Black Clover (TV) Episode 1 Discussion

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Asta is not a bad MC, it is just his VA is bad. The guy is a newbie.

Oct 3, 2017 9:45 PM

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Himawari9 said:

Tuestresfat said:

There is a lot of anime out there and not many of us can watch them all.

If you test drive a car and don't like it the steering, you don't buy it hoping you'll get used to it. If you have a bad first date with someone, you don't continue seeing them in hopes you will eventually get along. If you interview someone and they fail to impress, you don't hire them to humor the possibility that they might have been nervous.

First impressions mean everything, so I don't see why you think it is unreasonable for people to judge this show by its first episode - especially one with so many flaws.

My first impression is that the story seems cliche and poorly written, the main characters are going to become super overpowered for absolutely no reason and then they'll try to explain it by revealing that their parents are actually gods or something. Not spoiling I'm literally just guessing but that's how every immature fantasy anime story line goes. For me, this is distasteful since I don't like it when writers portray their characters as overwhelmingly perfect or just flat out unrealistic.

At this point in the manga, he is not overpower or anything godlike. You are guessing the plot of an anime based on the plot of other anime. It is unreasonable.

Don't read the manga so I'll take your word for it. Although it's obvious that he will become overpowered. Oh yea somehow shows zero magic affinity, receives 5 leaf clover out of no where, then continues with the rest of his life as completely average or mediocre. lol.

I don't think it's unreasonable for me to predict the plot based on other anime because so many of them are the same. This is besides the point though, even if you're right and I'm wrong about the plot--there are still a lot of distasteful things about this first episode and it seems unlikely that future episodes will remedy them.

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Well, I don't see anything wrong with the grimoire leaf symbolism. It's quite interesting. What with the most common 3-leaf clover is what most people have, the stronger people have the 4-leaf which brings good luck and fortune, then the 5-leaf which shouldn't exist, being the demon. It's an interesting concept. I don't see anything "wtf" about it. Can you explain what problems you have with this system?

I can see how that sentence came across as more abrasive than it was intended to be - I'll explain my initial impression of the grimoire and see if that makes sense.
Faith, hope, love are virtues - they tell you something about a person's character, and presumably the grimoire safeguards these virtues.
Then all of a sudden they introduce the fourth leaf 'good luck' (??) which felt completely out of the blue. How lucky you are does not say a thing about your character. (not in the least because luck is so poorly defined).
THEN the fifth leaf happens 'demon' (??????), which is completely outside of either category.

What I mean by effective world-building is constructing a plausible explanation for these inconsistencies. Where did the grimoires come from? Why were they created? How do they choose their people and how do the people influence what grimoire they get? Who decided on the meaning of the leaves and how does the type of grimoire influence whoever wields them?

The problem with the pilot episode is we see ZERO attempt at answering these questions (or anything about the world). I realise it is a first episode, but right now it's just a mish-mash of shounen wish fulfillment without any consideration given to showing us how this world is even functional. This is definitely a deficit in the show's writing if they can't at least imply a convincing alternate reality in the first episode ('Made in Abyss' makes an excellent counterexample).

I see where you're coming from, but I see it differently. I have never seen an anime that has shown it's entire world building back story in the very first episode. Besides, dumping all that information on the audience bores us quickly, so it's not smart to show us everything in the beginning. Better to keep it mysterious and give us space to imagine then slowly reveal it. You said they made zero attempts to explain it, but from what im seeing, the point of the first episode is to show us the characters and their relationships with each others, then a sneak peak of the magical fantasy elements, you see how the grimoire magical part is near the end of the episode, while the first half is all characterizations. I'm hoping we'll see more of this world in the next episode. Oh and by the way, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, a great anime, spent the first 26 episodes introducing characters, and proceed the world building at a slow pace, which each character slowly revealing a piece of the mafia world, yet the anime came out really good and now it's over hundreds of episodes and the story plot characterization is just getting better and better. So I'd say, just don't be so harsh on this first episode. It's just an introduction. We've seen nothing of Black Clover yet, just the setting. And according to many manga readers, this author, like Hero Aca's author, deals with shounen trope and clichés very well, in his own unique way. They both put their own twist to it.

