Dolls' Frontline Episode 2 Discussion

Jan 14, 2022 1:22 PM

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Alokr

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Ardi8 said:
Still can't find any "dark" thing that some game players or manga readers ever told.

All the SKK be like:

Jan 14, 2022 1:34 PM

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Contreras1991

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Alokr said:

TsutanaiFuun said:
Man I have no idea what is happening and why is it happening. They didn't even show us the main 4 characters this episode. People are saying it gets better later on, I really hope it does. Just kawai dolls are not enough to keep me interested in this anime at this point, 1 or 2 more episodes and then I may drop this. Also the episode felt terribly long for some reason, didn't feel like 20 minutes at all. All action was based around guns and gun action isn't very thrilling.

^This and their names based off of guns is not helping much either, they are just making it even harder for us to follow.

It won't surprise me if you drop it, even the mobile game is boring in the first half of the story (which sadly will be the part featured in the anime). You will also need to read a bit about the world's lore to understand what's going on, so I'll help you out with a summary of all the lore (without spoilers):

G&K (griffin and kryuger) - is a private military company hired by the Russian government (in this universe instead of Federal Russia there is the "Neo-Soviet Union" but I'll refer to it as Russia for simplicity).
1. Gentiane - the Commander: In the Anime she is the newly appointed commander for the sector in which the action takes place. In the mobile game, the Commander is canonically a guy, but in the anime, we have Gentiane aka the "Shikikan" to evade any romance plot. It is worth noting that her personality is a bit different than the in-game commander's.
2. Kalina - logistics officer, she is the commander's adjutant and keeps the base running as well as, a steady supply for the t-dolls.
3. Helianthus/ Helian - Your Boss/ Gentiane's Boss. She's like a department Chief and Gentiane is her subordinate.
4. Berezovich Kryuger - Big Boss- I mean the guy who owns G&K, he is the founder. He also has ties with the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, that's why G&K deals with Sangvis Ferri problem instead of the Russian army.

T-Dolls - a Doll is an android made for civilian use (that's why they are girls), like any product, they have different models, each model looks like a different girl. G&K bought a bunch of Doll models and adjusted them for military purposes (Tactical dolls/T-Dolls). They are like cheap disposable soldiers. And because they are cheap disposable soldiers they don't even have a name, so each model is given the name of a gun, to represent the weapon specialization. In short, T-Dolls are non-essential characters so don't try to remember them.

The only T-Dolls that you need to remember are:
M4a1 (on short M4)
M4 sopmod2 (on short Soppo or Sopmod)
ST AR15 (on short STAR)
M16a1 (on short M16)
These Dolls are the last generation of T-Dolls and they are very special, especially m4a1 (I won't go into details since I would spoil the story). They are also called "Anti-Rain team".

Sangvis Ferri - They are a rouge AI force inside Russia. They are like the less powerful Terminator. the AI in control of SF has created what's called "the ringleaders".
The Commander Ringleaders are:
Agent
Gager
Intruder
The Defense Ringleaders are:
Dreamer
Judge
The Combat Ringleaders are:
Executioner
Hunter
Destroyer
Architect
Ouroboros
The Reconnaissance Ringleader is:
Scarecrow
The Special Ops Ringleaders is:
Alchemist

Most likely you will see most if not all of these Ringleaders in the anime if you watch it till the end. If not You have seen Agent (1st episode) and Scarecrow (2nd episode) and probably you will see pretty soon Executioner and maybe Intruder as well.
Besides this, there is no character worth remembering from SF.

I can be pretty intimidating for people that haven't played GFL, but here is a full list of all the T-Dolls that you might see in the show.
https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/t-dolls-list
https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Tactical_Doll

There's a lot of lore to explain/cover for this anime, also the anime covers the most boring part of the story so I encourage you to watch the game story instead (is like a visual novel, you can find it on youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZrS06BM-g&list=PLTpD-lAtY-jDOGHA0DpNeE4KRPpotoRIX&index=1

Commander was never canonical male, it can be either male or female in the game, i think that was some translation issues in which they put in most male pronouns and nicknames to the commander in the global servers (yes, there are some dolls that refer to the commander as male gender) In Chinese in most cases neutral pronouns and nicknames are used to refer to the commander. This is also made clear in the game Girls Frontline 2 where you are given the option again to choose the gender of the commander.

