 8.71 while Season 2 was given a 8.88 and Season 2 was just a continuation from Season 1 just like this is we could say. So as we can see based off the ratings people actually enjoyed Season 2 far more then season 1. It may not seem much but that .17 difference is large with the thousands of members that rated it. Although yes it probably will stay the same so I guess that's where everyone already put a score on it for it's always best to not throw a high score on it right away. This has a higher score then Gintama' and Gintama already even though it's not that far in. I think that's already pretty unfair to its prequels considering they were already "completed" with so many episodes. I mean if Bleach comes out with a "Season 2" after they complete the manga I'm not going to be basing the score from the start to end but from where the anime takes place and finishes. Just from a neutral standpoint though. I haven't started watching Gintama yet but I plan on it when I got the free time. With over 250+ episodes going to take me awhile. lol Of course i wouldnt rate it 10/10 if ''1st episode'' would not deserve it, but AGAIN, that was another episode of Gintama we know, and it's simply...weird to rate it lower for fans who think it was on same level as previous Gintama's.It's kinda hard to explain to people who didnt watch it. I don't know how about F/Z, but i heard 2nd season is much better from 1st, and thats of course reason why is it higher.Gintama in other hand keeps one level, it doesnt change.Thats why fans already rated ''new season'' 10/10.They are just being sure it won't disappoint them.For me, and probably some others even worst arc in Gintama deserved 10/10, and what we've seen in 1st episode dont seem to be a bad ''start''.It was IMO amazing. Goodluck with watching xD. |
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| The way i see it, it's basically a continuation from Gintama' so of course fans should rate Enchousen a 10 if they want to, it's a part of the same series. On the other side of the spectrum, it's just trolling to automatically rate this new series 1 when you dont even watch the show. |
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