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Aug 19, 2021 1:09 PM

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Best anime episode I've seen in a long time. Just wow
Aug 19, 2021 1:17 PM

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The characters in this show are so good. I am not so sure about the plot devices but they sure are creative. It's hella 4th wall-y with the movie theatre, I feel like I would have to watch it 10 times over to get a full appreciation of this episode.
Aug 19, 2021 1:23 PM

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Very good episode, this made me much more excited for what's next to come. And yeah I agreewith @nuttre , the characters are top tier and dont the fit the generic school anime archetypes.
Aug 19, 2021 1:28 PM
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I knew the talking dog's voice sounded familiar. It's the same person who voiced the Black Hooded character in "To Your Eternity", Kenjirou Tsuda.
Aug 19, 2021 1:36 PM
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Angel Beats much? err ye

Aug 19, 2021 2:20 PM

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Has any other anime moved on to (and then past, in this case) literal deconstruction of the medium this quickly?
Aug 19, 2021 2:38 PM

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Aki-sensei is leading a military group out of nowhere. Feels bad to be with her. Asakaze pretty much ended as her lapdog.
Radjhani and Nagara were close to bringing themselves back to the ''original world'' but sadly it was just a copy.
Seems like there will be some kind of time travel.


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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Aug 19, 2021 2:54 PM
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deg said:
i have to lower my score of this show for now

you need some basic quantum mechanics knowledge to understand this episode

so this episode shows the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics especially the time travel part that you cannot change the past and if you do go to the past you just gonna create another branch or possibility or new timeline while the old timeline is not gonna be affected so that is how time paradoxes are avoided

god plays dice is what quantum mechanics says so the world is about chances or probabilities rather than classical physics which is deterministic but Einstein famously said that god does not play dice though since his discovery the general relativity means reality is deterministic



i guess the ending will be they gonna exactly time travel to the past where a new timeline or branch of time will be created for all of them

also they might be in Schrodingers Cat state which means they are both dead and alive at the same time so they need self-awareness or observer of themselves or they need to start recognizing each other to finally break out and have a future or outcome

Nozomi is both dead and alive clearly in this episode she is a Schrodingers Cat for example

even Wikipedia has the film analogy of the Many Worlds (or This Worlds like the anime likes to call it) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

so this show is not about structure vs agency of social science anymore but the multiverse and hard science too being a huge metaphor of yet another coming of age story



One thing dosn't exclude the other. I'm still seeing the social metaphors and critique in the new episode. The Quantum Mecanics isn't essencial for the interpretation of the other side. If you clone someone, both will think be the original, and you can see that way with the new discover, without using Shorindeger, just logic. Sorry if i did a grammatical mistake
Aug 19, 2021 3:14 PM

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this show blows my expectations out the water every time, amazing episode
Aug 19, 2021 3:53 PM
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Wow, just when I thought I was starting to understand what was going on, this episode happened. What a trip, I loved it!
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Aug 19, 2021 3:54 PM

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SideCharacterKal said:
Aki-sensei is leading a military group out of nowhere. Feels bad to be with her. Asakaze pretty much ended as her lapdog.
Radjhani and Nagara were close to bringing themselves back to the ''original world'' but sadly it was just a copy.
Seems like there will be some kind of time travel.


I think THEY are the copy, and what they saw is real. Doggo also said they had already graduate. But they never did.
Tachikoma saves the day !!!
Aug 19, 2021 3:58 PM

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Hmmm that's also mean doggo is a few years younger than them, but has also been stuck there for about 5000 years.

Clusterfuck time in coming.
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Tachikoma saves the day !!!
Aug 19, 2021 4:12 PM

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I was on the fence about this show up to this point, but this episode was done so well that I'm kind of sold on this show now.

Like most people, I still don't know what the fuck is going on, but the directing on this episode was perfect. The animation (love the blurred animation they used when Nagara adjusted the film spec), the song inserts and the way the episode ended was perfect.

I really hope they keep this up until the end.
Aug 19, 2021 4:13 PM
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This episode blew me away, I never expected the twist to be so good.
Aug 19, 2021 4:14 PM

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None of the previous episodes were as confusing to me as this episode was. So many thoughts crossed my mind, and more questions keep piling up. The thing that struck me the most in this episode though was the egocentrism and the disappointment that comes with not being the center of something or being mere copies, just like the characters in this episode. I liked that detail a lot.

In an alternative future, Nozomi is dead, but in their future or the present they came from leading to their future, they all might be dead, or alive for that matter.