Gentiane is the commander of the Manga, and this anime is taking many elements from that adaptation, I don't think it was created to avoid "romance", since with this you could also go to the other spectrum and create a yuri bait type manga/anime . Her personality is the lazy genius type, where in the game i dont have that impression of the commander behaves like that, heck sometimes he/she behaves like a shounen protagonist (from what i have seen in the events in the game)

Personally, I hope the anime fix her personality a bit, since sometimes she feels like that im watching someone doing a let's play of the game instead of someone living in the story

Jan 14, 2022 2:22 PM

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Alokr

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Contreras1991 said:

Alokr said:

It won't surprise me if you drop it, even the mobile game is boring in the first half of the story (which sadly will be the part featured in the anime). You will also need to read a bit about the world's lore to understand what's going on, so I'll help you out with a summary of all the lore (without spoilers):

G&K (griffin and kryuger) - is a private military company hired by the Russian government (in this universe instead of Federal Russia there is the "Neo-Soviet Union" but I'll refer to it as Russia for simplicity).
1. Gentiane - the Commander: In the Anime she is the newly appointed commander for the sector in which the action takes place. In the mobile game, the Commander is canonically a guy, but in the anime, we have Gentiane aka the "Shikikan" to evade any romance plot. It is worth noting that her personality is a bit different than the in-game commander's.
2. Kalina - logistics officer, she is the commander's adjutant and keeps the base running as well as, a steady supply for the t-dolls.
3. Helianthus/ Helian - Your Boss/ Gentiane's Boss. She's like a department Chief and Gentiane is her subordinate.
4. Berezovich Kryuger - Big Boss- I mean the guy who owns G&K, he is the founder. He also has ties with the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, that's why G&K deals with Sangvis Ferri problem instead of the Russian army.

T-Dolls - a Doll is an android made for civilian use (that's why they are girls), like any product, they have different models, each model looks like a different girl. G&K bought a bunch of Doll models and adjusted them for military purposes (Tactical dolls/T-Dolls). They are like cheap disposable soldiers. And because they are cheap disposable soldiers they don't even have a name, so each model is given the name of a gun, to represent the weapon specialization. In short, T-Dolls are non-essential characters so don't try to remember them.

The only T-Dolls that you need to remember are:
M4a1 (on short M4)
M4 sopmod2 (on short Soppo or Sopmod)
ST AR15 (on short STAR)
M16a1 (on short M16)
These Dolls are the last generation of T-Dolls and they are very special, especially m4a1 (I won't go into details since I would spoil the story). They are also called "Anti-Rain team".

Sangvis Ferri - They are a rouge AI force inside Russia. They are like the less powerful Terminator. the AI in control of SF has created what's called "the ringleaders".
The Commander Ringleaders are:
Agent
Gager
Intruder
The Defense Ringleaders are:
Dreamer
Judge
The Combat Ringleaders are:
Executioner
Hunter
Destroyer
Architect
Ouroboros
The Reconnaissance Ringleader is:
Scarecrow
The Special Ops Ringleaders is:
Alchemist

Most likely you will see most if not all of these Ringleaders in the anime if you watch it till the end. If not You have seen Agent (1st episode) and Scarecrow (2nd episode) and probably you will see pretty soon Executioner and maybe Intruder as well.
Besides this, there is no character worth remembering from SF.

I can be pretty intimidating for people that haven't played GFL, but here is a full list of all the T-Dolls that you might see in the show.
https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/t-dolls-list
https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Tactical_Doll

There's a lot of lore to explain/cover for this anime, also the anime covers the most boring part of the story so I encourage you to watch the game story instead (is like a visual novel, you can find it on youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZrS06BM-g&list=PLTpD-lAtY-jDOGHA0DpNeE4KRPpotoRIX&index=1

Commander was never canonical male, it can be either male or female in the game, i think that was some translation issues in which they put in most male pronouns and nicknames to the commander in the global servers (yes, there are some dolls that refer to the commander as male gender) In Chinese in most cases neutral pronouns and nicknames are used to refer to the commander. This is also made clear in the game Girls Frontline 2 where you are given the option again to choose the gender of the commander.

Gentiane is the commander of the Manga, and this anime is taking many elements from that adaptation, I don't think it was created to avoid "romance", since with this you could also go to the other spectrum and create a yuri bait type manga/anime . Her personality is the lazy genius type, where in the game i dont have that impression of the commander behaves like that, heck sometimes he/she behaves like a shounen protagonist (from what i have seen in the events in the game)

Personally, I hope the anime fix her personality a bit, since sometimes she feels like that im watching someone doing a let's play of the game instead of someone living in the story

You can choose your gender in GFL although in the story you are still referred to with male pronouns for example 9-3E cutscene, continuum turbulence (has a line which says "my motto has always been treat ladies gently") so be it intentional, a story writing hiccup or just a translation error, is still there. If it sounds, acts, and is referred to as a male then I say that it is canonically a male (or at least intended to). I don't know how the examples that I gave are written on CN since I don't know Chinese. If you can confirm those cutscenes to be actually with neutral pronounce sure I take it back. On the other hand, you are also right since some skin stories and events will let answer based on the gender of choices, plus like you said, you can choose your gender and outfit your chibi skk however you like and most of the time you will be referred to by your nickname or simply as "commander". But as long as global has those "not so gender-neutral" pronouns it can be considered canonical.