And as for the leaves for the clovers, you ask who decides their meaning. Well, not only in the anime world, but in real life, if you just search online, you'll see some passages like this one: "While trying to convert the Irish into Christians, St. Patrick used the shamrock to explain the holy trinity with each leaf representing the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The three leaves of a shamrock are also said to stand for faith, hope and love. A fourth leaf is where we get the luck from." 3 leaf clover is common, but a 4 leaf clover is uncommon, so if you find it, that means you're lucky, so even though Luck is not a virtue, it can still be what a 4 leaf clover represents. As for the 5 leaf clover, because it's so rare, not even people in real life have a solid definition for it yet. Some say wealth, some say fame. And the author put his own twist and said it's demon, which can be interpreted as evil, dark magic. I have my faith that this series will later on reveal more about the apparent dark "demon" magic that the mc has. And it seems to be the only "dark" magic in this series, all others are neutral, like wind, mineral, fire, etc (which makes it super rare, like the 5 leaf clover). So I say just be patient and wait for the author to tell his story.

Oct 3, 2017 10:09 PM

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i just can't get over how bad everything about this is.

shonen fans will literally watch ANYTHING and call it a masterpiece as long as the MC wants to get stronger.

Oct 3, 2017 10:17 PM

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Himawari9 said:
Asta is not a bad MC, it is just his VA is bad. The guy is a newbie.

You say that but it would have had to been green-lit by the staff and director which thought it was good enough to air.

It was okay. Pretty standard shounen. I did not find any worse than the first episodes of lets say Naruto or One Piece. Maybe it will find its rhythm later on. Hopefully the voice acting for Astra is told to stop doing that long elongated shouting to end sentences. It sounds like someone is sticking a vibrator up his ass!

Oct 3, 2017 10:25 PM

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I liked it, minus Asta straight up acting like an autist. Legit bro stop screaming, just stop.

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Oct 3, 2017 10:32 PM

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Oct 3, 2017 10:41 PM

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eXtacy67 said:

Himawari9 said:
Asta is not a bad MC, it is just his VA is bad. The guy is a newbie.

You say that but it would have had to been green-lit by the staff and director which thought it was good enough to air.

It was okay. Pretty standard shounen. I did not find any worse than the first episodes of lets say Naruto or One Piece. Maybe it will find its rhythm later on. Hopefully the voice acting for Astra is told to stop doing that long elongated shouting to end sentences. It sounds like someone is sticking a vibrator up his ass!

It is not like those directors never make any mistake. They are human. I understand that the directors usually cast newbies for main roles to promote them but this guy has absolutely no experience at all. It is unheard of.
Hanae Natsuki in Tokyo Ghoul, Uemura Yuto in Bungo Stray Dogs, Yamashita Daiki in My Hero Academia, Morita Masakazu in Bleach are newbies when they got their roles but they at least had experience in small roles for other anime.

Oct 3, 2017 10:51 PM

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Tuestresfat said:

Himawari9 said:

At this point in the manga, he is not overpower or anything godlike. You are guessing the plot of an anime based on the plot of other anime. It is unreasonable.

Don't read the manga so I'll take your word for it. Although it's obvious that he will become overpowered. Oh yea somehow shows zero magic affinity, receives 5 leaf clover out of no where, then continues with the rest of his life as completely average or mediocre. lol.

I don't think it's unreasonable for me to predict the plot based on other anime because so many of them are the same. This is besides the point though, even if you're right and I'm wrong about the plot--there are still a lot of distasteful things about this first episode and it seems unlikely that future episodes will remedy them.

I think Asta is similar to Rock Lee in Naruto. He is someone who works hard to achieve his goal despite having no talent.

Oct 3, 2017 10:52 PM

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Wanted to give this a shot but after reading the comments

Oh well can't say this was unexpected.

