Do you believe anime is objectifying all women?
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YandereTheEmo said: silversongwriter said: I make it obvious what's silly hyperbole and what's my serious opinion... people on MAL just can't take my sense of humor Do you? It's kind of hard to differentiate between your 'honest' opinions and hyperbole when you 'honestly' encourage/endorse some of the things you've talked about across the forums. What have I honestly endorsed that was so bad? |
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| Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. |
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| I voted yes, but I find most media objectifies women. Though it feels different in anime. In anime it feels more like it comes from deep seeded roots in tradition. Stay at home wife and a salary man husband. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. It does. |
| I think we need to make the distinction between casual flattery and objectifying to the point of insulting. Or rather, recognize this is a medium selling looks, but at what point does the selling become too much. Whichever. Writing quality also plays a part in this, since a poorly realized character will just come across as a collection of desirable traits and little else, while you can very well have a sexy, classy and still well-written lead (Kuroyukihime from Accel World comes to mind), where the appearance is part of them instead of the other way around. |
Agafin said: But that also means that Goat Simulator makes you a goat <.<Milk_is_Special said: Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. It does. |
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Milk_is_Special said: well that would explain a lot of my recent behavior and cravings for trashAgafin said: But that also means that Goat Simulator makes you a goat <.<It does. |
Killaclown said: Hmmm, Now I think about it, it kinda does make you a goat!Milk_is_Special said: well that would explain a lot of my recent behavior and cravings for trashBut that also means that Goat Simulator makes you a goat <.< |
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Milk_is_Special said: Killaclown said: Hmmm, Now I think about it, it kinda does make you a goat!well that would explain a lot of my recent behavior and cravings for trash shooting games DOES make you more violent and anime IS objectifying women and goat simulator ..... well .................. :| [spoiler] i kinda had sex with a goat the other day ............................. i blame the simulator !!! i also blame Disney, but that, is another story :| |
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Milk_is_Special said: Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. Indeed. Just because I like killing people in Grand Theft Auto, doesn't mean I want to go kill people in real life. That's just silly, and it's the same thing here. These people also don't want to kill others. |
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WAD1992 said: You should see a doctor man, not even lying....Milk_is_Special said: Hmmm, Now I think about it, it kinda does make you a goat! shooting games DOES make you more violent and anime IS objectifying women and goat simulator ..... well .................. :| [spoiler] i kinda had sex with a goat the other day ............................. i blame the simulator !!! i also blame Disney, but that, is another story :| |
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Milk_is_Special said: WAD1992 said: [/spoiler]You should see a doctor man, not even lying....shooting games DOES make you more violent and anime IS objectifying women and goat simulator ..... well .................. :| [spoiler] i kinda had sex with a goat the other day ............................. i blame the simulator !!! i also blame Disney, but that, is another story :| that's rich coming from someone with your reasoning -_- |
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RedRoseFring said: Yes it is: let's see a picture of robin and nami AFTER the time skip -_- |
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| if you don't want to watch an anime that objectifies watch Free!.... wait a minute |
Killaclown said: if you don't want to watch an anime that objectifies watch Free!.... wait a minute LOOOLLLL ......... that's a sheep shot :") |
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WAD1992 said: had to be done lolKillaclown said: if you don't want to watch an anime that objectifies watch Free!.... wait a minute LOOOLLLL ......... that's a sheep shot :") |
Milk_is_Special said: Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. Yeah... no. It's the same as saying shooting games ARE violent. Which is true. How/If that influences people is another question, but shooting games ARE violent and a lot of anime ARE sexist/objectifiying women. There's a whole fandom based around that objectification (or what else would you call dakimakuras for example? A literal objectification of a lot of the female characters in anime.) Japan as a whole is a fairly sexist society so it's not surprising either. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Milk_is_Special said: Saying that anime objectifies women is just as bad as saying that shooting games make you violent. Yeah... no. It's the same as saying shooting games ARE violent. Which is true. How/If that influences people is another question, but shooting games ARE violent and a lot of anime ARE sexist/objectifiying women. There's a whole fandom based around that objectification (or what else would you call dakimakuras for example? A literal objectification of a lot of the female characters in anime.) Japan as a whole is a fairly sexist society so it's not surprising either. Ive literally never seen an anime that's sexist... DearS is the closest thing |
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silversongwriter said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Yeah... no. It's the same as saying shooting games ARE violent. Which is true. How/If that influences people is another question, but shooting games ARE violent and a lot of anime ARE sexist/objectifiying women. There's a whole fandom based around that objectification (or what else would you call dakimakuras for example? A literal objectification of a lot of the female characters in anime.) Japan as a whole is a fairly sexist society so it's not surprising either. Ive literally never seen an anime that's sexist... DearS is the closest thing lol ... what are you talking about, anime is filled with stereotypical characters and will almost ALWAYS find similar (if not identical) characters/character roles ... and i just realized you were being sarcastic :") .... LOL typical troll @silver :") |
