I want to know about why some people say KnY is carried by the animation

troilus_05s said:


Sukuna isn't even a curse...

Ginpachi_1234 said:
nope it's their ideology, how it can be their existence???
It's their belief, that's why they fight
They are not like other curses who kill people aimlessly like other demons(other than upper moon) in kny

Well , what you expect from "king"
Sukuna has too much pride that he even considers cooperating with other curses as a disrespect

Well how are intelligent curses similar??
They all are quite different, buddy!!!

Not hating demon slayer, and yeah author gave them reasons but that reasons are nothing great(except akaza)
They are the same generic reasons and doesn't much add to them
Also the rushing after this arc!!!

I agree with you that jjk and kny are much same in their 1st season but jjk have quite superior writting than kny and also till now no plotholes(characters are something subjective, so i might not comment on them but if to say???, Then yeah jjk also has better written characters than kny).

That's the only difference of which I am talking between them!!

troilus_05s said:
@ktg
He isn't. According to the manga he isn't. And when did the anime mention that he is a curse? Never. The wiki is made by fans and is not infallible.

ktg said:

Let me quote Gojo.
In Chapter 2 Gojo says to Itadori:
"If you die, the CURSE inside you, Sukuna will also die as well."

It's funny how I have to explain something really basic information while I haven't read the manga.
I hope you can now understand that I'm right.

troilus_05s said:


And in that same chapter, he refers to Sukuna as a "cursed object" multiple times which Sukuna actually is. He isn't a curse. Gojo is just talking about the curse as in a powerful spell/evil being. The official fanbook written by Gege also mentions Sukuna is a cursed object. Sukuna was a human and now he is a cursed object.

ktg said:

No, he refers to his fingers as cursed objects. There's a difference. All of those cursed objects, fingers are part of the same curse which is Sukuna.
(And yes, he refers to the fingers as cursed object in the same chapter which makes it clear that the 2 things are different.)

ren0080 said:
to convey it's story through visuals..

teezpussy said:
saying this as a huge kimetsu no yaiba fan - the source material isnt all that special. probably if another studio than ufotable had adapted it, it would probably be much less popular. i enjoy it for what it is, since its my kind of thing, but i would probably agree that the animation does carry it quite a bit

Phosphophyllita said:
Because its narrative is bad and the characters are not that good.

Tanjirou family died in the first episode, we barely know their names and all the time they come back trying to make an emotional scene, but we don't know those people. The family was so badly done that there's a frame in the manga where Tanjirou thinks about his family and the author didn't even draw their faces.

The way the pieces of training happen is also bad. Tanjirou goes training > time skip > now he's several times stronger than before and he has new techniques, but we don't know about those techniques.

Tanjirou is always learning something new from flashbacks, like Hinokami Kagura. It was so easy to make it believable. The first episode > Tanjirou spends time with his family > his mother warns him that he mustn't forget his family tradition > he goes outside and starts the dancing > spends the rest of the episode with his family > rest of the story > every once in a while he remembers his family tradition and dance again > fight against Rui he tries something that we would've seen in the story before.

The arcs don't have a tangible goal. It's always just a fight.
Tanjirou wants to turn Nezuko back into a human, but so far we didn't see anything that brought him closer to his objective. He needs to kill Muzan and he needs blood from the strongest demons. Spider arc did he get anything? Nope. Train arc did he get anything? Nope. Current arc he might get something? I don't know, but the way it has started is comic. Uzui goes to Shinobu's place and say "So, one of my wives is not answering my letters anymore, I think there might be a demon there, let's go"
There's no objectivity so far.

It's heavily carried by the animation.

But most people accept those things, they don't care. Rengoku said "I'm your master now, Tanjirou" and that's enough. Now Rengoku is as relevant as Jiraya because they are both the main character's master.