Oct 3, 2017 10:53 PM

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My first reaction to Asta was, Angry Hinata

Oct 3, 2017 11:16 PM

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If the Asta would chill then I will continue to watch...but damn annoying voice..

Its been a long time to find a voice that annoyed me...

Oct 3, 2017 11:20 PM

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I hate this MC... ugh.. my ear -_-

Oct 3, 2017 11:58 PM

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episode 1...
was an alright episode, nothing too exciting. found asta to be a bit of a loud mouth who continually reminds us that he either wants to be the wizard king or that he has no magic. yuno on the other hand seems to be the stoic, genius, good looker who can do anything.

this episode was pretty much spoiled because of what was said in the synopsis, so i guess i didn't enjoy as much as i would've if say they didn't spoil the fact that yuno receives a four leaf and later on asta a five leaf.

also, what was the part about the five leaf containing a demon? does this mean that asta is a demon in some way?

feel free to discuss with me.

Oct 3, 2017 11:58 PM

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Asta is Saiyan? Who'd a thunk? :' )

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Oct 4, 2017 12:09 AM

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Black Clover? More like Trash Clover.

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Oct 4, 2017 12:16 AM

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Tsukkimaru said:

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Alrighty then. Now I get where you're coming from. Good point. :) Ayumu Murase is a great choice, yeah.

Asta's seiyuu screaming is so unbearable especially that gurgling sound like what the fuck? Hahaha.

Ikr? His continuous extended words and screaming makes him sound like a cawing bird x) I don't really get what he's trying to achieve

I hope it's still possible to change the seiyuu of Asta. Goddamnit. We'll suffer for so long as long as this anime's airing. Lmfao.

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Oct 4, 2017 12:17 AM

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I refuse to sit through another episode if Asta's yelling is going to be this stupid sounding and frequent. Only a single episode and this is far too annoying already. Reminds me of Bakugou from BnH, except Asta's the main character, so we have to deal with him the most. I can't keep dealing with this if it keeps going like this.

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Oct 4, 2017 12:23 AM

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Himawari9 said:
Asta is not a bad MC, it is just his VA is bad. The guy is a newbie.

Aww, I think you guys are all unfair to his voice actor. He is a newbie and I bet it's not (completely) his fault either. May there is a voice director behind it: "Scream more! Yell more! Be more annoying! Imagine you are the most annoying kid on earth!" XD

I mean, I said that I like the "very angry, but very cute"-kids, but I always thought in other cases like Eren and Yuu etc... that they actually have some reasons. Most times. And I like many other "typical" Shounen protas like Rin too. I personally thought that they have actually their own personality beyond the stereotype and are not that dumb like people try to present them imo. For Black Clover, I read some chapters and now I am the person, who doesn't understand when people say: "Asta is just hod-headed and not dumb." I said that about the others, but can't see that in him tbh.
Or I haven't read enough yet. Mah, he isn't just the stereotype for now, he is like the parody, the author didn't want, for it?

And Asta even fucking yells, when he is confessing / asking for a date! Maybe it's just his normal way to communicate and nobody else in his environment understands that? XD
Or maybe they find him hilarious in Japan, because they have a weird sense of humor...

Other things:
The animation is pretty good and I hope, they will keep this quality. The magic system is kind of fun to watch.
For the clovers: it's okay that they didn't explain the magic system yet. I mean, it's the first episode and I'm always in for demons. That really sounds interesting.

So, because I was curious and read the manga chapters, Yuno could be "best boy of the season" for me. Don't judge me. XD He absolutely meets my taste, because he is just the character type I like and something like... the typical rival, but done right? Just more calm and collected, but not the epitome of an edgelord. And he looks good!

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Oct 4, 2017 12:52 AM

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I already want to punch Asta in the face while telling him to shut the hell up, because this is ridiculous.

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MetaThPr4h said:
Why is a new voice actor voicing the protagonist of a series that is supposedly popular? Is he the only one that was ok risking his voice constantly screaming?