Either way thanks for adding that!

I agree with you, I feel like the commander in the game had a more immersive evolution as a character in the story, especially with the later events. Gentiane while I find her overall personality fine (the manga series was a good enough substitute for the in-game skk), doesn't really fit in... as you said it feels like she's literally a GFL player doing GFL let's plays of early chapters... I too hope that the anime will fix her and improve her character... especially since this part of the story is pretty bland/boring...

Jan 14, 2022 3:17 PM

#24

Contreras1991

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Alokr said:

Contreras1991 said:

Alokr said:

TsutanaiFuun said:
Man I have no idea what is happening and why is it happening. They didn't even show us the main 4 characters this episode. People are saying it gets better later on, I really hope it does. Just kawai dolls are not enough to keep me interested in this anime at this point, 1 or 2 more episodes and then I may drop this. Also the episode felt terribly long for some reason, didn't feel like 20 minutes at all. All action was based around guns and gun action isn't very thrilling.

Stark700 said:
One problem I do have so far is the amount of characters making it hard to follow almost everyone.

^This and their names based off of guns is not helping much either, they are just making it even harder for us to follow.

It won't surprise me if you drop it, even the mobile game is boring in the first half of the story (which sadly will be the part featured in the anime). You will also need to read a bit about the world's lore to understand what's going on, so I'll help you out with a summary of all the lore (without spoilers):

G&K (griffin and kryuger) - is a private military company hired by the Russian government (in this universe instead of Federal Russia there is the "Neo-Soviet Union" but I'll refer to it as Russia for simplicity).
1. Gentiane - the Commander: In the Anime she is the newly appointed commander for the sector in which the action takes place. In the mobile game, the Commander is canonically a guy, but in the anime, we have Gentiane aka the "Shikikan" to evade any romance plot. It is worth noting that her personality is a bit different than the in-game commander's.
2. Kalina - logistics officer, she is the commander's adjutant and keeps the base running as well as, a steady supply for the t-dolls.
3. Helianthus/ Helian - Your Boss/ Gentiane's Boss. She's like a department Chief and Gentiane is her subordinate.
4. Berezovich Kryuger - Big Boss- I mean the guy who owns G&K, he is the founder. He also has ties with the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, that's why G&K deals with Sangvis Ferri problem instead of the Russian army.

T-Dolls - a Doll is an android made for civilian use (that's why they are girls), like any product, they have different models, each model looks like a different girl. G&K bought a bunch of Doll models and adjusted them for military purposes (Tactical dolls/T-Dolls). They are like cheap disposable soldiers. And because they are cheap disposable soldiers they don't even have a name, so each model is given the name of a gun, to represent the weapon specialization. In short, T-Dolls are non-essential characters so don't try to remember them.

The only T-Dolls that you need to remember are:
M4a1 (on short M4)
M4 sopmod2 (on short Soppo or Sopmod)
ST AR15 (on short STAR)
M16a1 (on short M16)
These Dolls are the last generation of T-Dolls and they are very special, especially m4a1 (I won't go into details since I would spoil the story). They are also called "Anti-Rain team".

Sangvis Ferri - They are a rouge AI force inside Russia. They are like the less powerful Terminator. the AI in control of SF has created what's called "the ringleaders".
The Commander Ringleaders are:
Agent
Gager
Intruder
The Defense Ringleaders are:
Dreamer
Judge
The Combat Ringleaders are:
Executioner
Hunter
Destroyer
Architect
Ouroboros
The Reconnaissance Ringleader is:
Scarecrow
The Special Ops Ringleaders is:
Alchemist

Most likely you will see most if not all of these Ringleaders in the anime if you watch it till the end. If not You have seen Agent (1st episode) and Scarecrow (2nd episode) and probably you will see pretty soon Executioner and maybe Intruder as well.
Besides this, there is no character worth remembering from SF.

