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-Hei- said: I want fucking moe tragedy, that would so awesome. HELLZ YA that would be totally awesome and I think its going to happen especially with Rio leaving most likely due to something with the peace treaty not going well and the army in the east on the move. |
kg-san said: Asu you're still a fragile flower... But its ok cause you're a beautiful flower! 花火花火花火 :D:D:D |
| I am geting bored of this portray of man-in-power to always have a fling on a side that will produce a child with a touching story at the end. And what up with the whole:" she was supposed to get married to some dude from Rome, to smoother the relationships between countrys". What is this a 16th centuary? Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. |
| Best episode for me so far. I almost cried when Rio Left T.T |
Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. |
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| In my humble opinion this episode was the best one so far... moreover - that was first episode that had no boring fillers and was pretty interesting. Now I no more regret that I started watching this series, though - still, I had expected a little more from this anime in overall. Well, let's wait and see what further episodes will show us. |
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garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? |
| The big was they had, was that with the Roma army? If so, what about those bird-thingies we were hinted at in Filicias episode? Nice ep anyway. |
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Starbrow said: Logic says that even I seeing movies of that type see that 75% of the time it involves it and that no man's land shows that too......right?garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? |
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| "I won't die that easily" Gee, I'd never have guessed she was going to die at all -.-' Its quite hard to feel emotional over something so predictable, they might as well have just tell you she was going to die. |
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Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet |
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Starbrow said: What are you? 12? Little thought can answer that. garfield15 said: And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did?Starbrow said: Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution.Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. One example is if the knowledge stored in books and computers are destroyed, how can future generations get back that information? In a couple of decades from maybe isolated colonies, they eventually forget about it since the smart ones may not have survived to share the information. It is hard to adapt a modern civilization to a primitive environment. |
Maximatum99Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM
| A very nice episode full of story. I was almost expecting something more but I think I just want too much too soon. I'm very much looking forward to how the story will pan out now. (Hope there's some tragedy....I just love emotional roller coasters). |
Scr1be said: Yeah but there is no indication that it was Rio....could have been Rio just knowing or seeing that scene herself.....I did not see her blame herself of something like "If I would have been dead instead if Iliya" because that would indicate a lot more.....can you give more indications that you remember from previous episodes?Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet |
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Maximatum99 said: Starbrow said: What are you? 12? Little thought can answer that. garfield15 said: And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did?Starbrow said: Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution.Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. One example is if the knowledge stored in books and computers are destroyed, how can future generations get back that information? In a couple of decades from maybe isolated colonies, they eventually forget about it since the smart ones may not have survived to share the information. It is hard to adapt a modern civilization to a primitive environment. I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Logic says that even I seeing movies of that type see that 75% of the time it involves it and that no man's land shows that too......right?garfield15 said: Starbrow said: Just because they lost some Technologie during some big war long time ago, doesnt means they have to devolve back in to primates. Post-apocalysm usually involves devolution. And how do you know that? Did you survived Post-apocalysm? Or know someone who did? Movies are a poor guide to real life. francismeunier said: Scr1be said: Yeah but there is no indication that it was Rio....could have been Rio just knowing or seeing that scene herself.....I did not see her blame herself of something like "If I would have been dead instead if Iliya" because that would indicate a lot more.....can you give more indications that you remember from previous episodes?Wasabi said: francismeunier said: Wasabi said: Wait a second...I am going to have rewatch this episode I though it was more the child saved in the river was not Rio....is that why at one point we see her...no that can't be since Iliya is next to her while she was in bed unless she was having a hallucination of her.....I though Rio left because she blames herself for not having to save that child and caused the death of Iliya...going to have to rewatch to see how you came to that conclusion.This episode kind of confirms some of my suspicions. Rio was most likely the child that Iliya died saving in the river. Perhaps from Iliya's last wish, Rio was adopted into the royal family as the "illegitimate" child that was mentioned since her parents were gone. Wasabi said: Rofl...yeah let's scare those moe otaku people.Hopefully from the next episode title, shit starts to hit the fan. And I hope it hits it hard... so hard that it'll splatter every inch of the room. Actually, you're right. I was distracted while watching the part where Rio was talking to Kanata. Rio is the daughter of an affair the king had with Rio's mother. and I think Kanata is the child that Iliya saved in the river. Notice how in the Kanata's flashbacks of Iliya, Iliya is always soaking wet I have my doubts about it. Since it happend 2 years ago, Rio couldnt have been called a "child" they would have said a "girl" for sure. |
KaiserpingvinMar 10, 2010 7:06 AM
Starbrow said: I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. I thought you were talking about intelligence and not morals. However, it depends on the type of society. Notable religious cultures in various countries may not seem morally sound to you, even in this modern time. It doesn't only take an apocalyptic theme to change humans to barbarians. Although... morals are evolutionarily hardwired into us but it takes "indoctrination" to bend it. Getting off topic from the anime discussion but you get the idea. |
Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11. |
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francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11.Lol Farhenheit 9/11? Are you serious? |
