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astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: IT was way way way worse than VN backstory and would not make anime onlies even give a shit about caster. You don't know that. Besides, at this point in time, they don't really need to. They don't really need to? WUT. When should they LOL? |
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CookingPriest said: astroprogs said: You don't know that. Besides, at this point in time, they don't really need to. They don't really need to? WUT. Caster serves her point in Shirou's story, which is all that matters. More information on her is good and all, but it doesn't really matter whether she's a cold blooded villain, or a victimized villain. At least IMO. |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: They don't really need to? WUT. Caster serves her point in Shirou's story, which is all that matters. More information on her is good and all, but it doesn't really matter whether she's a cold blooded villain, or a victimized villain. At least IMO. It matters for the quality of adaptation. If you can't make people CARE about Caster then she is nothing more than a filler fodder. IF you did not notice the "shirou's story" part is also missing too. Still laughing at random scifi tubes, lol. |
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CookingPriest said: It matters for the quality of adaptation. If you can't make people CARE about Caster then she is nothing more than a filler fodder. Alright, i can agree with that. CookingPriest said: IF you did not notice the "shirou's story" part is also missing too. Enhancing Caster's backstory doesn't enhance Shirou's story at all. |
| Honestly, if they handle a lot of the major moments well (like Illya and Berserker next episode) and at least nail Shirou's character in some form then I'd probably consider this is masterpiece. If not, I'll probably just say it was still a great anime, but did not meet my original expectations and will probably just give it a 9/10 and call it a day. |
| Well, I found it rather enjoyable. Caster's background was a very boring part in the VN as well so I'm satisfied with the amount of time they used on it and it at least had a few decent scenes and we could hear some Kirei voice, and the original scenes near the end were in my opinion good. I really don't see the complaints about stereotype muslims or whatnot, couldn't see that at all. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: It matters for the quality of adaptation. If you can't make people CARE about Caster then she is nothing more than a filler fodder. Alright, i can agree with that. CookingPriest said: IF you did not notice the "shirou's story" part is also missing too. Enhancing Caster's backstory doesn't enhance Shirou's story at all. It enhances the quality of adaptation. If they can make them CARE about Caster's plotline, they might actually pay attention to meaning of it. If they can't then just like with Shirou's depth, they won't give a shit. Caster was such a fascinating gray morality character in the VN with one of best done backstories possible. She is at least ~20% of what made UBW the best route. Without it, everything that comes will be cliche as fuck. |
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LoomyTheBrew said: Honestly, if they handle a lot of the major moments well (like Illya and Berserker next episode) and at least nail Shirou's character in some form then I'd probably consider this is masterpiece. If not, I'll probably just say it was still a great anime, but did not meet my original expectations and will probably just give it a 9/10 and call it a day. Inb4: "How can you say that? 'Obviously' you are just deluded by your 'HYYYYPE'!" |
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| https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/123877316#p123879088 it's a copy pasta now  |
Pu55yDestr0yerApr 11, 2015 10:07 AM
| BAN ME |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: It matters for the quality of adaptation. If you can't make people CARE about Caster then she is nothing more than a filler fodder. Alright, i can agree with that. Then again I don't even start caring about Caster until |
astroprogs said: - Right, and your sig was the best part of the episode. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
Jtiger987 said: Fai is actually Archer. Fai = Archer = Miura Didn't you know? The secret's already out. All hope is lost guys.  |
ijuka said: we could hear some Kirei voice This was all that was needed. Describing the positives of the show becomes superfluous after this. |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
Grey-Zone said: LoomyTheBrew said: Honestly, if they handle a lot of the major moments well (like Illya and Berserker next episode) and at least nail Shirou's character in some form then I'd probably consider this is masterpiece. If not, I'll probably just say it was still a great anime, but did not meet my original expectations and will probably just give it a 9/10 and call it a day. Inb4: "How can you say that? 'Obviously' you are just deluded by your 'HYYYYPE'!" Don't worry, I have Avalon to protect me! ;) |
| -Medea stuff is always good. -LOL SHINJI. -Illya's maids aka Leysritt and Sella. D: -Gilgamesh stuff is always good.  Okay episode but for some reason, it's worse than the last one. |