I'm curious about Hoshi and the teacher.

We're halfway through the show.
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Aug 19, 2021 4:18 PM
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This episode felt like it was the last episode, but the episode itself was good with Nagara's powers.
Aug 19, 2021 5:00 PM
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Everytime I think I just about understand this show, a new episode airs and it shows that I barely understand it at all (will definitely be running this show back for clarity when the full season has aired). Nice change of pace though, Dog senpai joined the school after they graduated but went adrift 5000 years before them? Time is confusing. Still don't trust Hoshi one bit, but no this mysterious principal/god character has been revealed I guess we see what happens. Also very curious about who/what their "teacher" is, if only students can go adrift. Something sinister is incoming I think.
Aug 19, 2021 5:05 PM

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A lot of twists in this episode. Nozomi's still probably the most interesting character. She'll probably have to make some important decisions in the future.
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Aug 19, 2021 5:20 PM
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The episode was for sure interesting, but does anyone knows the song that was playing during the scene where Nagara was about to try to take them back.
Aug 19, 2021 5:28 PM

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I feel like adding time travel to an anime could be hit or miss at times. So we will see how this turns out.

Aki-sensei may or may not be a Sensei. She's wearing a Uniform in the Island world but she was clearly a Teacher in the "Real"/"Copied" world. So shining some light on that situation soon would be nice.

Raj is seriously turning out to be one of my favorite characters in this series. How he's not considered a main Character at this point is absurd. I loved how he was actually not getting jealous about Nagara's powers. It's refreshing to see another male character support the main Male Character.

Mizuho teaching the dog to sit, stay, and beg had me rolling. She is still the best character.

Welp there goes Nozomi's light...now what?
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Aug 19, 2021 5:54 PM
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Guibolas said:
One thing dosn't exclude the other. I'm still seeing the social metaphors and critique in the new episode. The Quantum Mecanics isn't essencial for the interpretation of the other side. If you clone someone, both will think be the original, and you can see that way with the new discover, without using Shorindeger, just logic. Sorry if i did a grammatical mistake


never said you can exclude the social metaphors i even said its just one big metaphor for another Coming of Age story that anime as an entertaintment loves to do

its just if you know some physics you will know what the hell is happening in this episode with all the science fiction stuff
Aug 19, 2021 5:58 PM

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i think im too dumb to watch this show. not sure if im still supposed to be confused at this point lol, kinda understanding what's happening from reading the comments in this thread tho
 



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Aug 19, 2021 6:01 PM
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[quote=deg message=64171795] Now i understood. Maybe can be like evangelion that put a ton of complicated lore that you can ignore and take the more human part too. Unlike a bunny girl senpai, that the physic's metaphor almost disturb the interesting part.
Aug 19, 2021 6:07 PM
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i wish i could say i liked it but imo it was one of the worst ep in the show i had to skip because i couldnt really understand what was going on i give this ep a good 3/5 not bad but worse than every other ep imo
Aug 19, 2021 6:12 PM
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as for the copies revelation of the Principal or God

in a multiverse like many worlds interpretation there are many clones or infinite copies of yourself in each timeline so each of one of your versions are legitimate

so the obvious ending for now is that they have to create their own new future timeline via time travel to branch or split into 2 timelines some past timeline

Guibolas said:
Now i understood. Maybe can be like evangelion that put a ton of complicated lore that you can ignore and take the more human part too. Unlike a bunny girl senpai, that the physic's metaphor almost disturb the interesting part.


ye you can just go with the Evangelion way of interpretation by focusing on the human or social parts instead
Aug 19, 2021 6:13 PM
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Half of this episode I was going "HOLY SHIT" and the other half I was going "WTF IS GOING ON?"

Pretty cool way to feel about an episode, imo.

But yeah, there is a ton of esque-science babble that might or might not have roots in actual scientific theories, but I'm least interested in that, and more in what does it all mean for our characters. The realization that they can't, indeed, come back to their worlds was harsh. And I feel like they haven't really developed Nozomi yet into a fully fleshed character, so I'm hoping the revelation of her being dead in the "alternative-future-real-world" can be a foundation to develop her more as a character. I'm thinking maybe she killed herself for some reason we will know in the future. I could be wrong, though.

Anyway, even though I'm past the point where I'm going to recommend this as I was after the first episode because honestly I know all this random shit will be too much for some people, I still think Natsume knows where he's taking this. God, I hope he knows where he's taking this.