I can be pretty intimidating for people that haven't played GFL, but here is a full list of all the T-Dolls that you might see in the show.
https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/t-dolls-list
https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Tactical_Doll

There's a lot of lore to explain/cover for this anime, also the anime covers the most boring part of the story so I encourage you to watch the game story instead (is like a visual novel, you can find it on youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZrS06BM-g&list=PLTpD-lAtY-jDOGHA0DpNeE4KRPpotoRIX&index=1

Commander was never canonical male, it can be either male or female in the game, i think that was some translation issues in which they put in most male pronouns and nicknames to the commander in the global servers (yes, there are some dolls that refer to the commander as male gender) In Chinese in most cases neutral pronouns and nicknames are used to refer to the commander. This is also made clear in the game Girls Frontline 2 where you are given the option again to choose the gender of the commander.

Gentiane is the commander of the Manga, and this anime is taking many elements from that adaptation, I don't think it was created to avoid "romance", since with this you could also go to the other spectrum and create a yuri bait type manga/anime . Her personality is the lazy genius type, where in the game i dont have that impression of the commander behaves like that, heck sometimes he/she behaves like a shounen protagonist (from what i have seen in the events in the game)

Personally, I hope the anime fix her personality a bit, since sometimes she feels like that im watching someone doing a let's play of the game instead of someone living in the story

You can choose your gender in GFL although in the story you are still referred to with male pronouns for example 9-3E cutscene, continuum turbulence (has a line which says "my motto has always been treat ladies gently") so be it intentional, a story writing hiccup or just a translation error, is still there. If it sounds, acts, and is referred to as a male then I say that it is canonically a male (or at least intended to). I don't know how the examples that I gave are written on CN since I don't know Chinese. If you can confirm those cutscenes to be actually with neutral pronounce sure I take it back. On the other hand, you are also right since some skin stories and events will let answer based on the gender of choices, plus like you said, you can choose your gender and outfit your chibi skk however you like and most of the time you will be referred to by your nickname or simply as "commander". But as long as global has those "not so gender-neutral" pronouns it can be considered canonical.

Either way thanks for adding that!

I agree with you, I feel like the commander in the game had a more immersive evolution as a character in the story, especially with the later events. Gentiane while I find her overall personality fine (the manga series was a good enough substitute for the in-game skk), doesn't really fit in... as you said it feels like she's literally a GFL player doing GFL let's plays of early chapters... I too hope that the anime will fix her and improve her character... especially since this part of the story is pretty bland/boring...

Regarding the neutral pronouns people in the reddit of girls frontline has mentioned that english lacks of neutral pronuns if you compare it with the chinese, japanese, or korean languages. The other servers they refer to the commander as gender neutrally as posible, since those languages don't really have gender specific pronouns

Jan 14, 2022 3:33 PM

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Pretty good episode, it was mainly focused on Gentiane getting used to commanding the T-dolls and then earning their favor for looking after their safety in battle, which I found pretty wholesome when they all came to her personally to thank her, but then tragedy struck when one of the Sangvis robots self destructed leading to all of those T-dolls Gentiane met dying in the explosion, to which she was mortified over.

Yeah it’s definitely not the best show this season, I especially noticed that the gunfights aren’t super interesting because they’re just standing in place while shooting, and during the scarecrow fight it didn’t show her taking any of the bullets despite standing still (stormtrooper aim much lol) but I am still finding this enjoyable, the plot is kinda intriguing me so far and I always liked the designs of the girls in this series, I’ll definitely be watching this to the end for things like that.

Jan 14, 2022 3:53 PM

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well at least its better than the 1st ep and that's all I have to say

English is my second language

Jan 14, 2022 4:43 PM

#27

Spirit_Chaser

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That was awful; worse than the first episode. I already knew what to expect since it's a gacha adaptation, but they really fell apart in production.

Jan 14, 2022 5:33 PM

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Asdedix147

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Spirit_Chaser said:
That was awful; worse than the first episode. I already knew what to expect since it's a gacha adaptation, but they really fell apart in production.

GFL actually has an amazing story but anime isnt adapting the game. Its an adaptation of non-canon doujin. Game developer wasnt even supervising this show

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Jan 14, 2022 6:07 PM

#29

Slimsith

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Scarecrow huh?
As much as the character looked cool, the rotating energy blasters reminded me of
Altair

from Re: Creators.

Sadly Scarecrow, didn't prove to be much of anything except being a one-shot speedbump for this anime.

There's no point in continuing this series, time to drop it and move on.

Jan 14, 2022 6:10 PM

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Khunime

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Still love the opening.