SiGow said:

You might be the only Demon Slayer fan i respect

teezpussy said:
i try to be realistic, i do enjoy some trashy shows but dont we all? ♥

SiGow said:

I'm not against liking shows they enjoy. My problem is that some delusional people try to justify that the thing they enjoy is because of it being objectively better than everything. And try to defend it by coming up with bullshit excuses. I too enjoy watching Demon Slayer every week. Episode 10 fight was good tier. I have been a Ufotable fanboy long before they started doing Kny or even fate. So whatever they do I'll watch it for sure.

ktg said:

According to the wiki, manga and anime, he is.


Sorry, I was lazy to answer this.
So, if this was their ideology, Junpei would have died earlier. Mahito did kill the bullies in the cinema while let Junpei walk away. And even without that scene we saw so many other scenes where unintelligent curses didn't kill a human, which means it cannot be their ideology.
(Btw, the wiki says I'm right about it. It's their existence.)

Sukuna's pride isn't enough for this reason, because other curses have pride too. How did Jogo acted toward Gojo? Why did he fight him 1v1? Because of his pride, so even before they know that the enemy was stronger, they worked together.
So what is the reason behind their actions? Like I said, nothing.

Their appearances and attitude are quite different, but their personalities aren't. These are different things, so the mix them up.
Even Mahito tried to attack Sukuna, because of his pride, he wanted to play with him like Sukuna wants to play with Fushigoro. Every single one of them is prideful and bad, and that's all about their personalities and nothing else.

In most cases humans aren't bad because of a grand scheme. Yes, they are bad because of simple reasons like they show it in KnY, and that's what makes it better, that's why people can relate to them, because their reasons are similar reasons that make humans act toxic toward each other.
And no, it's not the same generic reason. I mean the specific reason is different, but if you mean like it's simple, then yes. But this is how it happens in reality too. People usually don't steal because they want to became the ruler of the world. They steal because the are greedy.

It's unfair comparison from my part, but considering the S2 of KnY, it's better. The writing is pretty similar, but the characters are better in KnY. Mostly because of my previous points.

ktg said:

No, he refers to his fingers as cursed objects. There's a difference. All of those cursed objects, fingers are part of the same curse which is Sukuna.
(And yes, he refers to the fingers as cursed object in the same chapter which makes it clear that the 2 things are different.)

troilus_05s said:


Bruh the author literally clarified that Sukuna is not a curse...
His backstory also mentioned that he was a human who is now a cursed object after his death. His fingers are all that's left of him. And those are cursed objects which allowed him to reincarnate inside Yuji. He isn't a curse. He never was a curse. The author says so and if you still don't believe it, in the later chapters in the manga,

Fkyourmom said:
Well i was not aiming to quote u....but u seem to be a dumbo so it will be fun...i read ur all posts and the other guy's posts.... actually people can't easily see curses but junpei was because he was a potential sorcerer so he fitted into Maito's plan and he didn't kill him....also they cooperated a lot in later arcs and u r so delusional...mahito is born from hatred and not from some generic backstory..... despite that he got a bad character with a playful one....with his desire to break itadori mentally and physically ....also wiki boy....the reason from their actions was alwz the ideology of them being real humans.....also jogo fighting gojo alone because he is the notorious one anybody could find it.....and king??....that's more like revolution....ur so delusional kiddo....so ur point that kny has better characters because of relatable shit is just lame....also sukuna backstory reveals his behaviour....so they are extremely bad because they got their perfect reasons.....not half bad half good like that shitty demons who even never kill main cast xd

Theif being theif because of greediness....but that doesn't come from sad life.... that's the part of your personality and when u r at extreme....it takes priority

Fkyourmom said:
sukuna isn't a curse....he was human before....damn we are manga readers wiki boy

ktg said:

I see. So when you quote from the manga it's the unquestionable truth, but when I do that, I'm stupid.
Please, kiddo, tell me more. :)

So, let me refute you. He WAS a human, this doesn't mean he can't become a curse.
And they refer Sukuna's BODY or remaining from his body as cursed objects. In chapter 2 Gojo did that, did say that the fingers are the cursed object, but Sukuna itself is a curse.