Idk man, the villain is shit but that's nothing new for shounen anime's first enemy so it's quite ok, but Asta and his voice is a mix of absurdly annoying and hilarious of how bad it is. Not sure if I will give it another episode.

Hey man it's not the fact that they shouldn't use a new voice actor for a popular anime, they should have used a good and fitting new VA for Asta.

For example, the anime Erased which was very popular when it was released and many fans were howling about it being AOTY or something, and the VA of the mc cannot be any newer. He's not even a professional voice actor to begin with. If I remembered correctly, his profession is like an actor or something.

Then we have the anime Barakamon. It's not one of those super popular shounen anime, but it's very good and positive. And the little girl, Naru, in it was voiced by an eleven year old girl, an actress, and look how incredibly fitting it is. Everyone who watched the anime praised the voice acting for being so well-done and so child-like (im sure most ppl don't know that the VA actually is a kid).

An older anime, Kodocha, the lead main boy, a 11 year old kid, is voiced by a 14 year old boy with no experience in voice acting. And his voice is perfect for the guy because it's monotone, emotionless, just like the guy's personality.

And lastly, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, a character Fran is voiced by a female who's never VA'd before, and Fran is the only character she has ever voice acted since, and her voice is perfect and amazing and all the fans loved it, her character and her voice.

So the problem isn't with a "new voice actor" playing a lead role in a popular anime, it's not finding the right VA for the role. Let us hope the VA will improve as he voice acts more episodes. Just like the VA of the mc in Reborn, many said her voice sucks for the mc, making him sound too girly and annoying (especially with those hieeeeee!!!) but as time passed she became way better. Just watch the last episode of Reborn (eps 200 or something) and compare that to episode 1, see how much she improved.

Oct 4, 2017 1:14 AM

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https://youtu.be/Vcd9tZ51oXg
holy crap this is embarrassing, ridiculous LMAO. I wasn't gonna watch it anyway but damn.

I realize now what made me skip through parts of the episode.

...At least let me finish.

Oct 4, 2017 1:56 AM

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first episode was great....asta ...my favorite character after watching lol
he looks like a mixture of naruto n natsu ....N eijun from ace of diamond though......

thanks for shounen anime ....>~<

Oct 4, 2017 2:28 AM

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This anime is completely ripping off other shounen and people are saying its mainstream. It was ok but for god sake change the VA of Asta who scream like a bitch. His voice is so annoying that I leave the episode halfway.

Oct 4, 2017 2:46 AM

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What a let down, this was trash

Oct 4, 2017 3:10 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:

Himawari9 said:
Asta is not a bad MC, it is just his VA is bad. The guy is a newbie.

Aww, I think you guys are all unfair to his voice actor. He is a newbie and I bet it's not (completely) his fault either. May there is a voice director behind it: "Scream more! Yell more! Be more annoying! Imagine you are the most annoying kid on earth!" XD

I mean, I said that I like the "very angry, but very cute"-kids, but I always thought in other cases like Eren and Yuu etc... that they actually have some reasons. Most times. And I like many other "typical" Shounen protas like Rin too. I personally thought thst they have actually their own personality and are not that dumb like people try to present them imo. For Black Clover, I read some chapters and now I am the person, who doesn't understand when people say: "Asta is just hod-headed and not dumb." I said that about the others, but can't see that here. Or I haven't read enough yet. Mah, he isn't just the stereotype for now, he is like the parody - the author didn't want - for it?

And Asta even fucking yells when he is confessing / asking for a date! Maybe it's just his normal way to communicate and nobody else understands him!? XD
Or maybe they find him hilarious in Japan, because they have weird sense of humor...

Other things:
The animation is pretty good and I hope, they will keep this quality. The magic system is kind of fun to watch.
For the clovers: it's okay that they didn't explain the magic system yet. I mean, it's the first episode and I'm always in for demons. That really sounds interesting.

So, because I was curious and read the manga chapters, Yuno could be "best boy of the season" for me. Don't judge me. XD He absolutely meets my taste, because he is just the character type I like and something like... the typical rival, but done right? Just more calm and collected, but not the epitome of an edgelord. And he looks good!