» [The World's Continuation【世界のつづき】- UTA/Ado ♪] «
0:00 〇────── 4:55
↺ |◁ II ▷| ♡

✦ Come and Join us! ✦
Evil Club ψ
FuwaFuwa Sanctuary ✿
✿ DeaD Blossoms ✿

Jan 14, 2022 9:13 PM

#31

TsutanaiFuun

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Yuvensius said:

TsutanaiFuun said:
People are saying it gets better later on, I really hope it does. Just kawai dolls are not enough to keep me interested in this anime at this point, 1 or 2 more episodes and then I may drop this. Also the episode felt terribly long for some reason, didn't feel like 20 minutes at all. All action was based around guns and gun action isn't very thrilling.

The better part will be adapted near the end around episode 9-12. But the best part can't be adapted in this 12 episodes slot.

Then its going to get very hard to follow this anime if nothing very interesting happens soon, I'm still hoping though. Will give it 1 or 2 more episodes.

Alokr said:
It won't surprise me if you drop it, even the mobile game is boring in the first half of the story (which sadly will be the part featured in the anime). You will also need to read a bit about the world's lore to understand what's going on, so I'll help you out with a summary of all the lore (without spoilers):

G&K (griffin and kryuger) - is a private military company hired by the Russian government (in this universe instead of Federal Russia there is the "Neo-Soviet Union" but I'll refer to it as Russia for simplicity).
1. Gentiane - the Commander: In the Anime she is the newly appointed commander for the sector in which the action takes place. In the mobile game, the Commander is canonically a guy, but in the anime, we have Gentiane aka the "Shikikan" to evade any romance plot. It is worth noting that her personality is a bit different than the in-game commander's.
2. Kalina - logistics officer, she is the commander's adjutant and keeps the base running as well as, a steady supply for the t-dolls.
3. Helianthus/ Helian - Your Boss/ Gentiane's Boss. She's like a department Chief and Gentiane is her subordinate.
4. Berezovich Kryuger - Big Boss- I mean the guy who owns G&K, he is the founder. He also has ties with the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, that's why G&K deals with Sangvis Ferri problem instead of the Russian army.

T-Dolls - a Doll is an android made for civilian use (that's why they are girls), like any product, they have different models, each model looks like a different girl. G&K bought a bunch of Doll models and adjusted them for military purposes (Tactical dolls/T-Dolls). They are like cheap disposable soldiers. And because they are cheap disposable soldiers they don't even have a name, so each model is given the name of a gun, to represent the weapon specialization. In short, T-Dolls are non-essential characters so don't try to remember them.

The only T-Dolls that you need to remember are:
M4a1 (on short M4)
M4 sopmod2 (on short Soppo or Sopmod)
ST AR15 (on short STAR)
M16a1 (on short M16)
These Dolls are the last generation of T-Dolls and they are very special, especially m4a1 (I won't go into details since I would spoil the story). They are also called "Anti-Rain team".

Sangvis Ferri - They are a rouge AI force inside Russia. They are like the less powerful Terminator. the AI in control of SF has created what's called "the ringleaders".
The Commander Ringleaders are:
Agent
Gager
Intruder
The Defense Ringleaders are:
Dreamer
Judge
The Combat Ringleaders are:
Executioner
Hunter
Destroyer
Architect
Ouroboros
The Reconnaissance Ringleader is:
Scarecrow
The Special Ops Ringleaders is:
Alchemist

Most likely you will see most if not all of these Ringleaders in the anime if you watch it till the end. If not You have seen Agent (1st episode) and Scarecrow (2nd episode) and probably you will see pretty soon Executioner and maybe Intruder as well.
Besides this, there is no character worth remembering from SF.

I can be pretty intimidating for people that haven't played GFL, but here is a full list of all the T-Dolls that you might see in the show.
https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/t-dolls-list
https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Tactical_Doll

There's a lot of lore to explain/cover for this anime, also the anime covers the most boring part of the story so I encourage you to watch the game story instead (is like a visual novel, you can find it on youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZrS06BM-g&list=PLTpD-lAtY-jDOGHA0DpNeE4KRPpotoRIX&index=1

Thank you, I appreciate this, some of the things are definitely clear. I'll check out the game story sometime. For now I'm thinking of continuing the anime, if I get interested in this story and the anime gets boring I'll check out the game story then.

The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
Feeling half happy, half sad.

Kawaii waifus
and precious
best girls <3333

Jan 14, 2022 9:57 PM

#32

Triggerfish124

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Episode was just ok, better than episode 1. I'll give the anime one more episode before deciding if I'll drop it.

Jan 14, 2022 10:30 PM

#33

NoGoodNameRemain

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Ardi8 said:
Still can't find any "dark" thing that some game players or manga readers ever told.

When I hear people said it was going to be dark at the time the anime was announced, I wonder the same too. Since I played the EN version until chapter 12 or so and then quit. At that point, it is your action sci-fi movie with cute girls at most. If thing really got interesting later, I doubt the anime can deliver within 12 episodes.

