The Executioner and Her Way of Life
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Froz3npancake said: I won't lie this episode made me really question the plot entirely, I don't really get why Menou would oppose them when she was basically raised alongside the church to be a villian the whole time. They are aware they are not the good guys and now this somehow completely turned things on it's head. It was pretty clear that the powers are bad as well and it was just protective matter of the world, but I don't think them taking the powers would really have someone you basically brainwashed into working with you, turn on you like that. just cuz there's one archbishop is corrupted due to old age, it doesnt mean the whole or everyone in the church is also as corrupted as archbishop orwell you know based on the Hierarchy of the church alone, we all know archbishop doesn't lead the church there are many archbishops, above em there are still many cardinals and then lastly the pope archbishop orwell Was a hero, she did Save many people in her prime or when she was younger or when she's not as old as now but everything changed when death started to creep on her and she's starting ro lose herself due to old age, this is the very definition of "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" |
Lab_Rat_0978Apr 29, 2022 5:26 PM
Sigmar-Unberogen said: Hoh... And I wondered what kind of plot-twist would prevent Akari's death. First, I thought she would turn back time again suddenly, but we got a better one! Turns out the Church is bunch of evildoers. (This immediately explains Why Menou is dead in the OP). -_- Damn... Anime does love turning the church into a den of fanatics and evildoers... Anyways, now we see a window in Akari's and Menou's relationship. Though it's still hard to guess how Menou and Akari can survive here without some miracle or deus-ex first. I'll hope for Akari to reverse time again (just like previously people will likely realize that time was reversed). Maybe the time will be reversed to the moment Menou still had her book? This way the two may escape together somehow. It's really interesting how the story will go from now on though. I mean, will Menou tell Akari the truth? Menou will surely be hurt to realize she's been lied to - the last moment, and was even led to her death with a fake smile... Anyways, what will the 4 main characters do now? It seems like they will have to fight both the nobility and the church! Is there a place to run to? Any allies? Most important part though - The Isekaid people! - Are they really as dangerous as we were told? Now that we know the Church is bunch of assholes, maybe the Isekai'd people aren't actually some "ticking bombs?" Of course, it's possible that some Isekai'd people may go crazy (just like any "normal" human is capable of doing evil shit). BUT, it's also highly likely that the Isekai'd people go crazy after the Church manipulates them or experiments on them or something!!! We now learned that the Church can erase personalities!!! That's a huge No-No! Now I already suspect that the 4 great errors happened because some dumbass tryed to manipulate the Isekai'd people and failed and this resulted in them going berserk and almost destroying a planet. Since the main villain here wants to exploit Akari, it's possible that exploitations of Isekai'd people was done in the past too (The king obviously did the same thing too, so I won't be surprised if that's the case. Actually, I'll be hoping that that's the case!). its just one archbishop tho, its too early to assume that "the chruch is bad" based on the Hierarchy of the church alone, we all know archbishops are not the leader of the church. there are still cardinals and then the pope yes, the lost ones are dangerous as hell but ofc there will be some people who manipulate or exploit the power of the lost ones the summoners and the lost ones cant be separated after all, each of these summoners obviously must have had some agendas beforehand thats exactly why they say, "the 4 major human errors" and not the "the 4 major lost one errors" right? |
| Another great episode! While the "twist" of the church (or at least Orwell's part) being evil was extremely obvious due to meta knowledge we have (otherwise it was well hidden for anyone not aware of tropes honestly) the execution of it was very nice. The purpose why Orwell wants to do this makes sense and she didn't miss this incredible opportunity that showed up to her with Akari's Pure Concept. How she handled the whole plan was very smart as well, completely fooling Menou with her fake kindness (Menou needs to learn a lesson or two from her!) While splitting her from her partner with this bait mission and getting Akari exactly where she wanted without raising suspicion. I'm sure that everything would have gone perfectly smoothly for her if the very perceptive Ashuna didn't end up in the worst possible place for Orwell, breaking the communication block placed where Momo was... and, well, despite that she still has everything under control by the end of the episode. I also really want to mention how much I love the Momo and Ashura interactons, their banter is too freaking funny! Really good contrast of personalities and it's cool to see how despite their different roles they still work together when needed. Very curious to see how the girls manage to get out of this big predicament, next Friday can't come soon enough. |
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| Akari is super thirsty here. I don't get it why some say that this isn't yuri. Momo clearly is lesbian and Akari is full on Menou for some reason. |