I have been following Black Clover since its debut in Jump because I read the mangaka's previous work. I never see Asta as someone annoying. He is enthusiastic and confident. Yelling is fine but dragging the sentence is bad. I am considering just sticking to the manga and dropping the anime.

Oct 4, 2017 3:28 AM

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ttcchen said:

MetaThPr4h said:
Why is a new voice actor voicing the protagonist of a series that is supposedly popular? Is he the only one that was ok risking his voice constantly screaming?

Idk man, the villain is shit but that's nothing new for shounen anime's first enemy so it's quite ok, but Asta and his voice is a mix of absurdly annoying and hilarious of how bad it is. Not sure if I will give it another episode.

Hey man it's not the fact that they shouldn't use a new voice actor for a popular anime, they should have used a good and fitting new VA for Asta.

For example, the anime Erased which was very popular when it was released and many fans were howling about it being AOTY or something, and the VA of the mc cannot be any newer. He's not even a professional voice actor to begin with. If I remembered correctly, his profession is like an actor or something.

Then we have the anime Barakamon. It's not one of those super popular shounen anime, but it's very good and positive. And the little girl, Naru, in it was voiced by an eleven year old girl, an actress, and look how incredibly fitting it is. Everyone who watched the anime praised the voice acting for being so well-done and so child-like (im sure most ppl don't know that the VA actually is a kid).

An older anime, Kodocha, the lead main boy, a 11 year old kid, is voiced by a 14 year old boy with no experience in voice acting. And his voice is perfect for the guy because it's monotone, emotionless, just like the guy's personality.

And lastly, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, a character Fran is voiced by a female who's never VA'd before, and Fran is the only character she has ever voice acted since, and her voice is perfect and amazing and all the fans loved it, her character and her voice.

So the problem isn't with a "new voice actor" playing a lead role in a popular anime, it's not finding the right VA for the role. Let us hope the VA will improve as he voice acts more episodes. Just like the VA of the mc in Reborn, many said her voice sucks for the mc, making him sound too girly and annoying (especially with those hieeeeee!!!) but as time passed she became way better. Just watch the last episode of Reborn (eps 200 or something) and compare that to episode 1, see how much she improved.

Usually, actor/ actress who step into the voice acting industry will be good since they have experience with acting like Kato Kazuki. I never have any problems with VA before even for Tsuna. I skip half of the episode because his voice made feel irritated.

PS: I check and see that Sachi Kokuryu had several small roles before Fran.

Oct 4, 2017 3:32 AM

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ttcchen said:

MetaThPr4h said:
Why is a new voice actor voicing the protagonist of a series that is supposedly popular? Is he the only one that was ok risking his voice constantly screaming?

Idk man, the villain is shit but that's nothing new for shounen anime's first enemy so it's quite ok, but Asta and his voice is a mix of absurdly annoying and hilarious of how bad it is. Not sure if I will give it another episode.

Hey man it's not the fact that they shouldn't use a new voice actor for a popular anime, they should have used a good and fitting new VA for Asta.

So the problem isn't with a "new voice actor" playing a lead role in a popular anime, it's not finding the right VA for the role. Let us hope the VA will improve as he voice acts more episodes. Just like the VA of the mc in Reborn, many said her voice sucks for the mc, making him sound too girly and annoying (especially with those hieeeeee!!!) but as time passed she became way better. Just watch the last episode of Reborn (eps 200 or something) and compare that to episode 1, see how much she improved.

That was an interesting list of examples, thanks for sharing!

