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I think it was mentioned before but Ivy seems to be naming her tamed pets after the word 'sky' or 'heavens'
She named her slime 'sora' (nihongo)
She named the andrala (the panther thing) as 'ciel' (french)
I guess the next one she will tame might be named 'himmel' (deutsch) or probably 'oranos' (greek)
the last few episodes have been pretty solid. after an interesting first episode, i definitely started losing interest over the next couple.
that suppression good being concerned for her/him was nice. they seem like good people. my only concern at the moment is that her panther stays out of danger from these groups/adventurers
tekkenshu7 said: I think it was mentioned before but Ivy seems to be naming her tamed pets after the word 'sky' or 'heavens'
She named her slime 'sora' (nihongo)
She named the andrala (the panther thing) as 'ciel' (french)
I guess the next one she will tame might be named 'himmel' (deutsch) or probably 'oranos' (greek)
Why would you say “Japanese” in Japanese and not “French” in French? (Weeb)
Scary first half but we got a sweet last half.
Ivy finally reached another place with kind-hearted people.
Now, I wonder what the next episode will be, especially since, there's a mysterious character from the first half.
Someone hugged Ivy, and thankfully, he got some bonkers or I would've done it myself... π
I need more adventures of Ivy. π₯²
P.S. The animation was kinda icky but still decent.
ASinfulPersonageFeb 23, 2024 9:39 PM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
I am not sure how they translated it for the English books from Seven Seas but the Wikipedia article has it as Latroa. So, people are definitely having a lot of fun with trying to write out his name in English. If one is trying to be close without using the romanji version of the katakana name, it would be Latrua, Ratrua, Latlua, Ratlua, or some similar variation.
Then you have me randomly referring to him as Rattler here and there because that is how he initially come across when I first read the JP LN. You can ignore my Rattler as it is not correct and more of a fond name that I have for him.
did ivy finally find a party that she can adventure with or even stick around longer with? and it never fails, fireworks made an appearance in this episode too lol
Continuing the journey to Otolwa, Ivy gets a notification that Sora has 'evolved' after healing Ciel, but in what way? And the nonoshi...are they as fearsome as she thought?
Ivy's traps still fail to catch nonoshi, though an ominous presence catches to her and Ciel dispels the miasma, thus saving her. But the danger is not over, as ogres rage towards her, and a 'suppresion squad' adventurer party comes to her aid, and a seemingly powerful group at that as the Blazing Sword. Escorting her back to their campbase, they have a space for her, and one of them, Lattrua, despite having a 3-star cooking class, he cannot cook food, so that leaves the job to Ivy to cook a decent meal, to everyone's delight. Though Lattrua mistaking Ivy for a boy...he sure got his deserved beating.
Still though, it's up to Ivy to improve her skills, they can only guide her as much.
Continuing the journey to Otolwa, Ivy gets a notification that Sora has 'evolved' after healing Ciel, but in what way? And the nonoshi...are they as fearsome as she thought?
Ivy's traps still fail to catch nonoshi, though an ominous presence catches to her and Ciel dispels the miasma, thus saving her. But the danger is not over, as ogres rage towards her, and a 'suppresion squad' adventurer party comes to her aid, and a seemingly powerful group at that as the Blazing Sword. Escorting her back to their campbase, they have a space for her, and one of them, Lattrua, despite having a 3-star cooking class, he cannot cook food, so that leaves the job to Ivy to cook a decent meal, to everyone's delight. Though Lattrua mistaking Ivy for a boy...he sure got his deserved beating.
Still though, it's up to Ivy to improve her skills, they can only guide her as much.
KANLen09 said: Lattrua, despite having a 3-star cooking class, he cannot cook food, so that leaves the job to Ivy to cook a decent meal, to everyone's delight. Though Lattrua mistaking Ivy for a boy...he sure got his deserved beating.
Lattrua has a 3-star fire skill, not the cooking, that's why he can't cook, he only grills an burns everything. And Ivy is supposed to be mistaken for a boy... like that's the point and her preferred disguise, so it's good everyone sees her as such, the beating was for the entirely different reason, probably just for getting so touchy-feely.