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| Well, this is quite disappointing. I thought old hag could be an interesting morally questionable villain, but now she's just another clearly evil villain. |
EdgyLord666 said: Well, this is quite disappointing. I thought old hag could be an interesting morally questionable villain, but now she's just another clearly evil villain. she's an interesting morally questionable villain tho she's a former hero who fell from grace due to old age she saved numerous people in the past, what's wrong with her killing mere dozens of people then? ever heard of the law of equivalent exchange? |
| You sly dog! You got me monologuing! I can't believe it. Of course, a moustache twriling villian could only make a big "here I am" gesture with a long monologue while absolutely nothing happens. Shows like these use the "talking is a free action" trope as the core of infodumping and presenting plot twists or just simple story passages. Meh, the whole materializing spells thru books and magically RGB staffs feel quite cheap (not that the cheap-o blood summons look any more enticing anyway) making the pseudo action scenes less interesting than they already are. Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: Well, this is quite disappointing. I thought old hag could be an interesting morally questionable villain, but now she's just another clearly evil villain. she's an interesting morally questionable villain tho she's a former hero who fell from grace due to old age she saved numerous people in the past, what's wrong with her killing mere dozens of people then? ever heard of the law of equivalent exchange? So it's basically a hero that lived long enough to become the villian. Wow. talk about cliches. Someone award this show with a gold star and a razzie syndrome award. |
| It's a good unfold of the story. Especially, the 30 seconds of direction starting with the incoming message through the bible was very well. The vivid zoom up of the archbishop's bloodshot eye froze the air. The following BGM for the combat reminded me of the rapid turn of events of "Code Geass". |
| Alright finally the twist we saw coming. It was cool but I hope there's more to it. |
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| After last week's slower episode, this episode was really good. I mean we all expected a turning point. I am interested in the next episode since we will receive much-needed information about where the rest of the story will be headed. Altho the church being evil isn't the most surprising thing. Considering all the talk about Flare has been past reflective. If she is dead I do wonder if the Archbishop had something to do with it. |
Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: Well, this is quite disappointing. I thought old hag could be an interesting morally questionable villain, but now she's just another clearly evil villain. she's an interesting morally questionable villain tho she's a former hero who fell from grace due to old age she saved numerous people in the past, what's wrong with her killing mere dozens of people then? ever heard of the law of equivalent exchange? I don't care about her past, but right now, she's just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons. |
Kimurah said: You sly dog! You got me monologuing! I can't believe it. Of course, a moustache twriling villian could only make a big "here I am" gesture with a long monologue while absolutely nothing happens. Shows like these use the "talking is a free action" trope as the core of infodumping and presenting plot twists or just simple story passages. Meh, the whole materializing spells thru books and magically RGB staffs feel quite cheap (not that the cheap-o blood summons look any more enticing anyway) making the pseudo action scenes less interesting than they already are. Lab_Rat_0978 said: she's an interesting morally questionable villain tho she's a former hero who fell from grace due to old age she saved numerous people in the past, what's wrong with her killing mere dozens of people then? ever heard of the law of equivalent exchange? So it's basically a hero that lived long enough to become the villian. Wow. talk about cliches. Someone award this show with a gold star and a razzie syndrome award. at least archbishop orwell is a lot better than elizabeth báthory in real life orwell isnt obsessed with beauty just for the sake of it or are you also gonna say the people in real life, elizabeth báthory is also a cliche villain written by GOD? lmao |
EdgyLord666 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: she's an interesting morally questionable villain tho she's a former hero who fell from grace due to old age she saved numerous people in the past, what's wrong with her killing mere dozens of people then? ever heard of the law of equivalent exchange? I don't care about her past, but right now, she's just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons. wait what? Im having a trouble understanding your logic here even the episode itself has already explained what orwell used to be in her young days, she's not a villain just for the sake of it not to mention in comparison to the amount of people she saved in the past, she didnt even kill that many either she's not even as cruel and as crazy as the villain from full metal alchemist who sacrificed millions in order to create philosopher stones, you know? based of whom you accused orwell as just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons? lol |
| This is getting even more exciting. I wouldn't say that the turn of events was a shocker but it's a good build up. Tho I didn't expect that Orwell was after immortality. |