Oct 4, 2017 3:32 AM

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Meh I just watched diamond no ace and I'm sick of Furuya ,,,, not here again. this Va succeeds to piss me off

Oct 4, 2017 3:55 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:

Aww, I think you guys are all unfair to his voice actor. He is a newbie and I bet it's not (completely) his fault either. May there is a voice director behind it: "Scream more! Yell more! Be more annoying! Imagine you are the most annoying kid on earth!" XD

I mean, I said that I like the "very angry, but very cute"-kids, but I always thought in other cases like Eren and Yuu etc... that they actually have some reasons. Most times. And I like many other "typical" Shounen protas like Rin too. I personally thought thst they have actually their own personality and are not that dumb like people try to present them imo. For Black Clover, I read some chapters and now I am the person, who doesn't understand when people say: "Asta is just hod-headed and not dumb." I said that about the others, but can't see that here. Or I haven't read enough yet. Mah, he isn't just the stereotype for now, he is like the parody - the author didn't want - for it?

And Asta even fucking yells when he is confessing / asking for a date! Maybe it's just his normal way to communicate and nobody else understands him!? XD
Or maybe they find him hilarious in Japan, because they have weird sense of humor...

Other things:
The animation is pretty good and I hope, they will keep this quality. The magic system is kind of fun to watch.
For the clovers: it's okay that they didn't explain the magic system yet. I mean, it's the first episode and I'm always in for demons. That really sounds interesting.

So, because I was curious and read the manga chapters, Yuno could be "best boy of the season" for me. Don't judge me. XD He absolutely meets my taste, because he is just the character type I like and something like... the typical rival, but done right? Just more calm and collected, but not the epitome of an edgelord. And he looks good!

I have been following Black Clover since its debut in Jump because I read the mangaka's previous work. I never see Asta as someone annoying. He is enthusiastic and confident. Yelling is fine but dragging the sentence is bad. I am considering just sticking to the manga and dropping the anime.

I didn't feel like he is actually annoying in the manga... because paper is silent maybe? XD you just SEE him yelling and that's "fine".
I was just not interested in him like in other protas, I think. There is a difference between hot-headed and stubborn and not the brightest bulb there / absolutely dense / not interesting in some ways IMO. Maybe I thought that way towards him, because he didn't give me more insight other than the "things I should do and say as Shounen prota" yet.

Anyway, it's not the voice actor's fault, when he got a character, who is 80 % of the time, capable of not much more than one emotion: AAAAHH! ... in one way or another. XD and if he shouldn't drag the words out, I guess the director would have told him to stop. So, maybe that was not his idea to yell like that lol
Imagine his voice is always down until the next week's episode, if you have to act for that character. XD

Oct 4, 2017 4:21 AM

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Meh I just watched diamond no ace and I'm sick of Furuya ,,,, not here again. this Va succeeds to piss me off

yea lol these 2 remind me of sawamura-furuya

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Oct 4, 2017 4:31 AM

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Well for the first 5mins almost dropping due to asta annoying voice.... probably might be the first anime i dropped coz of the voice...and damn i like yuno...

Oct 4, 2017 5:16 AM

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Asta voice actor ruined the whole episode, it gave me headache in the first 5 minutes, ending of the episode was OK, all in all nothing special.

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Himawari9 said:

ttcchen said:

Hey man it's not the fact that they shouldn't use a new voice actor for a popular anime, they should have used a good and fitting new VA for Asta.

For example, the anime Erased which was very popular when it was released and many fans were howling about it being AOTY or something, and the VA of the mc cannot be any newer. He's not even a professional voice actor to begin with. If I remembered correctly, his profession is like an actor or something.

Then we have the anime Barakamon. It's not one of those super popular shounen anime, but it's very good and positive. And the little girl, Naru, in it was voiced by an eleven year old girl, an actress, and look how incredibly fitting it is. Everyone who watched the anime praised the voice acting for being so well-done and so child-like (im sure most ppl don't know that the VA actually is a kid).

An older anime, Kodocha, the lead main boy, a 11 year old kid, is voiced by a 14 year old boy with no experience in voice acting. And his voice is perfect for the guy because it's monotone, emotionless, just like the guy's personality.

And lastly, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, a character Fran is voiced by a female who's never VA'd before, and Fran is the only character she has ever voice acted since, and her voice is perfect and amazing and all the fans loved it, her character and her voice.