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| Lol, catching up with this thread is much longer than watching the episode. It was a mistake to try this. Anyway, after the previous one, this episode seems really slow. Like nothing happened except Shirou and Rin getting closer to Illya's Castle and Gil getting closer to fight with Berserker. Neither of which was shown in the VN as I remember. So, almost completely a filler episode (except the dialogue with Rin in the very beginning). But. Still very well made. Caster backstory feels fresh. Kirei's "Give it to the Lancer's master, huh?" face was full of yuetsu, and Shinji finally manages to be at least a bit funny. Ufo also tries to show more Illya (which is always good), and that comedy/gore contrast is surely good as an anti-entropy source of energy. And it seems that Miura actually listens to what Fai says. Previous episode had a long monologue, and today Rin rolls on the ground instead of Shirou, lol. |
| Sooooooo, Fai hates it and thinks it was pointless and a complete waste? I'm prepared to be entertained. |
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whatstaunt said: Because he's not Shiki?Why didnt Shinji just rape sella and leysritt into submission? |
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FlamepriesT said: Jtiger987 said: Fai is actually Archer. Fai = Archer = Miura Didn't you know? The secret's already out. All hope is lost guys. Implying there was hope to begin with. Amusing. ANGRY2011 said: Sooooooo, Fai hates it and thinks it was pointless and a complete waste? I'm prepared to be entertained. Meatdoll Loli! Yes, this whole fiasco is simply another act in this play we call life in our Fair Lands. Enjoy some wine while you still can. |
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ZeroDragon said: Meatdoll Loli! Yes, this whole fiasco is simply another act in this play we call life in our Fair Lands. Enjoy some wine while you still can. Always here to drink it up! This episode is really just a holding pattern for me anyway. Next week's episode has the most influence over my outlook for the rest of show. |
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ijuka said: astroprogs said: - Right, and your sig was the best part of the episode. ... I hate you. |
ZeroDragon said: This f***ing conspiracy damn it! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
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| Kirei has rid MAL of salt. Rejoice! http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=66842 |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
Enjoy getting reported. |
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astroprogs said: ijuka said: Right, and your sig was the best part of the episode. ... I hate you. W why? It was gorgeous. That specific animation. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
CookingPriest said: Enjoy getting reported. Creator is still the alpha. |
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CookingPriest said: Welp...This episode could be described as "Rushing continues or Holy Pointless Filler Batman".... - Caster's backstory doe snot even fit the description of "abridged". It literally is NOT THERE. None of her characterization nor parts that would make us care about. Instead we get. - Holy Casual Racism Batman. Yay for a misogynist muslim with a typical harem. What the fuck Miura. And of course... - Servant LEvel Shinji. Servant Level Shinji. Servant Level Shinji. I can't stop fucking laughing at this bs. xD well this confirms this as less canon than Prillya. - And the spoilers of unfit comedic timing seconds from gore were correct. Well I have no hope for fitting emotional scenes after this now. Who the fuck places a comedic gag seconds before beheading and gore? No one sane for sure. The tone shift were jarring and amateurish - Caster flashbacks were utterly weak and of course all of hr past was cut and we got to put up with racist portrayal of unspecified arabian/muslim person. Of course the only POC in the show is a dick. Useless and rushed filler episode. Most of it - anime original content. Most of anime original content - useless. And none of stuff that mattered was adapted. This literally felt like written and directed by five year old because who the hell puts COMEDY GAGS that close to "Srs" gore? WHO? When the only good thing in the episode was THE MOST HATED CHARACTER IN WHOLE FRANCHISE(Shinji) you know it was a trainwreck. But HEY ! AT least we got THE ONLY REAL TRUE CANON RIN MOMENT IN WHOLE SHOW SO FAR, where Rin, LE GASP! IS not perfect and fucks up majorily. ...Evil Muslims and Servant Level Shinji........................I think I will go insane from this shit.... 2/5 lel at people whining about racism. 21st century is so boring. I liked the episode in general. For a change we got to see how Caster ended up with a school teacher for a master. And who whines about comedy gags being followed by brutality? Who whines about lack of sanity in a story about a bloody war between mages? Who writes these critiques? |
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Feaor said: whatstaunt said: Because he's not Shiki?Why didnt Shinji just rape sella and leysritt into submission? Correct. Shiki doesn't need reasons to rape someone. ijuka said: astroprogs said: ... I hate you. W why? It was gorgeous. That specific animation. The actual content wasn't though :'( |
