Why do people not seem to like Asuna very much?

jasonhan416 said:
I love everyone lol harem ending please lol

drinkbeer said:
i like both asuna and suguha. i like SAO too. i think SAO is underrated.

Create said:
she doesn't have the suguhas like Suguha

BloodRequiem said:
The site was rolled back due to being hacked. A lot of recent threads were lost.

YorozuyaGinSan said:
Both characters have less depth than Kirito's vagina

deathxempress said:
2131 favorites and not well liked?

Karura_Jiinsaru said:
As far as I know, not everyone with an MAL account dwell into the subforums, which is why you get to see the more vocal minority.

YorozuyaGinSan said:
Both characters have less depth than Kirito's vagina in GGO... That's enough reason to hate em. The only thing Asuna is good for takes place in the kitchen.

Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


Hear hear. The sheepIntelligent humans just rate SAO 10 and add one (or both) of the "blank slates/self-inserts" to their favourites list.

MagicFlier said:
The same people are just being loud about Asuna, there are people who are big fans of her out there, no point in joining in on pointless arguments to create drama

BloodRequiem said:


I fucking love you.

ssjokg said:

Listen we had this conversation before.What makes you think that you any better when it comes to FT?

Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


"The only thing Asuna is good for takes place in the kitchen"

But that was just a virtual kitchen..... She didn't cook for shitz

ssjokg said:

My point is why do you think you arent a sheepIntelligent human when you give FT a 10/10 because you love it and love all of its chars.
You arent any different from the SAO fans.The only difference is the series.

And seriously as of ch 74 the only one with actual char development in FT is Gray and maybe Loke.I was expecting some Lucy development some chapters before but everything ended in one fucking chapter.If I have to read 200 chapters to find actual char development then this doesnt exactly make it any better than SAO.

Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


Novel vs Battle Manga.



And its because I didn't jump on a bandwagon and start liking personality-less characters because I wished I could "be like that or have one like that"

ssjokg said:

"FAIRY TAIL DOES WHAT A "BATTLE-SHONEN" DOES. VERY WELL AS A MATTER OF FACT."
Thats like no reason.You just find it better than other battle shounen.
I think that OP is better than FT.I see you rated 10 but I dont see the same love for it.

But you jumped on the bandwagon and started hating on a series(and its fans) for no real reason.You are nothing like the critics than bash SAO, you just joined them to fit in.

And do you have any proof for what you say.Everybody likes Kirito and Asuna for that?Seriously?Grow up a bit.It's not like all the famous shounen series have the some people like that.

Aozumi said:
I prefer Asuna more than Suguha, why? because I'm not really into incest : P (even if I already know they're not true siblings, but it's the same for me)

Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


I love OP just as much, its just that nobody ever brings it up when they want to argue. They just bash FT.

If I wanted to fit in, wouldn't I have like joined the SAO love fest? I mean if I can like "garbage /FT" why couldn't I possibly love something as bland as this.

Proof? A huge chunk of the posts in this sub-forum not enough?

BloodRequiem said:


I fucking love you.

Takuan_Soho said:


Well written critique. I think your comments very appropriate for the animation, which does severely retard character development in generalr, and Asuna's in particular (and the episodes do have a lot of emotional whiplash as the animators jammed side stories into the front of the plot without attempting to smooth them ove. You also presented your criticism as your informed personal opinion, instead of a pronouncement from on high condemning those who think otherwise for having the audacity to think otherwise. Pity there isn't more people like you.

I am not going to take the short cut of saying that the novels are better for her development (which they are), but will only try to point out some things from the animation.

Though I agree that Asuna stood in awe in episode 9 (so did all the other players as well), I think you are overlooking the fact that it was Asuna who wouldn't watch the other players get slaughtered in that episode. She was the one who showed initial courage, not Kirito. That was the only time she showed "awe". I think you confused her "awe" in episode 12 with "amusement and tolerance" in that episode.

In episode 13 both before and during the final boss battle, Asuna was the one who both convinced Kirito to return to the front lines, saved him from the Centipede's scythe, and when he was gaping at the strength of the boss, again railed him to charge. Definitely no awe there, if anything she was the more imposing of the two.

As for cringing behind Kirito when her subordinate wouldn't leave, it wasn't fear, it was more about not wanting to deal with stupid male egos. But when push came to shove it was Asuna who ended the duel, showing her authority there. Immediately after that she admitted she felt hypocritical doing that because she was flaunting the rules she had enforced herself. So again, it wasn't weakness on her part, but self-awareness on hers.

Later when she rescued Kirito, she hesitated killing a real human being. That again is not a weakness. She didn't have Kirito's knowledge about what the man had done or that he had been a member of the "Laughing Coffins", so that she showed mercy is not a sin. Also, I don't think that Kirito "saved" her. She still had her speed and her full set of HP's. When Kirito did kill the man, she didn't say "you saved me", she said "its my fault" showing that what she was upset about that Kirito killed a human on her behalf.

A couple of your other complaints seem a bit, well petty. Saying that she "hesitated" to push the escape button when that was just the way it was animated to show "how close she was" seems a bit harsh. And as for calling her "submissive", not sure what she was supposed to do in her situation.

The hysterics about killing herself if Kirito were to die I do admit were over the top, but then again she knew that marriage to a guy she hated was in the cards, and suicide in Japan means a whole different thing than it does in the US. Not an excuse here, but a simple fact that I have unfortunately witnessed.

But in general I think there is more validity to your point than not watching the animation. I think it relied far too much on assuming that people read the light novels, because while the pieces were there, they certainly glossed over most of the character development. For instance in Episode 2, far from being Timid, Asuna was actually a bit of a hard ass not caring about other people. But one certainly wouldn't have picked that up by only watching the episode.

JDogg2K8 said:

Just, IMO, it all boils down to feeling that she's there to be a plot device for Kirito instead of a character in her own right.

ShinoAsada said:

So I conclude this with calling Asuna a plain overrated character who has no developments.

M11xStryker said:


However, in the second half of the post you are clearly commenting about the LN. I'm curious, have you read Aria in the Starless Night? I honestly thought that gave a great deal of character development to Asuna.

M11xStryker said:


I thought your post was pretty good, and I do agree that character development for Asuna in the Anime was severely lacking.
However, in the second half of the post you are clearly commenting about the LN. I'm curious, have you read Aria in the Starless Night? I honestly thought that gave a great deal of character development to Asuna. Mind you, that part is not found in Volume 1 or Volume 2.