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| All according to baba plan? Well, i don't think so. Prepare for reverse uno card from Akari ... Well, a bit of sad honestly having the old Archbishop turned out to be the real villain. My feeling actually a bit of right too when she's suddenly giving a weird shady mission even when Menou already had a hands full with her mission to babysit Akari. I thought there's something more of it since i feel like she's quite manage to stay true to be a gentle woman, from what i've seen in the past four episode. Though at the end of the day, the cliche plot coming through, the old woman really had a great scheme behind all of Menou effort to stay true to the executioner way. Feelsbadman, more importantly after the Archbishop announced they must be eliminated, not to mention she also missed Akari offer to bathing together. Turning point, but also the starting point for Menou and Akari to get over a new journey. After they done defeating that baba... |
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Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: I don't care about her past, but right now, she's just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons. wait what? Im having a trouble understanding your logic here even the episode itself has already explained what orwell used to be in her young days, she's not a villain just for the sake of it not to mention in comparison to the amount of people she saved in the past, she didnt even kill that many either she's not even as cruel and as crazy as the villain from full metal alchemist who sacrificed millions in order to create philosopher stones, you know? based of whom you accused orwell as just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons? lol Bruh, I never said she's a villain just for the sake of it. I'm talking about how she could be a morally grey villain, but now she's clearly just another evil villain. Wanting to be young again or pretty much immortality is such a typical villain goal. |
EdgyLord666 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: wait what? Im having a trouble understanding your logic here even the episode itself has already explained what orwell used to be in her young days, she's not a villain just for the sake of it not to mention in comparison to the amount of people she saved in the past, she didnt even kill that many either she's not even as cruel and as crazy as the villain from full metal alchemist who sacrificed millions in order to create philosopher stones, you know? based of whom you accused orwell as just another evil villain with a typical evil reasons? lol Bruh, I never said she's a villain just for the sake of it. I'm talking about how she could be a morally grey villain, but now she's clearly just another evil villain. Wanting to be young again or pretty much immortality is such a typical villain goal. actually, despite everything orwell still does her job properly, she will kill akari (the lost one) are you implying the church method in handling the lost ones is "evil"? not really imo, we're talking about very very dangerous interdimensional being/"humans" who could accidentally destroy the world right? and they caused at least 4 major calamities already so what evil you're referring to here? orwell is still needed for the chruch, I mean in episode 1 its showcased that she's strong enough to one-shot one of the lost ones whats so evil about sacrificing dozens of people for a true hero like orwell? she simply wants to retain her youth, she doesnt want to die due to old age I think its normal for anyone to be a lil bit selfish, especially when you're already quite old |
Lab_Rat_0978Apr 30, 2022 3:41 AM
Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: Bruh, I never said she's a villain just for the sake of it. I'm talking about how she could be a morally grey villain, but now she's clearly just another evil villain. Wanting to be young again or pretty much immortality is such a typical villain goal. actually, despite everything orwell still does her job properly, she will kill akari (the lost one) are you implying the church method in handling the lost ones is "evil"? not really imo, we're talking about very very dangerous interdimensional being/"humans" who could accidentally destroy the world right? and they caused at least 4 major calamities already so what evil you're referring to here? orwell is still needed for the chruch, I mean in episode 1 its showcased that she's strong enough to one-shot one of the lost ones whats so evil about sacrificing dozens of people for a true hero like orwell? she simply wants to retain her youth, she doesnt want to die due to old age I think its normal for anyone to be a lil bit selfish, especially when you're already quite old I don't know why you're talking about church when I don't even mention it and the fact that you don't even see how evil it is for murdering innocent for such a selfish reason is such an edgy trait. |
| So all this time... Everything Menou was told about the isekaid folks a lie? Tbh I kinda expected that. And the old hag using Akari's Pure Concept just to make her young again. Not only that they are the ones (I presume) that erased the isekaid folks personality so they end up with nothing but their Pure concept. Kinda glad this episode pretty much answers everything I question this show. Otherwise, this was a meh episode. Five episodes in and Finally I'm intrigued. |
| Pathetic old hag. |