Also, don't know if anybody noticed, but there was a very neat cut in the first episode where Nagara was speaking to the professor just as in this episode, and then we could see Nozomi peaking through the curtains. I thought it was a weird editing choice at the moment, so I knew it was building to something. We had the exact same cut in this episode, but behind the curtain there was no one, probably because Nozomi had died. I still think Nozomi's and Nagara's connection has something to do with this whole drifting thing.


Ohh that's a really cool theory! So in order for them all to find their optimal world where everyone is at their happiest and where Nagara and Nazumi can be together they need to find an alternate timeline where all that is possible and where they aren't just copies!
Aug 19, 2021 6:24 PM

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bruh nani the fuck i can't blame anyone for getting lost in the craziness that was this episode that was totally not a "final"

would it make any sense of current Aki-sensei being from the past because there was a cut of her skirt that made it seem like it was a uniform but the one in the other world showed her as a teacher.
Aug 19, 2021 6:30 PM
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I have no idea where this is going and I love it.
Aug 19, 2021 6:50 PM
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Another very entertaining episode! I don't watch this series for any type of continuity, I watch it for weekly entertainment. I can just sit and let my eyes just take in whatever the screen shows me. I don't need to understand or even anticipate what is going to happen. I just watch and let it all unfold. Very nicely done!
Aug 19, 2021 7:09 PM
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I'm beginning to think that somebody got a sake and medication party and after that wrote the script of this title.
Aug 19, 2021 7:14 PM

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Best episode yet, although it was confusing and felt like an hour.
Aug 19, 2021 7:28 PM

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Great episode. A lot to digest with many different characters developing through many different plots that are also connected and spanning an unknown amount of time. All I know for sure is that the graduation reveal made this anime even more interesting.
Aug 19, 2021 7:39 PM
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There's a lot of things goin on. More wacky and trippy than the monkey world, for sure. The first attempt that almost break the circle of ''this' world'. Imagine that yourself already thought you win some jackpot, but, you get fooled by someone elses trick. Mad? Sad? Complete depression? That's them there.

Anyway, the principal revealed to be the god, and some stray black giant-ass dog appeared revealing himself as a time traveller student, to their's perspective. This episode using another other worldy place, the movie world, and its own rule, as a device to figure out how to escape from the palm of God's hands. Well, unfortunately, its reach a failure. Try again later, lads. Because i am pretty sure there's always be a way to find the real path. The genuine path of their own future, away from those annoying old man who claims to be the God. Not a copy. Not from the dog and the teacher world. Their own world for the better future. To hell with the others. Could they? I hope Nozomi just be fine even though its hard knowing your future is death. Well, its sure have a lot of possibilities for what is coming next. But, as always i am just gonna say: lets see next for the real next ....
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Aug 19, 2021 8:22 PM
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This was the graduation episode. The graduation that happened in real world is a nostalgic memory the students observe from outside, because that life is now inaccessible to them. The real world is now a nostalgic past and the present is now real for them. They have to come to terms with this fact. That the world died. They died. They have to make sense of this new chaotic world in front of them and grasp it firmly with their hands, once they do, the quantum many world state they are experiencing will collapse into a classical world that will become their adulthood.

The director is God, because he gives the children the chance to choose a world, which is a miraculous power.

Narrator says they are no longer needed, because they are no longer part of the world of the young.

Oppai-sensei say they are going to destroy the world, presumably by realizing they have to collapse the quantum world into classical world by becoming adults. She is happy in the end, because they did not. Yet, but they have shed the skin of the old.

Oppai wants to play school forever in quantum world. She is insecure and pretends to be a teacher to prove that she already graduated and does not need a new world.

Nagara realized he is weak, Nozomi realized her compass only leads to death, the Star-kun realized people do not want him to save them. Science-kun realized the world does not bend to his theories. Students are all disillusioned.

Dog-san says there is no chance for him anymore, he is too old - he spent too much time idling in the post-graduation world and he lost his chance to grasp his fate. But the students still have chance, to apply themselves so to live a life they will not be regretting at the end.

The climax of this episode, the students embracing the change in face of the unknown, is a joyous moment of events that can no longer be stopped, so they may as well enjoy the ride. Hence the choice of the music.