Jan 14, 2022 10:33 PM

#34

Akumaru03

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This was a much better episode than last one but better doesn't mean it is already good enough. This episode felt kinda lost, I don't know how to put it into words. I kept getting distracted by something else while watching this episode. Maybe its the lack of clarity in the plot, my friends didn't understand anything what was going on so I had to explain to them myself.

The action choreography wasn't great either, there could've been lots of action happening but its just firing in open space. Honestly, the action scenes in episode 1 was cooler. Scarecrow's demise at the end also felt anti-climactic (to me at least), it happened too fast to show us any sort of build up with emotions at stake. And for some odd reason, I didn't feel any kind of dread after that last scene happened.

Definitely still watching this series, its just that my hope for its success had dimmed down a little.

Akumaru03Jan 14, 2022 10:38 PM

Jan 14, 2022 11:04 PM

#35

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Asdedix147 said:
Close to being unwatchable. PPS magically swaps her firearm to UMP45 between frames which doesnt have sense plot-wise. We have a close up of mp5 firing her weapon where bolt doesnt move.
Choreography of gun fighting in this ep was just girls standing in an open field and shooting.
Ive been playing GFL since august 2019 and I knew that anime adaptation of non-canon doujin is doomed to fail but Jesus Christ.
Game developer wasnt even supervising this shitfest....

Eh? Are you are talking about that manga by Ling? The manga didn't even bother with the tutorial and Scarecrow, Ling just skipped the entire chapter 1 as if that happened behind the scene and just continue with M4 pursuit by Executioner.

Genti intro last episode and this entire episode doesn't exist in the manga. If you want to blame the shitty action, etc. blame it on how the anime production team decided to adapt chapter 1 instead.

Jan 14, 2022 11:10 PM

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NoGoodNameRemain said:
When I hear people said it was going to be dark at the time the anime was announced, I wonder the same too. Since I played the EN version until chapter 12 or so and then quit. At that point, it is your action sci-fi movie with cute girls at most. If thing really got interesting later, I doubt the anime can deliver within 12 episodes.

Ah, chapter 12 huh? Did you also read the campaign? Like Cube, AW, DD, Singularity, CT, Isomer, etc.? Or only read the main chapter?

Jan 14, 2022 11:34 PM

#37

matias067

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production staff looks cheap huh...
3/5.

Jan 15, 2022 12:07 AM

#38

akitakita

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Dec 2021

7

Less action from AR team this time, more of a focus on the story and Gentiane's role in it, as was alluded to in the ending of the first episode. Lots of action in general in this episode however, introduces even more characters and concepts from the game, and I feel it was better paced than the first. Small error with the shot where PPS is holding an UMP45 (and holding it wrong) but it's forgivable and I thought it was funny honestly. Good episode over all.

Jan 15, 2022 5:31 AM

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Pretty fun ep. Im interested in the story, but when i compare it to the first episode, there is definetly more action, but it got all choppy and not so fluent as it was before. I hope they wont sacrifice the good visuals for more baseless action. The commander's character development is definetly needed, but i dont want it to interfere with the story's value as a whole.
Im still looking foward to more episodes though.

Jan 15, 2022 7:02 AM

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Yuvensius said:
Ah, chapter 12 huh? Did you also read the campaign? Like Cube, AW, DD, Singularity, CT, Isomer, etc.? Or only read the main chapter?

Up until during cube+, I just search my chat log with my cousin, I gave my account to him on Jul 2019, while cube+ were running, since I invested lot of bucks to the game so quitting was a bit .... uneasy. But he is playing genshin now so no one play that account anymore lol.

Jan 15, 2022 7:45 AM

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The dolls waste so much ammo. Other than opening and closing songs this doesn't have much going for it 2/5

Jan 15, 2022 8:11 AM

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I do wish the gunfight choreography had more oomf to it, y'know? Of course there are times for rest and to slow down, but there are also times for big energy, and impact.

&++ I had a feeling Scarecrow would self-destruct

Jan 15, 2022 10:31 AM

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NoGoodNameRemain said:

Yuvensius said:
Ah, chapter 12 huh? Did you also read the campaign? Like Cube, AW, DD, Singularity, CT, Isomer, etc.? Or only read the main chapter?

Up until during cube+, I just search my chat log with my cousin, I gave my account to him on Jul 2019, while cube+ were running, since I invested lot of bucks to the game so quitting was a bit .... uneasy. But he is playing genshin now so no one play that account anymore lol.

Umm, then how did you know about chapter 12? EN only got chapter 12 in January 2021, even Singularity (chapter 10.5) only arrived in Nov 2019.