EdgyLord666 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: actually, despite everything orwell still does her job properly, she will kill akari (the lost one) are you implying the church method in handling the lost ones is "evil"? not really imo, we're talking about very very dangerous interdimensional being/"humans" who could accidentally destroy the world right? and they caused at least 4 major calamities already so what evil you're referring to here? orwell is still needed for the chruch, I mean in episode 1 its showcased that she's strong enough to one-shot one of the lost ones whats so evil about sacrificing dozens of people for a true hero like orwell? she simply wants to retain her youth, she doesnt want to die due to old age I think its normal for anyone to be a lil bit selfish, especially when you're already quite old I don't know why you're talking about church when I don't even mention it and the fact that you don't even see how evil it is for murdering innocent for such a selfish reason is such an edgy trait. innocents? dude, theyre dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL beings who almost ended the world 4 times already lol did you even make an attempt to watch episode 1? the lost ones are not just your regular "innocent" you could randomly find anywhere would you mind having these dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL "humans" as your Neighbors? lol who would you choose to kill, dozens of ordinary people or one doctor who can heal and save millions of people? saving orwell is a pretty rational choice, her life obviously outweighs those dozens of random women |
Lab_Rat_0978Apr 30, 2022 11:01 AM
| Ah so that old hag is evil, predictable but I'm kinda curious what's her young version is like |
Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: I don't know why you're talking about church when I don't even mention it and the fact that you don't even see how evil it is for murdering innocent for such a selfish reason is such an edgy trait. innocents? dude, theyre dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL beings who almost ended the world 4 times already lol did you even make an attempt to watch episode 1? the lost ones are not just your regular "innocent" you could randomly find anywhere would you mind having these dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL "humans" as your Neighbors? lol who would you choose to kill, dozens of ordinary people or one doctor who can heal and save millions of people? saving orwell is a pretty rational choice, her life obviously outweighs those dozens of random women I don't know why you always bring up something that I never stated to begin with, but yes I'm talking about those random women, and using rational choice doesn't mean it can't be evil. |
| This fucking show just decide to throw another monkey wrench into things. So went from killing iseaki mcs who will show up to destroy the world to her own employer telling the enemy how to do something that can fuck the world over...which it has a couple of times already. Now you one side wanting to use the iseaki mcs or Pure Concepts as soldiers or harvest their power at least while the other wants to use them get young again. Our girl Menou's job just got tougher folks. What is she supposed to do now because killing Akari doesn't yield the result you think it does now but leaving her uncheck could be bad. Toss in two sides with bad intentions. Now, this is what you call conflict and interesting writing. Oh, there is no way as of right now to send Otherworlders/ Prue Concepts back. This is extra fun now! I never thought we could have an MC be in such a shitty situation before but this show proved me wrong. I want more. |
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EdgyLord666 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: innocents? dude, theyre dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL beings who almost ended the world 4 times already lol did you even make an attempt to watch episode 1? the lost ones are not just your regular "innocent" you could randomly find anywhere would you mind having these dangerous INTERDIMENSIONAL "humans" as your Neighbors? lol who would you choose to kill, dozens of ordinary people or one doctor who can heal and save millions of people? saving orwell is a pretty rational choice, her life obviously outweighs those dozens of random women I don't know why you always bring up something that I never stated to begin with, but yes I'm talking about those random women, and using rational choice doesn't mean it can't be evil. good and evil are pretty subjective tho from the livestock (chickens, cows, goats) POV we, emanity are nothing but murderers? butt things can be a lil bit different from cats, dogs POV how about some chickens, cows, goats somehow have developed intellect equal to us, emanity? I'm willing to bet all my money that we, emanity would still kill and eat em all anyways. obviously cuz we're scared of getting dethroned from the top of food chain lol the church decide to kill the lost ones, obviously cuz they're sacred of repeating the same tragedy. the lost ones either lose control on their own or the summoners exploit their power until they lose their mind thats how subjective good and evil are, at the end of the day... its survival of the fittest |
Lab_Rat_0978Apr 30, 2022 11:02 PM
| how sad is the situation of this anime that has been unfairly treated as the worst garbage in the season from many people with the worsts bad takes I've seen in a long time, I just pray that over time people realize really is hidden gem. |
