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| wowa O_O' six characters already died?? <__< this is becoming more AWESOME *O* LOL at the Kyrie-finger-snap :p |
| It's interesting how some first-time viewers bashed the VN-players for complaining about pacing, character-developments and stuffs in the Episode 1 discussion thread, while some first-time viewers now are doing the very same thing. Enjoy your DEEN-surprises, guys. |
SNSD said: confused_kitsune said: Forever said: - 6 deaths already and we didn't get much to see of some of these 6 guys. I even have a hard time to remember which persons those 6 are. I mean Shanon and Battler's parents and the cook and Krause, but the 6th is not there in my mind, therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes. *Krauss The sixth one was Rosa. WTF?! Rosa died?! She deserved it so it doesn't really matter. |
| Seems like the show will be focusing heavily on the mystery and plot rather than character development. As long as people understand that, they will probably enjoy it a bit more. |
| I thought it was hilarious how even though there was blood all over her door, and people were missing, Natsuhi kept asking them to make breakfast. Her priorities suck. |
| well.. the 2nd eppy is twice as better as the 1st one... obviously because it brought some promising story development. However, a good plot is not enough!! So far Chiaki Kon totally failed as a director for this show. And I pray she won't direct Nodame 3 as she definitely failed the Paris Hen too.. Maria reading the Beatrice letter - awful Battler seeing his parents dead - lame that sudden George-Shannon scene... the show is really directed poorly.. once again, even though I didn't play VN, nor read the manga.. the pacing looks very rushy and shallow the Lone Island Syndrome - that's how a good detective/horror story should be played ^^ PS. I just love that Ian Gillan parody in the ending))))) |
soulelleJul 11, 2009 5:41 PM
| maria's eyes O_O i just felt aww as in ^_^ but then ;O to the whole Shannon and George thing -_-'' nice change of pace in the plot though. want to see the next episode already |
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| Lol, Maria went a little crazy while reading the letter. The ShannonxGeorge scene was so cute! Didn't have much hope in it, but it was still pretty awesome. Aww, Maria was watching Higurashi near the end~ The end was just wow. 6 people are already dead. They really get to the point. Can't wait to see what happens next episode. && Battler's scream and Jessica freaking out in the end was pure lol |
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Sheepdude said: 07th expansion does it again. Although it seems the game griefers won't be satisfied until the show becomes a thirty-hour long video of someone scrolling through the game text. Six of their beloved family members have just been killed in cold blood. What could the survivors be thinking? The murderer must still be on the island. Is it an outsider? Is it one of them? Is it the housing staff? Revenge must be on the mind, as well as concern for their own wellbeing. They could run away from the island, but they'd never find the killer, or be able to avenge their family. It seems unplausable for a single individual to have killed six people overnight. Moreover, the killer couldn't be among the dead; after all, the corpses have been disfigured after death. What was the killer's motive? There has been talk about the distribution of wealth after the family head's death among the adults, and the suspicion of a hidden cache of gold as well as the legend of Beatrice. Which of these weigh into the equation, and to what extent? There's also the issue of the blood markings on Natsuhi's door and on the shed. Does the scorpion charm have any bearing on the door markings? What is the significance of the magic circle? To have created it must have taken a long time, and the time window for the killings is only about six hours. Is it the work of Beatrice? Will the family be taken in by superstition, or will they cling to a logical explanation? Only rarely can a show get so much moving in just the first two episodes. Battler will have to answer all this later ;). If you don't understand don't worry. I really liked the way this episode went. The beginning did seem a bit rushed but it felt like a typical "build up before the blood bath" that we often see in horror movies and anime, so it's understandable. |
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| Now I haven't played the VN. And I'll probably pick that up after the show but there is one question that is lingering in my mind. I'll need to go back and watch the episode again, to get a better gist of the story and pick up on the more subtler nuances and plot developments. But that was the one thing that jumped out at me. Of course knowing 07th Expansion, I couldn't be more wrong. I guess I'll have to see. |
seraphjeiJul 11, 2009 8:59 PM
hopperjp said: Those who complains about the lack of development of characters or sudden slaughter of as many as 6 characters should know that it is carefully intended. 07th Expansion's stories has an unique style, which I think is familiar to those who know Higurashi no Naku koro ni. This spoiler mentions only the structure of story, and not such spoiler as WHO killed WHOM and HOW for WHAT end, so don't be afraid too much opening this spoiler box. Except that the original novel gave us characterization, set up the mood and didn't rush, sure. |