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Wasabi said: Just a example but there are also WW2 movies that have part facts from history like Pear Harbor or Midway.francismeunier said: Starbrow said: Not true because some movies are documentaries that show IRL information and IRL situation like Fahrenheit9/11.Lol Farhenheit 9/11? Are you serious? |
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| And she leaves. What now? |
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| BORING. So, instead of doing the interesting dramatic choice of showing Rio's struggle to make a decision, and know what that entails, we get a magical story of how she's a princess, and now she has a job to do. But she has to say goodbye to the protege that we only saw her teach once. Am I really supposed to be moved by this bland bullshit? The show didn't really bother to create relationships, strong characters, or anything; so to see Rio lay around for a little, then wax about how she is able to make this nebulous decision because Kanata came in and changed her life is absurd. This is the most vapid, trying-to-be-high-minded show I've seen in a while. |
| It was like, "So you found out about how I'm related to the princess ? I'm leaving, bye now". Learning the trumpet in this anime consists of 1. desire to play it. 2. having a self discovery experience. 3. Now you can play Amazing Grace ! (is that the only song they know ?) 4. Two people who know how to play Amazing Grace can be stationed together. and what with the old lady storyline it felt out of place. I want to see Kanata getting head-shot when the war breaks out (then I'll give this anime a 10 :P ) |
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| ^^^ What noteDhero said... I agree entirely. Character development is going in very horrible direction. There wasn't really much build of between those 5 unbelievably naive military chicks, and one of them is leaving, so what?... I'm not touched, I'm not moved, not a single bit. Also, everything going on doesn't make sense. Even though it is slice of life style anime, this is just no. I was keep saying... 'Trying to be deep with shallow and weak basis of the whole concept'. |
noteDhero said: Well it worked for me but they could have made it better with more details....the problem is that they did not develop Rio as much as Kanata. Like I said before instead of doing Jacott's story they could have focused on Rio and one of her half sister.The show didn't really bother to create relationships, strong characters, or anything; so to see Rio lay around for a little, then wax about how she is able to make this nebulous decision because Kanata came in and changed her life is absurd. |
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| Trite episode for a trite show. Still waiting for blood and guts and warfare. :c Starbrow said: I see so because it isnt stored anywhere, people will suddenly foget the " Human rights": No slavery. Women right to vote. Labour Unions. Universal jurisdiction Humanitarian Laws Democracy. In our generation Humans rights isnt something your learn from a book its soemthing you are already born with. So you cant just simply close the book, and forget about it in a month or two, its the way of life. Man you got to think more positive and have more faith in humanity. Well yeah they will be forgotten. I mean, Athens was a (sort of) democracy, and we totally managed to forget that for near enough two thousand years. We are not born with ideas as technical as those, and even if we were, that wouldn't ensure that society actually implemented them. Case in point: most any human can conceive of world peace, and nearly all of them would prefer it to war. Yet there's only been around twenty-something years of that in total throughout human history despite this universal consensus. And world peace is a great deal less specific and narrow than those ideas you tout. So. Faith in humanity? Are you talking about the same humanity we all know and love? As far as I am concerned, So Ra No Wo To is very far to the idealistic side of things. |
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| Huh, the best episode so far, and i'm pretty sure it would be the best of all, since Rio left... |
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| I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. |
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Tatynin said: Your description is way too simplistic to the concepts involved for liking this anime.I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. |
Tatynin said: Someone can't understand the joke. I'm struggling to understand why being stonehearted is ever to do with this show.I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. We don't like show; not because of lack of blood but because of its senseless advance and boring development, read things carefully before calling others stone hearted. |
| Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile. |
Tatynin said: I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. Here is my own personal view on why I am so disappointed with this show: I saw the trailer for this last year and the impression I got from it was that it was going to deliver a somewhat profound war drama even if it has moe character designs. The music, the captions, the montage of the art in the trailer was telling me that it wasn't going to be super happy. But what did I get for the last 10 episodes? A story about a bunch of little girls living it out in some quaint little town making friends. The "drama" has yet to fully surface at all. The only episode that it remotely even showed off anything about the "war" was in episode 7 with Felicia's flashback. I was not expecting massive gore, massive action, but I was expecting a war drama, which this show has failed to deliver so far. If the trailer had instead showed a more slice of life approach with cheery music, then maybe I would see this show for what it is and then be relatively excited and surprised at the finale if it so chooses a dramatic end but no, I did not get what I was expecting from it. And this show suffers from generic storyboard flow like most other shows of this length. Over half the show is nothing but the characters living out life with absolutely nothing going on with a poor amount of character development going on and then a rushed ending. |
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Wasabi said: That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers......opinions can be seen on the net as well as from people buying the dvds if they choose to leave a comment about it.Tatynin said: I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above... If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬ To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. Here is my own personal view on why I am so disappointed with this show: I saw the trailer for this last year and the impression I got from it was that it was going to deliver a somewhat profound war drama even if it has moe character designs. The music, the captions, the montage of the art in the show was telling me that it wasn't going to be super happy. But what did I get for the last 10 episodes? A story about a bunch of little girls living it out in some quaint little town making friends. The "drama" has yet to fully surface at all. The only episode that it remotely even showed off anything about the "war" was in episode 7 with Felicia's flashback. I was not expecting massive gore, massive action, but I was expecting a war drama, which this show has failed to deliver so far. If the trailer had instead showed a more slice of life approach with cheery music, then maybe I would see this show for what it is and then be relatively excited and surprised at the finale if it so chooses a dramatic end but no, I did not get what I was expecting from it. And this show suffers from generic storyboard flow like most other shows of this length. Over half the show is nothing but the characters living out life with absolutely nothing going on with a poor amount of character development going on and then a rushed ending. |