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| Anime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. |
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DrGeroCreation said: everyone knows you become stronger when you take your shirt off pshhhAnime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. |
| anime objectifies transvestites b/c traps |
Killaclown said: DrGeroCreation said: everyone knows you become stronger when you take your shirt off pshhhAnime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. and your hair turns blond when you scream loud enough .... that's just common sens , right there!!! [spoiler] i'm almost there by the way, just waiting until my tonsils recover so i could continue my LOUD voice training |
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WAD1992 said: [/quote]I believe in you :pKillaclown said: everyone knows you become stronger when you take your shirt off pshhh and your hair turns blond when you scream loud enough .... that's just common sens , right there!!! [spoiler] i'm almost there by the way, just waiting until my tonsils recover so i could continue my LOUD voice training[/soiler] |
Killaclown said: I believe in you :p[/quote]WAD1992 said: and your hair turns blond when you scream loud enough .... that's just common sens , right there!!! [spoiler] i'm almost there by the way, just waiting until my tonsils recover so i could continue my LOUD voice training[/soiler] damn it!! you closed my spoiler tag :"( Yurusenai !!!!! >:O [spoiler] that means unforgivable [spoiler] i really hate myself for knowing that :| |
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Killaclown said: That only seems to work for muscular guys when it comes to DBZ. AT's objectification of men needs to stop or I riot.DrGeroCreation said: everyone knows you become stronger when you take your shirt off pshhhAnime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. |
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Journey_95 said: yes it does objectify all women but I don't really care I'm already sick off all these feminists especially in regards to video games and tv shows ughh thank god the japanese are different we can have hot girls with large boobs and big asses everywhere and almost no one bitches hopefully it will stay that way anime just like other mediums is supposed to entertain but some people just take it way too seriously kinda this, although I wouldn't really call it really objectifying, it's just that every healthy dude prefers to look at girls that are cute and hot, so there's no need for them not to be. it's the same with guys in anime for girls |
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DrGeroCreation said: Anime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. Is that sexist? Objectifying something isn't really sexist. The problem is that ugly ass people get upset when they see someone better looking than them. I see why feminists cry sexism whenever they see half-naked women. They're jealous because most of them are fat and fugly as shit, so they get mad when they see an actual beautiful woman. |
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WAD1992 said: Killaclown said: I believe in you :pdamn it!! you closed my spoiler tag :"( Yurusenai !!!!! >:O [spoiler] that means unforgivable [spoiler] i really hate myself for knowing that :|[/quote] I still think it's cool for knowing those little words. What you should hate yourself for is when you look away for one second and your inner weeaboo comes out. |
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silversongwriter said: DrGeroCreation said: Anime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. Is that sexist? Objectifying something isn't really sexist. The problem is that ugly ass people get upset when they see someone better looking than them. I see why feminists cry sexism whenever they see half-naked women. They're jealous because most of them are fat and fugly as shit, so they get mad when they see an actual beautiful woman. holy shit so you actually can say something accurate do you but seriously,if this was tumblr,rotten tomatoes would've been thrown at you |
Dark_Chaos said: WAD1992 said: I believe in you :p damn it!! you closed my spoiler tag :"( Yurusenai !!!!! >:O I still think it's cool for knowing those little words. What you should hate yourself for is when you look away for one second and your inner weeaboo comes out.[/quote] jk bro jk ... :P .... dont really care OR hate myself XP |
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| Yes, but it's not just anime, it also happens in movies, games, people in real life. Basically everywhere, so it's not really a problem with anime itself. |
silversongwriter said: Jealousy is a really ugly thing that cause people to make all kinds of accusations and throw fits.DrGeroCreation said: Anime objectifies both men and women. I have contacted a feminist group and they are writing a letter to AT (Akira Toriyama) addressing the objectification of men in DBZ. AT should be drawing morbidly obese and super thin men saving the world not muscular guys who usually have their shirts off. Is that sexist? Objectifying something isn't really sexist. The problem is that ugly ass people get upset when they see someone better looking than them. I see why feminists cry sexism whenever they see half-naked women. They're jealous because most of them are fat and fugly as shit, so they get mad when they see an actual beautiful woman. |
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Vanisher said: Yes, but it's not just anime, it also happens in movies, games, people in real life. Basically everywhere, so it's not really a problem with anime itself. yep, just look at Minage's anaconda and Lopez's butty music videos they're BASICALLY PORN!!! -_- and lol ... talk about what's culturally accepted in Japan and NOT accepted in the US , the entire world is basically a GIANT mass of hypocrisy and lies ..... |
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DrGeroCreation said: silversongwriter said: Jealousy is a really ugly thing that cause people to make all kinds of accusations and throw fits.Is that sexist? Objectifying something isn't really sexist. The problem is that ugly ass people get upset when they see someone better looking than them. I see why feminists cry sexism whenever they see half-naked women. They're jealous because most of them are fat and fugly as shit, so they get mad when they see an actual beautiful woman. @Cell don't get into it with him, he's just trolling and teasing . bad troll @silver ... very bad!!! >:( |