So the problem isn't with a "new voice actor" playing a lead role in a popular anime, it's not finding the right VA for the role. Let us hope the VA will improve as he voice acts more episodes. Just like the VA of the mc in Reborn, many said her voice sucks for the mc, making him sound too girly and annoying (especially with those hieeeeee!!!) but as time passed she became way better. Just watch the last episode of Reborn (eps 200 or something) and compare that to episode 1, see how much she improved.

Usually, actor/ actress who step into the voice acting industry will be good since they have experience with acting like Kato Kazuki. I never have any problems with VA before even for Tsuna. I skip half of the episode because his voice made feel irritated.

PS: I check and see that Sachi Kokuryu had several small roles before Fran.

My bad. The last time I checked her voice acting roles was about 6 years ago I believe. I remembered vaguely a voice actor doing a great job despite having only one role and never voice acting again. I guess I mistook her for someone else. I still don't remember who that voice actor is. If I do remember, I'll edit this.

Oct 4, 2017 5:25 AM

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MetaThPr4h said:

ttcchen said:

Hey man it's not the fact that they shouldn't use a new voice actor for a popular anime, they should have used a good and fitting new VA for Asta.

So the problem isn't with a "new voice actor" playing a lead role in a popular anime, it's not finding the right VA for the role. Let us hope the VA will improve as he voice acts more episodes. Just like the VA of the mc in Reborn, many said her voice sucks for the mc, making him sound too girly and annoying (especially with those hieeeeee!!!) but as time passed she became way better. Just watch the last episode of Reborn (eps 200 or something) and compare that to episode 1, see how much she improved.

That was an interesting list of examples, thanks for sharing!

no problem bro.
In the above list, I highly recommend Barakamon. It's an extremely positive, unique, anime with lots of character development and contains many interesting life lessons and advices and it's very different from most animes nowadays. Every character is likeable, and everyone is so friendly watching this anime made you want to go in there and live with everyone, because the atmosphere is just so like a family. Like all the characters are just one big family. It's like Natsume's Book of Friends where it leaves you feeling warm and fuzzy inside after each episode. So if you ever feel sad or stressful, or if you have time, go check out this anime. It truly deserves more recognition.

Oct 4, 2017 6:15 AM

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This episode is similar to the OVA but with better and new visuals

Why they changed the voice actor ?! The one from OVA is better

But anyway, the 1st was so good as expected

Oct 4, 2017 6:22 AM

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The Episode was quite enjoyable, even with the constant screaming... :3

Oct 4, 2017 6:27 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:

Himawari9 said:

I have been following Black Clover since its debut in Jump because I read the mangaka's previous work. I never see Asta as someone annoying. He is enthusiastic and confident. Yelling is fine but dragging the sentence is bad. I am considering just sticking to the manga and dropping the anime.

I didn't feel like he is actually annoying in the manga... because paper is silent maybe? XD you just SEE him yelling and that's "fine".
I was just not interested in him like in other protas, I think. There is a difference between hot-headed and stubborn and not the brightest bulb there / absolutely dense / not interesting in some ways IMO. Maybe I thought that way towards him, because he didn't give me more insight other than the "things I should do and say as Shounen prota" yet.

Anyway, it's not the voice actor's fault, when he got a character, who is 80 % of the time, capable of not much more than one emotion: AAAAHH! ... in one way or another. XD and if he shouldn't drag the words out, I guess the director would have told him to stop. So, maybe that was not his idea to yell like that lol
Imagine his voice is always down until the next week's episode, if you have to act for that character. XD

How many chapters did you read actually?

Oct 4, 2017 6:38 AM

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Oh God, that was shit. Seriously, you guys comparing this to Naruto. Naruto is a fucking 10/10 compared to this.

Oct 4, 2017 6:55 AM

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Asta VA make my head blow up and heating my ears. I gonna drop this show if he getting worse.

Oct 4, 2017 6:57 AM

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Still need a few more episodes to decide whether to drop or not.

I hope it gets better or I'll drop it because of the same reason like a lot of people here

Oct 4, 2017 7:07 AM

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