Hmm. The first time I am slightly disappointed with an episode. I enjoyed it but there were a lot of changes that I did not particularly like. I will go over those in the LN comparison section.
Ominous presence and a watcher from afar... I have to wonder if the watcher even noticed the Adandala... would be hyper stupid to attack someone who seemed to be close to one...
We got some action that felt odd compared to the rest of the series animation. It was a little rough and choppy. This anime shines when it takes things a bit slower vs continuous action like we saw with the ogre chase. Short, precise action is better I think.
We finally get to meet the Flaming Sword members and Meela. They should be familiar from the OP as the dudes around her. Well intentioned if awkward dudes so far. Rattler/Ratlua especially feels like the impulsive one of the group.
One thing hinted at here was the lack of use of herbs to make food more palatable. I'm sure people with the cooking skill or similar do use herbs and spices but adventurers in the field probably stick to basic vegetables, meat, and salt/pepper. Roast it over the fire and done. If it is gamey meat, yeah, you get funky tastes. Big dudes eating funky meat for weeks at a time in the forest vs Ivy pulling out some cooking knowledge from her past life. Yeah, they gonna fall hard.
The ending scene with the group talking about Ivy is also welcome. This series continues to show that the adults just don't take things for granted and actually think about the events in that occur around them and Ivy's predicament.
For the aura/sense thing Ivy does, not really spoilers but not also information not explicitly stated in the anime yet either:
Magic sense is a basic thing adventures know. It's a basic survival skill but most people only hone it enough to tell people, animals, and monsters apart in the wild. Higher rank adventures are pretty good at both pinpointing and hiding auras. Everything with magic has an aura, including humans and the type/feeling of the aura changes based on mood or intent. Magic sense doesn't need mana to use but if one runs out of mana, one cannot sense until they recover some basic level of mana.
Because Ivy is so used to running away, her magic sense is extremely sensitive as a result. A sad bonus from having to run for most of her life. Her being able to sense an unpleasant and almost evil aura, visualized for us viewers, is well within her capabilities. As she basically lived for 3 years in the woods, hiding, she is also good at hiding her own aura.
LN Differences time!
Okay, this episode is the furthest away from the source material and not in a good way. I am a fan of adapting things with thought and care put into the medium. As long as the story is close enough and as long as the changes are better for the medium, I am happy with changes.
First big change was the entire first half of the episode. Ivy never was attacked by ogres. Ciel never fell off a cliff with one. Ivy was never watched by a shadowy figure in the woods before she met the Flaming Sword team. In the LN, it was a much more peaceful meeting. Ivy was wandering through the woods with Ciel when she sensed a lot of adventures, with one group near her location. She asked Ciel to hide and showed herself to the Flaming Sword members at that time. Same big camp with the intent to hunt ogres but not the action packed intro we got here.
Then the LN and anime mostly match up in terms of events. Rattler gets cooking duty, they enjoy Ivy's cooking. There were no fireworks and we never learned that Rattler had a fire based skill in the LN.
For gripes. Ciel. Ciel is literally a runt of one of the top 7 most powerful monsters in the known world. Ogres are meat to Adandalas. Ogres would not attack an Adandala because even a runt could wipe out the entire group in moments. The anime really powered down best cat.
The shadowy figure appearing now is somewhat fine except for the fact that Ciel was present at the time. Ciel, as noted above, is absurdly dangerous. Given who the shadowy figure is (we don't know who exactly at this point but it is one of two/three people and I have a bet on exactly who), yeah, no, Adandala guard = dead cloaked person. Both LN Ivy and Ciel would have noticed said person and reacted accordingly. Ivy hiding and Ciel attacking.
I would have preferred the calmer approach as shown in the LN and Manga for this one rather than the bombastic fireworks we got. Ivy is super careful in the LN and Ciel is a natural walking monster deterrent. Monsters do not attack or come near an Adandala if they can help it. Adandala are well known to monsters to be fighting junkies. They really did best cat dirty.
after reading the manga a few months ago, it was strange (and honestly a bit forced even) to see the confrontation with the ogres, knowing it wasn't really needed to the plot. They could have been more focused on the "feeling intent of people" of Ivy there.