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kawaii-despair said: silversongwriter said: Is that sexist? Objectifying something isn't really sexist. The problem is that ugly ass people get upset when they see someone better looking than them. I see why feminists cry sexism whenever they see half-naked women. They're jealous because most of them are fat and fugly as shit, so they get mad when they see an actual beautiful woman. holy shit so you actually can say something accurate do you but seriously,if this was tumblr,rotten tomatoes would've been thrown at you We're living in a world where no one wants to face reality. Everyone and everything is beautiful. We can be tolerant and intolerant at the same time. If we keep walking with our eyes closed we're eventually going to walk off the cliff. |
WAD1992 said: Vanisher said: Yes, but it's not just anime, it also happens in movies, games, people in real life. Basically everywhere, so it's not really a problem with anime itself. yep, just look at Minage's anaconda and Lopez's butty music videos they're BASICALLY PORN!!! -_- and lol ... talk about what's culturally accepted in Japan and NOT accepted in the US , the entire world is basically a GIANT mass of hypocrisy and lies ..... welcome to the world dude |
kawaii-despair said: WAD1992 said: yep, just look at Minage's anaconda and Lopez's butty music videos they're BASICALLY PORN!!! -_- and lol ... talk about what's culturally accepted in Japan and NOT accepted in the US , the entire world is basically a GIANT mass of hypocrisy and lies ..... welcome to the world dude i was here Saisho kara also stop acting like that Junko bitch -_- , no one likes her .... be more like Naegi-kun :) .... better to live in a happy lie then a sad truth (provided you DO perceive the world as pointless and hellish, because i honestly don't ) .... enjoy the small stuff ... |
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WAD1992 said: kawaii-despair said: welcome to the world dude i was here Saisho kara also stop acting like that Junko bitch -_- , no one likes her .... be more like Naegi-kun :) .... better to live in a happy lie then a sad truth (provided you DO perceive the world as pointless and hellish, because i honestly don't ) .... enjoy the small stuff ... I like to think I act more like Komaeda. I passionately hate Junko,I didn't mean to act like that bitch Naegi is the bright light that I can't reach oh and on a side note,you'd be surprised that we are in the minority for hating Junko. |
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WAD1992 said: DrGeroCreation said: Jealousy is a really ugly thing that cause people to make all kinds of accusations and throw fits. @Cell don't get into it with him, he's just trolling and teasing . bad troll @silver ... very bad!!! >:( Not really... I'm right. Most feminazi's look like fucking Rosie O'Donalds armpit... that's why they don't like seeing pretty women. |
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| feminazis and SJW's are very bad ppl and should be ashamed of themselves |
Killaclown said: feminazis and SJW's are very bad ppl and should be ashamed of themselves SJW? |
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silversongwriter said: Social Justice Warrior.Killaclown said: feminazis and SJW's are very bad ppl and should be ashamed of themselves SJW? |
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AnimeSweden said: Your example agrees with what I said. The two year old's lack of knowledge of what a gun is and can do, as well as the parents lack of knowledge of how to properly store dangerous tools led to that whole accident. Teaching and understanding are infinitely more useful than censorship, and always will be.Shrabster said: Like that two year old who killed his own mother by shooting her to death in an accident just recently? Yeah. That kid must have wanted to kill her so badly. Evil as fuck. Hitler 2.0 probably.Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. |
ShrabsterJan 27, 2015 5:07 PM
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Shrabster said: Yet accidents always happen no matter how well you teach the people who are interested in actually learning. Would you make the same argument if we were talking about mini-nukes that could blow up a house? It's safe as long as people know how to handle it you know... Why not make the risk as small as possible instead? Let the ones who really need to own a gun own a gun (collector, sport, hunting etc etc) and let the mothers with their babies walk the streets without a gun.AnimeSweden said: Your example agrees with what I said. The two year old's lack of knowledge of what a gun is and can do, as well as the parents lack of knowledge of how to properly store dangerous tools led to that whole accident. Teaching and understanding are infinitely more useful than censorship.Like that two year old who killed his own mother by shooting her to death in an accident just recently? Yeah. That kid must have wanted to kill her so badly. Evil as fuck. Hitler 2.0 probably. |
AnimeSweden said: Bombs have one purpose, guns do not. Yes, I would always make the case that teaching and understanding is the best solution because no solution is 100%, it's about picking the best one. In the specific case you brought up the mother should have never been sold the gun if she didn't know how to store it properly and clearly wasn't aware of where the gun was at all times like you're suppose to be as taught by gun safety. The thing about outlawing guns for those who don't have reason to own one is that everyone has a very legitimate reason to own them, self defense. Shrabster said: Yet accidents always happen no matter how well you teach the people who are interested in actually learning. Would you make the same argument if we were talking about mini-nukes that could blow up a house? It's safe as long as people know how to handle it you know... Why not make the risk as small as possible instead? Let the ones who really need to own a gun own a gun (collector, sport, hunting etc etc) and let the mothers with their babies walk the streets without a gun.Your example agrees with what I said. The two year old's lack of knowledge of what a gun is and can do, as well as the parents lack of knowledge of how to properly store dangerous tools led to that whole accident. Teaching and understanding are infinitely more useful than censorship. |
ShrabsterJan 27, 2015 5:38 PM
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