Similarities:
House MD, Life is Strange - climax music
NGE - Ramiel cube
EoE: the depressing beach scene + dead cube looming over horizon
Antichamber - the cube and abstract shifting perspectives
Space Dandy - the apocalyptic climax animation
The Lost - The Arc, moving the cube was a bit like moving the island
Inception - the 4th wall effects and infinite mirror effect
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There's so many layers at the 2nd half of the episode that I'm left confused but at awe at how many it tries to subtly communicate. One thing that really piqued my interest is that we can see "A Christmas Carol"-esque thing going on as Nagara saw a version of The Ghost of Christmas Future, a future where he continued running away from his problems. He has problems with his family, problems with his future and he's left friendless. Pixie girl died for some reason, possibly a suicide. It may be a direct continuation if the world didn't "drift away", or in this case, if they didn't drift away.

Confusing but honestly the best episode yet, 10/10. Very excited for the next episode.
Aug 19, 2021 8:37 PM
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Previous episode, Oppai sai to that guy that he "did that" to save them. She probably meant that he created/discovered the weird hole so they would enjoy their life they have and didnt want to break out and die in the dead past or painful future world.
Aug 19, 2021 9:20 PM
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I used to think I somewhat understood this anime. Clearly I don't. And I also very much doubt this is gonna end with them just finding another world where they aren't copies. Idk how it's actually going to end but it's definitely going to be way more trippy
Aug 19, 2021 9:26 PM
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This world has gone to the dogs
Aug 19, 2021 9:36 PM
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i think im too dumb to watch this show. not sure if im still supposed to be confused at this point lol, kinda understanding what's happening from reading the comments in this thread tho


You're not too dumb for the show, you're too smart. It seems to just be made to make dumb people feel smart by watching it and trying to pretend like they understand it.
Aug 19, 2021 9:51 PM
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soundtrack was absolutely amazing in this episode
Aug 19, 2021 9:54 PM
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The ED song might really be about Nagara and Nozomi.
Aug 19, 2021 9:58 PM
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does anyone know the song that was being played from 15.45???
Aug 19, 2021 11:18 PM
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Me: Well this anime cannot get any more confusing can it?

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Aug 19, 2021 11:39 PM
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Ok. This what this serie is really bad at is making sense. Seriously, i don't think my brain have ever been this confused.
Aug 19, 2021 11:50 PM

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I was enjoying this show from the start but with this episode my interest shot up high, it seems like with every episode I like this anime more and more, this could be something great let's hope it keeps this momentum up
Aug 19, 2021 11:53 PM
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I'm beginning to think that somebody got a sake and medication party and after that wrote the script of this title.
some of the best scripts of all time were written in one night after a drug-induced epiphany.

That said there is a lot of planning and careful writing going on here. Characters having multiple episode long arcs that slowly grow each episode until a moment of extreme noticeable change.
Aug 20, 2021 12:34 AM

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Something about the teacher always felt wrong. And now, the dog says she might not be the real teacher.

It was too early for the problem to be solved. And, what the dog said about the drifting, only made it more clear that the "teacher" and Asakaze would do something to mess things up.

We finally see the voice of the person that Hoshi talks to.

Hoshi: I don't know what I should think about him. But, I like him. He's very interesting.

Nozomi was dead in the world they went to. I wonder if there's a bigger meaning to that.

The story has so many interesting concepts. It's slow, but every episode leaves us with some clues to the end, and some time to process them, while also letting the characters live. I am really liking it. Can't wait for everything to come together.
Aug 20, 2021 12:41 AM
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Personally, I didn’t like this episode for the whole “ark” portion of it. Had that been paced better or explained more, I would have liked this episode more. And I get that this show isn’t supposed to make sense rn, but I felt like the videos were over explained and the ark was under explained and irrelevant. Idk. Maybe I’m missing something.
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Aug 20, 2021 12:43 AM
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I think the culprit might be Nagara all along, the Principal might be his future self too. this is all ploy by him to create a world where Nozomi alive.
Aug 20, 2021 1:35 AM

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The dog said "I don't know the cause of the drift" at first and "This drift was caused by the principal" after a while. Hey, what's happening to the scenario.

When the dog said only students are chosen as drifters, the teacher was wearing a school uniform skirt. It seems a student is disguising herself as the teacher. Incidentally, the same voice actor for the teacher was assigned to a character named Tsubame at the credits of the episode 2. I'm not sure who Tsubame is, but one of the girls who were surfing with Asakaze might be she. Anyway, the teacher should be happy in the current situation with Asakaze.

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I didn't know that all the students' figures and names had been published by the official twitter account in July. For those who'd like to know them, open this:
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