Jan 15, 2022 11:00 AM

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Yuvensius said:
then how did you know about chapter 12

I never said the exact chapter number, I said "12 or so". It has been nearly 3 years, how can I remember exactly. The plot also did not have much memorable things to begin with.

NoGoodNameRemainJan 15, 2022 11:09 AM

Jan 15, 2022 3:08 PM

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Another 3/5 episode. Also, I hate the lazy precocious genius trope.

"Good" thing there's barely any show I'm following of this season. So, there is barely a reason to drop it, unless it gets much worse.

OP and END are very nice, sad they are wasted in this 5/10 anime.

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Jan 15, 2022 7:54 PM

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lol so bad.

I feel like one of the biggest sins here are that the differences between humans and dolls aren't established enough. Like I seriously can't tell them apart, unless they specifically say so or have guns.

Also the women with the glasses treats the commander chick like she's insane for caring about the dolls... Its not like they LOOK and ACT exactly like humans lol. Again, no way to differentiate the two.

Another thing I don't get is like, wouldn't it make sense to take care of your resources (aka dolls)? Glasses chick explains how they are disposable and they should all go kamikaze but also who funds this company and with what materials are these dolls made from? Kinda a waste of money and resources (especially if materials are finite) if they don't take care of them and destroy them every battle. Going to war is very expensive.

Jan 15, 2022 9:30 PM

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This remains boring as absolute hell. The big fight at the end is Star Wars stormtroopers level of stupid. They all stand in an empty field, ten feet apart and fire haphazardly, now with no accuracy whatsoever. Then it's revealed that one was hiding eight feet away, opens fire, and instantly destroys her. That's the whole fight. Also, they had her surrounded, so were firing in a circle. So they were shooting at each other. Which apparently the show never realized.

Jan 16, 2022 12:44 AM

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It felt more like 'lets play' video. The one you watch someone else play.
With all game shenanigans that have no place in good adaptation kept.
Like genius tactics of standing proud in open view. Or encircling for better friendly fire. Or dolls interview via zoom in special empty rooms.

Jan 16, 2022 5:18 AM

#49

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Alright, finally commander Komatsu, i mean, Gentiane, entering the battlefield. Commander Kalina already had a familiar voice, no wonder. Yeah, that's like a tutorial. But More cute dolls handling the old gun model, looks fun enough for me. Then, while facing such a high-levelled drone like that, its indeed the dangerous situations. Ofc lots of casualties there were inevitable, even though Gentiane able to took her down on the first and trying to interrogate her. But, high-end model seems to not just a shallow name. The newbie commander must learn a great lesson from her first actual battle. Watch out, M4, enemy incoming...

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Jan 16, 2022 10:18 AM

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Why?
Why are android spraying bullets instead of proper controlled fire?
Why do you build an army where every unit is using a different weapon?
Why is everybody just standing on an open field during a fight?
Why give a superior unit a countdown to surrender with a nice talk up front instead of just taking her out by snipers?
Why would the self destruct leave the memory module unharmed?

So much that doesn't make sense.

Jan 16, 2022 1:40 PM

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GregHill said:
Why?
Why are android spraying bullets instead of proper controlled fire?
Why do you build an army where every unit is using a different weapon?
Why is everybody just standing on an open field during a fight?
Why give a superior unit a countdown to surrender with a nice talk up front instead of just taking her out by snipers?
Why would the self destruct leave the memory module unharmed?

So much that doesn't make sense.

This show is just one confusion after the other, like how the FUCK did it take that long just to destroy that one doll with that many dolls opening fire.

Jan 17, 2022 5:50 AM

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Seems some they're not entirely following the manga. Probably a mix of manga and the game.

Jan 17, 2022 9:00 AM

#53

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So that was a mock/tutorial battle for Gentiane, interesting, but damn Sangvis' Scarecrow was quite well developed for a IA, and she could send the info to Sangvis before exploding herself, now the track on M4A1 is tenser and tenser

Jan 17, 2022 3:34 PM

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Got a glimpse with Gentiane. I do agree with the other commander. She seems a bit emotional attached to the dolls.

You still have their memories intact, unless there is a way to permanently "erase" their memories.

Also Scarecrow's VA is the same as the game? I compared it and it is indeed Okuno Kaya

Though, she she also have some sort of backup or is t his one and done? Boss fight in the game is very similar to the Anime.

You just fight her in an open field

Let's get back to AR team!