Hmm. The first time I am slightly disappointed with an episode. I enjoyed it but there were a lot of changes that I did not particularly like. I will go over those in the LN comparison section.
Ominous presence and a watcher from afar... I have to wonder if the watcher even noticed the Adandala... would be hyper stupid to attack someone who seemed to be close to one...
We got some action that felt odd compared to the rest of the series animation. It was a little rough and choppy. This anime shines when it takes things a bit slower vs continuous action like we saw with the ogre chase. Short, precise action is better I think.
We finally get to meet the Flaming Sword members and Meela. They should be familiar from the OP as the dudes around her. Well intentioned if awkward dudes so far. Rattler/Ratlua especially feels like the impulsive one of the group.
One thing hinted at here was the lack of use of herbs to make food more palatable. I'm sure people with the cooking skill or similar do use herbs and spices but adventurers in the field probably stick to basic vegetables, meat, and salt/pepper. Roast it over the fire and done. If it is gamey meat, yeah, you get funky tastes. Big dudes eating funky meat for weeks at a time in the forest vs Ivy pulling out some cooking knowledge from her past life. Yeah, they gonna fall hard.
The ending scene with the group talking about Ivy is also welcome. This series continues to show that the adults just don't take things for granted and actually think about the events in that occur around them and Ivy's predicament.
For the aura/sense thing Ivy does, not really spoilers but not also information not explicitly stated in the anime yet either:
Magic sense is a basic thing adventures know. It's a basic survival skill but most people only hone it enough to tell people, animals, and monsters apart in the wild. Higher rank adventures are pretty good at both pinpointing and hiding auras. Everything with magic has an aura, including humans and the type/feeling of the aura changes based on mood or intent. Magic sense doesn't need mana to use but if one runs out of mana, one cannot sense until they recover some basic level of mana.
Because Ivy is so used to running away, her magic sense is extremely sensitive as a result. A sad bonus from having to run for most of her life. Her being able to sense an unpleasant and almost evil aura, visualized for us viewers, is well within her capabilities. As she basically lived for 3 years in the woods, hiding, she is also good at hiding her own aura.
LN Differences time!
Okay, this episode is the furthest away from the source material and not in a good way. I am a fan of adapting things with thought and care put into the medium. As long as the story is close enough and as long as the changes are better for the medium, I am happy with changes.
First big change was the entire first half of the episode. Ivy never was attacked by ogres. Ciel never fell off a cliff with one. Ivy was never watched by a shadowy figure in the woods before she met the Flaming Sword team. In the LN, it was a much more peaceful meeting. Ivy was wandering through the woods with Ciel when she sensed a lot of adventures, with one group near her location. She asked Ciel to hide and showed herself to the Flaming Sword members at that time. Same big camp with the intent to hunt ogres but not the action packed intro we got here.
Then the LN and anime mostly match up in terms of events. Rattler gets cooking duty, they enjoy Ivy's cooking. There were no fireworks and we never learned that Rattler had a fire based skill in the LN.
For gripes. Ciel. Ciel is literally a runt of one of the top 7 most powerful monsters in the known world. Ogres are meat to Adandalas. Ogres would not attack an Adandala because even a runt could wipe out the entire group in moments. The anime really powered down best cat.
The shadowy figure appearing now is somewhat fine except for the fact that Ciel was present at the time. Ciel, as noted above, is absurdly dangerous. Given who the shadowy figure is (we don't know who exactly at this point but it is one of two/three people and I have a bet on exactly who), yeah, no, Adandala guard = dead cloaked person. Both LN Ivy and Ciel would have noticed said person and reacted accordingly. Ivy hiding and Ciel attacking.
I would have preferred the calmer approach as shown in the LN and Manga for this one rather than the bombastic fireworks we got. Ivy is super careful in the LN and Ciel is a natural walking monster deterrent. Monsters do not attack or come near an Adandala if they can help it. Adandala are well known to monsters to be fighting junkies. They really did best cat dirty.
@Callidin I have a question about one thing if you don't mind answering.
I have read the manga until latest chapter and I noticed that shady women there is called Mira, and in anime it is Meela. How is she named in LN as this is no small change?