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| Maria face.. ~Auu.. Vectors please (heading over to 4chan :D) |
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| Shannon! OHNOEZ! Well this was much much better than the first episode and I hope it stays that way. I've really warmed up to the opening and ending now. I don't have any idea who died except Jessica's dad and Shannon though so I should check that. Nice though I liked it. |
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| To reiterate everyone that died. Dead: 1. Rudolf: Battler's dad 2. Kyrie: Battler's step-mom 3. Rosa: Maria's mom 4. Krauss: Jessica's dad 5. Gohda: Head cook 6. Shannon: Servant of Kinzo and George's fiance The only parents that are still alive are Hideyoshi and Eva (George's parents) and Natsuhi (Jessica's mom) Of Kinzo's children Krauss, Rudolf, and Rosa are all dead. Only Eva is still alive, all of her siblings were killed. I seriously can not understand how on Earth they have not read the entire epitaph yet in the anime. That was seriously something they could NOT skip. This is the epitaph of the witch written by Kinzo that's under the portrait of Beatrice. The one that's mentioned in the letter from Beatrice. It is not a spoiler and will REALLY help you in understanding whats going on. Also, here's Beatrice's letter that Maria read: |
DrZedJul 13, 2009 11:34 AM
| I don't understan anything. Absolutely. I loved the organ music :D. |
Zedrane said: I seriously can not understand how on Earth they have not read the entire epitaph yet in the anime. I'm pretty sure they didn't reveal the entire epitaph because there's a later scene where they read it. And that scene is a lot more important. They probably thought it'd be redundant to have it read twice so they cut the first. Unlike the visual novel, there's time restrictions. They have to cut away redundant parts in order to have time for more important stuff. |
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MarthX said: Zedrane said: I seriously can not understand how on Earth they have not read the entire epitaph yet in the anime. I'm pretty sure they didn't reveal the entire epitaph because there's a later scene where they read it. And that scene is a lot more important. They probably thought it'd be redundant to have it read twice so they cut the first. Unlike the visual novel, there's time restrictions. They have to cut away redundant parts in order to have time for more important stuff. It would have taken like1 minute to read. They could have fit it in. |
Zedrane said: MarthX said: Zedrane said: I seriously can not understand how on Earth they have not read the entire epitaph yet in the anime. I'm pretty sure they didn't reveal the entire epitaph because there's a later scene where they read it. And that scene is a lot more important. They probably thought it'd be redundant to have it read twice so they cut the first. Unlike the visual novel, there's time restrictions. They have to cut away redundant parts in order to have time for more important stuff. It would have taken like1 minute to read. They could have fit it in. 1 minute is a lot. 1 extra minute would have made the first twilight a lot better. More time for Battler's breakdown and allow them to start goldenslaughter at the beginning instead of jumping to the middle. |
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| 50 bucks says Krauss' (sp?) the bad guy. i don't care if he just died, this is anime. it'll happen somehow. PS. never played the game. no spoiler intented. but if i'm right; BAM! WHO CALLED IT?! |
SkrabonesJul 12, 2009 5:47 PM
| the masochist says "hurt me! hurt me!" the sadist replies "no" |
| @ BubbleBoy: Someone already said something earlier in the thread that kinda, if you think about it enough, exposes and doesn't expose the villain. =3 But I really can't take the stress anymore, so I'm going to find that first episode of the VN someone said's like a free demo and has an English patch. I'm just praying the gore doesn't give me nightmares like Higurashi did. Those were some awful dreams, I almost cried when I woke up. .,.; |
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| One of my favorites this summer for sure, loving this already. |
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| I loved the Rena face on Maria. Especially because they have the same color of hair. I think I'm going to love this show ^_^ |
"Thousands have lived without love, not one without water." -Wystan Hugh |
| Looks like exorcism will be necessary.. Unfortunately, aside from the members of their household, nobody else is on the island and more importantly, nobody else knows that they went on that island in the first place. Next episode... Last episode was like an ecchi love comedy yet this episode turned out to be something completely different. So, this is the popular Umineko series.. |
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Kira01 said: Looks like exorcism will be necessary.. Unfortunately, aside from the members of their household, nobody else is on the island and more importantly, nobody else knows that they went on that island in the first place. Next episode... Last episode was like an ecchi love comedy yet this episode turned out to be something completely different. So, this is the popular Umineko series.. Hohoho, this is still the less interesting part. Also: |