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francismeunier said: Shit doesn't work like that. If it did, there would be a lot more successful second seasons out there. |
Maximatum99 said: francismeunier said: Shit doesn't work like that. If it did, there would be a lot more successful second seasons out there.And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean. |
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noteDhero said: Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile. Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P |
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francismeunier said: You know, you are basically saying something completely against of what you said before.And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean. you said: wtf is this I don't even.That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers...... So, use proper English, then no miss-leading whatsoever. kthnxbye. |
| So Rio is a Princess. I thought she just was a friend and apprentice of Iliya but she was her half-sister. Really shocking. Waiting hard for next episodes |
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ringoo4 said: francismeunier said: You know, you are basically saying something completely against of what you said before.And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean. you said: wtf is this I don't even.That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season based on the impact the first season did to viewers...... So, use proper English, then no miss-leading whatsoever. kthnxbye. Well I meant impact as in what they liked not including moe cute stuff....guess I screwed up in my sense.....impact as in (what most left as impression other than any cute stuff).....that is what I meant. |
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garfield15 said: noteDhero said: Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile. Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P That too. mmmm...cake... |
noteDhero said: I prefer cheesecake better than any other cake......garfield15 said: noteDhero said: Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile. Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P That too. mmmm...cake... |
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| i felt so sad after watching... why does rio have to leave? (did i miss it, or did she not say why she wanna leave?) anyway 3 episodes left.... |
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| Once again a bad episode. And stills all over the place, too. Are we supposed to sympathize with characters this stupid? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Tatynin said: To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone. Shit, I knew I should have dropped this several episodes ago. |
| I loved this episode! For me it was pretty good - BGM and background designs - and the end was beautiful, I was looking for some anime like this for a long time, I hope the series end well though. SnW fooled everyone's expectations, it was not a K-ON! remake, nor a full war anime or a complete slice of life neither, the anime shows its story into his own way, that's what I think now, and I liking it now. |
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| Maybe now we can get some action. Like in EP 7. I hope the Rio really escaped. And she will not have to be the wife some old man in order to ensure peace. I wonder whether the girl will get some supplement. |
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| This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag. They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'.. Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it. |
desolato said: I agree with you desolato but admit it at least that it fooled people pretty good.This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag. They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'.. Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it. |
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francismeunier said: You know what they say. desolato said: I agree with you desolato but admit it at least that it fooled people pretty good.This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag. They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'.. Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, fuck this anime! |
| Not much character developement, but at least we got a bit more of hints. Although, for some reason that old lady really felt out of place. |
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| So yea, Rio is probably the sister of the princess. So that's basically all I have to say for today. |
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| Ok, here is what is going to happen. New femal character introduced. Rio marries the evil fat emperor in Roma. In a fit of drunken rage said Emperor attacks Rio and in the ensuing fight they both die. The Emperor's evil son (they are all evil don't you know) decides that it is all Rio's peoples fault and launches the attack. General warfare ensues. Episode 12 will show the tank completed and they girls (plus the new one, minus Rio) will gallently and or heroically (sp?) hold off the enemy sneak attack that will some how come out of the waste land thus helping the main army defeat the Roma army. At the very end of the battle all the girls except Kanata will die. End of the episode. Episode 13 flash forward several years. Kanata is still stationed in the town and working on the damaged tank. New recruits show up. We also find out that the evil son of the Emperor died in the final battle, the good son took over and the war ended. Bets anyone? |
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Faytz said: I loved this episode! For me it was pretty good - BGM and background designs - and the end was beautiful, I was looking for some anime like this for a long time, I hope the series end well though. SnW fooled everyone's expectations, it was not a K-ON! remake, nor a full war anime or a complete slice of life neither, the anime shows its story into his own way, that's what I think now, and I liking it now. I think that the reason im enjoying this show is that I came in with absolutely no expectations of anything and thus really dont care what happens as long as it is somewhat enjoyable as for genres all I can pick out are moe/light drama/military life/Idealism. its not a clear picture of anyone of those genres so it will only be enjoyed by a very small portion of anime fandom. |
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