And thank you for explaining the differences, I got a feeling from manga that Ciel is quit powerful but seems like they turned her into big cat in anime.
@Callidin I have a question about one thing if you don't mind answering.
I have read the manga until latest chapter and I noticed that shady women there is called Mira, and in anime it is Meela. How is she named in LN as this is no small change?
And thank you for explaining the differences, I got a feeling from manga that Ciel is quit powerful but seems like they turned her into big cat in anime.
When it comes to how she is officially named in the English translations, I may not be as much help as to the decision making they made, but I can give the reasons why it is different.
So, for Meela/Mira/Miira. All technically could work, and it just depends on the translator or the author picking one. It is not uncommon to see different spellings across different media or publishers of the same work. For example, if Seven Seas does the LN and someone else did the manga, names may be spelled differently as a result.
When it comes to how she is officially named in the English translations, I may not be as much help as to the decision making they made, but I can give the reasons why it is different.
So, for Meela/Mira/Miira. All technically could work, and it just depends on the translator or the author picking one. It is not uncommon to see different spellings across different media or publishers of the same work. For example, if Seven Seas does the LN and someone else did the manga, names may be spelled differently as a result.
Animation felt a little rough this week, but still another great episode.
It hurt a little when the leader noticed how anxious Ivy got when she was told to leave the dishes to others. As nice it is to see Ivy work hard and become independent, I'm reminded that her attitude was necessary for survival and comes from a really painful experience.
Also it felt like Dungeon Meshi all of a sudden, which is welcome.
looks like the new adventurers who found Ivy is a much better folks that might become true loyal companions of Ivy! they even noticed that there's something going-on concerning Ivy's reactions/attitude to them (cuz of her harsh past y'know) ...very nice ep!
5/5!
One interesting thing I noticed about that thing (person?) that was stalking Ivy early in the episode: even though Ivy wanted nothing to do with it and its overwhelming aura, Sora didn't have his usual little freakout whenever danger is present. Sora will start going nuts when an alcohol smuggler passes by but was not phased by the intimidating entity? I cannot help but think that is not an accident. (I guess LN readers would know for sure.)
the new episode was nice and wholesome im enjoying the series
The adventures of Sora,ivg and ciel is quite entertaining and wholesome
one of the best animes this season
I started this series very late into the season, late last week around when episode seven was set to air, so almost two-thirds of the way through the season, but I've been enjoying much of it for the most part.
However, these past two episodes felt like the weakest ones so far to me. Especially this last one. This was pretty easily and handily my least favorite episode of the seven. I appreciated the semi-slower introduction to Femicia's/Ivy's world in episodes one and two when it was initially just her, then discovering her new rare slime, and the two of them surviving in the forest on the outskirts of civilization at the village's edge. Seemed oddly tranquil, mellow, and relaxing in a good way despite the quite precarious life or death situation she was in the whole time. A character in a newer fantasy series and especially one which is still technically an isekai actually being weak in practice instead of just in name and having to forage and essentially medieval dumpster dive in the woods just to eat and live, coupled with some novel use of the isekai concept (split consciousness of the past life nestled in her brain and/or soul making the isekai'd person feel like a secondary support character even faceless and offscreen instead of the main PoV character, whereas usually it feels like the new reincarnated person in the non-Earth world it's set in is just like a costume or skin for them to don while their core is still original Japanese person; Ivy is her own person).
Then the third episode came and that's the one which is of course going to divide the audience and drive some people away, but I loved it. Still thought it was the best one before or since, and I really unexpectedly thoroughly enjoyed those first two episodes, so that's saying something. It (the third episode) was maddening and disgusting, but it felt viscerally realistic and I always love that balance with the cute and snuggly elements, because it's true to life which always has both light and dark pervading everywhere in some way or another, so always makes the setting and characters of a series feel vivid and organic to me. Sure, the abrupt about-face and "heel turn" of immediate family members treating their own kin, the littlest and previously most protected and doted on daughter to boot, like vermin overnight can seem so extreme and out of left-field as to be too cartoonish/anime-ish, but where any subtle notes of characterization and minor beats scene by scene were missed out on or skipped over, I just chalk that up to unfortunate pacing issues and a need to cram a lot of these series into 11 - 13 episode one-cour packages which often create those artistic casualties. I would still rather have some of the drama and tumult portrayed than none at all even if the series in its current form isn't sufficiently long enough and/or they simply don't possess the writing chops to do it full and proper narrative justice. It's still interesting to include.