damastah said: CookingPriest said: Enjoy getting reported. Creator is still the alpha. Where is the fucking worm? I am hardly capable of believing that you can boot the club creator like that. |
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| We better stay on topic btw guys, lest we incur le wrath of le staff. |
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damastah said: We better stay on topic btw guys, lest we incur le wrath of le staff. I don't care. A random pisspoor club admin should not be able to takeover a club. Waiting for Worm to fix this shit or at least make new cluba nd not add any new admins. |
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| By the way, opening post clearly stated NO COMPARISONS TO VN. |
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CookingPriest said: damastah said: We better stay on topic btw guys, lest we incur le wrath of le staff. I don't care. Okay then, good luck. :/ @Grey-Zone -I for one haven't compared anything to VN in THIS thread. |
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Grey-Zone said: By the way, opening post clearly stated NO COMPARISONS TO VN. Yea, I guess, but that's hardly realistic, is it? It is one thing to ban talking about content from the VN past this episode's continuity, spoilers, etc. But to ban comparing an adaptation to the source? That's silly. |
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CookingPriest said: damastah said: We better stay on topic btw guys, lest we incur le wrath of le staff. I don't care. A random pisspoor club admin should not be able to takeover a club. Waiting for Worm to fix this shit or at least make new cluba nd not add any new admins. I can't even remember who he made admins randomly a day or so ago. |
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ANGRY2011 said: Grey-Zone said: By the way, opening post clearly stated NO COMPARISONS TO VN. Yea, I guess, but that's hardly realistic, is it? It is one thing to ban talking about content from the VN past this episode's continuity, spoilers, etc. But to ban comparing an adaptation to the source? That's silly. Their point is that apparently, comparisons to VN = spoilers, even though that isn't necessarily the case. |
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| All is better than a club where opions that are not popular in the "great dictator's opinion" will get changed or deleted. Also: Luna_ said: [b]THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION THREAD. DO NOT DISCUSS THE VISUAL NOVEL BEYOND THIS EPISODE. - This thread is only about this episode / this anime. If you want to discuss (future) events in the VN or Fate/Zero, compare the anime with the VN or Fate/Zero etc. please use separate threads. - Do not spam in this thread. This isn't a chat thread or your twitter. - Do not ask where to watch this episode or post links to the episode. - Trolling/baiting/abuse/harassment will not be tolerated. For more information see the Anime Series Episode Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.[/b] We DO have a "seperate thread" for that, which is: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1370090 |
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nocorras said: CookingPriest said: I don't care. A random pisspoor club admin should not be able to takeover a club. Waiting for Worm to fix this shit or at least make new cluba nd not add any new admins. I can't even remember who he made admins randomly a day or so ago. You, me and Wrong. |
Stev said: ayy lmao |
damastah said: ANGRY2011 said: Yea, I guess, but that's hardly realistic, is it? It is one thing to ban talking about content from the VN past this episode's continuity, spoilers, etc. But to ban comparing an adaptation to the source? That's silly. Their point is that apparently, comparisons to VN = spoilers, even though that isn't necessarily the case. Eh, inefficient. Most of the people who bother to actually discuss the VN are pretty decent with spoilers anyway around here, or the rest of us police them. |
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| Sorry guys. Gave him admin powers just to see if he'll act childishly and do what he complained about to us a few days back. He didn't let us down, it seems. Making new club now. |
| Oh wow they let Shirou come up with the plan! |
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ANGRY2011 said: damastah said: Their point is that apparently, comparisons to VN = spoilers, even though that isn't necessarily the case. Eh, inefficient. Most of the people who bother to actually discuss the VN are pretty decent with spoilers anyway around here, or the rest of us police them. Tell that to the staff I guess. :/ |
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| Not much to add about this episode that hasn't already been said - it was terrible on every front. Even the visuals were below the standard. |
GuilekApr 11, 2015 10:51 AM
Guileki said: no |
Pu55yDestr0yerApr 11, 2015 10:47 AM
| BAN ME |
Guilek said: You can. It is called and there are rumors of ufo planning to adapt some part of it. |
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