I am the dumb when you can't understand that I quoted manga and not wiki, kiddo? :DDDD

Your point about Junpei is stupid, because Junpei followed Mahito and not other way around. If Mahito wanted Junpei from the start, he would have reached out to him in the cinema. It was possible that Mahito killed people who also could see him. It has nothing to do with he's killing them.
It means Mahito just wanted to kill people in the cinema. So if it was their ideology, he would have killed Junpei too.

I see, so when an author write a backstory that explain the character motivation then it's a generic backstory, but when he doesn't do that, he's the master of writing. :DDD
This "complex" backstories existed in DBZ too. While those "generic" ones aren't.
And that's why JJK curses have generic backstories.

It's really pathetic how you call me "wiki boy", while I did quote manga and you didn't. :)

As for Jogo, I didn't mean why he fight at all. I meant as before the fight Jogo said how Gojo must be weak and he can easily kill him alone. This is the same kind of mentality that every curses have, because their personalities are the same.

Dude, you sad yourself that they are bad, because they "born from hatred", wich is an easy excuse for saying that they are bad because they are bad.
And yes, demons never killed important character like a hashira. Oh, wait, you are wrong again. :DDDD



Manga readers how can't understand a quote from manga. It looks like you are the wiki boy. :)

I quoted Gojo from chapter 2. He said that the fingers are cursed objects while Sukuna itself is a curse.
Nice try, kiddo, but maybe next time. :)

Fkyourmom said:
hashiras are still side characters delusional fanboy XDDD....also that's why I am telling they r not bad just for sake of bad...mahito killed them because they were nuances for him....he knew that junpei won't able to see him but will just babble shit...as I say u r a delusional shit...also manga boy .... When it's mentioned in Manga that he was a human and then became a curse then how is his origination a curse ....curse are born from negative emotions....but he wasn't....ur really stupid.... Every villian is not just curse....origin matters the most....also janami didn't go ....but only jogo...mahito didn't go ....but only jogo....geto who devised such a plan is also a curse .....so u r really stupid fella XDDD..CUrSeS got no backstory....it's not ur generic typical shonen....the curse whose origination is not negative emotions got backstory that ain't even complete....it's just some pieces of information.....bro u ain't even a manga reader....kiddooo....now don't whine

ktg said:

I see. So when you quote from the manga it's the unquestionable truth, but when I do that, I'm stupid.
Please, kiddo, tell me more. :)

So, let me refute you. He WAS a human, this doesn't mean he can't become a curse.
And they refer Sukuna's BODY or remaining from his body as cursed objects. In chapter 2 Gojo did that, did say that the fingers are the cursed object, but Sukuna itself is a curse.

ktg said:

Holy sh*t, you don't even know the difference between side characters and important characters. :DDDD
Dude, side characters can be important characters. In SnK Erwin is an important character, a very important character, but he died. Hashiras, yes, aren't the main characters, but important ones.
Learn the difference between words, kid. :)

How were they nuances for him? He could easily avoid the cinema. You're just making it up without any proof.

We can say that it's an inconsistency, but that wouldn't make it better. In the manga it definitely says Sukuna is a curse/cursed spirit, while his fingers are cursed objects.
I'm not the author but there can be explanations for Sukuna conditions like his used a technique or he become a curse, because of his negative emotions.

Btw, it will be really fun when they ban you, because of the rules you broke. :D
Oh, and learn English. It's really hard to read your comments.

The curses have the same origin, you said it yourself, the negative emotions.
Your point about Jogo is still bad. Yes, he went alone, so what makes him different when almost everyone went alone just a different point of the series? That's exactly my point.

Ok, I can't even read your couple last sentences. This don't refute me, just proves that you didn't understand my comment.

Render_1 said:
the visuals / music are the only good parts imo, to be clear I didn't think I was going to like this show when I started it and I was right, the other parts are fine, just nothing special, but this arc honestly sucks, the show has far too many plot holes or at the least too much plot armour, the "comedy" is extremely unfunny most of the time etc, I have no issue with you liking it, it's just not for me. the fights are ""fine"" but they suffer from the issues every shounen does so it's just hella dull most of the time.

VXesp4 said:

while you watch slice of life which is impossible to mess up on

Animefan13923 said:
Idc about rankings that much and I haven't seen OP yet