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Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: I don't know why you always bring up something that I never stated to begin with, but yes I'm talking about those random women, and using rational choice doesn't mean it can't be evil. good and evil are pretty subjective tho from the livestock (chickens, cows, goats) POV we, emanity are nothing but murderers? butt things can be a lil bit different from cats, dogs POV how about some chickens, cows, goats somehow have developed intellect equal to us, emanity? I'm willing to bet all my money that we, emanity would still kill and eat em all anyways. obviously cuz we're scared of getting dethroned from the top of food chain lol the church decide to kill the lost ones, obviously cuz they're sacred of repeating the same tragedy. the lost ones either lose control on their own or the summoners exploit their power until they lose their mind thats how subjective good and evil are, at the end of the day... its survival of the fittest Yes, that's pretty much what a villain would say. |
| incredibly 3/5 episode. epitemy of mid |
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| It was all so weird already, just that only the church knows the spells to transport someone, then so that archbishop was the one responsible, just to not get old, already if you see the problem for Menou and Akari. |
Kitsune_089 said: incredibly 3/5 episode. epitemy of mid what a great mid comment, it really contributes a lot |
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| Pretty sure all of them will come out alive without a problem. Princess Ashuna is probably my favorite character so far. Her personality and design is just top notch and I love how much she teases Momo and tries to befriend her. She's also crazily strong so how can you not like her? |
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EmmanuelPlath said: It was all so weird already, just that only the church knows the spells to transport someone, then so that archbishop was the one responsible, just to not get old, already if you see the problem for Menou and Akari. thats mainly cuz the executioners have been killing the summoners and the lost one for decades already, so the lost ones summoning magic is starting to get forgotten nowadays only the church and not many outsiders who still know about it remember how flare, menou's master was killing numerous the lost ones while menou was still a kid? that time all the summoners obviously were also buried alongside the lost ones lol |
| "whaaat! the old hag was using Menou to get power for herself?! i cannot belieeeeve it, what a twist!" Yeah, the signs were there even from the opening than Menou was being used. Akari hasn't had that much of development either thus far apart from sticking to her in quite the intimate way (almost a bath scene). That being said, even if the show hasn't been that unremarkable to me on that regard, I'm curious to see what will become of this now. As in, if we will get a broader look into the political scandal or not. There's still quite a bit of episodes so maybe. |
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| Was waiting so much for this episode, where the "holy" priestess would finally reveal her cards, and as expected here we are... I don't think that they will be able to remove the pure concept of time but we'll see. Also, love that it was Ashuna that made Momo use her head. But i am glad that it turned out like this for Menou, finally, she will start using her head by herself. |
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| Loved the twist, didnt expect the old hag to be a villain, she pulled out a DB plot, also I find hilarious how Momo can't stand Hime when she's a x10 the same to Menou-chan |
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| I kinda saw the plot twist coming a mile away with the old archbishop woman. Doesn't matter though, because this show is awesome. Ashuna is definitely into Momo, whether Momo likes it or not! I wonder if Akari is gonna use her reverse time powers again soon. |
TSTO said: I kinda saw the plot twist coming a mile away with the old archbishop woman. Doesn't matter though, because this show is awesome. Ashuna is definitely into Momo, whether Momo likes it or not! I wonder if Akari is gonna use her reverse time powers again soon. that said tho, I bet you didnt expect it would blow up in episode 5 did you? that was like very very early in the story yea, ashuna is really into momo, iirc in episode 3 ashuna admits that she loves something beautiful and strong, momo definitely has em both covered ashuna x momo, a match made in heaven |
Lab_Rat_0978 said: TSTO said: I kinda saw the plot twist coming a mile away with the old archbishop woman. Doesn't matter though, because this show is awesome. Ashuna is definitely into Momo, whether Momo likes it or not! I wonder if Akari is gonna use her reverse time powers again soon. that said tho, I bet you didnt expect it would blow up in episode 5 did you? that was like very very early in the story yea, ashuna is really into momo, iirc in episode 3 ashuna admits that she loves something beautiful and strong, momo definitely has em both covered ashuna x momo, a match made in heaven I had a feeling something would happen to prevent the killing of Akari but I didn’t know how they would have the event unfold. The reveal of the old hag’s devious plan was definitely interesting though! I second the Ashuna x Momo ship all day. Love the strong tough chick pursuing the cute small girl archetype in anime Also want a happy ending for Menou x Akari but that might be too much to ask for |
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