And then the next two episodes, while probably not as great as the first three, I thought were still proceeding in the right direction. I did in particular relish those lowlife thug scam artist faux-adventurers or corrupt adventurers being taken down toward the end of episode five. And the tent or new home was a nice acquisition and it's good to see the money and item management (magic bags).
But yeah, I just found these last two underwhelming and something of a letdown. As I said, mostly this episode seven. I think it has to do with starting to get the sense that she might be moving too many places too quickly and feeling like we're going to be introduced to some kind of one-off, one-note characters who mainly stick around for only like an episode or two. I'm never a fan of that structure. It started to remind me a little too much of By the Grace of the Gods season 2 (another isekai involving slimes and taming), and that's not good company to keep. The first season would be fine, but please show, don't go the route of the second. Also started to feel like things were quickly snowballing into becoming too easy - copious sums of money suddenly falling into her lap, in addition to the powerful and protective monster friends she's gained now increasingly every human - or the majority - being also protective of her and extremely nice, courteous, well-intentioned, etc. It started to feel like it was devolving a bit into another one of those isekai where the main character is just praised and worshipped by strangers left and right the second they encounter them. That's also one of the largest contributing factors behind what really soured me on the direction they went with By the Grace of the Gods.
That fortune teller was right on the money with telling Ivy to go to that place she's going to, she meeting so many nice caring people. I think the story made the right choice in having Ivy disguise herself as a boy, otherwise I would have been wondering if everybody was just being so nice to her because she was a girl, but since everybody believes she's a boy that doesn't apply.
I do think it's starting to get negligent that Ivy's not telling anybody about Ciel, since it could lead to random people encountering Ciel and getting into a fight because the humans don't know Ciel's not a threat to them. Like I don't know the harm in just telling people, and why she's being so secretive. Even if nobody believes her, should they actually encounter Ciel they'll know there's a possibility a fight might not be necessary. It may bring unwanted attention onto Ivy, but that's better than the possible alternative.
I don't understand why ciel is always left alone. People are aware of the tamer skill so wouldn't it make sense that tamers would have familiars around them? All he examples we've seen are just slimes.
Was, this EP outsourced? The EP quality seems very different from previous EPs (as in lower quality).
Alright, we met Raltua & Co. this EP, so we've pretty much started the 1st arc of the series (if you didn't consider previous EPs as arc that is). Considering this is EP7 out of 12, it's safe to say that the season would end with
Otorwa child slaver org extermination
. Well, duh, ofc it'd end with that. I mean what else can it end on, right?
uncleqrow said: Was, this EP outsourced? The EP quality seems very different from previous EPs (as in lower quality).
I noticed that too (that's why I came to check the episode discussion). The first episode went needlessly hard with the tumbling down the hills animation (why even bother animating that scene, if it was even in the source material at all), and then there's this episode which uses scrolling backgrounds for Ivy running. Not to mention that something constantly feels off visually in this episode.
I looked it up, and this is the only episode where there isn't an episode director credited. Which is weird but leads to more questions than answers.
Ciel saves Ivy from a mysterious foggy aura that approaches her in the forest; They encounter a large demon monster on the hillside and Ciel fights it while more descend on Ivy. Ivy runs away into a forest of dead trees and hanging scarecrows; The demon monsters are distracted by Lattrua's flame attack.
Lattrua's party is known as the suppression squad who are known to hunt down monsters. Seems like Ivy got caught in a trap they set for the demon monsters but all is well now that they welcome her into their party.
She begins a cooking lesson with Lattrua and they make a very good looking strew; The other adventurers in the Suppression squad are concerned for Ivy. - So far it's panning out more toward the adventure side so we are seeing many random encounters and this just so happened to be one of them. It's a light hearted on with bonding over cooking this episode