Jan 17, 2022 6:46 PM

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you know I hate to be that person but there is this one frame that is just stuck to my mind to this day and I know this anime is not trying to be realistic and all that but

English is my second language

Jan 18, 2022 7:48 PM

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b0177 said:
you know I hate to be that person but there is this one frame that is just stuck to my mind to this day and I know this anime is not trying to be realistic and all that but

The perspective and posture are wrong. The rifle is sticking into her chest , not couched against her right shoulder/pectoral as it would otherwise be; the angle of the weapon is thus wrong, and this indicates that the artist in question who drew this scene is unfamiliar with drawing specific weapons.
Mosin-Nagant is drawn here with her firing stance and grip suggesting that she's holding the weapon in a right-handed grip, but the weapon is placed in a manner which suggests a left-handed grip. Hence the order of her hands, and shoulder positioning should be reversed.

Jan 19, 2022 5:51 AM

#57

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Asdedix147 said:

Spirit_Chaser said:
That was awful; worse than the first episode. I already knew what to expect since it's a gacha adaptation, but they really fell apart in production.

GFL actually has an amazing story but anime isnt adapting the game. Its an adaptation of non-canon doujin. Game developer wasnt even supervising this show

For a sourcie you really managed to cram a staggering amount of garbage into a single statement.

The anime is adapting the game - and yes, the story is so far basically the same, using the manga primarily as visual reference (since it's basically a pre-made storyboard).
The manga is also completely canon, or at least fully canon-compatible, and an officially licensed product. On top of that, both the manga and anime have Yuzhong's name on it (producer and lead writer of the game and CEO of the studio that makes it), literally the ultimate seal of approval something Girls' Frontline related can have.

I totally understand if you're disappointed in the adaptation here, but you don't have to spew shit everywhere because of it.

Jan 21, 2022 10:28 AM

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Canon really? Does Gentian looks like someone who witnessed zombie plague? Never was in Green Zone? Led bohemian life in collage? That she drink anything else then coffee? That she has motto "always treat girls gently"? That is not kind of person who would be able enjoy peacefull life?

Well, manga certainly is official work approved by MICA. Who say otherwise is obviously wrong, but canon-compatible is simply not the case and cannot be considered compatible ever since Gentiane refused take offered gun.

Edit: plus in ep.3 M16 drink coffee instead Jack, so anime is not canon either.

Tenzen12Jan 21, 2022 10:46 AM

Jan 27, 2022 1:00 AM

#59

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Not exactly a masterpiece of anime, but hey, at least there's cute girls and shooty-shooty action. A man's ideal fantasy.

Is it weird that I'm starting to cheer more for Sangvis than for Griffin? At least Sangvis robots want to do their own thing, instead of blindly obeying humans.

Pretty relieved that the final battle avoided the typical cliche scene:

Dolls: "Surrender now, you're all alone and surrounded. Clearly you can't win."
Scarecrow: "Surprise, watch me use my Way Cool ninja powers to annihilate an entire squad without a scratch."
Dolls: *die like bitches*
Commander: "M-Masaka?!"

but instead I got

Scarecrow: "Surprise, watch me use my Way Cool ninja powers--"
Commander: "Ah yes, these. Yawn. Obviously we're not so stupid so as to walk into battle without thoroughly learning the capabilities of enemy units. Now die."
Scarecrow: "M-Masaka?!"

Too bad, in the end Griffin fell right into the ol' "self destruct" cliche. Remember: never interrogate a determined, dying enemy at close range.

Jan 29, 2022 2:24 PM

#60

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I fully intended to drop this after one episode but thought I should at least try one more.

Well, that will teach me to stick with my first instinct...

So tedious and ugly

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May 2, 2022 1:00 PM

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I have to admit the anime already served it's purpose on me. I haven't updated or logged into the game for a couple of years, but did so today after they dedicated a few seconds to Ingram and mentioned the mission to rescue and retrieve Skorpion. I used those two T-Dolls in active squads for most of the content that was out back then, and was curious to see if Skorpion was still in my first Echelon - which she apparently was. And after updating I started checking new content, and playing the game again. I do like a gacha that has a multitude of 5 star rarity characters but still allows long term viability to a couple of average rarity starters.

Don't overlook or neglect your Skorpion, she does a good job despite those missing stars, and only starts to fall off a bit in late game.

Anyways, it seems quite similar to to first Azur Lane anime (before the better SoL one) in that it's more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about trying to follow the story due to having played the game, they seem to be following it in quite a linear fashion, so I dout they'll get very far in 12 episodes - which is a shame because the source material gets better in the later stages. But it's still fun for me to watch, and reminded me to pick up the game again - for the time being at least.

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Aug 6, 2023 4:59 PM

#62

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Better episode than the reviews said.
Expected a train wreck and it wasn't that bad.

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