DrZedJul 13, 2009 4:58 PM
| Maria = the Arnold Horshack of anime. uuuuu! uuuuu! Beatrice! uuuuuu! Mr Kotter! uuuuuuuuuuu! Isn't the title spelled wrong? Shouldn't it be Uuumineko? |
RalonzoJul 13, 2009 8:05 PM
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| They just killed 1/3 of the cast in ep2? The f.. I thought they'll die one by one. Heavy stuff. |
Ralonzo said: Isn't the title spelled wrong? Shouldn't it be Uuumineko? I rofled really hard ^_^ |
"Thousands have lived without love, not one without water." -Wystan Hugh |
Ralonzo said: Isn't the title spelled wrong? Shouldn't it be Uuumineko? xD |
| Hoooooolyyyyyyyyyyyyyyshhhhhhhh- All right, first episode I went "man, a whole episode and nobody's been killed yet". I mean, this IS "When they cry" we're talking about. ...I'm hooked now, I tell you. |
| [Insert Zeeky Boogy Doog here] |
| I dunno man, I was quite put off by the whole presentation of this episode :( Everything seemed so forced, there better be a good explanation for whatever is happening. I mean, wow they killed off 6 people in the second episode? That's just....I mean how many episodes does this series have? What. Are they gonna kill 5 more people in episode 3? I absolutely don't like the crazy eyes especially when it's coming from Maria - I think it's completely unnecessary. And I generally don't like Maria, her character is just so off. Either she's a really badly composed character or there better be a good reason for her to be like that. I mean one moment she's speaking in her childish way and then when she's reading the letter she speaks as if she's 10 years older. I'm really curious in seeing how this is going to carry on with 1/3 of the characters gone...*sighs*..we'll see~ |
robbydesu said: I dunno man, I was quite put off by the whole presentation of this episode :( Everything seemed so forced, there better be a good explanation for whatever is happening. I mean, wow they killed off 6 people in the second episode? That's just....I mean how many episodes does this series have? What. Are they gonna kill 5 more people in episode 3? I absolutely don't like the crazy eyes especially when it's coming from Maria - I think it's completely unnecessary. And I generally don't like Maria, her character is just so off. Either she's a really badly composed character or there better be a good reason for her to be like that. I mean one moment she's speaking in her childish way and then when she's reading the letter she speaks as if she's 10 years older. I'm really curious in seeing how this is going to carry on with 1/3 of the characters gone...*sighs*..we'll see~ This series is going to be 26 episodes long, 99.999% certain. Maria is supposed to be all normal and cute one minute then go all wacko serious crazy the next. She does that a lot. And if you want to know how many people are gonna die next episode.... |
| This episode was much better than the first. While the pacing is still fast compared to the VN, it was good. The only parts that bothered me was the ingot scene and the last scene. Too bad Goldenslaughterer didn't start from the beginning but I'm glad it was used. And Daisuke Ono's acting in the Drama CD was much better than it was in this episode, though that might have been because the shed scene was cut short. Still, gave the episode a 4/5. |
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| Whaaaat? They killed 6 people in one episode?! Only 12 left? Damn... I thought that they're gonna get killed one by one... O.o And Sayo died... T-T Still, It was a great episode! Much better than the first one *-* |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Ralonzo said: Maria = the Arnold Horshack of anime. uuuuu! uuuuu! Beatrice! uuuuuu! Mr Kotter! uuuuuuuuuuu! Isn't the title spelled wrong? Shouldn't it be Uuumineko? I saw what you did thar. |
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kameko14 said: bubbleboy352 said: 50 bucks says Krauss' (sp?) the bad guy. i don't care if he just died, this is anime. it'll happen somehow. PS. never played the game. no spoiler intented. but if i'm right; BAM! WHO CALLED IT?! Ehh I dunno.. something about Eva is really fishy to me. I'm putting my money on her being the bad one. But I've never read the VN so I don't really know. If you really want to know it's |
hiddenmoonlightJul 15, 2009 11:41 AM
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cr4sian_phil said: I saw what you did thar. That's just me acting uuuuful. |
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Ralonzo said: cr4sian_phil said: I saw what you did thar. That's just me acting uuuuful. All these puns are so uuuuuuninspired. |
GodOfSpeed said: Wow this episode is awesome, 1 of the best anime so far this year! Really scary....who was killed? Can't make up the faces...did Battler's parents get killed? Yes, I suppose it'd be a bit difficult to make out their faces. Krauss, Rudolph, Kyrie, Rosa, Gohda (the cook) and Shannon were killed, if I recall correctly. |
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| poor george his girl died damn!!! |
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